Pistons @ Bulls Game Thread Overflow 2
by Sports2 on Oct 30, 2010 9:35 PM CDT
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PrintRoaring back, Bulls by 4. 2 minutes to go, plus the letting it all out after the game.
Update: Bulls win.
Thoughts to sleep on:
* Rose's 39 was nice
* I truly hope JJ's defense puts an end to the Brian Scalabrine era
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James Pippen for good games.
Jimmy Johns for bad. Today? JAAAAAMES PIPPEN!!
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 9:38 PM CDT reply actions
So long, Luol.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:38 PM CDT reply actions
That's exactly what I saw too
Thibs oddly praised Luol in the post game though so who knows.
I am surprised, I know it’s two games, but these are some of the worst Luol games ever offensively, ever….well save for injured Luol…..
I wonder when the injury excuse starts to come to light.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
You're exaggerating
Luol has games like this every season. You all need to calm down.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 31, 2010 3:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Not last year...
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
JJ makes Deng completely expendable
... And Thibs said, "Let there be 3's" and Deng made 3's
And Deng saw the 3's, that they were good
And didn't shoot long 2's anymore.
by windycitywarrior on Oct 30, 2010 9:38 PM CDT reply actions
Deng by himself makes Deng expendable....
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-) , although his carnage of the development of the team still persist"
Man, this game has me just....what an emotional surge.
From depressed, constant cynicism to just HAPPINESS.
JJ has been HUGE in the 4th
"I want to be that guy. I want to be the reason the Bulls are back."- Derrick Rose.
"I'm never leaving Chicago."- Derrick Rose
James Johnson with the LeBron chasedown block.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:38 PM CDT reply actions
JJ awesome!!
"Are you drowning them or makin' love to them?"
by Bullsarenumber1 on Oct 30, 2010 9:39 PM CDT reply actions
cause he's masquerading on halloween eve as a starter....
we should be happy with our $60 million dollar player who sometimes plays great defense. How about his 3rd qtr shut-down of BG..
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-) , although his carnage of the development of the team still persist"
Why didn't Rose shoot that one.
Best players shoot T’s, IMO.
Yes
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Hope no one sweats the TOs by Rose
He is going to have some high TO games. Especially when he usage is as high as it is tonight.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
Detroit sucks!
Haha UC crowd..
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
Thanks for the new thread
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
According to some the game
and season were over at half time.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Rose says to Pistons..
hammer nails meet coffin
"Are you drowning them or makin' love to them?"
by Bullsarenumber1 on Oct 30, 2010 9:41 PM CDT reply actions
JJ!
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:41 PM CDT reply actions
9 in 18 min
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
I called the W back in the first half.
Nostradamos!
JJ making a point to Thibs.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Man I hope this isn't JJ having his Tyrus Thomas game
where we all jump on his bandwagon and then he does nothing for the next 2 weeks
by juicewolta on Oct 30, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
+10000000000000
WEAVER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Big Macs!
Oh wait, I’m not at the UC.
Also, I hate Big Macs.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
We love our Big Macs in the Chi
"Are you drowning them or makin' love to them?"
by Bullsarenumber1 on Oct 30, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions
if you were Bulls mgmt, and had to do payroll.. you wouldn't say "Deng who?"
you might say Deng sh..!
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-) , although his carnage of the development of the team still persist"
Test JJ's blood for doping lol.
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Oct 30, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions
Our bench played hungry tonight.
Asik, Korver and JJ did their things tonight.
JJ has GOT to get more playing time after tonight.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
0 boards for Taj
Boozer, hurry back, please!
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
Wow
That’s funny because when Taj wasn’t in foul trouble I really thought he played well tonight…..
I’m shocked by 0 boards….but so be it. Still he seemed to hit a basket here or there to kill some leads (didn’t do a ton, but when I noticed him I liked him today)
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
Does Big Ben even look at the basket when he shoots?
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Oct 30, 2010 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
Rose!
Score 40!
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
Joakim is just a hustle guy
15/17 with 3 blocked shots. That’s quite some hustling he’s doing.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
It's amazing how much our mood has changed in this game
... And Thibs said, "Let there be 3's" and Deng made 3's
And Deng saw the 3's, that they were good
And didn't shoot long 2's anymore.
by windycitywarrior on Oct 30, 2010 9:44 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously where are
the whiners? They can bitch about this team when they are down but disappear when they are winning?
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I was whining because they looked like dogshit. They stopped looking like dogshit and now I'm happy. I didn't go anywhere.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Stay in here and
cheer with us next time. The more the merrier. :D
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I deleted BaB from my bookmarks midway through the 2nd quarter.
I have a problem.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
This game
Almost made me know what that Sacto game must have been like for Sacto fans last year….almost. 15 pts down in the 4th and we win by what 9-11?
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
Are they seriously fouling?
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:44 PM CDT reply actions
101-91
[Dances]
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Oct 30, 2010 9:44 PM CDT reply actions
"Better pack my bags"
... And Thibs said, "Let there be 3's" and Deng made 3's
And Deng saw the 3's, that they were good
And didn't shoot long 2's anymore.
by windycitywarrior on Oct 30, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm popular in England,,,actually I'm a star...
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-) , although his carnage of the development of the team still persist"
JJ and Asik
are our X factors for the season. Very impressed with both defensively. Really do want Thibs to realize – you can’t be an elite defensive team playing Scalabrine and Korver as your forwards.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
JJ played lockdown defense on
Villenuava and Prince. He really should be the starting SF
Yeah but it worked!
Whoever pointed out Walls stats in their *loss* to the Hawks
Check out Rose’s stats in their win.
39-6-7 with 10-13 FTs
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
That's a superstar line. Especially with the 59.6 TS% that it came with.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be me
And I’ll happily eat that crow. Fact is, Derrick needs to continue this. It was a great game, but it was one game
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 30, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a hell of a standard you have
I doubt he avg 39ppg for the season. He’s fine and has improved as a player every year. His team is subpar but he’s great.
Yeah but it worked!
Obv I don't mean he has to score 39 a game
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 30, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
The game where he scored 28 on 31 shots was also one game.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
It continued a trend of him being inefficient though. That was the worrying thing.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
That trend was bucked for the final 3+ months of last season,
so please go away.
He still wasn't terribly efficient during that stretch. He was solid, but he still wasn't getting to the line like he needs to.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you were the one that pointed out that over those three months
he was in Wade/Bron territory in terms of both his USG and TS. Whover did pointed out some crazy impressive stats.
I did point it out. It was his USG% and AST% though. His TS% was still lower than those guys.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude chillax
Nobody is saying Rose is a bad player. Just that he wasn’t as good as he could or needed to be
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 30, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
No more Derrick Rose criticism. k?
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:46 PM CDT reply actions
I never did.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
dont die rose.
its ok to lose in game 2.
by Uncle Stanley McGoober on Oct 30, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine how well this team could play if:
1. They are consistent.
2. They had Boozer.
3. If Deng shows up.
4. If they had a SG.
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Oct 30, 2010 9:46 PM CDT reply actions
But the Bulls have these things lol.
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Oct 30, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Deng will show up
It’s so odd he looked really good in the preseason….I nearly nabbed him in my fantasy as I was worried he’s surprise and take pts from Boozer when Booz came back.
But suddenly he’s looking like he’s in Skiles doghouse except he’s not on the Bucks.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
Great comeback, however...
They did have to have a dramatic comeback at home against a bad team on the 2nd night of a back to back.
