Finally, Derrick Rose Is Learning!!!
by Truniac307 on Nov 4, 2010 3:37 AM CDT
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Next focus: Get to the line
Against Oklahoma City in the opener, he made at least three reverse layups by hanging in the air (not that anyone humanly can) and maneuvering past opponents. He says that needs to stop.
Do you believe him when he said avoiding layups needs to stop?
''I'm trying to change it now where instead of avoiding the contact and hitting crazy shots, I'm trying to get fouled and go to the free-throw line,'' he said. ''It's kind of weird for me right now getting used to it, but it's coming along.''
I'm glad to finally read this quote, but I kind of don't want Derrick to stop with his acrobatic layups because he is very efficient in scoring around the basket. If he needs to draw a foul, there's plenty of ways to generate contact without changing the way he attacks the rim. Various players that are efficient in going to the line knows how to sell a foul and if you are on the opposing team, it is irritating to watch because we might consider it unfair or cheating.
Bottom line is, Derrick needs to be more vocal and let the refs know that he is getting fouled so the refs will look for the contact next time much closer. I'm not saying that Derrick needs to start complaining to the officials and become a whiny player, but he just needs to be more vocal talking to the officials to get their awareness. Is there even a balance with being vocal and being a whiny complainer? I'm not sure. If Derrick only starts utilizing pump fakes to get a defender up in the air, he can bait them for a foul.
If you want to generate more fouls attacking the basket, 2 NON SUPERSTARS that sticks out to me that are not getting superstar calls, but just knows how to sell a foul is Corey Maggette and Andre Miller. Corey Maggette's foul calls are mainly from penetration and he knows how to lower his shoulder without it being a charge, and understands how to draw contact efficiently. Andre Miller is just a smart veteran that understands the game and has a high basketball IQ to be effective.
INSTEAD OF UP AND UNDER REVERSE LAYUPS, I PREFER FOR DERRICK TO DUNK MORE AND ATTACK THE BASKET LIKE DWYANE WADE WITH LESS RECKLESSNES. FORGET ABOUT TRYING TO GET CONTACT WHILE ATTEMPTING A LAYUP; JUST DUNK IT!!!
The bottom line and the point of this article is Derrick Rose is finally making an effort to get to the line more and it is a start to becoming a complete player. It seems that every year, he is always working on a weakness and he is attempting to turn it into a strength. Derrick Rose reminds me of a certain Chicago Bulls Superstar from our past. I'm glad that we have a Franchise Player again.
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Obviously we want him getting calls, it’s not as if he doesn’t get hacked anyway….
I’d be more concerned about injuries….any guard who plays like this is prone to twisting ankles and taking bad falls….
I agree
But I wouldn’t want derrick to stop his up and under layups because he makes it with high efficiency. He can get calls in a variety of ways without getting rid of his acrobatic layups that he mostly makes anyway.
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He doesn't need to stop the acrobatic layups
The shots that need to generate free throws are the floaters close to the basket and other drives where he would have a hard time even attempting an acrobatic layup. Also, he has to yell a little bit and let the refs know. You’d think it would be pretty simple for a guy as good as him, I’m not sure why he’s having so much trouble figuring it out
Superteams suck.
Rose is not a complainer, but he is getting frustrated with the non calls
I want to see Rose resort to tactics like purposely getting his opponents to foul him so he can get the other players in foul trouble to disrupt their game. I think it is a very effective and good strategy to get the other team in foul trouble.
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Well, he shouldn't get frustrated, it's his fault
The idea that there’s some sort of ref conspiracy going on to keep Derrick from the free throw line is just silly. He’s just not doing enough to put the pressure on the officials.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 4, 2010 4:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Like what Brandon Roy said
He used to not get foul calls until he started complaining to the officials like how the other superstars complain.
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John Wall is a rookie and he seems to go to the line more than Derrick does
Does this mean that John Wall is already getting superstar calls or he just doesn’t use his athleticism to avoid contact?
