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Around SBN: Bob Sapp Denies Throwing Fights

[From the fanshots. I'm lucky I didn't break my own hand out of frustration after reading that. -ed.]

Yikes. Can you say buzzkill?

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My thoughts exactly.

"Make good basketball plays!"
-VDN

by penguin1 on Oct 3, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel the same way, good thing we didnt trade Taj

From his injury, it seems to be a boxers fracture which means he had to punch something to fracture it. Rose, Noah, and Deng are going to have to all play at All-star levels to keep up in the conference.

by Slick Ric on Oct 3, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it is a boxer's fracture

then his long-term health should be fine. He won’t be able to move his hand for the next 5 weeks or so, but his hand should be fine, relatively speaking.

"I want to be that guy. I want to be the reason the Bulls are back."- Derrick Rose.
"I'm never leaving Chicago."- Derrick Rose

by Cosmis on Oct 3, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That blows.

Like Option says above, good thing we have Taj.

by dakoose on Oct 3, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

What star PF is injury prone again...?

The one that plays 80+ games a year with “bad knees” or the one that can’t even stay healthy before the season starts? Just saying.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 3, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I was too lazy to scroll to the bottom of the page to comment so I just replied to yours.

But to answer your question I’m referring to AMARE STOUDEMIRE!!!!!!!!! Dropped 32 in 28 minutes against Armani today. Yes it’s lesser competition but he did what he was supposed to… DOMINATE!!! And with that contract he better.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 4, 2010 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

McGraw with more
McGrawDHBulls
  
Boozer’s injury happened Saturday, when Bulls did not practice; will require surgery.

by Option27 on Oct 3, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

when Bulls did not practice

Uggghhh

man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

by Belize on Oct 3, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mhm

Probably skateboarding accident or something

by BAB-Bass on Oct 3, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hehe, You never know

I remember some NBA player injuring himself badly surfing one year.

by BAB-Bass on Oct 3, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luc Longley dislocated his shoulder

body surfing at some time during the 2nd 3-peat.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Oct 3, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Longely, Ellis, and Boozer were hanging out this weekend...

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Oct 4, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Another apple-cutting incident.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Oct 3, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

apple punch?

man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

by Belize on Oct 3, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously, would any other incident be less silly?

I can’t wait to hear the explanation…

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Oct 3, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

that what im thinkin'

either that or a freak accident

man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

by Belize on Oct 3, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

C.J. Watson for kicking with Boozers Baby momma

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Oct 4, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you fucking serious?

man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

by Belize on Oct 3, 2010 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Takes the suspense out of the equation

guess we don’t need to wonder whether or not he’ll be injured this year

by tuff-gong on Oct 3, 2010 2:44 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

hah!

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 3, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

That didn't take long.

This sucks.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Oct 3, 2010 2:44 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I always felt weird listening to Booz say all the right things all the time.

For a guy with a reputation of being disingenuous, did he have to always say the exactly right thing every single interview?

It’s as though it was bad karma or something…

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Oct 3, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had a feeling

he would get hurt but I thought it would be a basketball related injury. Really hate to see this happen.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Oct 3, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised by the circumstances

I don’t know if he was in some kind of bar fight or what, but this obviously doesn’t sound like a basketball injury.

by Big D on Oct 3, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

by Belize on Oct 3, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be

Actually, if someone of Boozer’s size was to punch someone so hard that he fractured his own hand, that person would probably end up in the hospital, if not be killed. So it probably wasn’t a fight.

by Big D on Oct 3, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

He less he has brittle African bones somehow.

Maybe that’s why he’s always injured.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 3, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

good lord

the bulls always seem to find new ways to shit on my heart.

by NeilFunk69 on Oct 3, 2010 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

by Belize on Oct 3, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

nope..that’s heartbreak…

::::turns up maggot brain:::::

man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

by Belize on Oct 3, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec for maggot brain

"Make good basketball plays!"
-VDN

by penguin1 on Oct 3, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Seriously, you know KC is just waiting on this one to sell whatever the org wants for him. Such a tool.

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 3, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

KC will report that Boozer actually broke his hand 3 weeks ago

but KC was sitting on the story out of respect. But since the story has leaked it’s time for him to take credit.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Oct 4, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

that is some bad luck

i wonder how it happened, if it wasn’t basketball-related.

3 Heat can't stop the 3peat.

by LAL32 on Oct 3, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, no way would they even consider that if he's only missing one month of the season

If he was out for they entire year, they might look into their options, depending on what the circumstances were.

by Big D on Oct 3, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they violate their contract, you can suspend them without pay, I think.

See Monta Ellis. But it would be absolutely insane to voluntarily relieve yourself of the other four years of having Carlos Boozer on your team, even if he would have torn his ACL or something.

by msquared10 on Oct 3, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you violate the contract, they can void the contract...

See Williams, Jay.

Another lesser option is to suspend the player without pay as noted with Monta.

Even if Boozer did something stupid that would be in violation of his contract, I don’t see the Bulls taking either option, as he was their prized free agent signing and he will only miss about 15 actual games.

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

warriors actually had the option to void ellis' contract i believe

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's correct

they instead suspended him for the time he was out, so no paychecks

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 3, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

KC
The Bulls announced Sunday that Carlos Boozer will miss eight weeks with a fractured right hand.

The team said Boozer suffered the injury on Saturday, a day off for the Bulls. The fracture of the fifth metacarpal will require surgery.