Let’s hope they can keep up that kind of defensive intensity.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 9:47 PM CDT reply actions
I'm sure it was all by design
Getting the W in the end, and crushing the Pistons’ spirits in the process… ;)
They don’t want us to be bored!
The Pistons scored 7 points in a full quarter.
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 30, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Bulls put up 34
Just a great great quarter.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
so um i learned we have two players and james johnson is becoming one
can we get melo or iggy now please
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
JJ really did have a Pippen performance
He was an impact player and rotated well on defense
Yeah but it worked!
Too early
I still believe that Deng can be pre-season Deng. At least I want to believe that.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah Deng can go. I'd trade him for a quality backup
PG right now. Seriously.
Yeah but it worked!
Portland would take Rose for Batum.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Denver, New York/Jersey, Portland, the Bulls
we get Batum
JJ
8 points 9 rebounds 4 assists 3 blocks and 2 steals in 19 minutes
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:47 PM CDT reply actions
Say hello to your scoring leader
Derrick Rose.
He wants to be MVP.
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:49 PM CDT reply actions
Great win, too much Scal.
We already fill the Caucasian quota with Korver.
I think "no defense" quota,
might be a better description. And it’s to the point: we cannot be a great rebounding, defensive, “inside first” team with scalabrine playing.
Let JJ back up taj. God knows he defends power forwards, and rebounds, better.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
pretty disappointed in deng
i was seriously believing he’ll have a great year this season to shut us all up.but meh..deng is deng >.<
he did get to the line tonight. that's a good thing.
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
A few notes:
We may have found a nice bench here. JJ and Asik gave us tons of energy and thats something we deerly need. Korver did exactly what he was supposed to as well: play within the offense, be smart, and hit open shots.
If those three show up the way they did tonight, and we see some improvement quickly from Watson and Brewer, we’ve got ourselves a bench.
Deng struggled tonight, but he did get to the line and that’s a good thing. If he can play the way he did last season even he’ll be just what we needed tonight to not have to come back like that.
Stil questioning Thibs a little. The sub for Scal at the very end when Taj fouled out was smart. He was the best option to make a free throw should he need to. But earlier, Thomas and Asik should have played more.
Bogans and Brewer both need to do a little better at offense, particularly Bogans. Brewer isn’t here to score but he hit an open jumper and he had a fast break layup. Thats fine out of him.
Rose should have been in earlier at the end of the game. We can only hope Thibs gets threw is growing pains quickly.
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
Melo just scored
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:50 PM CDT reply actions
I am afraid the Pistons will get progressively worse.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t win 20 games this year. They just lack passion and are another team that suffers from too many injuries. We won’t have to worry about them for this season, lol!
They are who we thought they were.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
At least we didn't let em off the hook.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
This was 96-98 Bulls type of comeback.
Never in doubt. LOL.
Come on Melo.
You know you want to.
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
Good God the Pistons are pathetic.
Only teams coached by Vinny del Negro should get outscored 34-9 in the 4th quarter.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
this game pretty much sums up
BG and CV as a player. inconsistent players even on the same game
cheering so hard for the nuggets to lose
melo would make us an unbelievable team when boozer is back
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
i just really don't think we'd be able to get him.
they don’t want deng and we’d have to give noah + half the bench without him
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
For those with league pass, if you want to see Wall's beautiful game it's being replayed right now. Bulls should be on again later tonight too.
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
Ben Gordon had ZERO points in the second half.
Apparently there is no “fourth quarter gordon” up there.
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:54 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah they have Stuckey and Hamilton
But I don’t understand why Gordon is used mostly off the bench. Incosistent, yes, but in this day and age, smaller shooting guards are just that.
They tend to not run plays for him and stuff
randomly forget about Gordon in the offense, then he puts up like 12 points randomly, then stop giving him the ball again
WEAVER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Rose is being assertive tho'. I like how he isn't afraid to take control.
This is his team and until other players step up he will do what he must.
Rose should be leading the league in scoring once the stats are updated
and Noah will still be leading the league in scoring.
Asik had a great game too, got us plenty of defensive plays down the stretch.
You mean Noah will be leading the league in rebounding?
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
If both Rose and Noah are leading the league in scoring, we’d be a threat to win it all this year, bar none.
After six seasons, you would think we could get used to
Deng’s Houdini act.
Agreed
He’ll probably drop 30 on Monday and lead us to a win.
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, shut up!
You are the most pessimistic person on here. You are never happy and hate everyone on this team.
Damn, I thought I was that guy!
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 30, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
He makes no sense. I spend more energy thinking about Luol Deng than I do about my own life.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even if it's just a wash,
trading him for Iggy would do wonders for our sanity,
I would expect a hell of a lot more from Iggy and probably continue to go crazy.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Brandon Jennings with a triple double tonight
Bulls Bucks should be a good race in the Central this year.
rondo's triple double last night was fucking sick
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
Sure was
after that, I was sure that Rondo was better than Rose.
And after tonight, I think they’re tied…funny how much one game can change perceptions
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 30, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Rondo is amazing, but...
He can’t score like Rose. Put him on the Bulls, without PP, Allen, and KG to kick it to, and see how good he does.
Add in Shaq here
Shaq’s power game is a perfect fit for an easy 4 Rondo assits.
Rondo can just fly around and around and around the court, and wait until Shaq is at the rim, and pow 4-5 easy assists a game before Shaq gets tired….
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
Rondo is the better passer, Rose is the better scorer imo
i think Rose has the edge overall though. Rose can pass well enough and can take over games. Rondo cant.
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
I still say Rondo's situation is ideal for him.
You think we win this game with a passing PG like Rondo? We’d have struggled to score 75 with Rondo.
Yeah, when your teammates go cold, you can't do much
but still, his passing ability is top 2/3 in the league.
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 30, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
He’s an excellent passer, defender and rebounder for his position, but scoring trumps all for me.
Rose will never touch Rondo's passing ability.
Rondo will never look as unstoppable scoring the ball like Derrick.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i think it will only be a good race until halfway through, barring some variables
Bulls need Johnson, Korver, and Asik to play like the did tonight. They need Watson, Deng, and Brewer to do what they’re supposed to. They need Bogans to hit the open shot, they need Thibs to have a short learning curve, and they need more Thomas and less Scalabrine. If they can pull all that together they should be much better than the Bucks.
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
Scary is
I think Korver has more to give than he’s done in the first 2 games. I think that injury is slowing him a bit.
Once he gets it going we could really be good.
Then Boozer comes and we could be great.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
I still think Jennings is weak
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 30, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Rose > Melo
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
Not the point.
"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 30, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Rose is better than Melo as we speak
Yeah but it worked!
havent see flopping that good since a certain someone was shipped away
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
That was pretty good.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Its terrible
I’m rooting for the Rockets to win because I want Melo to be unhappy and push for a trade. And I was also rooting for the Pacers because I wanted the same for Iggy.
Am I evil?
You're a Melo fan?? Who knew? ;-)
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
neither of those teams want Deng from us though
and without him we’d have to do noah + half the bench
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
Not for Iggy I don't think
Since Andre doesn’t have all-star status and they may want to make more room for Turner to grow, they might be real easy on Andre.
hes bad at managing rotations. ive learned that much
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
Too soon to think anything
He’s been a head coach for 2 games.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
rotations need to improve
More Thomas, less Scal
find the appropriate times for Johnson, Asik, and Korver. Get Brewer and Watson in situations to succeed to help them get on trackj.
