Salary Cap thoughts
[edit: Thanks to Kingj41 for catching a mistake I made. He (I am assuming it's a he since the name is king) pointed out this section of the NBA salary cap FAQ that states:
A free agent's maximum salary in the first year of a new contract is never less than 105% of his salary in the last year of his previous contract.
So the actual minimum salary to sign Bosh, Amare, Wade, James, and Johnson have been included as the new question 1 and I have made slight changes to each of the following sections]
I think we traded away a lot of talent today (Feb 18) and I wanted to know how much it improved our chance at being sufficiently under the cap to sign a max FA. The rest of the post is just some numbers designed to ask the following questions:
1) What's the minimum salary for a max FA?
2) How far would the cap have to drop for us not to be able to sign a Maximum FA?
3) If we hadn't traded Salmons, what would the salary cap have to be next year to allow us to sign a max FA?
4) Can New York definitely offer two maximum deals?
5) Where do we currently stand under the luxury tax and can we replace some of the scrubs we traded for with D--leaguers?
1) What's the minimum salary for a max FA?
The maximum salary for a player with 7 years of experience (Bosh, James, Wade, Johnson, Amare) is 30% of the salary cap or 105% of their current salary. So at a certain cap value the max contract of 30% of the cap will be greater than a 5% raise. The largest salary for a max FA will receive depends on the salary cap value and his current contract.
105% of the current salaries of five of the top FAs.
LeBron/Wade/Bosh - $15,779,912 * 1.05 = $16,568,908
Amare - $16,378,325 * 1.05 = $17,197,241
Johnson - $14,976,754 * 1.05 = $15,725,592
If the cap is larger than the value listed below, the players will receive 30% of the cap, otherwise the player will receive a 105% raise on their current contract (values listed above).LeBron/Wade/Bosh - $16,568,908 / 0.3 = $55,229693
Amare - $17,197,241 / 0.3 = $57,324,136
Johnson - $15,725,592 / 0.3 = $52,428,641
So Johnson will most likely receive 30% of the cap, Amare is looking for a 5% raise, while for the big 3 the cap could only shrink by 4.4% for them to receive 30% of the cap, otherwise they are getting a 5% raise.
2) How far would the cap have to drop for us not to be able to sign a Maximum FA?
Next summer we will have 6 players under contract: Derrick Rose, Kirk Hinrich, Luol Deng, James Johnson, Taj Gibson, Joakim Noah. Our 1st round pick will have a cap hold, but we can easily sell/trade it, so I'll pretend for now that we do so, to get an actual minimum.
Using Sham's numbers, we'll have $31,850,976 alloted to those 6 players.
From the NBA salary cap FAQ:
A roster charge if the team has fewer than 12 players (players under contract, free agents included in team salary, players given offer sheets, and first round draft picks). The roster charge is equal to the rookie minimum salary for each player below 12. The roster charge only applies during the offseason.
Which is $473,604 for each roster hold in the 2010-2011 season. We have five roster holds, which total $2,368,020. Combined that gives us a cap hold of $34,218,996.
The maximum salary for a player with 7 years of experience (Bosh, James, Wade, Johnson, Amare) is 30% of the salary cap or a 5% raise. So if $34,218,996 represents at most 70% of the salary cap, the minimum salary cap that allows us to offer a Max deal is $48,884,280. But since that value is less than what would be needed for a 5% raise the actual minimum cap is $50,787904 for Bosh, Wade, and James, a little less for Johnson and more for Amare.
The current cap is $57.7 million, it would require a change of $6.9 million or 12% to prevent us from offering a max deal to Johnson, Bosh, Wade, and James, so in other words, we're safe.
3) If we hadn't traded Salmons, what would the salary cap have to be next year to allow us to sign a max FA?
I'll spare you a repeat of the math.
We would need a salary cap of $56,504,846 to sign a free agent, which would mean the cap could only decrease by at most $1.2 million and that's if we surrender our 1st round pick. So While I hate the trade of Salmons, 2x 2nd rounders, and swapping 1st's, trading Salmons was necessary. If the cap stayed at the same value next year, unlikely, the highest draft pick we could have kept is the 17th (owed $1.3 million [pdf]).
4) Can New York definitely offer two maximum deals?
For those interested, doing the same thing for New York, except wondering if they can offer two maximum deals. They only have Gallinari, Curry, Douglas, and Chandler under contract for $17,782,905. 6 cap holds for $2,841,624 Total $20,624,529. If that represents less than 60% of the salary cap (two max guys at 30%), the salary cap would be $51,561,322. That is less than a 5% raise for all of the max FAs, so in this case the minimum salary cap value to sign two max FA's is complicated because it depends on who they sign.
To sign Johnson + Bosh/Wade/James (using 30% of cap on Johnson + 5% raise for the other)
The minimum cap is $20,624,529 + $16,568,908 +30% of cap = $53,133,481
To sign two of Bosh/Wade/James (using 5% raise for both)
The minimum cap is $20,624,529 + $16,568,908 +$16,568,908 = $53,762,345
To sign Johnson + Amare (using 30% of cap on Johnson + 5% raise for the Amare)
The minimum cap is $20,624,529 + $17,197,241 +30% of cap = $54,031,100
New York should be able to offer two maximum deals.