If Boozer misses all eight weeks, he will return following the Bulls’ annual November trip on November 27. That would mean 15 missed games for the Bulls’ biggest offseason acquisition.

Boozer missed 138 of 492 games (28 percent) during six season in Utah. Asked about his tendency to suffer injuries during his introductory news conference, Boozer said his injuries have been unrelated and non-chronic and bad luck.

This is more of the same.

Taj Gibson will return to his starting role at power forward in Boozer’s absence.

Link

You know, it’s not that bad. He’ll be back after the brutal road trip. They can stay afloat.

Maybe Jennings thought about Boozers injured history when predicting them finishing 1st in the division

by Option27 on Oct 3, 2010 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Relax people, this is not the end of the world

It sucks because it makes the opening couple weeks a little less exciting, and we definitely could’ve use Boozer for the circus trip, but if this is our worst bit of luck for the season, we’ll be in good shape at the end of the year.

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 3, 2010 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Our schedule sucks to start the year though

And this is a serious blow….

Man this sucks….I mean if he gets hurt while we watch on the court, that’s one thing…but this sucks, before we’ve even had a chance to watch the new look Bulls there’s a buzz kill.

2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....

by majoyenrac on Oct 3, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he could come back at less then 100%.

Possibly re-injuring it somehow. This sucks for you guys. Not to mention the contract you signed Noah to leaves no space for improvement for the next few years. You guys are going to be stuck with this team. Maybe they can pull it out somehow. Rose will need to develop into superstar potential most likely for that to happen.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 4, 2010 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess a slow start is now highly probable

In addition to completely revamping the personnel and coaching staffs, the annual West coast circus trip, they will also be missing arguably their 2/3 best player for all or most of November.

by chowder on Oct 3, 2010 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d assume Asik will also get some early minutes, whether he will be in a situation to succeed remains to be seen. I’d prefer he had more time to get acclimated before being thrown in the deep end.

by chowder on Oct 3, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

the bulls will survive this

but i was looking forward to seeing them kick some ass to start the year

by NeilFunk69 on Oct 3, 2010 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's look at the possible bright side

Gibson now starts, right? He plays fairly well. His stats go up a bit and . . . more trade value!

by Option27 on Oct 3, 2010 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

That's a great point

Really, the only negative thing about this is that it lessens our win total by a few games, and it makes the start of the year a little less exciting.

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 3, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Exactly

So preseason won’t be as fun? Ehh

by Option27 on Oct 3, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

my thing is we were going to lose a lot of those games anyways

circrus road trip and new roster trying to come together.
it happened early which is alot better than happening later when we’re making a playoff push. (although that could still happen)

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

wins are wins, losses are losses?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 3, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, it could be

Kinda depends on your expectations for the season. Under mine, I don’t think it would make much of a difference

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 3, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Our starting power forward goes down for 2 months and you wanna trade his back-up?? Who was our starter last year! And ONLY player to play all 82 games for us…

by BAB-Bass on Oct 3, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe this will be good for d rose

put the team on his shoulders, develop him more as an offensive star and when booz comes back he will be unstoppable.

by NeilFunk69 on Oct 3, 2010 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

This fucking sucks. Another disastrous circus trip on tap now, especially with Brewer's hammy still ailing.

Bulls will start out 5-10 or 6-9 in the first 15. Crap. This really sucks.

The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.

by fundamentallysound on Oct 3, 2010 3:22 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

i dont think so

the bulls were gonna be ten games over five hundred last year til noah went down. This team is better than that team even without booz.

by NeilFunk69 on Oct 3, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see them winning

Detroit, Portland, New York, Golden State, Washington, Houston, Phoenix, Sacramento

by Option27 on Oct 3, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be surprised if they beat Houston, Portland, and Phoenix.

Although, I’m probably slightly overrating Phoenix given their bad offseason.

The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.

by fundamentallysound on Oct 3, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

On my fucking birthday. Yuck.

"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."

by Dash2112 on Oct 4, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

They went 41-41

With the only negative point differential in the playoffs, isn’t that the definition of mediocre?

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by Super-Structure on Oct 3, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

i still think we're way better now than we were at any point last year

mostly because noah is healthy and everyone else is a year older. We are alot better at the two also.

by NeilFunk69 on Oct 3, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely, I dont think its panic time

Noah is going to do his thing, But I anticipate Rose to get off to a way better start this season.

by Slick Ric on Oct 3, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phoenix added Warrick, Turkoglu and Childress...

Their offseason was not that bad…I know they lost Amar’e, but they should still be a decent team…

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

At some point, Nash will start playing like he's over the age of 35

When that happens, the Suns will be a 30-win team. And that point could very well be now.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Oct 3, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

they've got a great medical staff

and he really takes care of his body, but you’re right, at some point the wheels will come off

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Oct 3, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Portland? Seriously?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 3, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The circus trip is hellish this year

Tue, Nov 16 @ Houston
Wed, Nov 17 @ San Antonio
Fri, Nov 19 @ Dallas
Tue, Nov 23 @ LA Lakers
Wed, Nov 24 @ Phoenix
Fri, Nov 26 @ Denver
Sat, Nov 27 @ Sacramento

by Big D on Oct 3, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

when was it ever not?

i think we can pull off wins in phoenix, houston and sac-town

by regui8er on Oct 3, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

guarunteed losses?

we’ve got derrick freakin rose, there are no guaranteed losses anymore (except against the lakers and heat)

by NeilFunk69 on Oct 3, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

They aren't beating the Spurs in San Antonio without Boozer or Dallas in Dallas.

