Wednesday morning deadline thread
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 8:41 AM CST
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PrintThere was no update on the Bulls' pursuit of Tracy McGrady's expiring contract this morning, and it seems more and more like their interest at all is a bit overstated, and more like a final leverage push from the Rockets to try and get the Knicks to offer up better draft compensation than they had been.
Can't find anything new elsewhere, either, except that the Bulls are looking to move Jannero Pargo. Always doin favors, these Bulls, like signing Pargo in the first place.
McGraw has a good summary of the past day, and Doug Thonus is bracing himself for nothing much, though he also thinks Salmons will opt-out of his deal anyway. That'd still be a pain to worry about the rest of this year, and I'm still fairly confident that the Bulls feel the same way.
At least we know with the deadline fast approaching, Jerry Reinsdorf is paying attention...to his true love.
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Damons numbers are only gonna be waaaaaaack not playing in NY with that protected line up is gonna expose him
HAVE FUN!
"Where is my poster machine??"
It would be a great sign if Reinsdorf would actually pay 7 million to a Boras client.
Unfortunately, that’s never going to happen.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
were probably just waiting for Damon to decide he'd rather take $4-5M to play in Chicago
than $7M to play in Detroit
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
Damon shoulda just taken the yanks first offer and won another championship
"Where is my poster machine??"
Damon should just sign with the Bulls and play shooting guard.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Wait, the Bulls still want T-Mac
…about nine years after they first wanted him (and he was good).
Are we SURE Kenny Williams isn’t pulling double duty and GMing for the Bulls also?
NOBODY picks up someone past their prime like Kenny does.
Kenny always gets his man.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
i do think the bulls want to move kirk/fish for expirings
i just dont think theres any market for them, as KC hinted at last night. if they get desperate id take the morrison/vujacic for kirk deal (i dont know the exact numbers though so i dont know if it would put us in the tax, but if it did we could always toss in pargo or hunter to LA to make the numbers work), simply to chop off 4 million off next years salaries. plus, although im sure the org. doesnt agree with me, i dont even think theres much of a talent difference between kirk and vujacic, especially since kirk’s value as a PG is limited here
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
That would put us in the tax
That may be an indicator as to why we’re “shopping” Pargo.
Good thing we guaranteed the Hunter contract. facepalm
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
well then as i said
insist that LA take back pargo or hunter.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
I really don't think the Bulls want to move Kirk
I know it makes logical sense, but I really don’t think the Bulls brass wants Kirk to go unless they get say a Ray Allen,e tc. They don’t want the Morrison-Vujacic etc trade to save $4M next year for the cap, which is more than enough for us to be max-ready….and they didn’t make the move last year…..
Sadly....through thick and thin....
This from the article might temp the Rockets:
Chris Sheridan: Marc Stein has a news story with more on the Knicks-Rockets-Bulls trade situation, to which we’ll add this nugget: If Chicago is willing to deal the expiring contracts of Tyrus Thomas, Brad Miller and Jerome James for Tracy McGrady and Brian Cook, it would shave $2.75 million off the Rockets’ payroll and move them just barely below the luxury-tax line. Here is how that deal looks in the ESPN NBA Trade Machine.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
it would put us over the tax though
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
Which is why...
…many of us are operating under the assumption that this McGrady trade would be accompanied by a Hinrich or Salmons trade that would get us right back out of the tax, and hopefully netting some expiring money as well.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
All expiring deals
Tyrus, Miller, and James are all expiring deals. What do we accomplish in this trade other than losing 2 rotation players?
by onlythebulls on Feb 17, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
trading expirings
for shittier expirings is completely something I could see this ORG doing.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
26 mil coming off the books instead of 23 mil
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
No real net gain though
as far as money under the cap goes. It would put us in the tax as well. Another deal would have to accompany this one to make any sense.
Now whether the Bulls are planning on making sense is the question.
Worst-case scenario: McGrady is peddled as the “big acquisition.” I might have to swallow a grenade if that happens.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
If there goal is to get as much money off the books at the end of the season
it makes sense. If they don’t want to pay the tax it doesn’t. Problem is that we don’t really know there goal and it seems like they don’t as well.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
They're adding $3 million with this trade
so taking $3 million off the books nets zero…
In gain right?
but in cap room this summer it’s an addtional 3mil?
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
No it's not
That’s what YaoPau is saying. We add $3 million to our payroll, but that $3 million comes off so in terms of cap room, it makes no difference.
by Poloplaya14 on Feb 17, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for helping me understand
I get it now
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Plus who knows....
I mean sure it’s likely this year with TMAC is spent, but hey we’d have dibs for resigning him for a middling salary next year, and well a healthy TMAC is pretty friggin good…..
Worth the risk and helps us achieve our goals.
Sadly....through thick and thin....
See above comment, and...
…McGrady isn’t a corpse. He should be healthy and motivated, and will likely contribute something to whatever team he goes to.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Not only that he has said he would be willing to play for cheap next year
what is cheap for him don’t know but if you can get him for a good price with Rose, Big free agent, Big free agent, and Noah that wouldn’t be bad.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Unnecessary Sensationalistic Subject Line
Pathetic, uninformed plea for organization to exhibit behavior it rarely has before.
Idiotic, blatantly incorrect statement about Bulls Player X’s ability and why we should trade them.
Hilariously unrealistic trade scenario where Bulls Player X is traded for half of random NBA franchise’s roster.
Statement that only serves to display poster’s complete lack of knowledge of NBA salary structure.
Second trade scenario involving a player from random NBA franchise that would never, ever be traded in a million years.
Another statement revealing poster’s complete lack of sense/intelligence/brain.
Out-of-place “we should have kept Gordon” comment.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 9:02 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
Making it green
Golf clap for you sir, well done
(Asshole Sr) "If you learn one thing here, NEVER pass out in Ohio."
Almost forgot:
Listing of potential lineup after previously mentioned crazy trades are made, paying no attention to the fact that said lineup has no chemistry or has some fatal flaw.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Nonsensical reply, mainly because poster does not know what hubris means.
:D
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
obligatory acknowledgment
of your hilarity, without offering anything constructive to the conversation. Rinse and repeat under the assumption that this makes me a funny/worthwhile poster.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
by Cosmis on Feb 17, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's what made that Bosh rumor so insane
It runs so completely opposite of everything we’ve been hearing
Neil takes the fun out of funk
Sam Smith seems very confident that the Bulls wont offer something like the Knicks for McGardy
They will not be trading multiple players for McGrady’s contract, I am quite certain
I’m starting to have doubts about the Bulls ability to make a trade until Thursday
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
Make McGrady happy
makes Arn Tellem happy. Arn’s not Joe Johnson’s agent is he? He isn’t Mike Miller’s agent either.
Mr. Chairman has a history of bending over for Arn’s clients. From Ben Wallace, to JR Smith, to Tim Thomas, they all have received rather generous considerations from Mr. Chairman.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If not Multiple players then how would they match his contract?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
link the guy, he's my new friend
The Bulls have made some offers of John Salmons and Thomas without much luck, and might have to put Hinrich in a deal to create the cap space needed to make an offer to a potential maximum free agent, like LeBron James, Chris Bosh or Dwyane Wade. The Bulls are mulling over whether that will be worth it.
Um, I thought the whole point of this ‘plan’ is that it’s worth it.
Then Sam goes into how Rose is as just as good as Wade anyway, so they don’t really need a max FA (huh?).
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
that is beyond bizarre
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
in Sam's defense
he might have suffered a minor stroke when he heard Taj’s name in trade rumors, so his brain probably isn’t at 100% right now.
by M 80 on Feb 17, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
heh
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I am now recovering from a minor stroke of my own having heard the Bulls
are trying to move Jannero Pargo, whom I still believe is one of the keys to get us back into contention for a title run in 2010, but admittedly he’s still not as vital as the almighty Taj.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 17, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I just finished reading that...
That entire article is filled with different little blurbs that were creating ridiculous conspiracy theories in my head. Like the organization-wide use of the word “thrust.” First it’s just Vinny and Gar/Pax, then it’s Stacy King and Neil Funk, now Sam Smith’s sporting the lingo! I think it’s some subliminal message about “trust” or something, as in, trust us — David Lee is the answer.
If you noticed, Sam Smith then goes on a two-paragraph rant on how great David Lee is.
"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak
by Rose Colored Goggles on Feb 17, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
OK. now I'm scared:(
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Love that sig by the way
They gotta put that damn movie on Blu-ray, what’s the hold up?!!