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
He's playing Scal
to show the world that Rose is that awesome
by trig on Oct 30, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
On-court results do not match actual intelligence.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
my only problem was Scal
in the 2nd half he made some adjustments with the D and got into Rose a bit about settling for floaters. He made the move to Korver, JJ and Asik when Bogans and Deng were playing like crap.
The best thing I can say is he is pushing to get the best out of Rose. He is instructing him on to what improve on and holding him accountable. And that is something VDN failed at, in my opinion.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 30, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
makes some weird subs
doesnt put noah back in till 5mins left in the 4th, leaves rose out til 8mins left in the 4th. Plays scalabrine way to freaking much, and not enough korver. what i dont get is why did they sign korver if they knew thibs wouldnt like him, him being bad on D is no secret, what did they expect to get with JJ redick.
by ALmighty1080 on Oct 30, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's hope so.
It was pretty obvious.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I love hearing Thibs talk.
He’s get basketball oozing out of his every orifice.
Rose with the 32 PER tonight, 27 overall
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 30, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
Where did you find that? Basketball-reference hasn'
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
hasn't been updated yet.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone from RealGM posted that.
I probably should’ve put an asterisk there.
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 30, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you calculate single game PER?
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He could kill someone..
yeah but he played terrific defense! If thats terrific defense.. I don’t know.
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
I'd rather they beat crap teams by 20+
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I need BaB consensus for Halloween.
Kanye West, zombie doctor or Jesus?
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
zombie doc
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
This wins. Goodnight Bulls fans.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Please add the Kanye glasses
WEAVER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That just means you're wearing a Nixon mask. You are the Luol Deng of costumes.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
NBA league pass is well worth it, $40 a month
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
That's kind of a lot when I have been illegally streaming for 3 years now.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Rose presented Thibs with the game ball.
http://twitter.com/chicagobulls
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
28 points in the 2nd half for Detroit
The 2nd half was basically what the entire game will be like next time they meet in Chicago. I expect the team to be more used to each other… and of course, Boozer back.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
Great defense in the 4th by the bulls
holding the pistons to 9 points………..i guess Rose is trying to lead the league in scoring this year and Noah is trying to do the same in rebounding
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Noah, asked light-heartedly if he would take Thibodeau out to celebrate 1st coaching win: “Does Thibs look like he wants to hang with me?”
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
wait, did he answer light-heartedly?
does Thibs dislike Noah or any of his players?
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
Is Bogans giving the Bulls anything in the starting line-up that JJ couldn't?
Bogans preseason shooting has evaporated
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 30, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions
bogans sucks
he cant handle the ball
hes a horrid passer
his defense is bad in that he sucks at moving his feet
he gets caught in screens quite a bit, and i saw him not even contest a few shots once he got throught a screen
his shooting is just as, if not more, streaky (bad) as kirks was….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Oct 30, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Finally
Rose gets some calls and goes to the freethrow line………it’s good to see him be aggressive and be rewarded by going to the line so many times tonight
Rose shot it 27 times tonight
no ones complaining though :)
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 30, 2010 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
Because he had 39 points.
If he had 28 points BaB would be ready to lynch him.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 30, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
But people were claiming he was selfish and that he was taking stupid shots
last game. I can see complaining about his efficiency, but to say that he was playing selfishly is just to big an insult. If he was playing selfish against OKC, than he was playing selfish against Detroit, because he played almost exactly the same.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 31, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Basically, if he made 4-5 more shots against OKC
no one would have said anything about “selfishness” OR efficiency
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
He took better shots against Detroit and he got to the line more (which is an indication that he was on the attack, not shooting floaters or long Js).
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Selfish doesn't always mean bad and on this team he needs to play like that. At least until Boozer comes back or Deng wakes up from his coma.
Last season people called him out for having no guts because he wouldn’t assert himself in all 4 quarters. Well this is what we are going to get when Rose is “on” the entire game.
And he did play stupid in the 2nd half of the OKC game. He has to learn how to attack better defenses when they make adjustments. Even last night his misses were coming off drives to the paint. They’re essentially assists because all the attention is focused on him and Joakim can just follow the shot for a putback. Can’t do the same with wild jumpers early in the shot clock.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think about 3 of his misses last night result in Noah putbacks for points
Another reason why he should constantly attack the rim since we have an elite offensive rebounder in there to clean up the mess.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
he was 2-10 in the 4th quarter against OKC
1-6 in the paint, 1-4 on the perimeter. People exaggerated how well or poorly he plays based on if he makes or misses shots.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 31, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
His shots in the paint were floaters instead of shots at the rim, though, and those perimeter shots were contested long 2s.
Bad shots.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Well. when that's all that he's contributing
you kind of have to base it off that. If he were dishing out 8 or 9 assists, and/or rebounding the shit out of the ball, people wouldn’t complain as much. The point is, if Rose is gonna be a superstar, he has to contribute, and up to this point in his career, the main way he does that is by scoring points.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I'm not one of those who anoint him MVP or worse than Brandon Jennings after one game.
He’s played like a top 5 player for 6 quarters and like Kirk Hinrich the other two. Also, I have a pet peeve when guards bring the ball up and immediately shoot it.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
did Taj really get 0 rebounds :S
http://www.nba.com/games/20101030/DETCHI/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
also….Scalabrine with the most bench minutes
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
scratch that...2nd most. Korver had 1 more minute than him.
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
Deng needs to step his game up
He is getting paid to much money to be playing this poorly……….everyone has bad games but with Boozer out, he needs to try a little bit harder like Rose……….i know it’s only 2 games but so far his not looking to good
Its not his fault he sucks
I know that sounds weird, but the Bulls made the mistake of basing his contract off one year of production. He is always injured and even when healthy, he is barely mediocre. 2 games or 82 games, I’ve come to expect very little from Deng. I just hope he isn’t the one to screw it up down the stretch….if he’s even here.
The last time I was pissed at Deng because he played this bad
he ended up having a stress fracture in his leg. He’s looked SO bad the first 2 games that I’m seriously concerned about him. He’s not the star that a lot of people thought he would be, but he’s a good player. The Bulls need him to be right, otherwise they’re in some trouble.
does anyone remember when I said the key to this season would be JJ's progression?
no? ok good night
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
Are the Pistons going to be a playoff team?
Can Ben Gordon jumpshots get them to the playoffs? They should be in panic mode right now. They’re 0-3 and they had no buissiness losing tonight after they had a huge lead. They couldn’t put it away.
Also, out of curiosity, didn’t we not sign t-mac because he was saying he had to start? He’s on Detroit’s bench. Not that it’s here nor there, just saying.
LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.
If I was a piston's fan I would be mad as hell that Gordon was starting the third quarter.
When he has a hot hand like he did in the first half you have to ride it.
Their rotations are retarded
WEAVER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
seriously
why isn’t he starting, PERIOD?? Kuester, or whatever his name is, has no clue what he’s doing. I have a feeling he’ll be gone after this season
My thoughts
Again, all these teams on the second of a back to back on the road fade in the 4th, which is exactly what happened here.
I love Noah and Rose. They’re just awesome. Even when Rose was playing bad, I knew he’d come around. You just have confidence in the man now.
Nobody else on our team can be depended on to score besides Rose. Scary.
Can we PLEASE release this Bogans scrub right now. Please tell me a single good move/play/moment he’s had in 2 games.
I’m now officially a Scal fan.