Maybe they can beat Denver will all their turmoil.

The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.

by fundamentallysound on Oct 3, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

san antonio doesnt scare me at all

noah gives duncan hell, rose is on another level than parker

by NeilFunk69 on Oct 3, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man you are REALLY pessimistic.

Agree with you about the Spurs, never bet against them, not after they dismantled Dallas.

That being said I think the bulls can take a page from PHX’s yearbook and run on them, thats how they’ll have to play to win

by regui8er on Oct 3, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the Bulls ceiling was 50 wins for a while. Now they are losing Boozer for a full month of the season

during one of the toughest portions of the schedule. This is very damaging.

The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.

by fundamentallysound on Oct 3, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

well if you think positively

we might have lost those games anyways adjusting to a new system with our luck on the circus trip so at least he didnt get injured in like march or april

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

well we're hoping he doesnt

just saying glad he decided to get injured now than later.

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he could still get injured later. That's the point. It's not either or. It's not like because he

got injured now that he’ll be healthy later. I just wish he didn’t get injured period.

The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.

by fundamentallysound on Oct 3, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone could still get injured

this one happened and im glad it happened early

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually wish it happened later.

I’d rather they spend the pre-season and the early part of the season getting used to each other. If he then missed some time, it wouldn’t take long to get back into rhythm. Now, though, we might be waiting until January before they’re looking like a cohesive team.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 3, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You seem the more disappointed than anyone I've seen reading this thread.

The way you make it seem you would be unforgiving of him EVER getting injured. Also think about what you said, the two don’t have anything in common, so look at it like everyone else that he got his injury out of the way and he’ll probably be okay come spring (Yes, we know its foolish since the two are unrelated)

You can’t say you didn’t have in the back of your mind that Boozer wasn’t gonna get injured

Its okay, life goes on.

We’ll be fun to watch in the playoffs, iA

by regui8er on Oct 3, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

  • you didn’t have in the back of your mind that Boozer was going to get injured

by regui8er on Oct 3, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last year

The Bulls went into San Antonio and beat them with Taj as the starter. Link. They beat San Antonio at home also. So even if this team is equal to last year’s team, there’s no reason to say they can’t beat the Spurs in San Antonio.

You are being way too pessimistic about the Bulls chances.

by runningman on Oct 3, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really...

You think Denver is that much better than the Bulls…I don’t, with or without Boozer…the only loss I see with confidence is @LA

Remember, they did win like 5 consecutive road games last season against +.500 teams…

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ehhh

it was worse last year.

by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 3, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yall being way to negative

I can see them beating Houston,San An,Phoenix, Denver and sacramento. possibly dallas. Maybe im being too optimistic but none of those teams scare me except the lakers and I believe we should be competitive against them.

by Slick Ric on Oct 3, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol @ bryield

This means 50 shot attempts per game for Rose. Yey!!!

by Slick Ric on Oct 3, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Fuck.

"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."

by Dash2112 on Oct 3, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

nicely said.

If there was a guy named 'Pargo Del Negro' who took too many long 2's, went home and tripped over his bag, breaking his hand. Then decided to go on live national television and took half an hour to tell everyone his 'decision' on where he would be getting surgery all while being sucked off by Aaron Grey.......That person would be awesome compared to quitting smoking.

by mrdope on Oct 3, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scrap upgrade complete.

If there was a guy named 'Pargo Del Negro' who took too many long 2's, went home and tripped over his bag, breaking his hand. Then decided to go on live national television and took half an hour to tell everyone his 'decision' on where he would be getting surgery all while being sucked off by Aaron Grey.......That person would be awesome compared to quitting smoking.

by mrdope on Oct 3, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

da da da da da da !!

Let me at those Bags, I’ll SPLAT EM!

If there was a guy named 'Pargo Del Negro' who took too many long 2's, went home and tripped over his bag, breaking his hand. Then decided to go on live national television and took half an hour to tell everyone his 'decision' on where he would be getting surgery all while being sucked off by Aaron Grey.......That person would be awesome compared to quitting smoking.

by mrdope on Oct 3, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 good things could come out of this (reaching at this point)

1. Rose is going to start the season aggressive. The offense will definitely be run through him to begin the season and we won’t have to worry about him deferring to anyone. When Boozer comes back, he will have to adjust to Rose, and not the other way out.

Counterpoint – I was hoping Rose and Boozer can establish some chemistry early. This really kills that. They won’t have any preseason games together and the training camp was really short.

2. If JJ has anything, he will get to show it early. The Bulls have nothing behind Taj/Noah worth talking about. I’d guess we are going to see some JJ/Deng forward combos early in the season. If he can play at all, he will get a chance to show it early.

Counterpoint – our depth will be awful, and we really can’t afford another injury.

by Basketball Smurf on Oct 3, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree.

But I’m getting a bit concerned about Brewer’s injury, which means we could potentially start the season with 2 starters sitting out (assuming Brewer would start over Korver/Bogans). That would be a lot on Rose’s shoulders, although maybe no different than the last two seasons.

by bryield on Oct 3, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

ASIK!!!

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 3, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Outlook

First, regarding Booz, theESPN story points out:

In eight professional seasons, Boozer has missed 145 games.