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Neil Funk called Lee a great defender
the Bulls organization guys are all over him
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 17, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
It's likely Thrustacular
Or VDN will play Taj ahead of him.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
I read your comment much too fast
for a second there I thought you had said his thrust was testicular, like in, he’s a real ballsy player.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 17, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
It means whatever you want it to mean.
I do like Lee though. His max contract will be less than others.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Good lord
I’ve advocated Lee a bit, but that’s just awful.
Especially when the Bulls have spent the last few years talking about Lee and the rest of the Knicks as if they never played defense. Up to and including various other points the other night.
they ham it up out of hate for D'Antoni
the Lee defensive love was indeed out of nowhere yesterday, however. I guess it would’ve been an even bigger red flag if they were doing the same for Al Harrington.
Honestly it’s probably just Neil not knowing shit.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
I completely disagree with your statement about Neil not knowing shit
Since everyone else on this blog agrees that he’s full of crap.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 17, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It was awesome hearing them praise Duhon for his defense
While watching Rose walk into his shots.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Bulls Emergency Internet Response Team Activate!
It’s not perplexing if you view most everything as an ass covering attempt.
Sam is getting old
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
So basically, the Bulls have had two basic goals from the talk I've seen.
1. They’ve been interested in acquiring a good big man. They made what seems to be a very competitive offer for Al Jefferson, of Deng and Tyrus, and got denied. They apparently made an offer for Amare, but the Cavs and Heat have upped the bidding to the point I don’t see how the Bulls can match. So at this point, that goal looks like a fail.
2. They’ve been interested in insuring that they end up with max cap space by unloading either Hinrich or Salmons for expirings. At the moment, this doesn’t seem likely either. The Lakers aren’t offering expirings for Hinrich. Even adding Tyrus is not enough to get anyone to bite on Salmons. So again, this looks like impending failure.
So the Bulls have until 3:00PM Thursday to get a deal done. Plenty of time left, but they better get moving.
by Sports2 on Feb 17, 2010 9:06 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I think the
Heat offer is significantly less than what it was.
Maybe the Bulls can get back in the running for him.
Oops meant to include this
NBA trade deadline: The latest info – ESPN
According to an NBA source, the Heat are offering Daequan Cook, Quentin Richardson, Dorell Wright, Mario Chalmers and draft picks to the Suns. Cook is the only player among that group who is under contract for next season (Chalmers has a team option for $847,000). It is believed that the Suns would rather have a package from Cleveland that would include Zydrunas Ilgauskas, J.J. Hickson and a draft pick, with the young Hickson as the most appealing part of the package. Another league source said the Suns would like to attach Jason Richardson to a Stoudemire trade, which would relieve Phoenix from having to pay Richardson’s $14 million salary next season.
With those deals
how does Tyrus + Miller not get a deal with the Suns done?
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Kerr is hooking up his BBF.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Sarver and Reinsdorf
are probably neighbors too. Maybe Doug Collins can drop by for a foursome with Jerry’s son to talk up Tyrus and Kirk for Amare.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
Is this before or after the 18 with Johnny Damon?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
That's funny
Like anyone around the Bulls would every say anything good about Tyrus.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
thats actually a fair point i hadnt thought of
my guess is the bulls dont even want amare because theyre stupid.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
Hell, we can even sweeten the pot
Throw in a 1st rounder, throw in JJ, throw in cash. Get a good player who solves a big problem on offense, not to mention a go-to guy for Rose. Plus we don’t deplete our roster for the off chance we can get a big name this summer.
It’s OK to overpay. You don’t have to lead the league in profits. You can try to acquire talent that would help win games. Cap space and avoiding the luxury tax does not have to be your only goal…………
The Chicago Bulls: Clippers East, since 1999
Hey, someone get this guy out of here
Talking about “talent” and “winning games.” Pshaw.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
maybe the Cleveland rumor is a smokescreen, so his friend can get Kerr a better deal
someplace else…raising the stakes like in an auction.
Because Ilgauskas doesn’t fit the fast-break style of play of Phoenix at all. Plus he’s old.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Feb 17, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
they're gonna buy him out
and he’s going to resign with the cavs in 30 days
We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro
I'm guessing the Heat are willing to take back more salary, and offer cash
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Cavs/Heat Offers
If the Cavs are offering JJ Hickson, a to-be-bought-out-Ilgauskus, and a low #1, we should be able to beat that. As for the Heat, they seem to be offering a lot of crap—Daequan Cook, Quentin Richardson, Dorell Wright, Mario Chalmers and draft picks.
Tyrus, Miller, James Johnson, and a higher #1 would seem to top either offer. If LeBron, Wade and Bosh all stay put next year, Amare is probably the next best option for the Bulls. Why not make the move now? Do we really want to be shedding contracts and depleting our already thin bench to have a shot at giving a max deal to Joe Johnson?
The Chicago Bulls: Clippers East, since 1999
Finances
1. Perhaps the Cavs/Heat get the Suns under the tax. The Bulls would have to exceed the tax themselves to match their offers. Fat chance. So that’s a $10M advantage to them.
2. What’s so great about what the Bulls can offer? Miller and Z are about equal. Hickson is on a rookie deal, so he may have more value than Tyrus. James Johnson I suspect has no value.
Both not very good picks
Hickson is worth more then Tyrus. Our offer is not better then Cleveland’s.
by Grinder in Training on Feb 17, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
JJ Hickson is
Taj Gibson in a Cavs uniform
by QUINTEN DALEY on Feb 17, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
I don;t understand why the Bulls haven't pursued Amare
the same way they tried to get Jefferson or Bosh. Not saying give up Noah, but a trade to Phoenix involving Deng would be good for both teams. Unless they don’t think they can sign Amare to an extension
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Perhaps the Bulls don't value Amare.
In the same way they value Al Jeff or Bosh…and Bosh, justifiably so…
I think the Suns owner is cheap, and would not want the long term salary commitment of Luol Deng…and getting a Tyrus Thomas rental for 30 games before he becomes an RFA does not bring much of a return on talent…with Hickson, they get two full seasons of rookie contract ball before he has to get paid…I suspect the Bulls could offer Taj and JJ, but only one of those guys even belongs in the NBA…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Did you see what the Heat are proposing?
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Fine with me
but if they pass on Amare they better be damn sure they can get one of the two guys you just mentioned. I can’t wait to see Amare go fucking nuts with Wade in Miami next year and then hear the reaction from the people that keep complaining about him
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They probably don't value Amar'e
Since he doesn’t play defense.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
He should be cheap though
He’s got some albatross contracts: Barbosa and especially Jason Richardson…..to deal with…..
Sadly....through thick and thin....
the funny thing about goal #1
is that they’ve been trying to do that for 6 years, unsuccessfully. And McGraw says it’s still the plan to do so in the 2010 FA class, after they get a max FA. sure.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Robinson to the Celtics is in the works.
One less Hinirch destination. Ouch. KC was right not much is going to happen.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
I actually kinda like that it
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
... is this quiet. Remember last year?
We didn’t hear anything about the Sacramento trade and it happened. We all know how the Bulls try to operate in total secrecy. So this could be a good thing…
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
That they're pursuing McGrady is proof that Hinrich/Salmons/Deng will be dealt, yes?
Here’s the quote from McGraw:
Multiple reports have the Bulls offering Brad Miller, Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James for McGrady. Now, if the Bulls’ top priority at the trade deadline is to clear more cap space for the summer’s free-agent chase, and Joakim Noah is going to be out who-knows-how-long with a foot injury, how does this make any sense for the Bulls?
Answer: It doesn’t, unless the Bulls are determined to stop a Houston-New York deal.
True, that would make sense. But ONLY IF Gar knew he’d have cap space for one max free agent.
I would think.
It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever if the only trade happening for the Bulls is three expiring contracts for one huge expiring contract. Either the plan would be to combine that trade with Hinrich/Deng/Salmons deals, or to trade McGrady immediately to someone else for something else.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Tracy McGrady plays basketball as well as having an expiring contract
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
We have no idea
…how well though. I personally think he’ll actually be pretty good, but while gaining a hopefully healthy, motivated (it’s a contract year!) McGrady is a good thing for the rest of the season, decimating your frontcourt depth to do so with no other trades isn’t something that will continue our playoff efforts well.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
You have to assume that the Bulls would know that though right?
They couldn’t possibly continue the season with a frontcourt of an injured Noah, Gibson, and Richards… they aren’t completely insane…right?
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
If the Bulls still have Rose, Deng, and Noah
They will still make it through plenty of games just fine. That’s not the goal anyway!