There was a line-up in the first half which I think was Scal, Bogans, Korver, JJ, and someone who’s so bad I’m forgetting that they’re even on our team.
This game was really important to us because it taught us that if we stay in it, anything can happen, which I hope will stay in the back of our heads whenever we’re down.
Oh, and I still effing love Ben Gordon
He’s still one of my favorite players in the league to watch. Nobody can heat up like that guy. God I wish we still had him instead of scrub Deng.
Yeah the Scal hate needs to stop
Yeah, he’s not an athlete. he’s a cerebral player. he’s fine against some opponents. rather see him than Thomas
He’s Jackie Moon
Scal is a joke and even he knows it. Guy has the easiest job in the NBA.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Scal is terrible, the only reason he plays is cuz hes a teachers pet.
there are far more talented players on the bench, JJ deserves those minutes not Scal.
by ALmighty1080 on Oct 30, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know. there aren't many talented people on our bench at all.
Scal’s a lot more athletic than I thought he was.
Gee, i wonder if Rose is going to be an elite player?
Do we still have doubters? Even when he dropped 36 on the Celtics in his first playoff game, people continued to doubt.
Would you trade Rose for Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Westbrook, or Rondo? HELL NO.
Rose is the best guard in the NBA right now
D Will and Paul are light years ahead of Derrick. I love DR but he’s not even the best PG let alone guard overall.
Say something else real silly
if you feel they are better players, that’s fine. But they are not light years ahead of him.
Would you trade for either one?
Paul is light-years ahead
because he’s had statistical seasons on par with, or surpassing Magic Johnson
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 30, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
That's great
We’ll see how he does now that his team is back in the middle of the pack.
Rose has absolutely no help at the 2 or 3.
When healthy Paul is impossible to slow down. So is Derrick.
statistical seasons on par with magic and with absolute shit surrounding him
thats how good cp3 is.
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
dwill and paul are light years ahead of rose...
dont kid yourself. i would easily trade rose for either
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
GET TFO Of here
They are not way btter than Rose
Unless you're a child there is no way in hell you should hold this opinion.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Those guys are not "light years"
better than Rose. If you want to say there better, fine. But “light years”? They aren’t.
Yeah but it worked!
Paul is a better passer and shooter and can score 20+
Deron is a way better shooter, passer and defender and can score 20+
Derrick has the ability to be more dominant as far as scoring and he is faster, as far as true production and efficiency, D Will and CP3 are much better.
By years end, Derrick may be the superior rebounder if he keeps it up.
Derrick is great but if you really think he’s on those two guys’ levels you need psychotropic drugs.
roses athleticism gives him high potential
but yea, i dont think he will ever have the magnificent feel of cp3. I think he can surpass williams though, but it will take him time to get the same maturity/leadership/decision making. still i can see rose being a top 5 not just a top 10, and thats pretty damn good in-itself. I watched walls highlights from his “big” game last night, and i gotta say, he is nowhere the athlete rose is. I think rose is going to go down at the very least, the most athletic pg ever.
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
You are the silly one. Both of them can score as much as Rose, maybe Rose is more athletic and flashy but both of them are much superior in almost every aspect of the game
^^This
Rose is about as pretty a basketball player as their is to watch in the league, and I think that gets him a lot of the extra love. But as far as stats, and actual production goes, Derrick is not on the same level as Williams and Paul. When you say “Light years”, I agree when it comes to Paul, because he’s a lot better (when healthy), but I don’t think I would phrase it the same way with Williams. Derrick can reach his level. He won’t be as good a passer (same with Rondo), but he can make up for it in other ways. I’d personally still like to see Rose get his assists up to around 8, at least. Him averaging 6 is getting pretty old. He’s way too talented.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank you chicago
I saw the beginning part of the fourth quarter and we were trailing by 11 . I told myself that we would come back and win. Lo and behold we won by 11. I know this is one game against a bad team at home but I’m elated about this. D rose is the fuckin man, I really hopes he wins a title with us. I could say more but I’m gonna enjoy the weekend. Go bulls!
48 minutes of intensity
by dsenchi on Oct 30, 2010 11:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
And I'm all for Going with James Pippen
Except when he barrels over someone he will revert to Jimmy Johns
Personally I don't know either
But like I said, its an interesting look. After how JJ played tonight and how valuable Taj with Boozer out, I don’t know. I think its funny though that Denver’s win total went up +13 though.
some thoughts. i haven't read anything that you ppl have wrote. I watched the game on record
1. play jj. simple.
2. don’t play scal
3. rose is NOT a superstar. yes 39 is amazing but… no.
king said something that really stuck out to me. " that’s what superstars do, get to the rim", after rose drew a foul. ( not sure if that’s what he said) his quote really does say it all. Rose does NOT draw fouls.
4. Noah is a BEAST. AND WILL LEAD THE LEAGUE IN REBOUNDING.
5. 50 wins is a stretch.
6. defense is not as good as we thought it would be.
He had 13 FTA today, and dropped 39 on superstar-like efficiency, sooo...
not sure how you came to the conclusion that he’s not going to be a superstar based on THIS game
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 30, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
so.....
let’s take one game and say he does draw fouls over the last 3 years. yea.. lets do that and name him a superstar. … yes…. that’s it.
A bunch of periods doesn't make your point any more valid
The fact that you’re using this game as evidence that he doesn’t do something is pretty laughable.
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 30, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
GTFU, Rose is a superstar and will always be one no matter how much you dont want him to be
by ALmighty1080 on Oct 30, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Defense
Was pretty incredible in the 2nd half. True we need 48 minutes, but also true BG had a BG half in the first half, and there’s little a team can do to stop BG when he’s doing his thing like that, but hope he stops/slows or forces.
Of course Kuester then decided to let him sit to start the 3rd qtr and wait to put him in, to help ice him further.
If they had a passing PG, BG would be that much better.
And regardless of whether or not Rose is a true MVP candidate, he’s already a proven superstar, today was one of those games.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
"rose is NOT a superstar. yes 39 is amazing but… no."
I guess people around here won’t be happy until Rose sticks his tongue out on every shot and averages a triple double for the season. Rose is the very definition of a Superstar in this league. A PG that comes out of college after one season. Comes out and wins ROY. The next season he loses his team’s leading scorer and goes on to makes the All-star team and the playoffs both years in the league, and then wins a medal over the summer. Right now he’s playing with the worst offensive roster he’s ever had and currently leads the league in scoring. You guys getting a hard on over free throw attempts and scoring efficiency need to give it a rest…Seriously.
Yeah but it worked!
right on Dils
Plus he is now going to add a decent three point stroke.
And he is going to put teams away at the end of games.
Good night. drive home safely.
@LuolDeng9 Tough shooting game for me tonight but great team effort and win. Love my team they had my back tonight.
It’s Derrick’s team.
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
fuck you deng, its not your fucking team. you are delusional
Kyle Korver's jumpshot is $$$
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 30, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I highly doubt he meant anything by it.
He does play on the fucking team, therefore, it is his team. Just as it is Taj’s team, or Noah’s. Or even Scalbrine’s team.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
by Dash2112 on Oct 30, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If I played on my HS BB team
I would refer to it as my team, because I play on the team. I would even be near the best player. In fact, I would be lucky to see minutes.
It would be different if he wrote ‘Love MY team tonight.’
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
I can't sense sarcasm/jokes over the net.