This averages out to about 18 games per season. By my count, eight weeks out this season comes to about 22 games or so. So does this mean that next season, he’ll likely miss less games? Gee thanks, Booz.

In terms of the roster, I hope this does not mean the Bulls miss out on a good perimeter pickup (such as Kyle Weaver) because they feel they have to sign more frontcourt depth.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Oct 3, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Timing and organization is a big part of Thibs' defensive system

I think missing out on these early games is going to set the team back a bit in this area. I mean, they’ll miss his scoring, of course. But when he returns, team defense might actually fall off a little bit, until he is properly acclimated.

On the bright side, maybe this’ll accelerate Taj Gibson’s experience in the system, and improve the 2nd unit’s team defense when he returns to a bench role.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Oct 3, 2010 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I also wonder about what this means for Noah's contract negotiations.

Does the organization value Noah more with the absence of Boozer, and agree to 13-14 mil/year?

by bryield on Oct 3, 2010 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

melo can save us!!!!!

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

It really is awful.

I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite

by Super-Structure on Oct 3, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

we should trade boozer for melo when the restriction is up

yeah!

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

rotflol!

Yes, losing to the Lakers three straight years was according to plan. Phil Jackson’s plan.

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by tandur on Oct 3, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, isn't one of the knocks on Boozer that he takes longer to return from injury?

If so, the 8 weeks out could lead to an additional 2-4 weeks of discretionary injury time. Maybe we should ask Jazz fans what to expect from here.

by bryield on Oct 3, 2010 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

My friend broke his hand punching a wooden door and was lifting weights within 6 weeks, granted I know weights are not basketball.

by regui8er on Oct 3, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't the team have released the reason why, immediately?

I mean, in this situation, knowing how the hell his dumb ass did this, is probably more important than knowing that it happened in the first place

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 3, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

whats the point of knowing how he hurt it?

if they release it and its some dumb ass reason theyd be forced to suspend him probably which would only add to our pain.

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

They might not know either

What Boozer’s telling them may be very different than what actually happened. There’s a long history of athletes making up stories to cover up embarrassing off-field/off-court injuries.

by Big D on Oct 3, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

how the hell his dumb ass did this

I’m guessing it started by jumping…

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Oct 3, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

he'll handle it like that celtics team that beat us

no kg. no boozer
hand the offense to rondo. hand the offense to rose.
easy!

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can any docs or PTs shed light as to why he needs surgery?

If its only a fracture there shouldn’t be that much displacement that he needs surgery right? Or are they going to put plates on his metatarsal?

I’m curious to find out

by regui8er on Oct 3, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

woops,

also its broken, i thought it was a fracture that everyone was saying, so i guess this post is useless

by regui8er on Oct 3, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

so what is a fracture then?

frac·ture   
[frak-cher] Show IPA
noun, verb, -tured, -tur·ing.
–noun
1.
the breaking of a bone, cartilage, or the like, or the resulting condition. Compare comminuted fracture, complete fracture, compound fracture, greenstick fracture, simple fracture.

by Jaina on Oct 5, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Still think Stoudemire was the guy to get

For some reason, the org wanted nothing to do with him.

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 3, 2010 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

ooo yeah money

thats another good point

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

In fairness...

Around here it was injury concerns about Amar’e…we don’t really know what the Bulls didn’t like…

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think i looked it up

and they’ve missed about the same amount of games over their careers. like scary amount.

that and if we’re gonna have a guy who averages 20 missed games, i’d rather be paying him what we’re paying booz than what the knicks are paying stoudemire.

by Jaina on Oct 3, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

wasnt stoudemire pretty much sold on ny from the start?

and well that eye ball scares me more than boozer’s retarded injuries

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well it was that, and

the no-defense thing was a problem.

JR flubbed the signing of D’Antoni over it. He wasn’t going to give max to Amare.

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by bullhockey on Oct 3, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say Boozer is a superior defender to Amare by a significant margin

Which makes him the better player right now. However, he’s older, so 3 years from now, Amare will probably be much better.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Oct 3, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's only a year older, though

and same number of seasons. i don’t know if the margin is ever going to be that wide.

by Jaina on Oct 3, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

So is Amare

 Boozer’s an elite defensive rebounder and a decent post defender. That’s enough to make him better than Amare.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Oct 3, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

And now

Chicago, meet your big offseason pick-up and new starting power forward, Carlos Boozer! So prone to injury you can’t trust him on his day off.

/I’m still glad we picked him over Amare.

by ToroToroToro on Oct 3, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

There must be

If there was an innocent explanation, like some weightlifting accident, wouldn’t they have just said that?

by Big D on Oct 3, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, here we go

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5644724

Boozer suffered the injury on Saturday during the Bulls’ day off. According to team sources, Boozer tripped over a bag in his house and fell.

by Big D on Oct 3, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Riiiiiight.

Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.

by Illini15 on Oct 3, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

THAT'S what took them an extra few hours to come up with?

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by bullhockey on Oct 3, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I would have gone with "he dropped a dumbbell on his hand" instead

It makes him sound like a hard worker, for lifting weights on his day off. This just makes him sound like an uncoordinated klutz.

by Big D on Oct 3, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gar and Pax walk into JR's office.

JR: Ok, whaddaya got? The press is waiting and this is looking suspicious.

Pax: You said something imaginative and plausible.