To be honest.
I’m not ready to assume anything about the Bulls at this point. I just hope something happens between now and 3pm tomorrow that isn’t catastrophic.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
I bet Bulls make one move
Trade Pargo to Suns for 2010 2nd round draft pick
"Where is my poster machine??"
thats
the best excuse i’ve heard so far for this deal, other than that, I don’t see the point of swapping expirings and completely depleting our front court. We don’t even know McGrady can play for sure.
Treasurer of the Aaron Gray Fan Club
Personally
I’m rather sure McGrady will play, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he plays out of his freaking mind. It is a contract year, after all. The motivation will surely be there. Whether he’s actually good anymore is the real question.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't be surprised either
But I still think we must push salmons and the Bulls are trying that
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 17, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
My buddy works at Attack with some Chinese National Junior players as a translator, but he said McGrady looked fine actually, but he really wasn’t pushing himself, and was just joking around. But supposedly he still looked to be in pretty good shape
Treasurer of the Aaron Gray Fan Club
not pushing himself? That doesn't sound like McGrady...
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Attack
He’ll fit right in with VDN. If only there was a Thrust Gymnasium.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
True story
Sheri Berto’s favorite word was “thrust”.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Reinsdorf steals all the tips.
And now I have a mental image of JR as “the guy who takes all the pennies from the dishes at gas stations.”
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Except for JR it's
Take a penny, take a penny, take a penny…etc…
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
exactly
I was hoping someone would take that alley-oop I served up there…
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
What can I say.
I’m playing with some serious thrust today.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
HOW'D YOU KNOW
GET OUT OF MY ROOM
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
don't tell me
you’re also sporting the patented Kirk Hinrich eye bandage/fresh stitches…
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
LOL
If Vinny heard that he would try to kill the trade because he only wants to pad the lineup with maxi-thrusters.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 17, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
While D'Antoni hates the fact that he missed Rose
VDN probably pines for the return of Nocioni. He was Thrustmania.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
good i hope he comes back - i bought his damn jersey and i cant even wear it
"Where is my poster machine??"
Sure you can wear it.
It’s very essence will give you more thrust in life.
Whatever that means.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
it means
you’ll average 2 to 3 more turnovers…
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
by Cosmis on Feb 17, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"whatever that means"
see my sig
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
SI's Chris Mannix on the Dan Patrick Show right now
“Amare is getting traded”
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
On Hinrich
“Hinrich is one of the most sought after guards by the Lakers and the Celtics.”
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Nate Rob is the alt to Hinrich
for both teams.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
One thing I'll give VDN a little credit for...
Is starting Hinrich. For whatever reason he now has value, which is astounding considering his contract. Whether it was the Org’s decision or one actually made by the used car salesman himself, it was a move that helped the team on and off the court.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Yea man
did u see hinrichs little spin and fade away jumper last night over wilson chandler?? guy looked siiiiiiiiiilky
TRADE HIM
"Where is my poster machine??"
by markoni22 on Feb 17, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Mmmmhmmm.
It’s called “sell high.” And it looks like we should be able to do it.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
From Hoopsworld
Steve Kyler – 02/17/2010 11:11am EST-
The Chicago Bulls are starting to look like the front runners for Tracy McGrady. Sources close to the situation say Houston might seal the deal tonight, but there is still a chance New York sweetens their deal. Word is the Knicks are talking with both Boston and the Lakers about a deal that would move out Nate Robinson and could return ending contracts and draft assets that they would convey to Houston in a T-Mac deal
"Where is my poster machine??"
insert poopsworld joke here
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
To Hoopsworld or Poopsworld?
I mean, this is the internet and all.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
My bet is Houston spread this to get the knicks to do something even dumber than usual
by Poloplaya14 on Feb 17, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
It wouldn't be the first time
the Knicks did something stupid, that’s for sure.
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
But its the Donnie Walsh era mannn
we arent going to get saved by Isiah this time around
"Where is my poster machine??"
my theory as well
though I’m sure the Bulls are complicit, as they get to look like they’re doing something too
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Now the Knicks are the team going into a three-way?
That means Houston would be considering the Bulls’ offer of Salmons or Kirk?
All your base are belong to Vinny.
cmonnn mannnn - front page
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=15328
"Where is my poster machine??"
Well, since these were discussed in some form, I want to offer my two trade proposals.
All in for 2010:
Thomas, Salmons and a 2011 Top-3 protected pick for Finley, Bonner, Mason and the rights to Tiago Splitter.
Hinrich for Brian Cardinal and Sasha Pavlocic or Dominique Wilikins and a future 2nd round pick.
I tried the trades together, and they worked, but if they can be done alone, whatever.
Draft a PG/SG (Sherron Collins?) combo guard and a SG/SF (Henry, James Anderson) wing player. Go in for Chris Bosh. Have the best front line in the NBA if you can get Splitter and Bosh to come.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I love how you always throw in your pet draftees
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
also, I assume you mean Damien Wilkins
though I saw ’nique at ASG and he looks fit enough
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
is it wrong
that I would prefer Nique?
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
by Cosmis on Feb 17, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
i highly doubt the spurs would throw in splitter
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
San Antonio trade
If I were to put my money on a trade going down, I would think the Spurs trade would be my pony. This have been my favorite/ realistic rumor, but I doubt the Bulls would add a draft pick.
Also, Im super pumped to get Nique. I loved him growing up.
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he's a ninja who turned into a rat
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
by J Theory on Feb 17, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 7 recs
c'mon dude
splinter was always a rat. he learned kung fu watching his master train
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 17, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea get with the program bro
http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=aIeH6s-GTJw&v=bIj94CB09qA
"Where is my poster machine??"
He also gave Shredder his scars, as a rat.
Yet, 4 mutated giant turtles can never seem to put a hurting on their archnemesis.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
to be fair though, when he got crushed by that garbage truck it REALLY looked like he was
dead.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
KC Jones was the shit.
What if KC Johnson was like KC Jones?I could see him walking around at night with a hockey mask.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
by SoulEater7 on Feb 17, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
So does that make you April?
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
HA
wow that was not funny.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
It made me laugh.
Because the thought of you as a fictional female cartoon character explains so many things.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
It's MJ's Birthday.
Maybe she got the big ban?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
that was Splinter,
not Splitter
/…this is exactly how rumors get started
/OMG we’re getting Lebron James!!!
/Oh noes, we’re just really re-signing Jerome James
by KentuckyBullsFan on Feb 17, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
he was a pet of his master yoshi
he mimicked his movements from his cage and learning the secret art of ninja
he was forced to come to new york without a home searchin in the sewers – scavaging for whatever he could find
then one day he came across 4 baby turtles – who were crawling in a green glowing ooooze
"Where is my poster machine??"
all of you go watch watch Tmnt Forever already!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbK5p-631KY
its basically the new ninja turtles meet the old ninja turtles, who meet the first ninja turtles….good stuff if you actually like them turtles…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Feb 17, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
that was awesome
good way to end my turtles(meaning any new stuff they bring out) watching career.
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
I'm buying tickets for Feb. 20th. First home game after the trade deadline. Will I be happy?
you know how there is a rumor
that the bulls offered noah and deng for bosh
and theres a rumor that minny is intrested in tyrus thomas and want to aquire a sf, and might have jefferson on the block…
what if there was a three way?
Bulls outbound-Deng, Tyrus
Raptors outbound-Turkey Glue, Bosh
Minny outbound-Jefferson
Bulls inbound-Bosh
Raptors inbound-Deng, Jefferson
Minny inbound-Tyrus, Turkey glue
it works on trade machine
lineups
Toronto:
Calderon
Derozen
Deng
Jefferson
Bargnani
Minni:
Flynn
Brewer
Turkeyglue
Thomas
Love
Bulls:
Rose
Hinrich
Salmons
Bosh
Noah
I think toronto gets teh best lineup of the group…and becomes one of the youngest t eams in the league…teh bulls will lose depth and wing defense, but huge upgrade in offense and efficiency, minni gets their sf and an expiring
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Except Minn and Tor
both said they aren’t moving their stars. You can’t make a 3 team trade when only 1 of the teams is even looking for one.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
I would love to read this but I'm kinda burnt out on fiction.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Why do I have the feeling the Kirk Hinrich and Luol Deng will kill the 2010 plans?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
I'm afraid there may be a typo in your post.
will kill = have killed
by Will Perdue's Pinky Ring on Feb 17, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
How ironic would it because of their huge contracts we are out of this thing.
stuck with David Lee.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
stuck?
no no
we are stuck with kirk hinrich
d. lee is pretty damn good..
