Bulls reach contract agreement w/ Noah
[From the FanShots. Yay! Credit to the Bulls for getting this done. If the timing was to take some sting out of the Boozer news, it worked. -ed.]
5 years, ~$60 million, per Sam. Some much needed good news after the Boozer ordeal. Seems like a fair price to me.
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Yay for good news...
i’ve been bummed ALL day since the Boozer news. I’m happy with the contract as well after hearing the 5 year 70 mil rumors
at least something good happened today
and for the contract i think most of us were hoping for. yay!!!
Thank god.
I was feeling rather depressed.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
Say goodbye to the trade rumors for Noah...
He is definitely not going to Denver for ’Melo!!!
Can't wait to see Boozer and Rose running pick and roll...err...
after the boozer injury i dont think the trade was going to happen anyways
maybe thats why the bulls completed the extension….OR, maybe noah realized that he should sign the extension before he gets injured.
I raised the point in the Boozer thread...
whether Boozer’s injury would impact Noah’s contract negotiation. It looks like it may have.
But wouldn't his injury be more likely for the FO
to go with Noah’s original request, instead of him lowering it?
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 3, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah - K_yle33 might be on the right track in the comment above.
Noah may have been motivated to accept the Bulls offer after Boozer’s injury. Or, they could have absolutely nothing to do with one another.
KC:
The exact amount of the extension is unknown but believed to be in the $11 million range annually. Incentives can take the deal higher, and a source said the inclusion of these incentives represented the breakthrough in negotiations.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/10/bulls-noah-near-contract-extension.html
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
interesting that the incentives pushed it
i was saying how they should include incentives if he could stay healthy. i wonder what other types of incentives they put into the contract.
no smoking = 70 mil
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
by sin on Oct 3, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Would think games or minutes played
Would have to be a big part of it. I imagine there is an all-star bonus / playoff bonus of some sort too, but I think they are more worried about him playing at all than playing at an all-star level.
I think most players have the other bonuses once you get to the bigger contracts, so I don’t think those would have been the hang up.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 4, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
How typical are incentives in player contracts?
Obviously, the Memphis and Xavier Henry situation comes to mind, and I think I remember Nate Robinson getting a “salary bonus” if his team made the players (or something like that). I just wonder if this is common.
Most contracts have some kind of performance clause or rewards based on milestones.
And I think most teams award playoff bonuses.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah most incentives are either tied to winning or staying healthy
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
by sin on Oct 3, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweetney also failed his weight clause, that's more for like guaranteeing contracts
i.e. Bill Walker on the Knicks had a weight clause on his contract. Eddy Curry … should’ve had a weight clause on his contract [oh well!].
But yeah, what Ozzie said, otherwise.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Ha! He had a heart arrythmia that is potentially fatal. They didn't even have an out if he got sick again.
I doubt they were willing to get a weight clause. Not to mention that it’s hard to put in the clause they need: the effort clause.
Well, in a way a weight clause is an effort clause, since you need to work to get thin. :P
But yeah. Eddy Curry … just a lot of bad decisions there.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Not to mention we just resigned the guy we traded Curry for.
Pretty much assuring that Isiah has to watch his failure. Not that that is hard to find.
well poop
But hey at least its not 70 mil. Good timing for this news. If this happened any other day I might be slightly disappointed but with retard boozer killing the day this is definitely great news.
I’m ready for the season. What a bullshit summer.
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
Why would you have been disappointed?
How are you affected by a how much Noah gets paid?
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Oct 3, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
you obviously havent been reading around if you dont know what dream this signing kills
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
by sin on Oct 3, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just let it go.
There was never any indication from the team that they were really interested in Carmelo. At this point just listen to Sam Smith; if he says it isn’t happening, it just isn’t.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Oct 4, 2010 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
You obviously haven't thought much about this signing.
Why would this in any way prevent the Bulls from making a deal for Melo? In fact, now that he’s locked in, the team that trades for him has insurance that he’ll be sticking around.
He's a Poison Pill Player now. It makes him very, very difficult to trade.
Larry Coon FAQ with an appropriate example
If a team trades an extended rookie between the date his extension is signed and the date it takes effect, his “trade value” for the receiving team is the average of the salaries in the last year of the scale contract and each year of the extension. This is called the poison pill provision. The sending team uses the player’s actual salary when calculating their outgoing salary. They use the current-year maximum salary in place of the (unknown) maximum salary for a future season, if necessary.