Gar: Sir, we came up with ‘fell over a misplaced bag in his house’.

(JR sighs, puts hands on his face. Awkward silence.)

JR: Gar. You suck.

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by bullhockey on Oct 3, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

no

this just makes the bulls PR look like complete tools

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Bulls will change the story.

Tomorrow it will be, “Boozer dropped a lunch pail on his hand.”

by bryield on Oct 3, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He needs to be like Taj and wear a hard hat.

Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.

by Illini15 on Oct 3, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

he was building a house for the homeless, someone dropped a brick on his hand.

He was saving a school bus full of children from a kidnapper, one punch took care of everything.

There a lots of great ways to break a hand that sound good.

by JockstrapNoah on Oct 3, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeh like......

He was jerking off in an Iron Maiden or he bitch slapped The Shaqtus.

dope philosophy: If Pat Riley got caught in a bear trap in the woods and nobody was around to hear him, would anybody give a fuck?

by mrdope on Oct 3, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

it kind of fits in with the 'cutting apples' one

so ridiculous you almost believe it more than a plausible story.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 3, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

Ever notice that professional athletes, some of the most agile, coordinated, and quick-reacting people on the planet, are AMAZINGLY susceptible to uncommon household mishaps that cause long-term injury? Tight-space tight accidents more plausible in cheap, cramped studio apartments than million-dollar, cavernous and palatial homes.

BS.

by Kevin C on Oct 3, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does Boozer come back strong from injuries?

I feel like I remember him being someone that puts up good stats when coming back from injury

by regui8er on Oct 3, 2010 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

He plays well with both...

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its all Thibs fault!

His practices were too hard and he wanted a way out!

by regui8er on Oct 3, 2010 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

good news is we can rule out apple knife in bed on this one

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow what a crappy day!

The Bengals lose to the Browns, baseball season ends and now this. Next, I bet someone tells me that there is no Santa Claus.

by MrBungle on Oct 3, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry...

I posted the same below…should have clicked through…

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

Taj, or his hired assassin Jeff Gillooly, is obviously sneaking up on staring Bulls power forwards and causing them injury so he can start.

by runningman on Oct 3, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

unacceptable

Where 79-44 lead turns into a 4 point loss Happens

by Orange Juice on Oct 3, 2010 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

ZOMG You knew it???

You must be a psychic!!!

Can you read my palm?

by wennington4 on Oct 3, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thibs' fault
On double practice day, Boozer would’ve been at hotel near practice facility. Instead, on day off, he went home and has told team he fell.

KC

by Option27 on Oct 3, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah, that was weird

also, the implication is that boozer is lying. Would KC ever, like, find out what happened? Or would he be too concerned with the ‘humanity’ of the parties involved?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 3, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Last season, starter Tyrus Thomas broke an arm in a non basketball related injury, Taj Gibson starts…this season, starter Carlos Boozer breaks his hand in a non basketball related injury, Taj Gibson starts.

I am just sayin’

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 4:52 PM CDT reply actions  

cos it would be impossible for his assistant to tweet for him, or wait, type with the other hand.

If there was a guy named 'Pargo Del Negro' who took too many long 2's, went home and tripped over his bag, breaking his hand. Then decided to go on live national television and took half an hour to tell everyone his 'decision' on where he would be getting surgery all while being sucked off by Aaron Grey.......That person would be awesome compared to quitting smoking.

by mrdope on Oct 3, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

buzzkill

Chicago Jazz > Three Am-Egos

by chicago030 on Oct 3, 2010 5:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I call bullshit on the falling over a bag story

What’s interesting is that, depending upon specifically what the injury was and where in the hand/wrist area the fracture was located – this type of injury is common among drunk drivers, specifically when you slam on the brakes with your hands (or only one hand) on the steering wheel.

I remember that coming out when Bryan Robinson (former Bears DT) broke both wrists and claimed to have fallen over this dog (I believe that was his excuse, pardon if it was something even more lame).

I hope Booze has a long, healthy, and trouble-free Bulls career, and I have absolutely no idea how he actually became injured … but the current story just doesn’t pass the smell test.

"You can't be afraid to play somebody because they've got 3 really good players. How are you going to win if you're afraid to play? We're not going to be afraid to play - we're going to fight, we're going to attack, we're going to throw it out there and see what happens." - Carlos Boozer

by Jivas on Oct 3, 2010 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

i'm pretty sure he was asked about nightlife

and said he doesn’t drink

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Oct 3, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

he already know whats happened

we just want him to report it

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw, the answer is "no",

but I’m sure we can expect an unusually large amount of snarky comments, bad jokes, and awkward giggling during his appearance on Chicago Trubune Live this week.

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 3, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

a lakers fan friend of mine pointed out that this isnt THAT ridiculous of a story

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2009/12/ron_artest_trips_over_box_at_h.html

sure he didnt break anything but yeah. hey at least our PR spins are just as bad as the Lakers!

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Boozer is at Berto Center and will address the media.

by palmpre on Oct 3, 2010 5:42 PM CDT reply actions  

 KCJHoop
Boozer is at Berto Center and will address the media.

by palmpre on Oct 3, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boozer:

- “Yea, it sucks. It’s a real shame, but it’s not the end of the world.”

- “Now I just gotta try and get better as fast as I can, so I can help my team.”

- “I’m not gonna get into detail about what happened, I’ll just say it was a freak accident.”