"Where is my poster machine??"
Oh yeah?
pretty good like second round outs for the next 5 years?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
pretty good
like NBA CHAMPS BABY
believe in yourself soul eater
believe in the bulls
David Lee – chicago bulls mvp 2011
we got this
"Where is my poster machine??"
Ok since you said so I will.
I guess I’ll buy those season tickets now.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Because
you’re under the delusion that moving Deng was planned or necessary.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Kinda seems like it now.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Based on what?
Honest question, because I don’t see that at all.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Their contracts?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Let's recap
I said it was unnecessary to move Deng, you said it kinda seems like it is, I asked why that would be, and you said “their contracts”. Since we’re just talking about Deng, i’m not sure why you used plural
Is Deng’s 10/11 million contract preventing the Bulls from getting a free agent? The salary cap will be around 55 million, how is moving him necessary?
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
SoulEater just doesn't like Deng
most have ignored him on that point.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Their contracts
Refers to the other guys they haven’t moved. If they can’t move Hinrich and he thinks Salmons is going to Opt-In, then Deng has to go.
by Grinder in Training on Feb 17, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
The
2010 plan is AL JEFFERSON, T-Wolves will trade him for Deng and a future 1st round pick
by QUINTEN DALEY on Feb 17, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
you forget who you're talking to
Soul probably prefers Pargo over Deng.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
Pargo's prime was vs the wizards back in the 05 playoffs
and then gilbert hit that shot
and then kidd did this http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=5so6u75QD3k&v=vtMpuQfqfag
"Where is my poster machine??"
Pargo
used to be a solid rotation player.
Then he left his game in Lichtenstein, or wherever the hell he was last year.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
When was he a solid rotation player?
Are you referring to those two years with the Hornets where he sucked but still got minutes because Rasual Butler and Mike James were even worse?
by Poloplaya14 on Feb 17, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Man
tomorrow is going to SUCK. I have class from noon to 2:45, which of course means I’ll be getting home literally seconds after the deadline.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
Trades will be still trickling in even around 3.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
KC
Crazy timing: Kirk needs 3 3-pointers to break BG’s franchise record. Will he be dealt before he makes them?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
sick
lets keep kurt and screw over ben gordon one last time
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
by Jbasic89 on Feb 17, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
If he's getting trade
I’d be so happy I would allow him 60 3 points shots in tonight’s game – which how many shots he must make to sink 3 3pointers
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 17, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
thats must be the hold up..
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
by SoulEater7 on Feb 17, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He needs one attempt tonight to be the top at attempts in Bulls' history.
Currently tied with Pippen
Wow
That shows you how bad the Bulls have been that Kirk had to be attempting to so many threes when guys like Paxson, Kerr, and even Buchler were better shooters.
by The90sBullsRevival on Feb 17, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
teams just shoot more threes now in general.
(present Bulls excluded)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Better shooters.. yes
But you have to get in the game to shoot as many 3’s as Kirk has. He is a much better all around player, leading to a lot more opportunities. He’s a decent 3 point shooter who can play defense. That will give you a fair amount of opportunities to shoot.
Comparing him to a 3 point specialist is stupid. The fact we haven’t had a combination of a good player who can also shoot 3’s better then Kirk though.. unfortunate.
by Grinder in Training on Feb 17, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
I was just about to write
that i’ll give you Kerr as one of the best 3 point shooters in nba history, but that guys like Jud, Paxson, B.J. and others greatly benefited from being wide open for all of their 3 point shots thanks to Jordan.
That’s before you looked up their numbers and showed their percentages are less than Hinrichs. I would have sworn Paxson was higher than that. I guess that’s the impact of remembering his big shots so strongly.
Pippen really turned himself into a good 3 point shooter as his career peaked. I used to love his fast break pull up for a 3. If anybody on the current Bulls did that, i’d throw my remote through the screen.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
by runningman on Feb 17, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Buechler's % with the Bulls was actually higher than his career average
But I think this always comes back to expectations. The soundbite on Kirk has been that he can’t hit an open 3 and doesn’t finish inside for so long that people take it for truth. He’s obviously not the only one – same for Ben and his defense before he left, Ty’s “BBIQ”, etc. People don’t stop to question how accurate the statement is.
Those guys weren't with the bulls as long as hinrich has been
And they didn’t take as many shots because they played alongside thisguy named Michael Jordan who sort of demanded the ball a lot
They also got
Far more open looks because Jordan and well Pippen put so much pressure on the other team’s defenders.
I mean BG was good and had to be guarded and now Rose does, but we’ve never had 2 at that quality (or even 1), add in Horace, Kukoc….and it was even easier to find open looks (not to mention Phil Jackson’s triangle, etc).
Sadly....through thick and thin....
so if kirk, miller, and tyrus go for tracy
who’s our front court? richard and taj?
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
I'm buying tickets for Feb. 20th. First home game after the trade deadline. Will I be happy?
by Yibs on Feb 17, 2010 12:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
We'll probably see a lot more small lineups with Deng at the 4.
by Poloplaya14 on Feb 17, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
And that wouldn't be the end of the world
If TMac can start dropping 20 a game efficiently, we’re probably still a better team even without as much depth.
by Poloplaya14 on Feb 17, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
well he hasnt done that in 7 years but im sure the knee surgeries will improve his jumper
and make him want to attack the rim more.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
It's been only 2
Although I guess you could quibble over what deems as efficient. I’d still rather have him on the floor than salmons.
lets say its been at least 5 since he was even close to the .53 TS% average.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
True
But in Houston he was the guy who had to force up tough shots as the clock expired since he and Yao were basically the offense over there. Playing alongside Rose, I expect his efficiency to improve since Rose will be the go-to scoring threat and will also create for TMac a lot better than Rafer Alston ever did.
I think this calls for a link
as others are probably wondering what the exact numbers are.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01.html
Both Polo and TheMoon have valid points. McGrady hasn’t been an efficient scorer for a long time.
On the other hand, last year he was seriously injured even when he did play. 07-08 was just a bad year for him. 06-07 he had a 51.5 TS% and scored 23ppg. Like Polo said, he had a ridiculously high 35% usg rate though (1st in the league), indicating he was the only offense that Houston had.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
"the only offense Houston had"
I dunno, based on my observation, he was more a ball-hog than anything else. A walk-it-up-dribble-around-and-shoot kind of ball hog. Not really surprising that once he got injured the Rockets found all these good players they didn’t know they had. Also no surprising is them not wanting McGrady screwing up their on-court chemistry and paying him to go home.
cant wait to see all the lost rebounds
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
I'm buying tickets for Feb. 20th. First home game after the trade deadline. Will I be happy?
is there a way to change your name on this website?
id like to change mine to “read this fanpost before matt deletes it”
Why aren't they selling Rose's all star jersey?
how about "the preceding was redundant or pointless?"
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
...it wasnt...
Why aren't they selling Rose's all star jersey?
I wondered what happened to your fanpost
I assumed you asked for it to be deleted because you realized some errors.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
I like this idea.
With this trade,we can dump the salaries of are three players,and T-mac.Financially speaking, it’s a great move,but does this move help the team now? I don’t think so,it’s a move for the future of are team,for 2010 FA market and that’s all.
paulafaris
Tim Grover (MJ’s trainer) tells me if Bulls trade for Tracy McGrady, he’ll be ready to play Sat. Grover’s been working out T-Mac since Feb.
less than 10 seconds ago from web
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
he's right down the street...
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Why do I have the feeling that if Kirk and Salmons stay
we will have a Ron Mercer type summer…?
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 17, 2010 12:59 PM CST reply actions
if only.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Nate to the Celtics is apparently done.
http://www.celticsblog.com/2010/2/17/1314607/2010/2/17/1314607/nate-to-boston-done
Don’t want those ‘junk’ expirings for Hinrich, no sir.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST reply actions
If the Knicks get a 1st round pick out of this then McGrady to NY will follow soon
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
No picks mentioned
Not even by Woj. Time to check Berger, Stein, and Mannix.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
about time. Been a very quiet day
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Nate is BYC
Ken Berger says something or someone else has to be involved in that deal.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
the Bulls shit the bed again
fun!
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 17, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
well that sucks a whole lot. i kind of liked the celtics junk. i was hoping gar would play hard
with tyrus and unload kirk for whatever. shit.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
Don't worry guys! I keep telling you LeBron and Bosh are coming to Chicago! Why won't anyone believe me?