My bad man. Also, I was more responding to Juan dela Cruz.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
God dammit, I can't finish my thoughts in one post.
in the first post*
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
It IS his team on account that he plays on it
Or is the family you are a part of not your family and just your dads?
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 31, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
he stated like HE was THE MAN.
“They had my back” tsk tsk, stupid ass deng.
Kyle Korver's jumpshot is $$$
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 31, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice win. Another solid effort by Joakim and Derrick.
I can see Jo making the all star team this season if he keeps this up, and seriously, we have got to have Booz back, ASAP.
Kyle Korver's jumpshot is $$$
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 30, 2010 11:51 PM CDT reply actions
from realgm.. geniusness
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by SoulEater7 on Oct 30, 2010 11:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Boozer does not even belong in the picture. Put Thibs up there.
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Why'd they randomly throw Deng in as a ghost?
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 30, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
omg
because he disappears duh!
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
by SoulEater7 on Oct 30, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
They should have put him in
fully then cut out 25% (for the patented Deng 4th qtr disappearance).
Course that presumes he figures out of this 2 game rut.
I mean his PER is Chris Bosh worthy right now (12.6 vs 12.7).
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
happy halloween! ga-deng!
Kyle Korver's jumpshot is $$$
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 31, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
this game basically showed us that we dont need Luol Deng
its time to shop him heavily
Yea, because teams love taking our unwanted parts!
(Plus, we do need him, if we want to beat teams better than the Pistons. Which is pretty much everyone on the schedule from now until Boozer comes back)
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought the Swirsky interviews with Rose and Noah were interesting.
Noah, in particular, seemed to be making it a point to mention how well JJ did. Even Rose made the point that “only a couple” (paraphrasing) players at half time knew they would/could come back to win the game. James Johnson said that during half time it was Rose and Noah telling everyone that could come back and win.
Anyway, long story short, it makes me wonder about the players’ (or some of them at least) sentiment toward Deng’s leadership role on the team. I know I’m probably over analyzing it, but whatever.
I thought the part about Thibs telling JJ he wouldn't be part of the rotation was interesting.
opps. Someone made a mistake. Probably cost the a win in OKC.
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
ya kinda seems like they are already getting annoyed by Thibs
not play JJ, overplaying Scal.
by ALmighty1080 on Oct 31, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah thats a good point.. makes you wonder..
I noticed a few times Rose waving off Thibs at the end of the game but it’s hard to tell from TV. They seem to try and run plays and then proceed to tell each other where to go. I’m sure they all need to adjust to each other. I thought Thibs seemed a little bummed out after the win. He’s body language was just was weird for someone who just won his first NBA game as a coach. It seemed like the first few games of the preseason everyone was listening to him and they showed a shot in the 4th quarter where most the guys gave him the VDN treatment. Maybe I’m just seeing things.
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
I would get pissed to if Scalabrine kept playing
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
JJ would have stopped Rose from taking so many terrible shots?
TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Jimmy Johns has always been talented. Its justa matter of harnessing it and making it effective night in and night out
If he improves, then we need to trade deng for a nice shooting guard come febuary
Kyle Korver's jumpshot is $$$
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 31, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
apparently deng is still the garbage that he is, all the talk of him being happy
in the new system hasnt really translated into an improvement on the court in the REGULAR SEASON
Kyle Korver's jumpshot is $$$
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 31, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
yup its still pretty much same old same old
its Rose and Noah and nobody.
Kyle Korver's jumpshot is $$$
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 31, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think there is a power struggle between Rose and Thibs. Not a big deal.
You just know Thibs wants his DNA all over this team. He wanted to over coach. Typical rookie coach.
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
Hmmm I dont know, Thibs is a fiery guy
I hope he wont allienate his team like Skiles did. There should be a balance of strictness and leeway. I mean be strict but dont ride the guy too much, its bad.
Kyle Korver's jumpshot is $$$
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 31, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah thats something I was worried about but..
you heard so many good things about him from everyone. But after two real games and in the heat of the moment things can get pushed to the side and then it’s on the players to win. I think what makes a great NBA coach is more than being a great strategist you kinda have to be like a politician and a lawyer and just a leader of men. Sometimes you just gotta let the players play. That what made PJ so great. He doesn’t force it.
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
Thibs is a different kind of fiery though
Skiles is way more of a cock to guys, showing them up, talking shit to the media etc. I don’t think that THibs is like that, he’s just a guy that’s really gonna harp on you a lot. Probably not a big deal. He just has to get this rotation figured out, because this shit is getting ridic. That one lineup he had with Scal, Watson, Bogans, Asik, and whoever else was just wrong on so many levels
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions
"Thibs wants his DNA all over this team."
There had to be a better way to phrase that.
As for Rose and Thibs, I think you’re making too much of it. I think in the Swirsky interview on .com, Rose said he loved Thibs. Plus I don’t think Rose is the type to be in a “power struggle”. I think you are right a little bit though, I don’t think the players are too happy with the way things have shaped up so far with the rotation.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not saying it's major.
It’s like a feeling out process like Thibs wants to run plays and Derrick wants to just do his thing. Like I said they just have to get a feel for each other. They need to touch.
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
i have a feeling they both want to run plays
but derrick is getting annoyed of everyone looking lost on offense and not knowing where to be and so he wants to just do his thing but thibs is probably pushing him to stick to the gameplan
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
I'd like to see CJ get some more minutes at the two with Derrick
especially when we’re playing against a smaller two, or a non scorer on the other team. I think that would alleviate some of the ball handling pressure off him, and let him do his thing a little more. I think he would hit some shots
Superteams suck.
I'd like to see JJ getting some minutes at the 2, maybe even starting. We need more creators. Bogans kills the offense out there.
Plus, JJ could take 10-15 of Scal’s minutes and Asik could take the last 5-10. I don’t want to see Scal playing anymore. He is horrible.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Can't rec this enough.
Skinny JJ can easily play the 2 with his athleticism. He brings so much more to the table than Bogans does, it’s ridiculous.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Yea, that would be great, I just don't have a lot of confidence that he can guard a lot of twos
but I guess it’s worth a shot
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure this was mentioned elsewhere
but after rewatching parts of this game, the thing that really stuck out to me, was all the confusion on offense. It really seemed like no one knew where to be, or what to do. Even when Rose was directing guys, there was no recognition. Not sure what’s up with that, but they really have to figure it out
Superteams suck.
maybe Vinny was right and our players really are dumb.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
When did Vinny say that?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
He claimed early on that his simplistic offense was a result of the players having trouble with more complicated sets
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
a result of the (coach) having trouble with more complicated sets
fixed
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by blackoutsox on Oct 31, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Luol, BG, Kirk, Tyrus had no issue with Skiles' drive and kick.
And if Rose is so stupid then why didn’t the man genius Vinny just start Kirk all along?
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Basketball-reference updated their stats:
Rose’s PER through the first two games: 28 (!)
Noah’s PER: 24.7(!)
Jimmy John’s PER from last night: 34.4(!!!!)
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 9:48 AM CDT reply actions
28 PER...mmmmmmmmm yeah
Both Rose and Noah can definitely put up 20+ this year. Noah has been absolutely killing it on the glass…I mean I guess Boozer’s return could impact that a bit, but I don’t feel that he’s doing anything out of the ordinary. I’d love to see him lead the league in rebounding.