(Idk, is that kinda stuff interesting?)

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 3, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

i hope he brings the bag he tripped over

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm more implying the awkwardness of the situation...

but your right, knowing the bulls and their players, I should expect a very plain interview/explanation that leaves me dissatisfied

by BO$CO on Oct 3, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

For fuckin' fuck's sake

"in this day and age of "let's erect a statue"-isn't it time Jerry Reinsdorf is honored" - The Swirsk

by RogersPark Kris on Oct 3, 2010 5:48 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Remember when Fred Miller fell in his house

and hit his jaw on the counter.

And a week later the counter was Olin Kreutz’ fist.

And a week later the fist was in the Bears lockerroom.

Good times.

I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.

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by NBA Observer on Oct 3, 2010 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought the fist

was at a shooting range?

I may be combining stories though…

by tuff-gong on Oct 3, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Oct 3, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, a lot of the season is left after his return, estimated at the beginning of December. And, sure, the Bulls have a capable fill in with Taj Gibson, who started most of last season.

Of course, Taj got that starting job in November when starter Tyrus Thomas fractured his left arm. No, you don’t want Taj as your backup, though I don’t believe he’s personally responsible for either injury.

lol @ sam

man, fuck you! by palmpre on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

by Belize on Oct 3, 2010 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

im already looking forward to that possibility!

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

After an entire offseason dedicated to shoring up the offense they'll likely be no better than last year.

I fucking love this team.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2010 6:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Boozer says surgery will be Tuesday. 8 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter

by palmpre on Oct 3, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Hang on a second...this might actually be a good thing! No, seriously.

Regarding this, I still wouldn’t count the Bulls out from winning 50 games. No, seriously.

Here was my prediction for the first 16 games for the Bulls “with” Boozer (I predict him missing about 16 games if the 8 week figure holds up):

@ OKC – L
DET – W
POR – W
NY – W
@ BOS – L
DEN – W
GS – W
WAS – W
@ HOU – W
@ SA – L
@ DAL – L
@ LAL – L
@ PHO – W
@ DEN – L
@ SAC – W
ORL – L

9-7 even with him in the lineup

Without him, revised:

@ OKC – L
DET – W
POR – L
NY – W
@ BOS – L
DEN – L
GS – W
WAS – W
@ HOU – L
@ SA – L
@ DAL – L
@ LAL – L
@ PHO – W
@ DEN – L
@ SAC – W
ORL – L

6-10 without him

So really, there’s only a net difference of 3 games IMO. We give up a game that I would have had us winning vs. Portland, and Denver, and we lose to Houston on the road (I thought we might have been able to pull that game out with Boozer in there…probably no longer).

Now, here’s where this injury actually gets interesting. I had actually “built in” Boozer missing 16 games into my 53-29 schedule when I made my predictions wayyyy back when over here (in the comments):

http://www.blogabull.com/2010/8/10/1615758/chicago-bulls-2010-2011-schedule

This was the late season stretch, for the month of March pretty much. Here’s how I had us faring without him at that time:

NO – W
@ CHA – L
ATL – W
UTA – L
WAS – W
@ NJ – L
@ IND – L
SAC – W
@ ATL – L
MEM – W
@ MIL – L
PHI – W
@ MIN – W
@ DET – L
TOR – W
PHO – W

Now, let’s just say, for the sake of saying, that this hand injury will be the only time Boozer misses for the rest of the year (give or take 1-2 games here and there). Let’s change this to assume that in the time I built in for Boozer being out, he will actually be there (since he’ll be out now):

NO – W
@ CHA – W
ATL – W
UTA – W
WAS – W
@ NJ – W
@ IND – W
SAC – W
@ ATL – L
MEM – W
@ MIL – L
PHI – W
@ MIN – W
@ DET – W
TOR – W
PHO – W

In my predicted stretch without Boozer, I had us going 9-7. Assuming he’ll actually be present for this stretch now, I have us going 14-2.

So my schedule prediction changes by the following:

Original prediction: 53-29

Original 16 game stretch w/Boozer predicted: 9-7
New 16 game stretch w/o Boozer predicted: 6-10

Net change -3 wins, +3 losses

Changed prediction: 50-32

Original 16 game stretch w/o Boozer predicted: 9-7
New 16 game stretch w/Boozer predicted: 14-2

Net change +5 wins, -5 losses

Changed prediction: 55-27

End result:

Yeah, I’m actually going out on a limb here and I’m going to revise my prediction – the Bulls are going to win 55 games this year, 2 more than I originally predicted.

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by anorexorcist on Oct 3, 2010 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

im just trying to approach this rationally

and that’s what i got.

"4 inches, baby!" --ripped off from Kush

by anorexorcist on Oct 3, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol!

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Oct 4, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why would Boozer breaking his hand in October have anything to do with sustaining an injury in March?

It’s not like his injuries are of the wear-and-tear variety—we’re not talking about KG’s knees. The only sense in which this injury lowers the chances Boozer won’t be injured in March is that we can be almost 100% sure he won’t sustain a season-ending (or nearly so) injury in October or November. Otherwise, we’re talking about two totally different things.

by msquared10 on Oct 3, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a poor understanding of the situation.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 3, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

How so?

If the difference between having a player and not having that player over a 15-game span is 3 wins, that’s one hell of a player.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Oct 3, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The difference between winning and losing is so small on the margins that not having your second best player is obviously

enough to tilt three close games against you. It doesn’t mean he’s worth 3 whole wins. It just means his absence could be enough to sway the outcome of three games.