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The second one
When Wall bursts into the line, he’s not moving or angling his body AT ALL. He just kinda plows through the lane, absorbing whatever contact he can, then hoists up his best shot. I also think Rose doesn’t have very good recognition, he has to realize what can of plays get called, at what times.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 4, 2010 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions
So I guess there is no such thing as "rookies don't get calls"
If it wasn’t John Wall penetrating, will it be called a charge or just a non call? The fact that it’s the over hype John Wall, the refs blows the whistle? I haven’t watch John Wall play against other teams so I’m not sure how he is getting to the line. I’ve only seen him play during the pre season and saw him get burned by rose a lot during pick and rolls like how Rose used to get burned.
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There isn't. Russell Westbrook proved that.
Same rookie year as Rose, and he got vastly more calls. There was no bias against Rose; he was just too good at avoiding hard contact.
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Wall like most rookies and really athletic players is a train wreck.
Westbrook the same way. Derrick has been the exact opposite of that, he’s an atypical player.
Corey Maggette is a beast..
If Rose did the things Maggette did, he’d be broken in a week. I’d rather Rose miss out on a few free throws here and there, and stay healthy
It’d obviously be great to get more calls, but I surely don’t want him to play like Maggette does, that style of play isn’t practical for Rose.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 4, 2010 8:28 AM CDT reply actions
Corey Maggette is 6'6 like 225 Derrick is 6
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by Ugh It Live! on Nov 4, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a good point also
Maybe it’s just better that avoids the contact. It’s better to have this Derrick than an injured one. Some guys just can’t take that kind of beating, especially smaller ones
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by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 4, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's one thing...
With a player of Rose’s size and style of play, has anyone stopped to think that maybe it’s a good thing that he tries to avoid contact? We all call him mini Lebron because of his style of play, problem is he isn’t 6’8 250lbs. Let’s hope he doesn’t play like it in terms of drawing contact because he won’t be around too long. There’s a reason a guy like Wade are so beat up. There’s only so much abuse a body of that size can take in the NBA. I’m sure getting a few more free throws will help his efficiency but I’m OK with him not taking all of that abuse in the paint. Need proof? Two words…Dwight Howard.
Yeah but it worked!
Obviously two people have..
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by Grinder in Training on Nov 4, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
We agree GIT!!!
In the words of our fearless superstar…“That’s crazy” lol
Yeah but it worked!
lol. I didn't see all these same posts before I wrote mine
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by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 4, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm torn
I want Derrick to get to the line more like everybody else, but at the same time, those acrobatic layups are what make Rose who he is. And most of those layups still go in a high enough % of the time where they’re preferable. I don’t want Rose to drastically alter his game to the point where he’s getting to the line more but not scoring more efficiently overall.
Pat Riley is the devil.
I agree. Rose's Trademark is his crazy up and under layup.
As someone said above, he needs to draw contact on his other shots (floaters, etc.). I think this is one point of his game that he should keep the same.
No one makes layups like Derrick does.
He may become a better player, but he also might be less enjoyable to watch.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Nov 4, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions
I am not sure if this actually creates that many more wins.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Nov 4, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
The possible injuries caused by changing his style
may translate into more losses due to missed games, than more wins because of more fts.
i think rose just needs to learn how to fall
in a safe way no doubt…but fall non-the-less……in his 40pt game, in the first half there were some plays when a guy would defend him hard and he would try to get past the guy and just fell…like slipped….and there would be a foul called against the guy guarding him, this happened a few times when i thought there was no foul but because rose fell they gave him the call…..
When rose attacks the rim, hes like a cat, no matter what happens to him in the air he tends to land on his feet and play continues. He has to learn that when he knows hes been hacked, throw up a shot and then land on his feet and sort of collapse towards the floor (landing on his feet to cushion the blow), this way he can not only finish those high percentage layups, but then he can also get the and 1 as well.
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
All of this stuff is dependant on the situation.
When he’s coming down the lane and a PG, SG, SF is in front of him, he should go for the dunk and adjust from there. Going hard to the hoop will give him a good shot to finish and increase the likeliness he goes to the line.
But if he’s looking at a big, I’d prefer he use his floater or just pull up for a short J; I don’t want Derrick out for any extended period of time. I’m not interested in watching the CJ Watson era.
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