/Bill Simmons
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
Heh
Though he really did call what sort of rookie year Blake Griffin would have. Of course, that’s the only thing I know of that he’s predicted correctly.
Everyone knows high draft picks fizzle for the Clips...
That’s like saying Portland always psyches themselves out and drafts busts ahead of superstars.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
With the Lakers all that's left for Kirk...
the only deal that the Bulls are getting done is Tyrus to the Spurs or Nuggets
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Da Bulls' Eye Forum Now Open
salmons still could go somewhere too
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
If nothing happens
Do we eviscerate the Bulls front office?
I mean they are trying to make moves.
Or do they simply must do a lopsided trade today to take 2 steps back so we can take a giant leap forward?
"What are you doing Dragic?!"
i'll eviscerate
based on that report a couple weeks ago that they turned down the celts’ garbage (presumably expiring garbage) for hinrich. i also will eviscerate them for not taking morrison/vujacic from la for hinrich/pargo (again, assuming LA would do that, which from what I’ve read it sounds like they will). the “goal” of this season after letting gordon walk was making this a primo destination for a max free agent, and crossing your fingers that salmons opts out so that we can even offer a max contract is not good enough. no max free agent is going to think playing next to kirk hinrich is the reason he should come here, and if the front office had a chance to unload kirk for full or even partial savings next year so that we can offer a max contract it should be done. if it isn’t done, i will rip them.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
by Calogero on Feb 17, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm leaning in this direction too
Either way, we have Rose! hehe
"What are you doing Dragic?!"
"trying"?
whatever. I think it’s still a big failure even if Salmons opts out in the offseason. They should not put their entire 2010 plan at the mercy of that potential contract.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
So they are not trying to make a trade?
Whatever
"What are you doing Dragic?!"
I have to agree
that not doing anything to ensure your future is a failure. There have definitely been offers out there, and if they passed them all hoping for some unrealistic score that never happens, that’s a pretty big mistake.
Even if things work out despite the Bull’s failure, that doesn’t make them a good front office.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Can anyone explain this?
From Ken Berger….
Boston was heavily involved in talks with the Wiz heading into All-Star weekend, and would’ve received Jamison and Caron Butler in a trade that would’ve included Ray Allen going to Washington. But those talks caved in, partly because of pressure from rival Eastern Conference GMs who didn’t want to see Ernie Grunfeld swing the balance of power back to Boston, sources say. Butler ultimately was dealt to Dallas along with Brendan Haywood.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/20107023
This is just GM to GM courtesy right? There is no way other GMs can really overrule a deal between two GMs. If a bad deal like that goes down the other GMs just have to freeze out the two bad ones?
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
I think it's called
Conspiracy theory or something like that
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 17, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Just do these two trades plz
The Trade machine needs tech support
just a loading and loading.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
No, it helps
a horrible concept is thousands of “trade Pargo for LeBron” posts that would erupt if there wasn’t somewhere to point out the factual impossibilities of trade without having to delve into basketball reasons why someone’s idea is just dumb.
The ability to dismiss idiots without having to go into long explanations like this is a highly coveted thing in the blogosphere.
by torch on Feb 17, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Instead though
You just have thousands of posts debating stupid trades that would never happen in real life but do work in the trade machine. What’s the difference? Either way it’s pointless.
Then again, I don’t get the appeal of the trade machine or coming up with fake trades in general, so I can’t say I’m really it’s target audience.
by Grinder in Training on Feb 17, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
trade machine is pointless
unless your name is Gar
then…i will allow the trade machine debates
cause i reaaaaallly dont care what elaborate trades you came up with in your moms basement
"Where is my poster machine??"
by markoni22 on Feb 17, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
being a fan is pointless
so what’s your point?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
not as pointless as trade machine
being a fan allows us to express emotion on things that actually happen – ie. bulls win..bulls lose… im happy, im sad
i can talk shit to this guy
i can boo that guy
belittling some one else at a public gathering..makes me feel better –
pointless…no no
"Where is my poster machine??"
How so?
Both are trades that aren’t happening. The trade machine ones just happen to work numbers wise. Someone else is doing the math for something that I feel is stupid. They’ve just dumbed down a conversation that I see no value in to begin with.
Like I said.. I’m not it’s target market. I don’t see the value (or enjoyment) in it or coming up with fake trades when they will never happen. Clearly quite a few people do though.
by Grinder in Training on Feb 17, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
eh?
there’s a difference between never ever happening because you don’t think they’ll happen, and never ever happening because they’re illegal by CBA rules.
Is the ‘target audience’ those with comprehension skills?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
You don't see the value in rosterbation?
Because that’s all the Trade Machine boils down to.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
None.. it bores me.
Fake trades.. pass.
by Grinder in Training on Feb 17, 2010 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
I can't like anyone who doesn't like the trade machine
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
This will be another useless Bulls trade....
Just like every other deadline trade they make, which never helps the team long-term picture. Every guy they deal for, gets dealt way the following year. It’s re-arranging chairs on the Titanic.
So, now they want the expiring contract so they can chase players in free agency who will never come here anyway…
Not a wise move.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
re-arranging chairs on the titanic
i like that line— although i did love the deadline deals we made last year. that is, until it became apparent that they were done to replace gordon rather than supplement him
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
Bulls pull last minute
Pargo for a Phoenix cactus
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 17, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
So you want the Bulls
to make a long term move, but dont want them to clear space so they can sign an all star player long-term. What kind of useful trade do you propose then?
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Wake up... reality check.
We’re not getting LeBron, or DWade… and Bosh and Amare Stoudemire will probably join their respective teams.
The trade to make was last year: dealing for Stoudemire… and we didn’t make it.
Every other guy we deal for, gets flipped a season later in another deadline deal. It’s a revolving door of mediocrity with no long term vision or plan.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
reality
The trade to make was last year: dealing for Stoudemire… and we didn’t make it.
reality is…. the suns didn’t make it.
"Let's do some living... after we die"
Instead of trading a revolving door of players every February
How about bringing in a real friggin coach who can mold some of the underachieving talent that we do have.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
And let me add...
The Bulls great vision, grand plan:
They fired Skiles on Christmas, and had an entire 6 1/2 – 7 months to target their new head coach… and all they could come up with was Vinny friggin Del Negro.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.
Hinrich
is declining, his best basketball is behind him
by QUINTEN DALEY on Feb 17, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Rose
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I think he's making the claim that Rose would be substantially better with a better coach
Which probably would be true.
Perhaps,
but in what way? His jumper is MUCH better, his court vision is improving, his defense is improving, his leadership is improving, and he’s becoming the team’s leader this season. I mean, seriously, what more can you expect, even if they had the best coach ever?
we'll never know :-p
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
It could all be improving at a faster rate.
Tyreke Evans is better than him right now, and that makes me sadface.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Rose will be a top 5 player in the league
Evans might crack the top 20.
I thought Rose would start the ASG this year. Damn fans and their ballots!
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
we already know your method is madness
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
i would bet on evans being an all-star/top 20 next year.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
If I knew how good of a passer Rose can become, I'd take him.
As of now, that’s all he has over Evans.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Rose is also more explosive and has a better jumper than Evans
I’m confident he can learn defense and that he’ll get to the line more. Rose seems to have the higher ceiling, so I think I’d take him over Evans. Especially since he’ll (hopefully) have a real coach starting next season.
Personally, I think the whole point is moot anyways, because I don’t buy for a second that Evans is a PG.
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
So you want the Bulls to go back in time and get
Stoudemire?
Or do you want the Bulls to make no moves and instead bring in a coach that will turn this barely playoff level team into a championship contender?
Excuse me if i’m skeptical about your proposals, but i’ll take the free agent lottery over either of those choices, despite the fact that you’ve assured me that you’ve looked into the future and saw that no all-star is willing to join the Bulls.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
BREAKING NEWS
It’s very very quite out there in rumor land. I can’t find a damn thing! Sorry
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Yeah thanks ESPN!
BREAKING NEWS my name is Mark Schanowski and I’m a douche!
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Its time to trade Hinrich for the Lakers poo-poo platter
Enough grandstanding. Enough searching for a better deal. Boston and Washington are off the table. Its not clear if anyone else was ever on the table. the Lakers reportedly want Hinrich, the Bulls just have to accept back Sasha. Well, lets do it.