The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.

by fundamentallysound on Oct 4, 2010 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure but it doesn't sway our expected win total by 3 games

it may come to be that Boozer would be the difference between a W and an L in 3 games, but it’s also possible that all of our losses end up being blowouts that we would’ve lost anyways.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Oct 4, 2010 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

in that case, you're saying he's worth zero wins over 15 games, and worth nothing

and that’s obviously not the case either.

See how this is faulty logic?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 4, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's not what I'm saying at all

The truth is obviously in between. You’re smart enough to understand the basic concepts of probability. Don’t make me spell it out for you.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Oct 4, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

right

exactly what i was thinking.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 4, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was wondering if someone could explain for me

why sentiment seems to be so vehemently anti-Taj. I would rather have Boozer starting over Taj, but now that Taj is the starting #4 again, what’s the argument against?

by OwlNotebook on Oct 3, 2010 6:38 PM CDT reply actions  

And I'm not saying that he isn't

In fact, I’m saying he is. But isn’t the second post in this thread, for example, a little ridiculous? It’s not like Derrick getting replaced with Pargo.

by OwlNotebook on Oct 3, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The hate is kind of sarcastic.

And you can’t take anything chapu says 100% seriously

by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 3, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank God

you’re not “the leader”

by torch on Oct 5, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

but now Taj is replaced by Scalabrine

this is bad. It’s bad! can’t we say it sucks? I can’t stand the breakneck speed we have to ‘look on the bright side’ with this stuff. It’s bad and it hurts the Bulls. Which is bad.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 3, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scal or JJ

i don’t know who is worse… But Kurt can play some PF too

by JustAnotherFan on Oct 4, 2010 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chapu hasn't posted a sincere remark in 2 seasons so there's that.

And it is kind of a big deal. More minutes for Kurt Thomas, a real need for Omer Asik to show he can contribute right away, possibly keeping Scalabrine on the team and actually giving him minutes.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And, as noted...

This could be James Johnson big break…

Can't wait to see Boozer and Rose running pick and roll...err...

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Taj will average 16 per 36 this year.

You heard it hear first. Plus, he plays defense.

"Get up or GET OUT THE WAY!"
~Stacy King

by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 3, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow......just wow.....

went camping for the weekend, great time, Im 5 days into quitting smoking and going strong, have a short week at work this week, things were looking up for a Monday, then i opened BlogaBull………ah this is what Mondays should feel like, dam i want a cigarette.

dope philosophy: If Pat Riley got caught in a bear trap in the woods and nobody was around to hear him, would anybody give a fuck?

by mrdope on Oct 3, 2010 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

why couldnt he jump

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 7:02 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Weak

I was really looking forward to seeing Boozer play. Guess I have to wait even longer. :[

Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
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by Mini Hulk on Oct 3, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Definitely rec'd that comment.

Why? Because just as it seems like everyone is calming down, you put things back into perspective. This is not sarcasm – this is the truth, folks.

by bryield on Oct 3, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Really...?

He is going to miss 15 games of an 82 game season…

I mean no one is happy that the big free agent signing injured himself, but its not like he is the only good player on the team or the only free agent the Bulls signed.

Can't wait to see Boozer and Rose running pick and roll...err...

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 3, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is the only significant free agent we signed

And our season starts off really tough

And we’ve waited months for the season to start

And Boozer was a key piece (our #2 guy)…

THis is awful…..’

Plus this has happened to the Booz before.

And he’ll come back and Deng’ll go down….

2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....

by majoyenrac on Oct 3, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

and then the world will explode

[because Carlos Boozer tripped over a bag]

Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!

by Prevenge on Oct 3, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well he broke his hand...

I don’t get your comment.

2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....

by majoyenrac on Oct 3, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You were foretelling ultimate doom!

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM.
I was just being similarly bombastic.
Also, I think that ‘tripped over a bag’ is a pretty great excuse and will start using it for everything.

Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!

by Prevenge on Oct 4, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, it does suck.

First, because there’s no guarantee that he will only miss 15 games. Given Boozer’s history, he has often taken a bit longer to come back from injury.

Second, following up majoyenrac’s comment, Boozer was supposed to be our key offensive presence in the post, something that the Bulls have been missing for quite some time.

So, you’re right in the sense that this isn’t the end of the world, nor the end of the season. But, it may keep some games out of our wins column, which could be particularly important for what is looking to be a tight race for the 2-5 playoff spots in the East.

by bryield on Oct 3, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

When it comes down to it

it could mean facing Boston on the road in the first round rather than the Bobcats at home.

So, yeah. Kinda a big deal…

by BAB-Bass on Oct 4, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay.............

Start Asik at the 5 and start Noah at the 4.

by RED_BULL on Oct 3, 2010 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

That's ridiculous.

Maybe let’s see if Asik’s game translates at all to the NBA before we anoint him the starter…I for one do not ever want to rely on him against the likes of Dwight Howard

by tuff-gong on Oct 3, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of those two options

I’d rather see Asik and Noah on the floor than Noah and Scalls. There aren’t that many options, there are only 5 front court players after Boozer (Noah, Asik, Thomas, Taj, Scalls). Any combination that doesn’t include Scalls is the one I’m hoping for.

by JockstrapNoah on Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no disagreeing with that

I’m just saying that Scal will more than likely still be getting the least minutes of those 5.

by tuff-gong on Oct 3, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

the way I see it

This is fucked, mainly cos its going to screw up the chemist of the new offensive and defensive development.