5) Where do we currently stand under the luxury tax and can we replace some of the scrubs we traded for with D--leaguers?
Using Sham's numbers, before today we were at $69,100,984. Subtract Salmons and Tyrus ($6,429,151 + $4,743,598) and add Joe Alexander & Hakeem Warrick from the Bucks (2,583,360 + 3,000,000) and Acie Law & Flip Murray from the Bobcats ( 2,216,160 + 1,990,000). We moved $1,383,229 further under the tax, enough to sign any vet to the minimum and still be under the tax.
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Excellent post
We can refer anybody here that has questions. I can’t believe that they are actually further under the tax. That’s amazing.
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great post/breakdown
Much appreciated, breaking it down point for point definitely rec worthy.
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nice post
is it just me or does anyone think the knicks are screwed? i mean, no top FA is gonna go to NYC with another star just to be surrounded with d-leaguers and fat eddy curry (to be fair, they have chandler who is a good player and galinari, who doesnt play a lick of D (see home and home as ie) but has a sweet shooting stroke).
there is the legacy factor and the fact NYC is the largest media market (in the world?) in the US, but to me their situation seems helpless. i dont want to rain on their parade (i really do) but im just thinking realistically here… right?!?!
I completely agree
Which is why I don’t view NY as a threat.
by Poloplaya14 on Feb 19, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
do like that last point
though I’m not sure who is out there that much better than Chris Richard to be a backup center. Maybe someone gets waived.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 19, 2010 12:12 AM CST reply actions
Just a note on item 1.
Even though a player is entitled a salary equal to 30% of the cap, if the 5% raise above their previous year’s salary is greater than the 30%, they’re entitled to the number that is higher.
That’s why the $16.58 mil number is what’s been shown in most calculations for a max player with 7-10 years experience. Actually, a guy like Stat is entitled to more than that based on this year’s salary, but it would be dumb to give him THAT much.
by kingj41 on Feb 19, 2010 6:13 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I keep referring to this graph from Raptors Republic
Evidently, max free agents can sign outright for a 5% raise, or can switch teams via sign-and-trade for a 10.5% raise. So it’s actually much more than the 30% figure (~$15 mil), and would either kingj41’s $16.6 mil figure or $17.4 mil depending on how we get a max player here. $34.2 million payroll with cap holds + $16.6 mil for sign-and-trade acquisition = $50.8 mil. We should be fine even if we keep our 1st round pick, but it’s close. Given that we’d likely trade salary in a sign-and-trade, we’d be fine for that too.
The Knicks situation though, is interesting. Using Jamaicanpi’s numbers and two max outright signings, that’s $21.1 + $16.6 + $16.6 = $54.3 mil. Factor in their likely high 1st rounder and things get more vague.
There’s a lot I’m unclear about with the salary cap stuff, and I’m basically just referencing other documents. I’m interested to hear what the cap experts here say about this.
Nice post.
But I think this is the important wording.
A free agent’s maximum salary in the first year of a new contract is never less than 105% of his salary in the last year of his previous contract. For example, a ten-year veteran free agent who most recently earned $20 million has a maximum salary of $21 million, even if that is above the league-wide maximum. A free agent does not need to remain with the same team in order to receive 105% of his previous salary, although the team that signs him is subject to the same salary cap restrictions as with any other free agent.
If those guys are ‘opting out’ of their current contract, then they would be entering the 1st year of a new contract. I think that’s different than if a contract were simply expiring because then it could be considered an extension (maybe?).
Again, I’m not 100% sure on this, but the wording makes me think it’s approximately $16.6 mil.
Knicks do not have their very high first rounder
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 19, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well for a sign and trade
Neither team has to be under the cap. The signing team is typically using the player’s bird rights, while the other team is acquiring the player via a trade. Did I understand your question correctly?
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-your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
Totally Right
I am working on making some changes to my original post.
"I skim a LOT of what gets said here
in a race to put in a smirky retort."
-your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
Hopefully fixed
"I skim a LOT of what gets said here
in a race to put in a smirky retort."
-your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
Just makes Joe Johnson
seem all the more likely
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Am I wrong to think that the Knicks are more likely to build a team,
rather than sign two max contracts?
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by Super-Structure on Feb 22, 2010 10:10 AM CST reply actions
No
In fact, that is how I think the Bulls will rebuild. They will rape and pilage teams in financial distress. This will take place at the draft, on July 1, just before the ’10 season opens, in December when players signed in the summer can be traded, and at the trade deadline next Feb. Think Garnett, Gasol, and Jamison.
This is a process
and a lot bigger than just this summer’s list of top free agents.
I think of guys the Bulls didn't get because they were busy crying poor too
granted, they’re in a much better cap position now, but the Bulls coulda been pillaging teams with their profit margin for years, and have chosen not to.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
I think they want to do the 2-max thing first
but maybe striking out and ‘team building’ (tough to do when your first round picks are gone) is more likely.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
haha i will laugh
when they overpay a bunch of undeserving players and start the cycle again….
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by iamsasquatch on Feb 22, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
You've got to at least try for Lebron first
Only then do you go for your backup plan. It doesn’t matter if Lebron+crap is not a championship team. He keeps you profitable while you build a team around him. And unlike the Bulls, Dolan will go into the luxury tax even if his team is not a championship contender yet.
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