Deja -vu all over again - Scott Skiles needing to be fired
by chgobr on Nov 20, 2010 11:52 AM CST
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PrintI was reading Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel and saw comments that looked all too familiar. John Salmons not the same player he was last year and it is time to fire Scott Skiles. Here are some highlights from the Milwaukee paper. Does this remind you of the 2007-8 season?
Well Milwaukee Buck's fans I personally think its time we sent Mr Skiles packing. I just do not think he has what it takes to get the most out of this young Buck's team. Time to bring in a coach who is going to drag some kind of offense outta these over paid slugs. Scotty ain't the one!!
Redd is not the answer, a TRUE scorer, a REAL Coach is what this team needs...
Milwaukee Bucks' main logo and selling point:
"Work Hard, Play Hard".
What a joke and inappropriate logo for a pathetic and underacheiving team like this!!!
I saw the game on the NBA Leauge Pass. The two main stars of the team (AB and BJ) were the lazyest and the worst players on the court! JS and EI are not even shadows of what they were last season! ............ BJ complained all summer about not being selected for the olympic team (what a joke there!), and constantly talked about how he is going to be an all star this year (sure!!), having double-double average (yeb!!!), ...., etc. TALK ..... TALK ..... TALK ..... TALK ..... TALK .....PATHETIC!!
Trust and professional respect do not come by cheap talks, THEY ARE EARNED ON THE COURT! Has anyone watched Chicago games this season? As much as I hate to say it, they are playing excellent team basketball, and are deservingly on the top of the Centeral Division. ............."Fear The Deer" should be put in rest, at least for the time being, until the team truly deserves such an emotional and heroic logo.
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It's been, what, 3 years right?
I guess it’s about time for the Skiles expiration date.
I have not gone to the Heat Index; and I never will.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Nov 20, 2010 11:55 AM CST reply actions
I live in Milwaukee and the Bucks hate is huge, esp. since last year they proved everyone wrong. Now they just suck.
dear gar/pax,
trade for carmelo anthony.
thank you
by chicago030 on Nov 20, 2010 12:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yeah...
I’m a fellow Milwaukeean (for now at least) and the complete 180 a few of my friends have done on the Bucks is actually quite shocking. I thought last years run was nice but just a little more to do with catching the right teams at the right times. I haven’t watched any games yet but I wonder how well Bogut has done recovering from his fall.
From what Ive seen
Bogut looks fine. The Bucks are just sluggish and not playing well…
dear gar/pax,
trade for carmelo anthony.
thank you
by chicago030 on Nov 21, 2010 11:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know what they're worried about
They were ahead of the Bulls in the Hollinger rankings before the Dallas game. Still top 10.
I’m only half kidding, I think Hollinger’s system does a good job of pointing out teams that have been keeping every game close, had a more difficult or easier schedule than others, and played an unbalanced home/away schedule. Milwaukee is definitely better than their record indicates.
They’re not going to win the central division though.
which is why they should be concerned
this season, its imperative to have a top 3 seed. you’ve got the bulls, heat, magic, celtics, and hawks as the five teams most believe will battle for the top 3 spots. Because of the way the division champion is automatically a top four seed, this easily cause Miami or Orlando to be a 5th seed.
For example:
Say Orlando wins the division at 53-29
The Celtics win the division at 60-22
The Bulls win the division at 51-31
Miami doesnt win the division but goes 52-30
Atlanta doesnt win the division but goes 52-30
Suppose Miami loses the tiebreaker to Atlanta
The seeding would go:
Playoff seeding in this situation would be as follows:
Celtics
Magic
Hawks
Bulls
Heat
6th seed
7th seed
8th seed
Notice anything? Bulls not only get the Heat in round 1, but they don’t even have home court. This is why it is imperative to have a top 3 record.
BaB mods: I "understand" the hollinger rankings just fine. I just don't agree with them or how they are created. And LeBitch being nominated person of the year is a perfectly reasonable thing to make a fanshot about and has nothing to do with power rankings.. So how about you "understand" things before deleting posts and handing out warnings based on what you think you know.
I am guessing that isn't how it turns out.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Nov 20, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
um, Miami is still going to finish with the best record in the East
they won’t touch 70, but 63 to 65 is still very much in reach
by Basketball Smurf on Nov 20, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
There is little evidence thus far to believe that to be true.
They’ve played an easy schedule thus far stacked with home games. They are going to have to prove that the glaring interior weakness and lack of a competent PG will not be an issue.
I have not gone to the Heat Index; and I never will.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Nov 20, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
They're winning by nearly 11 points a game against an above .500 SOS
Obviously, it’s very early, but teams that win by 11 points a game usually win in the upper 60s. The games they’ve lost have been close at the end and many of the games they’ve won have been blow outs. There’s plenty of evidence that this team is loaded and should be feared by the rest of the league.
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
Feared? I think that's hyperbole
They’re just as flawed as any other championship contender, for what it’s worth.
by Stacey_Is_King on Nov 20, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Many of their blowouts have come against woeful teams.