New team, new players, new system and one of the key pieces gets injured before they begin, its pretty dam bad, there is NO upside or bright side on this one I’m afraid.

There are temporary solutions and ideas to minimize damage, but this is a crap situation and will take its toll on the teams early schedule, don’t even wanna think about circus trip.

Bulls need to make sure hes fully engaged in training and recovery while hes out, not playing 2K11 with Brewer for 10 weeks.

Taj will do his job, hes a solid replacement.

but, this is about the worst thing that possibly could have happened., personnel wise, this close to the start of the season.

He is our ‘big money acquisition’ this summer and hes not playing basketball. that is shit news, shitty, shitty news.

by mrdope on Oct 3, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I know it's kind of a dumb analogy, given the difference in context...

but I doubt too many Patriot fans thought there was any possible silver lining to Drew Bledsoe’s injury and the subsequent thrusting into action of an unheralded second year player.

I’m not saying Taj Gibson is going to be the next Tom Brady rags to riches story. I just don’t think there’s any reason to preach fire and brimstone on this one.

Probably just trying to stifle my own negativity after that ugly bears game…

by tuff-gong on Oct 3, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will agree

it not ALL fire and brimstone, but its just a shit situation with no upside to it.

We will still have a serviceable team in the short term but it’s just a massive buzz kill to an otherwise exciting off season and will certainly impact the early development of this team in a negative way.

For us to have a chance in the east, luck needed to be on our side a little, the season hasnt even started and luck has given us a wedgie and kicked us in the nuts, leaving us rolling on the floor crying. we are ROFL ROFC

by mrdope on Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

on the bright side guys

this gives us an excuse to lose games on the circus road trip

then we can all come back from it and say boozer was injured and then be motivated by his return

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Oct 3, 2010 10:46 PM CDT reply actions  

So... does Asik get minutes now?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 3, 2010 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Ike Diogu needs to be in a Bulls uniform yesterday.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2010 11:06 PM CDT reply actions  

He is currently in Detroit...

They have 15 guaranteed contracts, so it is very likely he will be cut…

Then, IKE DIOGU needs to be in a Bulls uniform…can someone please email is rate stats to GarPaxDorf?

Can't wait to see Boozer and Rose running pick and roll...err...

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 4, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

He could be a great find for them. Diogu is such a better option at PF than James Johnson.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 4, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for the info

the “procedure sounds fun” boozer should get it every time he so much as twists a ankle…in fact id require it for half the bulls roster….

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Oct 4, 2010 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just read that in a comment on ESPN From a doctor....

He tripped and fell over a bag? I can almost guarantee this is a lie. I am an Emergency Medicine Physician, and I can tell you people don’t break the 5th metacarpal by tripping. You almost always break it with a closed fist. It’s nicknamed a “boxer’s fracture”, almost always happens when an angry person punches a wall. If Boozer injured himself by tripping onto an outstretched hand (we call these “FOOSH” injuries) he would have sprained or broken his wrist, not his 5th metacarpal. His story is a coverup. He likely lost his temper, hit a wall or something else, and broke his hand. He just can’t say that to the press (can you imagine the PR backlash if he told the truth? He’s always been good at lying to the press). Someone at ESPN could break a big story here if they press him on his version of what happened. Maybe there’s trouble at home again.

by 72-10 on Oct 4, 2010 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

The link didn't work for some reason:

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/1747/gibson-a-capable-replacement-for-boozer

From: jp4thejazz (10/4/2010 at 1:05 AM)

I know it’s a Jazz fan, so take it with a grain of salt, but I read up on the injury and it does look like its typically caused by punching.

by 72-10 on Oct 4, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's having surgery...

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Oct 4, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

he tripped over a bag on his way to the door? sounds like a bunch of bs to me.

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by chaucer on Oct 4, 2010 1:05 AM CDT reply actions  

hello 7th seed

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Oct 4, 2010 8:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Dude

No

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Oct 4, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

more the product of irrational thinking

after possibly the worst sports weekend in history

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Oct 4, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Oct 4, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least Julius is still awesome.

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Oct 4, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boozer hurt already? wtf...just what i wanted to hear first thing in the morning

This is the curse of Ben Gordon..lets analyze this for a minute..both players left as free agents when their old teams declined to match what they were offered..then bg stinks it up then pretty much stays injured the rest of the season…i hope thats not the case here or im going to shit in my hand

Tyrus Thomas is really Stromile Swift with a retarded mask on..Think about it Same height, same school, same athletic ability, same sucky ass work ethic, same no real position having retarded statement making fucker. News flash retard. Sloan doesnt like lazy ass jump shooters who have 1 for 17 games. Fuck u stromile.

by drakedog on Oct 4, 2010 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Ugh

The Bears O-line killed Cutler (and some other no-name guy), now this? I hate Sunday

(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...

by T.Moore on Oct 4, 2010 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

AGR33D.

BUT NBA 2k11 & Bulls Preseason tomorrow will bring me some Happiness(HOPE).

by RED_BULL on Oct 4, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather we just keep the doom and gloom in one thread.

Like a toxic waste dump.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 4, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking this thread needs one more of these:

Jeez this sucks!

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Oct 4, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

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