And honestly I don’t feel like Derrick has really shot as well as he’s capable of, yet he’s still been ridiculously good. This is pretty exciting. It’s too bad Boozer had to get injured and drain all hope from the first month of the season.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Yea, now I'm really pissed at Boozer
I feel like he really threw everything off.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Derrick's currently leading the league in USG% at an eye popping 44.4%.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I feel bad for him.
This roster right now minus Boozer is the worst offensive talent he’s had around him yet. It’s embarrassing.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy how poor the offensive talent around him is.
They have no other shot creators, unlike years past where at least Salmons and Gordon were there.
No other ball-handlers or penetrators, and we’ve swapped Bradass on offense for Asik, Thomas, and Scal. And as much as I like Asik, his offense is way off from Brad’s.
Plus Deng has played worse than I’ve ever seen him play on offense.
Hopefully Deng gets it together soon and then they can tread water until Boozer makes his return.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point about Brad
I think we may have undervalued his contributions as a creator of offense. The ability the throw the ball in to him, and have guys cutting and slashing was a nice thing when we were struggling.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
We really need to start using Noah more in this capacity
Get Deng and Brewer slashing off of him to get some easy buckets and maybe get those guys some confidence, since they’ve both been abysmal.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
by Illini15 on Oct 31, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Haha, check out number two on this list. I laughed heartily when I saw it this morning.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Almost 18 points higher than LeRod!
Time to max-contract this guy! X-D
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Oct 31, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Also, check out Devin Harris
I forgot who I was arguing with (Sin?), but when Harris is healthy, he’s definitely an elite PG.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
You were arguing with me, and the point you make is moot.
It’s been two games, maybe three, and Harris has never been an elite point guard. He’s had one or two pretty solid seasons, but elite? Come on.
Ok?
Well I think you put guys like Jennings on your list, and he hasn’t even had one good season. Harris had a PER of almost 22 a couple years ago. Which was his first year as the main guy. He was hurt last year. I think he’s easily top 10, which is what we were discussing I believe. If he stays healthy this year, I think he’ll prove that out.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I put Jennings on my list because I don't think Harris is that good, stats be damned.
I don’t think too highly of players who make a large portion of their living going to the line. I think Jennings has more raw skills than Harris and is a better passer, and he has that killer personality as well. From what I’ve seen of both, I think Jennings brings more to the table and is the better PG now and in the future.
Harris isn’t bad, but each time I watch him play I come away un-impressed. No way he’s an elite PG, IMO. Elite means he’s on the same level as Rose, Paul and Williams. There are plenty of PG’s I’d take before Harris.
I never said he was in the Paul, Williams class
but I think he’s definitely in the next tier. Just like how I wouldn’t lump Rose in with Paul and Williams just yet. But if you’re gonna grade the player off of things like personality, and games that you’ve watched, there’s really nothing I can say, except that I disagree
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I definitely think that (on-court) personality matters,
not that much, but it does. A killer mentality can go a long way.
If you wouldn’t lump Rose in with Paul and Williams, then logic dictates that you believe that he and Rose are on the same level, as you said Harris is def in the next tier, unless you believe that Rose is on the third tier. I’d disagree vehemently, as I think Rose is an entirely different stratosphere than Harris, who I’d rank with Tony Parker, Aaron Brooks, Steph Curry and the like.
Another "stratosphere"?
I don’t see how that’s even possible considering Harris had a season two years ago that was much better than anything Rose has had to date. That being said, I would take Rose over Harris in a heartbeat just because of age and health concerns. I just think you’re severely underrating Harris. He’s really good when he’s healthy, and if he’s healthy this year, you’ll see that.
As for “on court” personality, I actually agree, I think it matters very much. It was one of the criticisms I levied against Rose. He plays (played) far too timid in other areas of the court besides offense, and got way too down on himself when he made mistakes.
I don’t see what’s wrong with Harris’ personality. Dude gets after it, and is a competitor. Might not be as much of a showman as Jennings, but he’s also been way better. Jennings might have the attitude, but his play has not backed it up. He’s a little shrimp, that occasionally gets hot with his jumper. I’m not impressed.
I’d put Harris ahead of Jennings, Brooks, Curry, and those types. As of today, Harris is in Rose’s class, one tier below Paul and Williams, but I think Rose will take the leap into the Williams, Paul tier (unless Paul totally reverts to form, in which case, he’s his own tier all together. The “Automatic Hall of Fame” tier)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, another stratosphere.
Rose is on his way to being a top shelf player, no just PG, in this league. How many guys would you rather have than Rose in this league? The only guys I’d even consider are Lebron, Wade, Howard, Dirk, CP3, Durant, DWill, Kobe and possibly Melo and Roy.
Guys I’d take over Harris: All those guys, as well as Pierce, Rondo, Lopez, Amare, Jamison, Iggy, Rose, Noah, Granger, Jennings, Bogut, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Horford, Wallace, Bosh, Wall, Dirk, Brooks, Martin, Scola, Gay, West, Duncan, Ginobili, Billups, Love, Westbrook, Jefferson, Lee, Griffin, Baron, Gasol 2x, Nash, Tyreke, Cousins, probably a few others.
I just don’t think too much of Harris, but we can agree to disagree.
When Derrick gets to the line like he did last night (10 FTA or more), he's basically impossible to stop. He becomes a 30+ point scorer.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=3bUl5
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 10:36 AM CDT reply actions
...and when he's hitting threes.
If he does both of those things, that’s how he will become a top-shelf superstar.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Yea, I just can't understand how he hasn't figured out how to draw contact
I would think that a guy THAT talented would have no issue figuring it out. It’s very odd. It really pisses me off too. Because you watch a guy like Westbrook, and you can see that he’s not as good as Rose, but because he’s mastering the art of running into people and flailing, he’s statistically doing as well, or better. That’s one thing I hate about the NBA, it rewards that bullshit. Think about it, if there was no such thing as a free throw, would Derrick be the best scorer in the league? In that situation, I would have more confidence in him taking a high volume of shots, and hitting a high percentage, than just about anyone in the league. Can anyone think of someone better?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Honestly
Derrick is probably the most offensively gifted scorer in the NBA behind only LeBron, Wade, Durant, and Kobe. I mean, seriously, who hits a more ridiculous variety of shots than Rose does? He has everything. He’s unbelievable at reverse layups, getting off his own shot, floaters, runners…he literally has every shot in the book. He’s deadly from mid-range and now he’s hitting threes. If he could someone learn to artistically crash into people instead of avoiding contact to go for a crazy finish at the rim that only he can pull off, he’ll be in the elite category of NBA players. It sucks that crashing into people is how you be efficient, but once he can break his habit of going for the near-impossible finish, he can be a legit top-10 player in the league. Maybe top 7-8. He’s that good when talking about pure talent and offensive skills.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
I agree, he just needs to refine certain aspects of his game
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
It kinda sucks that there's so many good pg's in the league right now
When I guy like Wall can walk into an NBA game and score 28, and dish out 9 dimes, while getting to the line and showing a nice jumper, it sort of minimizes Derrick’s efforts. It feels like every team in the league has a great, young pg.
Superteams suck.
Wall looked terrible in his debut, though. He's going to be up and down this year.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea, but I think that was more the Dwight Howard factor
How many good games has Rose had against Orlando? I think that’s the worst possible matchup for scoring pg’s. When I saw that was who he had or his first National TV game I felt bad for him. I wouldn’t be surprised if last night is the norm
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Wall will regularly drop 28 and 9. He's good, but he's not THAT good. Not yet, anyway.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I watched every one of his college games last yaer
He’ll probably have a shit ton of high-turnover games, and his shot is erratic. I could definitely see that happening every 3 or so games though. He’s incredible at getting to the rim, especially in transition.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
He and Rose had nearly identical college numbers. I'd expect him to put up similar numbers to what Rose did, except maybe
a few more points because he doesn’t have a BG-level score to share shots with as a rookie.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
That's true. I forgot about Gil. I don't think he'll be taking as many shots as BG did, though.