Here is an example of a poison pill calculation: Carmelo Anthony earns $4,694,041 in 2006-07, the final year of his rookie scale contract. Prior to October 31, 2006 he signed a five year extension (bringing the total seasons to six) for the maximum salary, with the maximum 10.5% raises. Anthony’s actual salary will not be determined until July 2007, when the maximum salary amounts for 2007-08 are set. During the 2006-07 season the 2006-07 maximum is assumed for the 2007-08 season ($13,762,775), and the salary in subsequent seasons is based on this amount ($15,070,550, $16,378,325 and $17,686,100, respectively). If Anthony is traded during the 2006-07 season, then his outgoing salary from the Nuggets’ perspective is his actual salary of $4,694,041. His incoming salary from the other team’s perspective would be $13,518,358 — the average of his 2006-07 salary and the assumed salaries in the extension.
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
Poison Pill players can be traded however.
Last one that comes to mind is Devin Harris, and it usually only happens with high salary players. (Al Jefferson was traded the same way to Minny too I believe.) At any rate, being PPP doesn’t serve any real purpose other than to make a trade more difficult.
In short, the Bulls knew that and that’s why they signed Noah to the extension. They aren’t trading him.
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Exactly what he deserves. Now excuse me while I attempt to figure out how the Bulls can still win the Central Dvision.
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It's not that bad yet
we’ve still got ~45 wins in us with no Boozer.
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 3, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a big Boozer fan but his absence means the offense takes a giant step back.
We’re back to square one offensively. They’re going to win games on defense just like last year.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
We have more than that.
We had ~45 wins in us last year with a healthy Noah. We’re still gonna get 50+wins.
That's if everyone's 100% healthy
and when does that ever happen?
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 3, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we were good for 48 if everyone was healthy.
45 if Noah missed just half as many games. Either way, we lose Boozer, but I still think this team sans Booz is better than last years(Derrick/Joakim/Taj improvements as well as an actual coach and defensive scheme).
thats definitely something to worry about
The bucks were already projecteed by most to be about 4 or 5 games within our range. Add the fact that they have most of the same team and system together to this boozer thing and it could really hurt our playoff seeding
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
by sin on Oct 3, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah hate to get all Debbie Downer before a preseason game but I was really excited to see how the new offense was going to flesh out.
Not looking forward to the whole “Derrick take 22 shots and try to create 10 extra buckets for your teammates per game” offense. Plus we have a rookie head coach who doesn’t need the extra adversity.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
at least thibs has dealt with this situation recently having come from boston
In boston when kg went down they were forced to change their game and run instead of setting halfcourt plays every play. I don’t think it’ll ever come to “here’s the ball derrick. Go” that’s vinny not thibs. Thibs will just tailor the offense to what it was like boston without kg imo
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
by sin on Oct 3, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
they were still better than us without bogut sadly
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
They went 6-7 without Bogut
Which is pretty damn close to .500
Overpaid.
Can we dump his contract already?
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by chapuforyou on Oct 3, 2010 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
You're so cute.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
we now have two Luol Deng's?
I might not blog this season.
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by SoulEater7 on Oct 3, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Steal
Pretty much the same contract as Ben Gordon. Noah is worth every penny of that extension, which is pretty rare thing.
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it really feels like noah did this to keep spirits high
He is the emotional leader afterall like everyone says. I wouldn’t be surprised if he saw a disappointed team at practice this morning and decided to agree on the deal to keep everyone going
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
If he's that dedicated to the team,
he should’ve accepted in the first place.
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 3, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling the deal was in place and they were just waiting till the Monday news cycle to announce it.
This is definitely something to keep the fans from going insane.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I was gonna say the same thing...
I like to think he did it for bulls fans too…. I’m sure we were more dissapointed than the team anyways. Im sure guys like JJ and Taj werent too bummed out about it. The reality is he prolly just came around to the offer before he risked getting hurt in the first preseason game (or by tripping over something)
you think hes a martyr?
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Well, I don't think I can post on here anymore
Is anyone else having issues with the comments loading? Every time I click on a post, nothing loads. It’s been happening all day. How the hell do I fix this???
Superteams suck.
Restart your computer...
Then run virus scan…
Can't wait to see Boozer and Rose running pick and roll...err...
by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I tried that
For some reason this post is working. All others will not load. Strange…
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 3, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop downloading so much scat porn.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
That's a little harsh don't you think?