Hinrich, JJ and Pargo for Farmar, Vujacic, Morrison and DJ Mbenga. I’d ask for the Lakers pick as well, but if they refused, oh well. The Bulls would shave about $5 million off next year’s salary cap. Farmar is good enough to be a credible back up point guard. We move Salmons back to the starting line up and we go however far Rose takes for the rest of the season. Because that is how far we are going anyway.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 17, 2010 2:14 PM CST reply actions
It's really fucking
sad that it’s come down to this, when we could have traded Captain Thrust for expirings numerous times now. Oh yeah, and we could have traded Salmons this offseason when he had real value. This is a disaster for the Org., but I guess it goes down to the old saying: you snooze, you lose. Idiots.
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
Lets see what happens tomorrow.
(As I tighten the noose around my neck.)
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
It just seems like they're running out of options
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
I know.
I really really really wanted the Jefferson trade to go down. That was like a dream for me. i was hoping it would build steam.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
That's a trade we can revisit in the Summer
the way Khan reportedly prefers.
Kahn reportedly is trying to pry Darko away from the Knicks for Brian Cardinal. That would indicate he’s trying to see what pairing Jefferson with a defensive center may yield.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Darko is the most under rated player of all time
havent you seen his rant on youtube?
havent you seen his post up moves
let the offense run through darko and magic will happen
"Where is my poster machine??"
link?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
ESPN Trade roundup
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if they'd do it if we threw in a future first?
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
Lindsey has a non-trade clause, I do believe
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Chad Ford update on espn.com 5 minutes ago...
Knicks say Rockets asking for too much…but Rockets still like Knicks deal better than Bulls’ even if the Knicks don’t give them everything they want
Dave P
www.dabullseye.com
Da Bulls' Eye Forum Now Open
Basically, this deal isn't happening...
and we knew it never was…whether that actually matters is yet to be seen
Dave P
www.dabullseye.com
Da Bulls' Eye Forum Now Open
by Da Bulls' Eye on Feb 17, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
soooooooo
We should all just move on?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Yes
Dave P
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by Da Bulls' Eye on Feb 17, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Man those train tracks look kinda cold.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
eeaaaaasyyy boys and toys
lets just take a deeep breath , we still have a chance… remember KG?? “anything is possible” – please… save the negitive for tomorrow after nothing happens
"Where is my poster machine??"
Yeah, I can't wait for tomorrow.
The collective bitch fest here will be epic.
If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.
by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 17, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
im gonna get a fresh pot of coffee
a pack of Marb Lights
and a 30 of Bud heavies
and let it rip
should be a pleasant little thursday
"Where is my poster machine??"
Most here think me + train tracks = positive.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
We'll make a trade
It’ll be OK.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Not suprised
yfbb had the first comment i saw that suggested the Bulls were being used by the Rockets for leverage, and it had the immediate ring of truth to me. The knicks are clearly more desperate to clear cap room than the Bulls, and the Rockets are demanding more than the Bulls will give.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
eh
Don’t we need to clear cap room?
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
but the Knicks are “all or nothing” about their 2010 plan. They will sacrifice anything they have to clear as much room as possible.
The Bulls worry about things like equal value, and one gets the sense that they would be willing to do nothing and pray that Salmons opts out.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
I think the Bulls have a legitimate worry about making the playoffs
Because making the playoffs on the back of your returning team is another way to lure those FAs.
Like, if the Bulls and Knicks are equal to FAs either way, who would you want to play for? The team that won 25 games, or the team that’s got Rose, Deng and Noah?
I agree it's important
But it also means the Bulls will find it hard to match New York.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
The Bulls also
still want to make the playoffs this year.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
I see very little logic for the Rockets and Bulls to trade
Do we really have to do all that to move Salmons?
That’s really the only benefit we’d get out of it. Surely including Tyrus or JJ or a heavily protected pick could get that done.
I guess with Noah out, I see trading Miller and Tyrus both to get TMac as a very iffy decision. If we miss the playoffs, that hurts with luring FAs too.
See I don't think it does...
The Bulls proved they are a .500, borderline playoff team with the pieces they have…actually, if you look after Rose started playing better, they are a very solid team…if they lose just due to depth, I think most FA’s could see this!
It's only worth it
if the Bulls clear up enough cap space to GUARANTEE room to sign a max FA. Otherwise, I don’t want McGrady anywhere near the Bulls.
Larry Coon tweet re: financial implications of possible Bulls/Lakers trade
They’d be $36.6M. If cap $53M, they’d have $16.4M free. RT @dockingsched: how [much cap space] would an ammo/sasha for kirk deal get CHI ?
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
Here is my thing.
The Hinrich to Lakers trade would save the Bulls some money right?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Breaking news!!!!
The Chicago Bulls have traded for Aqua Man from the nation of Atlantis. While his basketball skills are questionable his ability to lead aquatic creatures like Miller (the white whale) and J-Fish should improve the team. This could put the Bulls into title contention unless the Miami Heat can pull of the Green Lantern trade that would make them the odds on favorite for the title.
Admit it this is not the most ridiculous trade idea you have seen today.
Chad Ford
Sources familiar with the negotiations told ESPN.com that although the Knicks told the Rockets they remain interested in acquiring the shooting guard in a deal for Larry Hughes and Jared Jeffries, they are still unwilling to meet all of the Rockets’ demands — cap relief, Jordan Hill, the swapping of 2011 first-round picks and the Knicks’ 2012 first-round pick.
“We’d like McGrady and the cap relief,” one Knicks source said. “But the Rockets are asking for too much. We’re willing to pay a premium to make a deal. But the price right now is still too high.”
According to the source, the Rockets are still looking for other partners. The Bulls have been mentioned as a possibility, but sources believe their offer is less attractive than the Knicks’ — even if the Knicks don’t give the Rockets everything they’re asking for.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=TradeTalkRoundup-2010
Already discussed above
Dave P
www.dabullseye.com
Da Bulls' Eye Forum Now Open
by Da Bulls' Eye on Feb 17, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
LOL Stein.. the Lakers can't afford Hinrich!
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Woj Tweet
The NBA has fined an unspecified team for announcing a trade before its official completion and has warned the others via memo.
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/9250960109
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
Has to be Celtics or Knicks.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Apparently it's the Clippers
Stern put his fingers in his ears when asked which team.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Just read that as well.
MSteinmetzCSN
I’m hearing LAC put on website early. @WojYahooNBA reports unspecified team fined for announcing trade before official
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
The Lakers could basically get Hinrich for FREE
if they just trade morrison and Fisher….the bulls could buy out fisher’s contract so he could go back to LA…….
did you see this?
Shannon Brown(notes) set career highs with 27 points and 10 rebounds while starting in Bryant’s place, and the Lakers kept rolling with a 104-94 victory over the Golden State Warriors on Tuesday night.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
the Lakers don't need Hinrich as much as the Bulls need to get rid of him
if/when the Bulls management realizes that, there will be a deal
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 17, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Dude
DUDE! GSW!
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I know I just hope the Lakers don't think they have something in Brown.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
?
uhh, they do have something. lakers and brown are on the telly all the time, ever catch a game?
"Let's do some living... after we die"
yes yes many players have had standout performances vs warriors this year so far (for some reason)
still, shannon brown looms large on the gaff list
"Let's do some living... after we die"
Holy crap Shannon Brown gets your love?
I can’t wait to see the team that overpays for him. It’ll be even more comical than people thinking Courtney Lee was awesome.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
haha
that truly is the problem. as the spurs showed (and detroit, in a way did, before they done gone stoopid), a good way to win is have your players under reasonable contracts. it’s also a good way to win financially.
somehow, as a fan i’m still able to enjoy deng (and even hinrich).
"Let's do some living... after we die"
Yeah but the Lakers are broke.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
here's a new one
Suns working to get Bulls involved as a 3rd team in Amare trade.
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2010/2/17/1314213/2010/2/17/1314213/amare-stoudemire-trade-rumor
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 3:26 PM CST reply actions
This..
The names mentioned were Iguodala and ….wait for it…Luol Deng and Kirk Hinrich.
Is interesting. They don’t seem thrilled though.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
That report seems to indicate that the 3rd team would pick up Beasley
Doesn’t seem like that would appeal to the Bulls.
yeah you can have Beasley...no thankyou
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
more in-depth
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2010/2/17/1314754/new-twist-in-the-amare-stoudemire
They talk about this stuff on Phoenix radio? I’m assuming on the Score they’re talking about the Bears firing someone and then if the NBA comes up, Bernstein will complain the Bulls don’t have LeBron.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
haha
The score will talk about the Bulls for three seconds and then go off to something else like Tiger Woods. I hate how they cover the Bulls.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
really?