I imagine Hinrich will get a lot of PT with Wall because he doesn’t need or want a lot of shots.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Flip went with a 3-guard starting lineup this preseason
so I’m interested to see what he does when Arenas is back
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Not 28, but I think he'll be around 19-20 ppg, and 8-9 apg
Especially on that team, where he’s got the green light
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it's basically that
all the guys who in past times would have been SGs (Rose, Wall, Westbrook, Evans) have all coming up playing AAU ball as the primary ballhandler, and in turn, have morphed into “PGs.” That has had a pretty big effect on the game.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Lots and lots of guys wanting to be Iverson. Kind of like how there was a generation of guys who all wanted to be Jordan.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
The East PG battles for years to come will be ridiculous
Rondo, Rose, Wall, Jennings, Harris, Collison…quite an impressive crop.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
It's one of the best times ever to be a basketball fan. Seriously.
You know what I’m really pissed off about, though. We’re going to lose a year of Derrick Rose’s early-prime years to a freaking lockout. We’re going to lose a year of Kobe, Duncan, Nash, and Manu’s twilight years. A year of Chris Paul, LeBron, and Bosh’s primes. A year off of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen riding out for one more run. It just sucks.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe, but if you're a player that minutes played is a more important than age (like I am)
than it’s not too big a deal.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Age and minutes played both matter and those guys at the end of their careers, we won't get that year of ball back from them.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea, guys like Shaq are definitely affected
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
But I doubt there's a lockout anyway
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Really? It's being treated more or less like a foregone conclusion amongst NBA writers.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
That means next to nothing
They’re just reporting all of the tough talk between the two parties. Which is normally the case right around now. Once push comes to shove, I’m sure they’ll figure things out. The media loves reporting stuff like this, it gives them a storyline, even though they know that it will change
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
It could also mean a shortened season
Instead of a full missed year
Like the last one 12 years ago
I agree, which is why I'm trying not to think about it right now.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Collison has been underwhelming so far
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Btw, after two more Tweets praising Rose last night:
RicBucher Ric Bucher
I get that the Heat are must-see TV. So are the Bulls. Check that: so is DRose. Anyone who saw him lead comeback over Det will co-sign.
RicBucher Ric Bucher
And while DRose’s 39-6-7 sounds impressive, it doesn’t capture what he did. It’s when he did what he did + how many Chi missteps he erased.
I’m convinced that Ric Bucher is a BaB’er. My early favorite is Stacey_is_King. Reveal yourself Ric!
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Bucher has always been very, very high on Derrick Rose.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I mean
You remember when he was saying he’s “surprised” that Buls fans wanted Lebron or Wade when we already had our MVP candidate in Rose? He’s more of a Rose fan than most people that post here
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he's a front office consultant for the Bulls
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
He's obsessed with Rose for some reason. Fine by me.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
It's really digusting to think that a point guard (!!)
just put up 39/6/7 when he’s the only offensive option on the team. How many guys in the league are even capable of that type of performance?
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Chris Paul and Derrick Rose. That's pretty much the list. Deron Williams has never been the only option on his team, so it's tough to say
whether he could do it. He’s always had a fair number of weapons.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
And games like this last night
are why I generally tend to feel Derrick’s “inefficiency” and advanced stats actually underrate him. And is why I have a hard time buying people saying he’s overrated by the general public. Not many guys can do what he does on nights like this. It’s hard to quantify, but the elite skill/mentality/ability to completely dominate a game offensively like that is very rare in the NBA, and Derrick is one of the few guys that has “it.” Whatever “it” may be. Not trying to sound like lexidiamonds and his “dog” stuff, but you know what I mean. Which is why I have a hard time agreeing with people who say Rondo is better. Sure, he’s a better rebounder, passer, and defender, but he can’t utterly dominate a team on the offensive side of the ball like Derrick does. And in today’s NBA, that’s incredibly valuable and the importance can’t be overstated.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Rondo's a better passer by a good stretch, but he's also in the fortunate position of running an offense that he's had in place
since he was a rookie and he’s got Hall of Famers at literally every position in his starting lineup with him. Ray Allen, Pierce, KG, and Shaq. It’s an embarassment of riches for a point guard of his ability.
The two things that he does better than Derrick that are independent of his teammates are his defense and his rebounding. Derrick’s defense is getting a lot better, though. He’ll never be as dominant on D as Rondo, but he can make up the gap enough that it doesn’t matter. Derrick’s rebounding should be a lot better given his athletic gifts, though.
If you swapped Derrick and Rondo, I think the Celtics get slightly better or stay the same, while the Bulls would fall off a cliff.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
I’ve been really encouraged by Derrick’s D lately. And it’s also showing up in the box score (2 steals and 2 blocks last night). He keeps that up, and damn, his value shoots through the roof.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
His D on Westbrook wasn't so great because he fouled so much, but last night he was good.I also thought he did a pretty good job
of keeping Westbrook in front of him, but he just got caught reaching a lot.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
to be honest though I’m glad to see him actually reaching for steals. Last two years he didn’t do shit on that end. He never even attempted to get steals or even sat in a defensive stance. He’s made HUGE strides, so I’ll credit both Coach K and Thibs for that.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Yeah, he's just got to be smarter about when he's reaching. Westbrook really torched him and it was mostly because
he got to the line so much.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I really don't like that I have to sometimes hate Westbrook because of his "rivalry" with Rose
because he’s awesome and I love to watch him play.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Before the Bulls won the lottery in that draft and before he moved up draft boards, Westbrook was my favorite
player in that draft. He’s so fun to watch and so explosive. I don’t hate him, I just wish Derrick would learn from him.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Same here. I loved him in college.
And I think it’s pretty cool they work out together all the time. Clearly they’re real friends and not the contrived bullshit that we often see with players in the league.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Yea, I agree
Although Westbrook does make it difficult at times with all the histrionics. All the screaming and chest bumping after shots and dunks get a little tiresome. Or maybe I’m just spoiled with Rose. After all, Noah does the same shit, and we love him for it
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I like Westbrook's emotion. He's always been a fiery guy so it makes sense.
On the other hand Durant just looks like a weirdo because he’s such a beanpole.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea, I guess it just bugged me cause it was against us
Every time he screamed and pounded his chest I wanted to throw my tv out the window
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
lol, yea I was thinking that
We do love Noah basically for the same thing
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
And everyone hates Noah but Bulls and UF fans.
Though he might have gotten some supporters with all the Cleveland bashing.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think smart fans hate him,
but realize that he’s good for the game. Kinda like Garnett. Although his barking and histrionics gets tired, in the end it’s good for basketball to have guys like that. You don’t want a bunch of Vince Carter style zombies in the league
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Rondos's freakishly long arms and huge hands are what make him a good rebounder
Not sure Derrick has the tools to better than him in that department.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe not better than Rondo, but his rebounding could be a lot better given his athleticism.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
He skied for that one. Rondo rarely skies, though. He usually sneaks in at the ground level and swipes the board away from an unsuspecting big.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That's one thing about Wall
that I’m not sure about. I know he’ll be a good passer, but I wonder about his ability to score in a half court offense. It looks to me like that is one area that he will have a little trouble.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
He had problems with it at Kentucky. He's incredible in the open court, but his instincts in the half court are not good (hence the turnovers).