Do you really dislike Noah that much? I mean he might be a little overpaid with this but it looks to be decent. Kudos for taking such a principled stance. I don’t agree about not posting here over this but you have to admire a man with principles.
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by HotTimeInOldTown on Oct 4, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
u didnt actually read his comment huh?
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by piccolomair on Oct 4, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Thank god. This is great news.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
No Kurt was traded.
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by SoulEater7 on Oct 3, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too bad you weren't.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
It sounds like a good deal for the Bulls.
If anything, he’s underpaid. If the hard cap rumors are true, its going to be hard to fit all the pieces together nicely, so the smaller the pieces are, the better.
Definitely needed this
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
by Yibs on Oct 3, 2010 10:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Noah just dunked on Boozers ass again?
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best quote ever!
“I don’t feel like I’m cursed, just bad luck,” Boozer said. “I’ll get a new bag though. And I’ll have someone else answer the door.”
I don’t feel like I’m curse, just bad luck.
New sig!
Story of my life!
I don’t feel like I’m dumb, just not smart.
[O-MAIR A-SHEEK]
Bad luck is contingent, a curse is absolute.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Oct 3, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
booz in need of someone to answer the door? someone just became useful!
This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.
by sin on Oct 3, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Uh. ... What? ...
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Call me crazy, but I think this Boozer thing can be a blessing in disguise
I think this team is good enough to win without him. As we stand right now, we’re better than we were at the end of last season. The only difference is they won’t have to live up to all the off season hype. They can kinda sneak under the radar with a ready made excuse. To me, this all comes down to Rose. If he is as good as everyone expects him to be, I don’t see this affecting our win-loss record all that much. One, maybe two wins. If he can’t live up to the hype, things could be worse. The Noah signing was great news all around. So I don’t think today was all that bad. (unless you’re a member of the Bears offensive line)
Superteams suck.
you're crazy
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 4, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
your comment makes no sense.
"If I was to answer that question honestly, I would have to lie to you."
- Isiah Thomas, when asked if any teams were interested in trading for Shandon Anderson
KC is such an incredible douche:
Sources said earlier published reports portraying the negotiations as acrimonious or far apart were overblown
Ok fuckface, why the is it so important that readers think the “acrimony” was “overblown”?
The deal also will put to rest the overblown Carmelo Anthony trade rumors.
Hey, there’s that word again! Thanks Jer… I mean KC!
I know I can’t write for shit, but I think I can still say with some authority that KC is absolute garbage. He’s turned into a complete company man. Every other gd word is “source”, he doesn’t even bother writing, he just spits out the shit that’s fed to him on a silver platter.
By my count, he used the word source(s) 4 times in that short, worthless report (Plus two “overblowns”), which read more like a Bulls puff piece. At this point I think he’s just warming Sam Smith’s seat til he decides to call it quits. If being a total suck-ass is what qualifies as good reporting these days, count me as one person that isn’t too excited about the future.
Superteams suck.
hes acting like jerseychaser after that melo story broke
Sources said earlier published reports portraying the negotiations as acrimonious or far apart were overblown, though there were moments of tension. The Tribune reported in June that the Bulls would make re-signing Noah to an extension a major priority.
oh wow tribune reporting that bulls wnated to keep noah??
cool story bro
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by sin on Oct 4, 2010 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe that was the truth?
the fact that the signing was so far in advance of the deadline means that maybe it was as fait accompli as KC had been saying.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 4, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Possibly
but KC doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt with me. Plus, he never said it was a fait accompli. He was just telling people it’s not a big deal (or it’s “overblown”) because the Bulls had him as a restricted free agent next year.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 4, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
It's Sunday night! Get a hold of yourself, man!
Heavy drinking is saved for Monday thru Saturday.
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by chapuforyou on Oct 4, 2010 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Not when Noah gets resigned
I drank a super-tall bottle of French Champaign and then let out a primal scream.
We all celebrate in our own way.
Don't fall and break a bone, Mr. Sloppy Drunk.
You might have to make up a story about tripping over a bag or something.
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by bullhockey on Oct 4, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much made my day
+ I love me some incentive contracts. Make these guys work!
man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT
Noah: “When people put numbers like that in front of you, it’s hard to say no.”
man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT
YFBB would take the contract. Tithing to the church of BG and Tyrus gets expensive.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 4, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
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