Because lately they’ve been giving the Bulls more airtime than any other team or topic.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
I haven't been listening.
But good for them. I stopped listening when Bernstien made up that Bosh rumor. wait..
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
I'd take a gamble on Beasley in a heartbeat
If it gets rid of Hinrichs contract. And as much as I love Deng, I still think Beasley can be a factor
Yeah but I don't see the Suns taking Hinrich
I guess moving Deng for Beasley + expirings frees up cap room, but I’m really not a big fan of Beasley’s game. I’d prefer to hold on to Deng and try to flip him for Al Jefferson this summer.
I love Deng more than Beasley but Beasley is much cheaper and is productive
I still think you can flip Beasley for someone better eventually as well
i agree with this
they’re PERs are basically equal, beasley’s 3 years younger and much cheaper. this is effectively getting rid of salmons’ contract for 2010 isnt it?
We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro
Miami was trying to flip him
but apparently no one with any player of value is interested. The closer Beasley gets to his new contract the less valuable he becomes.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
I guess I didnt realize his stats were so good,
15.5 PPG — 6.6 RPG, I suppose I could put up with that.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
Having Beasley on my fantasy team
and watching where he’s getting his minutes on PopcornMachine.net, he’s basically just like Luol Deng, but more inconsistent and has issues getting along with his teammates. They still prefer Udonis Haslem in the 4th quarter.
he just looks like a thug/locker room problem waiting to happen.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
The problem with Beasley is defense
He’s almost as bad as Gallinari.
He does have at least a dozen different ways to score. He’s really a 3, but about half of his moves are back to the basket and face up looks. He needs a system that is really designed to unlock his potential.
I don’t like him with Rose. I’d rather just stay with Deng.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
my biggest concern
which may not be justified, is beasley seems to fall into that JR Smith, T2 type of talent. Pretty raw, not necessarily a Duke/UConn pedigree. Bulls haven’t had the best track record developing guys like this. Talentwise, I’m on board. though
We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro
Interesting
I can’t imagine the Bulls would just do a pure salary dump of Deng, and the credible reports that he was offered up for Al suggests to me that the Bulls would want more than just Z back.
- Why not just cut out the middle-man and do Deng/parts for Amare. Oh, that’d put them over the luxury tax.
- So Beasley + Cap relief makes pretty good sense. They’d sort of kill two birds with one stone there, although I can’t imagine anyone is enthusiastic about Beasley. It’s kind of funny if you think about it. The financial and “post scoring” factors drive the Bulls to this conclusion, but it would force them to take a big personality risk.
Yeah, but without Tyson/Eddy or Tyrus, who's character are they going to assasinate?
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
they'd probably just go back to saying Deng is faking injuries
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
as long as he doesn't wear a headband
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
he really would be a fantastic replacement of TT as the franchise whipping boy.
he’s got everything!
by M 80 on Feb 17, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
A trade like this
Deng/JJ/Pargo to Suns (-$4.08M in salary)
Beasley, Q, Collins to Bulls ($0.3M… still under the tax)
Amare, Amundson to Heat ($3.9M in salary, and they’re over the luxury tax, so this costs even more).
I think the Suns are still about $5M over the tax, so maybe even this amount of savings won’t get them under the LT threshold, but it’d probably get them pretty close. Maybe they could send Grant Hill off to a contender for some cheapo guy and get themselves under the tax entirely?
Yep, if you add Hill to the Heat and send Chalmers+Cook back to the Suns, you get the Suns under the tax.
You also get a deal that seems to help every team:
The Bulls
1- Rose
2- Kurt, Q
3- Salmons
4- Beasley, Taj
5- Noah, Miller
We’ve got our max cap space for next year, and a scoring 4.
The Heat
1- Alston, Arroyo
2- Wade
3- Hill, Wright
4- Amare, Haslem
5- JO’N
They get a major upgrade in Amare and a feel-goo, d limited-minute star in Hill to pitch Wade that this is all going to work out.
The Suns
1- Nash, Chalmers
2- JRich, Barbosa, Cook, Pargo
3- Deng, Dudley, Dragic
4- Clark, JJ
5- Lopez, Frye
OK, I’d see lots of JRich at the 3 and Deng at the 4. That’s kind of nasty, but what do they expect in shedding enough salary to get under the LT? They’ve still got Nash and lots of guys to score.
What's taking Houston so long to decide what offer should they accept?
Is there any news about that subject? I’m too anxious…
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
Waiting on the Knicks
Walsh and Dolan are meeting today. They’re trying to decide what protection to use in the picks they deal to Houston.
Knicks also trying to trade Nate that will bring back something interesting(picks maybe) since he’s BYC contract.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe the Chicago offer doesn't exist
or isn’t what we’re being told
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Or just sucks
Ford is probably right. The Rockets are trying to use the Bulls to get the Knicks to cough up more, but the Knicks know that even if they don’t, they’re offering more than the Bulls.
It seems you're right
sources told SN that the Rockets are now indicating they are leaning toward not trading McGrady—for now, at least. Houston, apparently, is unhappy with the offers it has gotten from the Bulls and the Knicks, which would involve the Rockets taking on too much long-term salary and not getting enough young assets in return.
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
I don't see that
Depends on if the deal is getting them under the LT
Saving them $10M net (in LT) + Hill + a first rounder of any sort is still very good compensation for taking Jeffries.
Between this and the Damon sweepstakes on the SouthSide Im about to FrEaK out!
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
Heyy people
Just woke up….missed the last 12 hours…and to my surprise ( " ) NOTHING HAS HAPPENED lol …
you sleep 12 hours a night?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
lol geez...i do have a job
I slept 12 hours this night cause i have a day off….i think we should start a thread about this
nba.com on tyrus
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/steve_aschburner/02/17/thomas/index.html
With his superior physique and athletic ability, lets give him another year with a new valid coach. LETS KEEP TYRUS AND GO FOR LEBRON BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Rockets blog has a running update
on the McGrady talks, that’s easier to understand than reading through the comments here.
http://www.thedreamshake.com/2010/2/16/1313870/2010/2/16/1313870/tracy-mcgrady-trade-rumors-update
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
how dare you.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
lol
it actually did cross my mind that I was being a bit disloyal, but I figured that since McGrady is their player, they’re supposed to have better reporting on him.
If another blog has better updates on Tyrus, then we’re in trouble.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Breaking News! Tigers sign Johnny Damon, then trade him to the White Sox for Tyrus Thomas and a push cart full of elotes.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
Woj: Bulls are out of the TMEC-stakes
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
Bulls have fallen out of consideration for TMac and Houston focus on negotiating draft pick protection to complete NY deal, sources say.
“I guess Chicago could emerge again,” a source involved in talks told Y! Sports, “but it doesn’t look that way now.”
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2010 4:54 PM CST reply actions
Bulls were just leverage for Houston.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
This is going to be a strange game.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Ford:
Breaking: Knicks agree to trade Darko to Wolves for Cardinal (link forthcoming)
OMGZ TRADE FREAKOUT!!!!
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
Damn Knicks.
Have fun with Bron & Bosh & crap.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
HOLY SHIT, VICTORYYYY!!!!
SALMONS GONE?!?!?!??!?!
KC:
Bulls management has told Salmons to remain at team hotel as it works to finalize a trade. Won’t play vs. Knicks.
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
Damn poor Fish!
But yeah bulls!
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
LINK:
http://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/9255591422
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
I'm wondering what this supposed deal is, though.
I literally haven’t seen Salmons in one credible rumor. And KC said last night that he had “zero” interest around the league.
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
yeah he did thats odd.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Im wonderin the same
who knows..hopefully itll lead to another deal
by SuperStarRose on Feb 17, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
So once again
The stuff we hear about is just rumor crap, yet the Bulls are working on stuff that no one knows of till it’s done?
by wjb1492 on Feb 17, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Amazing isn't it? ;-)
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
Just one more way
that KC has endeared himself to me.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
but for whoooooom?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
doggy dog world.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Whoa. Nice find
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
Bernstien just commented on this.
I think he reads this blog btw.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
I actually love that KC is reporting it because he is so incredibly cautious not to spew bullshit
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Couldn't we wait til after the game to do this?
Not like I really care cause a trade is far and away the most important thing, but it would’ve been kind of nice to have fish for tonights game. We really need this one and we’ve waited this long already, what’s a few more hours?
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
We beat them by like 40 or whatever yesterday...
I hardly think Salmons absence should sway the tide.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
Come on, it's the NBA and it's a road game on a back to back
Are you really that sure of a victory? Plus fish played really well yesterday
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
Was he a +40?
