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Didn't see this posted here yet. In one of Bill Simmons's recent podcasts, he suggests that the Bulls should reject a potential Nuggets offer of Carmelo Anthony for Luol Deng, Taj Gibson, $3M, and 2 first-round draft picks (including the pick from the Bobcats). In other words, the deal most of us wanted to make all offseason.

I should add that Simmons's guests - Mark Stein and his buddy House - agreed that the Bulls should reject the offer (to be fair, that is off memory - it may have been just House that agreed). The Bulls are playing at a very high level thusfar, and people are taking notice.

Personally, I still think you do the deal assuming 'Melo agrees to an extension - Taj has been great*, but there's no way I let ~15 games influence my opinion of the players involved in the deal to that great an extent. I love this team right now, and am optimistic about the outlook when Boozer gets back...but not optimistic enough to think we'd be able to beat a top-3 team in a Playoff series in this or future seasons.

I know most of us are "'Melo'd out", but I thought this was worth posting.
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*I would also like to take this opportunity to formally offer my apologies to the Organization re: Taj Gibson over DeJuan Blair. I was one of the raving mad lunatics who thought taking Gibson over Blair was asinine and completely indefensible, and while I'm not going over the top in believing that Gibson's new level of performance is as great as what he's done thusfar this year (I think there'll be some regression to the mean; we'll see where that leaves him exactly), I've seen enough to know that the Org was correct in their evaluation of him as a player, and he was clearly the proper choice.

I was loud and "vocal" about my disagreement with the choice when they made it, and I think it's only right that I 'man up' and admit I was wrong. In this case, I'm happy to do so.

over 1 year ago Nas-illmatic_tiny Jivas 14 comments 0 recs  | 

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taj is definetly better than I thought

theres still parts of his games that bug me…his inability to properly catch the ball in the lowpost, his sometimes weak screens, his tendency to foul quickly….but he is still a solid player, he can start for some teams that really need a pf (like the bulls currently) and is liable to be the best backup pf in the league right now…the organization really did a great job this offseason to clean up the mess they sort of made themselves…actually this organization is one of the best at cleaning up its own mistakes…thats better than say the clippers or grizzlies….who just make messes

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Nov 26, 2010 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

yeah, sorry Matt - feel free to move

I wasn’t planning on editorializing so much! :)

"You can't be afraid to play somebody because they've got 3 really good players. How are you going to win if you're afraid to play? We're not going to be afraid to play - we're going to fight, we're going to attack, we're going to throw it out there and see what happens." - Carlos Boozer

by Jivas on Nov 26, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe thats a lot now?

Depending on how desperate Denver gets you offer Deng,picks, cash, player to be named not Taj?

by SoulEater7 on Nov 26, 2010 5:36 PM CST reply actions  

i'm sure they really appreciate your apology

and no adding carmelo and subtracting deng and gibson puts this team over the top. no way. and that bobacts pick could be gold down the line.

by John T. Unger on Nov 26, 2010 7:10 PM CST reply actions  

How far down the road are you thinking?

Because the pick doesn’t lose it’s top-10 protection until like 2015.

by msquared10 on Nov 27, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Right.

By then, we’ll have fired Doug Collins for the 2nd time….

by cubbybear on Nov 28, 2010 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I listened to the podcast yesterday

The offer was only deng, Taj, and chicago’s 1st round pick, and Simmons, Mark Stein, and some other random guy all said there was no way they’d make that trade if they were Chicago. The reason seemed to be they were highly impressed with Taj, and his value, and the defensive dropoff from getting rid of both Deng and Taj.

Consensus seemed to be that Boozer would provide enough offensive help and that Carmelo would just be overkill.

The only think I really took from all this is that Taj has an even higher value to outsiders than I thought.

by runningman on Nov 26, 2010 7:52 PM CST reply actions  

Taj isn't just a toss in anymore..

We knew he was ok, going into this season, but he has turned himself into a valuable asset. Look at his production compared to Bosh’s this year, I know it’s early, but I’d rather have Taj at this point. At least he plays D

by Ceasaleo on Nov 27, 2010 3:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

id love to keep taj

but deng has got to go

Clyde: What was his name again?
His Partner: "Ah - sheeeek"
Clyde: Bless you.

by sin on Nov 27, 2010 6:07 PM CST reply actions  

I am getting tired of this...

These national guys and their opinions are pretty useless…In the past we heard the Bulls would be crazy not to include Noah in a deal for ’Melo, now they are highly impressed with Taj? WTF? Meanwhile, many Bulls fans and Bulls followers are not convinced that Melo alone for Deng + #1 pick is really enough of an upgrade to make the deal…

Why can’t this Melo talk all be placed in the same thread…?

Is this even a basketball game anymore, or am I watching a referee themed television show? -Juiceboxjerry

by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 28, 2010 9:28 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

uuhhh Deng + #1 pick should be a done deal.....to ANY Bulls fans

adding Taj (and more picks?) starts to make you wince a little.
If you do it, team still may not be elite…due to depth.

Cos Id imagine if Melo come for Deng and Taj, that’ll move Korver to a starting job with Brewer, then all you have on the bench is CJ, Asik, JJ and Bogans…which is…..passable…. i guess…..but I dunno, i feel better about our bench when it consists of Brewer Korver and Taj, you know?

Dont get me wrong a starting lineup of Rose, Brewer, Korver, Melo and Noah is pretty dam badass, but our bench will be thin.

Well lose height, rebounding and defense if we make this deal (plus future talent), for what, ‘star power’ ?

I dunno…..risky at this stage i think, would a more skilled SG not be a better way to go?
stick with Rose, Boozer and Noah as our Star Power??

I think we are near elite now, add Boozer and Im not sure we need Melo. With a bit more talent at SG, this team doesn’t have many weaknesses, and they ones they have, are ones that can be improved on with time.

I vote OJ Mayo (or other young SG with talent that could fit in with us etc)

Boom! Asik, Asik, Asik the room.

by mrdope on Nov 28, 2010 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

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