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he was pretty lost in the half court at UK
and it’s a big reason why they lost to WVU in the Elite 8. They slowed the game down and he struggled to get to the rim in the half court. He would settle for jumpers and be forced into turnovers.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
He doesn't have nearly the same craftiness off the dribble
or explosive first step as Derrick. That’s the thing that makes Rose so incredible. His handles, and assorted moves with the ball are just silly. Wall doesn’t have that
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Watching Rose split those double teams last night with regularity was a thing of beauty
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Right. Wall is pretty much a straight line runner and his handles aren't as good. His jumper is a little better than Derrick's
was at the same age.
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Not many guys are forced to be their teams primary scorer and distributor
those are Lebron/Wade type numbers, except they won’t have to do that anymore. It takes a lot of talent to be able to handle that load, get another good player like that with Rose and I think his efficiency goes through the roof. He knows how to pick his spots, he just never gets the chance with this team.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 31, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Again.
Fuck Boozer! Why’d he have to trip over a bag!
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
"Trip over a bag"
*cough*punch a wall*cough*
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by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
His ex-wife's name is wall?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
The thing to watch for against Portland
will be how Rose adjusts his game. Portland will not allow him to slice up their offense like he did against Detroit. They’ll eventually wall him off like OKC did. So it will be on him to force the action, and get free throws, and/or hit some outside shots. Things are gonn get tougher and tougher on him if his teammates continue to play like ass (minus Noah)
Superteams suck.
The Blazers have a pretty porous defense, despite defensive talent like Batum and Camby. I think Rose should be able to torch Andre Miller again.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea, but i think they have a solid scheme
based on past performance. Plus some pretty good size at the rim, which is the one thing that does slow Rose down. Miller is inconsequential. Name me one point guard that can even bother Rose a little. Rondo’s considered the best defender in the league, and I don’t think Rose minds playing him at all
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Rose usually torches Rondo
It’s the same reason why I can’t fault Rose for not being able to guard a guy like Westbrook. It’s just really not feasable to stop some of these guys.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
They've had the same scheme for years with Nate McMillan and every year they are about average on D.
I think Rose will be fine. It’s just a matter of if the other guys get going. The Bulls, despite Derrick’s heroics, have put up a 98.5 ORtg so far, which would have been the worst in the league last year.
Kyle Korver should be the starting SG for the 2010-11 Chicago Bulls.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, Deng has got to get it going and start contributing meaningfully in some of these games.
Usually, Deng is good for a qaurter or two and then disappears. LOL!!!! Not for the whole game like he was last night.
Drafting Joakim Noah 3rd overall in my fantasy draft has been awesome.
Snagged Derrick in the 5th round too (12 players). If only Deng would start contributing (especially on some 3s) my fantasy Bulls core would be dominating
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by WalmartSecurity on Oct 31, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions
Couldn't watch the game but after reading thru these comments ...
Classic BaB thread shit
Some of yall already asking for JJ to start?
Hilarious. Deng has a couple bad games and everyone thinks he’s easily replaceable. Bosh also had a couple off games adjusting to a new system after a nice preseason. Is he crap as well? Not comparing Deng to Bosh in that sense but just saying not to dismiss years of productivity based on two off games starting out a new season.
Trust meh, I’d love for JJ to finally get it as well but my reasons are different. I just want him to look somewhat attractable in future trade offers so I’m happy to see the kid do well.
And if not, it’s good to see him being valuable to the team if Deng does have his bad nights but let’s not jump the gun.
As for Rose, I can’t wait to watch my dvd today. No one should ever trip that he’s shooting so much. When you’re as gifted a scorer as he is, you should be trying to shoot as much as possible, especially with the limited options we have. I think that’s what he learnt in Turkey. He saw KD doing it for the benefit of USA even tho he didn’t feel comfortable, but that’s what its gonna take for this team to win.
As for Joakim, god bless him and Paxson for making the the smartest draft choice the Bulls made since drafting the Pink Panther.
Oh and let’s start looking at PER’s about a month into the season rather than after the teams first win.
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by Option27 on Oct 31, 2010 2:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
lol Option,
sometimes I feel like you’re the only BaBer I agree with.
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by dantheman3k on Oct 31, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
To be our starting SF?
The guy is an above average defender and had a great preseason under Thibs new system, yet he has a couple off nights (shooting wise) and people are screaming for JJ to start, so gross.
And by the way, I actually watched the game last night and all the JJ praise is a bit exaggerated. Yeah, he hustled and played his ass off. Hit a big 3 and had a nice put-back dunk. But he was still awfully wild out there. Looked lost a lot of the time on the court. He got a lot of hustle stats, but he’s still a lost kid out there
I'm not saying to bench Deng.
I want him to play better and increase his trade value. But then there will always be a Deng supporter who won’t want him traded because he’s better than Melo argument. Thats why I called my post the Deng Dilemma. Because.. it’s kind of a touch issue right now. Maybe the rumors are getting to him again I don’t know. I would be fine if he played like he did in the preseason but so far he hasn’t and thats not helping the Bulls either way.
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
If the rumors were getting to him, he woulda had a terrible preseason considering that's when most of the rumors were being talked about
I just think he had a couple of off games, simple. Of course I’d rather have Melo playing SF but Deng will be fine once things settle down. He’s not injured so he’ll bounce back
few comments:
1) i think smurf might have said this already, but why should JJ replace deng when he can replace the bulls’ platoon of shaky SGs?
2) we need to find an ice floe for neil and scal.
3) i personally love how iverson rose is taking 25-30 shots a night. he should keep this up at least until boozer gets here. let rose and noah high five each other, chase various statistical pinnacles, basically run the team, and try to convince some of these other clowns that it in indeed possible to beat a dreadful team on your own court. those two are invaluable.
4) so in preseason thibs had the seriously great idea of using noah as a second playmaker in the high post since he has only 1 ball handler. what happeed to that? Jbj noted this, but the bulls looked really disorganized. thats on thibs.
5) obviously this could change, but between preseason and these first 2 games, im starting to see more of a “star motor” from derrick. he seems to be putting himself in a better position to make things happen on both ends, and over the course of a whole season thats going to pay off big time.
6) rose/JJ/deng/noah/asik need to play a lot. they can run the “rose takes 2-4 defenders with him and puts up a shot which he either makes, or he misses and his teammates crash the glass and score or get fouled” offense which looks like the best bet until boozer comes here or the other guys make shots.
"If I was to answer that question honestly, I would have to lie to you."
- Isiah Thomas, when asked if any teams were interested in trading for Shandon Anderson
That's a HUGE lineup (Rose/JJ/Deng/Noah/Asik). I like it. I might start running with that on 2k11.
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by Sir Buckets on Oct 31, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
4 on 5 then?
"If I was to answer that question honestly, I would have to lie to you."
- Isiah Thomas, when asked if any teams were interested in trading for Shandon Anderson
Ok Matt
is the ‘z’ thing down? I haven’t been able to scroll through the posts for a week or so with the z function to find the latest comments?
I figured perhaps because this file was big it was this thread, but I went to some small ones and it’s the same thing. It’s not working here or at my home cpu.
Thx.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
Same thing for me too.
Mine just started this weekend though.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
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