I didn’t watch it.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i thought the players sit out
on the verge of a trade so they aren’t injured?
We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro
I just thrust all over myself
Maybe we three way’d something to get someone under the tax.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2010 5:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So many things wrong with this post...
I’m not gonna touch it.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
That's what she said!
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
OMG
ITS NOT KIRK!!!???? YESSSSSSSSSSSS
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Soooooo...
You ARE a 12 year old girl after all?
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
damn my secret is out
wait…u thought i was a 12 year old girl ??? ah my rep here sucks….
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Could be worse...
Sometimes people really think I am Khalid El-Amin.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Marc Stein is on it too now:
The Chicago Bulls are holding guard John Salmons out of Wednesday’s game at New York in anticipation of a trade, ESPN.com has learned.
Salmons’ destination could not be immediately confirmed, but the Bulls have made the decision to pull Salmons out of the game against the Knicks because he is going to be traded before Thursday’s 3 p.m. trading deadline.
Any team willing to take on Salmons has to pay him $5.8 million next season.
The Bulls have been trying to force teams interested in Tyrus Thomas to include Salmons in the deal or include him as part of a package for Houston’s Tracy McGrady.
Neil takes the fun out of funk
I fucked that up, the last bit on the botton should be block quoted as well
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Totally left out the option part of Fish's contract.
I have a freezer full of salmon for Bulls’ game nights – what’ll I do with it if Fish goes? ;)
I thought Salmons had a clause in his contract that caused his base pay to raise everytime he was traded...
Or was it just the one time he was traded from Sacramento?
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
But then why have only Salmons not play?
You’d think that if it’s a multi-player trade, that all Bulls’ players in the deal would be told to stay at the hotel.
Why do so many dumb people call the score?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Nice! Let's get Kirk out of here
and we good to go!
by The90sBullsRevival on Feb 17, 2010 5:13 PM CST reply actions
Time to drink.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Because, no need to tell Tyrus to stay home...
VDN will just sit him anyway.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
If I had to guess...I would say Salmons for Eddie House
Dave P
www.dabullseye.com
Da Bulls' Eye Forum Now Open
Interesting...
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Just as a means to screw over the Knicks
Dave P
www.dabullseye.com
Da Bulls' Eye Forum Now Open
by Da Bulls' Eye on Feb 17, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Aren't those always the best moves? :)
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
I thought House was traded for Nate Robinson?
by NerdVernacular on Feb 17, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Not officially
Dave P
www.dabullseye.com
Da Bulls' Eye Forum Now Open
by Da Bulls' Eye on Feb 17, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Somehow I don't think Salmons for Amare straight up works...
No matter how many draft picks are included.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing really significant, but
Bulls close to a deal to trade John Salmons. Salmons won’t play Wednesday against the Knicks. Deal gets Bulls under cap to sign a max f/a
That is pretty significant
because it definitely means that Salmons isn’t just part of a larger deal to bring a really good player in
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
This is strange why is it that we're only hearing about Salmons sitting out?
Shouldn’t there be more?
Neil takes the fun out of funk
thats what i was saying
this might be a strictly salary dump move. ie. expiring contracts +2nd round draft picks?
Which isn't bad...
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
Absatively
I know you were’nt saying it as a negative, but I was just clarifying:)
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
because of the memo the league got...
not to announce trades before they are finalized
Dave P
www.dabullseye.com
Da Bulls' Eye Forum Now Open
by Da Bulls' Eye on Feb 17, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
this doesnt sound like a trade
it sounds like a motherfking miracle
by sin on Feb 17, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
I doubt anyone would wanna take on Salmons straight up for anything
I mean when you have Chicago basically offering all their “assets” only if you pick between Salmons or Hinrich to go with those players, it’s hard to believe someone would only want him
i would imagine some kind of draft pick is invovled
if its just salmons
We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro
Blech
Oh well, I can still use Salmons in NBA 2k9. I actually can make him average something worth trading Deng for.
Interesting kc and sam haven't mentioned the party.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
The Bulls really do operate more covertly than any team in the league
Last year’s trade with the Kings came out of nowhere as well
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
This is why
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yhm77kr
Salmons and fat boy Jerome James
For
Amare
Yeah, using him killed their team.
Though I’d agree that getting him in the first place was pretty stupid.
I'm sure they'll have KC leading Chicago Tribune live in about five minutes
Neil takes the fun out of funk
I'm guessing Salmons to Portland...
For 2nd round picks.
Just a guess.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
It's not Houston says Burnsie
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
hmmm...
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
via the tribune
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
sam
Sam Smith said the team is unknown but both team have agreed in principal but probably won’t be finalized until tomorrow morning. Salmons is the best player in the trade but we should get two guys that can help us
Bucks or Magic?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
That rules out Portland for 2nd round picks...
I could still see them trading for him though considering they just got Camby for Blake and Outlaw.
With Roy still banged up I could see them getting someone there to spell Bayless minutes.
Just a thought.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Spurs?
I know they were shopping Mason, could use a guard, and have two cheap expirings (Mason/Finley) to send back.
that was be great!
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
True...
That’s probably a more likely destination.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 17, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Will we be getting enough back? Salmons has a very team friendly contract...
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
Yea, you're right, silly me
Neil takes the fun out of funk
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 17, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
why Washington why?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
I was more scared about Amare going there
Plus Jamison is older, contract is longer and now if they don’t win it . . . he’ll really bolt
Yup, me too
I don’t get the love for Jamison. He might be a nice guy, but he’s pretty much been a loser on the court.
Everyone is a winner when they play next to the King.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Except the King
who hasn’t won yet.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
look at it this way
amare wont go there now, and pheonix likes them some kirk hinrich….
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
don't tease me!
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
well amare isnt going to cleavland
and it seemed like he was getting traded…plus jerome james, john salmons…this is ure dream man…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
It's killing me this year
because I have a ton of stuff going on – usually I try to clear draft day and trade deadline day to do nothing but sit at the computer and watch for breaking news.
this is the only reason i have twitter.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Hollinger
Just a thought: 3rd team in Cle-Was could be Chicago. Z, Moon for Salmons, Jamison, and then trade Gooden into newly created Chi exception
blehhh
but ok. I wanted it to be orlando.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Well, Gooden would definitely
be better than Chris Richard. Plus, if the Bulls trade Tyrus, Gooden can fill in for the rest of this year without the Bulls falling apart.
Or the Bulls could just buy him out.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
It was just last night that KC said there is zero interest for Salmons
I can’t believe anything at all anymore
I got out class at 4:55
i was going to do some hw, but first i checked blogabull, it all seemed dull and boring, and hten…WHAMO i saw the first flood of posts when i read the words Salmons is gone!!!!!
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Also some food for thought
Now that the Cavs have made their move, does this force the Lakers hand?
Hinrich time?
Bernstein is funny!
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Cleveland/washington and the Clips
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
I'll take that.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
WojYahooNBA
Cavs get Jamison and Telfair, Clippers get Drew Gooden and Wash gets Illgauskas, Al Thornton and Brian Skinner and Cavs 1st round pick.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
none of the Texas teams are involved I guess.
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
My guesses are..
Orlando
Bucks
or Spurs
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
and Z will be cut
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
journeyyyy maaann?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
So the Clippers trade Al Thornton to save $700k in salary this year
Some organizations just suck.
Um, it's about next year. Clips can get a max guy now.
Amazing trade for them.
Thrusting toward the playoffs, one game at a time.
Weird, NBA Trade Machine has
Thornton and Telfair as expirings when they aren’t. You’re right, good trade.
Congrats Management
Trading Salmons was the #1 thing on the priority list. They accomplished it.
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yess
why not just do the Lakers trade and take on shshshshacic?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
That's what I mean
Do that deal now and with Salmons and Hinrich off the books, we still save close to 10 million even with Sasha
so over all how much would the bulls have for 2010?
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
I leave all that shit up to Tyger and company
Too much work. I’m too excited to pull out my calculator
Well I think you have to do the deal with LA now.
JUST DOOOO IT!
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
Seriously?
That must explain her suckage in tennis lately
Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk
So what's the deal that Salmons is involved in?
Too many comments to sift through…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
You gotta think it's going to be someone who's contending this year
Boston/Denver perhaps?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Feb 17, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
Marc Spears
reports that House’s agent has told him he will be traded to NYC between now and tomorrow. House held out of practice today in LA.
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
I'll lock this one and promote the Salmons fanshot
sorry I dared to be away from the internet for an hour, yeesh….
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