They beat Orlando badly in large part because it was the 2nd night of a back to back for Orlando and it was their home opener. I’ll give them the Phoenix win for sure, but they’ve also blown big leads against bad teams like Charlotte and Toronto at home and blew one against Utah… at home.
When they go on a dominating stretch on the road then I can by into them finishing at the top spot in the East. As it is, they’ve shown no real inclination.
Also, above .500 SOS is nothing special; they are still 13th in the league in SOS and it does not account for having twice as many home games as road games thus far.
I have not gone to the Heat Index; and I never will.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Nov 20, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with everything but you have to give them the Orlando one too
Orlando played the night before against Washington, who I believe at the time was without Arenas, whom they absolutely blew out. The Orlando-Miami game was the only Heat game I watched and they thoroughly whooped Orlando.
If Atlanta finishes with as good a record as Miami, Joe Johnson should get paid double what he's getting.
Pat Riley is the devil.
HOLY HELL, IT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE SITUATION. Rearrange the teams as you like. The point is if you dont want to face one of those in the first round, you need to be top 3 and yes, Miami is possible
BaB mods: I "understand" the hollinger rankings just fine. I just don't agree with them or how they are created. And LeBitch being nominated person of the year is a perfectly reasonable thing to make a fanshot about and has nothing to do with power rankings.. So how about you "understand" things before deleting posts and handing out warnings based on what you think you know.
new trend...i like it
who the fuck is John Wall
by paddyfairview on Nov 20, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Lucky for Scott
The Bucks GM brought in high-energy team first additions this off season. I’m sure Drew Gooden and Corey Maggette can help him guide the team through this rough stretch.
Mostly though I think its just silly fans with unrealistic expectations and no ability to actually analyze their teams play. They have 2 bad road loses, not quite the end of the world yet.
It does look familiar: jackasses overreacting over one game in a newspaper comments section
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
by snley on Nov 20, 2010 2:35 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
the Bucks have to go back to emphasizing Bogut in their offense
they’ll be fine. They won’t be as good as last year, but they will still make the playoffs
by Basketball Smurf on Nov 20, 2010 2:37 PM CST reply actions
Bogut's clearly struggling right now
I don’t see what giving him the ball more is going to accomplish. “Give the ball to Maggette and everyone else get out of the way” is looking like one of their better offensive gameplans.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Skiles will not turn this around
On Christmas Day, we may get 3 exBull firings
Skiles
Vinny
Collins
Including my time in college, I've lived in MIlwaukee for 8 years now. Don't judge the city by comments in the Journal Sentinel
1. The Bucks are 5-7. They lost to the Sixers because Thaddeus Young had a huge night. Big deal.
2. Contrary to what somebody posted near the top, the Bucks “hate” is not huge here and it never has been simply because the Bucks are an afterthought. Even if they were undefeated, this state gives most of its attention to football and both the Badgers and Packers are kicking ass. Once football is over, everyone will be watching Marquette and Wisconsin basketball. Talk to me about how the city feels about the Bucks after March Madness is over. I doubt most people in this city could name the Bucks’ starting 5.
3. The Bucks’ losses have nothing to do with Skiles. He isn’t starting Chris Duhon. They aren’t “tuning him out.” Bogut is playing like shit and so other guys (read: Salmons) are getting exposed. If/when Bogut returns to normal, the Bucks will be fine.
by darksmokepuncher on Nov 20, 2010 4:59 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It really does all come down to Bogut
He was playing near Dwight Howard levels of defense last year, along with good post scoring. Without him they’re really nothing special. Add in a struggling Salmons, and they’re in big trouble.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 20, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Including my time in college, I've lived in MIlwaukee for 8 years now. Don't judge the city by comments in the Journal Sentinel
1. The Bucks are 5-7. They lost to the Sixers because Thaddeus Young had a huge night. Big deal.
2. Contrary to what somebody posted near the top, the Bucks “hate” is not huge here and it never has been simply because the Bucks are an afterthought. Even if they were undefeated, this state gives most of its attention to football and both the Badgers and Packers are kicking ass. Once football is over, everyone will be watching Marquette and Wisconsin basketball. Talk to me about how the city feels about the Bucks after March Madness is over. I doubt most people in this city could name the Bucks’ starting 5.
3. The Bucks’ losses have nothing to do with Skiles. He isn’t starting Chris Duhon. They aren’t “tuning him out.” Bogut is playing like shit and so other guys (read: Salmons) are getting exposed. If/when Bogut returns to normal, the Bucks will be fine.
by darksmokepuncher on Nov 20, 2010 5:00 PM CST reply actions
…Packers are kicking ass
So then the Bears are… punting ass?
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
by Sir Buckets on Nov 20, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
that post was so preachy, I had to post it twice.
I know the answer to this question, but is there no way to delete double posts?
by darksmokepuncher on Nov 20, 2010 5:02 PM CST reply actions
You could dedicate the rest of your life to building a time machine I suppose...
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
by Sir Buckets on Nov 20, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
they had a good season
then they decided to pursue Maggette and Gooden to ball hogs that put up empty stats instead of developing Ilyasova and Mbah a moute
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