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Bulls 98, Spurs 93: Believing that they believe

Pace Eff eFG FT/FG OREB% TOr
Chicago 90.0 108.9 57.1% 11.5 26.5 18.9
San Antonio 103.3 43.5% 12.9 34.0 10.0

 

The Bulls had a eFG% over 57% Monday night. This follows their weekend wins in which their shooting mark was 54% and 58%.

Before the Spurs game they were at 46% for the season, 3rd worst in the league. It's a bit of a fluke. But it's also the case of Rose getting healthier, and Hinrich/Salmons/Miller returning to their norms. As in, making of for deplorably underperforming starts with some overperforming stretches.

It's been a good time to have it, with 3 great road wins...on the road (emphasis!). Doesn't mean they're great, doesn't mean VDN's a good coach, doesn't mean they can overcome any injury (though Devin Brown helps a bit),  doesn't mean they shouldn't keep max-contract FA room as a top priority. But wins count, and making the playoffs still counts. If Rose and Noah are playing this well, they give some 1st round matchup trouble again, the team maintains its perceptive status as a 'team on the rise', that's a successful season on the floor given their Org. actions from the summer.

That game also showed me that the Bulls themselves care way more than I do in their performance. Noah looked hobbled, Rose looked under the weather, and they opened up the game down 20-8 to a more talented Spurs team. But they fought back and held it close the entire game, one I would've figured they had no chance belonging in. Almost made me wish I believed in this placeholder season as much as they do. As VDN often says, it's a good group of guys. To those who say 'what more can a fan ask?', I'd reply 'a better team that didn't have to try as hard', but the talent level probably isn't changing much this season, so effort is a nice conciliation prize.

And after holding it close, whatever lack of confidence one has in the Org. is wiped away by the confidence in Rose. Gave him the ball and got out of the way. Even when he missed, he collapsed the defense so far that Noah was able to tip it in. As long as its about those two, that's a fun and important game.

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Rose's PER is up to 17.6

and his eFG% and TS% are almost back up to where they were last year.

I am so glad the elephant in the room from earlier in the season is gone (hopefully never to return).

by JeffD on Jan 26, 2010 9:27 AM CST reply actions  

Is there somewhere that

breaks down Rose’s PER into monthly splits?

by kozzer on Jan 26, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Scotter posted a few last season

Not sure if any site regularly publishes this data, but I’m not reading Sports2 forums nearly enough to say for sure.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 26, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Rose now looks completely comfortable

running — indeed dominating — pick and roll plays. only problem is that his pick and pop options are Miller (who made threes!) and Tyrus. Give him a big man pick and roll partner and a spot up three off the penetration (yes, I know, Ben Gordon….yada, yada) and you’ve got something.

What you’ve got is a point guard who can sink his pull up any time he wants and if you come at him can either get to the rim or do these nifty semi-post moves on the fly.

That’s pretty formidable

by RichKarp on Jan 26, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

His floaters are counted as midrange 2s I believe...

I would classify them as a lay up. Also his shooting form has improved dramatically.

I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite

by Super-Structure on Jan 26, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

no, i mean lately he has been shooting all jumpers and they have been going in at a

ridiculous rate. you dont go from lebron james level mdrange shooter to by far the best in the league in a week. so what happens when this well dries up? back to pining for more FTAs i guess.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 26, 2010 11:57 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

What surprised me most is the way they are responding to the adversities

They’re playing with heart and Noah is the best example of that. He showed some difficulties yesterday, but he gave everything he got until the end. Plus, the team is not falling apart anymore when the opponent gets the lead. I think in the third or fourth quarter Manu hit a jumper that put the Spurs in the lead. A mount hot two ago, the Bulls would just start making stupid decisions and taking bad shots. Now they’re fighting back and showing the other team who’s in command of the game. I like it!

Ah! One other thing. The guys seem to be getting along again. According to Sam Smith, they went together to a restaurant after the game. Or do you guys think that this just happen because they’re on the reoad?

They ran off the court together and the locker room was loud and boisterous. They went out together after the game to Mi Tierra, the famous San Antonio Mexican restaurant that is always open and has Christmas lights displayed year ‘round.

Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0

by bull83 on Jan 26, 2010 9:28 AM CST reply actions  

And they seem to be able

to play with leads, too. Which is almost unbelievable considering that they just had the worst home collapse in NBA history just about 5 weeks ago.

by kozzer on Jan 26, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I like that strategy

When the Bulls get punched in the mouth, punch them right back.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 26, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

So who would you move now?

Salmons or Kirk.If Kirk will play like he did yesterday do you keep him or trade him while his value is rising?

General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.

by Azabullsfan on Jan 26, 2010 10:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I hate to lose either one right now.

You are asking the key question that appears to need an answer that I wish we didn’t have to answer. If I had to choose I’d say Salmons. It would kill me if he left and then opted out in July.

by chgobr on Jan 26, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Kirk's not going to play like that all the time. His shot was on, plain and simple.

Though he did play with THRUST!

But since you asked Kirk or Salmons, I’d rather have Kirk around.
Regardless, if you can move either one, do it. Don’t get sucked in by a fun 3 game winning streak.

by M 80 on Jan 26, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

thrust?

WTF!

Packers done...now 3 months of sports hell.

by OznCoop on Jan 26, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Kirk

Devin Brown can push Salmons minutes to the 3 and JJ back to the bench.

I don’t know if Kirk knows he is being shopped, but his last few games have show a very different offensive player. He’s actually shooting when he’s wide open and they’re going in.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 26, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Salmons, by a mile:

otherwise the aquisition of Devin Brown doesn’t help us.

If we were to go Tyrus, Salmons, J. James and #1 for Stat, which seems to be the most reasonable offer, it would leave us both deep and talented.

Rose (38) Hinrich (10)
Hinrich (24) Brown (24)
Deng Johnson
Stat Gibson
Noah Miller

If we trade Hinrich, we’d have to watch Pargo man the point. Blech.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jan 26, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

great

that seems like a great trade, get rid of 3 players not in Bulls long term plans and get to audition Stat for remaining of year while having team that baring injury should make playoffs

by NY Chicago Fan on Jan 26, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Now vs. summer

Question about the cap implications of this trade.

Amare is making 16.7mil this season with a 17 mil player option ala Salmons.
So you’d subtract J James at 6.5 mil Salmons at 5.5 and Tyrus at 4.5 for a total of around 16.5.

Would Amare automatically waive his player option this summer at 17? If not… are the Bulls fine with giving up the chance of a better FA ( LBJ, Wade, Bosh, Joe Johnson) to have a shot at advanving a round or two this years playoffs? Or would it be understood that they’d sign Amare longterm if this trade went down? Or is it a brillant rent a player… let Amare opt out and then use the Amare contract hole plus Brad – to have 28mil under the cap before the new lower cap comes out?

by Jscho316 on Jan 26, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

He will opt out

There are too many teams clearing max contract space and he will command a max contract. The number of teams with max space in the summer of 2011 will be much smaller.

by torch on Jan 26, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Although... if someone thought they had a good chance at Carmelo...

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jan 26, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

mother of god

i think i’d rather have him than Wade.

by M 80 on Jan 26, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

melo would be niccce wit rose

True Story: John Salmons sucks so bad, Tiger Woods wants to meet him

by Belize on Jan 26, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

And has had what

6 previous years of being better than Melo,a nd is on a far worse team as the only guy who can consistently do anything….Beasley can every few games, Jermaine every 10 games….and the rest are 7th men on every team in the league, heck even probably New Jersey….(though Udonis might be a sometime starter as a Taj type-he better than Taj though right now)

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 26, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

If being on a bad team counts against Wade...

…then being on Shaq’s team when he still had something should count for him.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jan 26, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

But Shaq

Didn’t have what he had in Laker-land…by far….he was better than he is now (quite a bit) but hardly a franchise player in Miami….but he drew franchise crowds and had a franchise personality.

I really don’t recall Shaq beating th Mavs….but maybe I’m wrong….It seemed it was all Wade all the time in that series, as it was against the Pistons….the only series that wasn’t as all-Wade was CHicago, where all the other Heater’s Walker, WHite Chocolate and Shaq stepped up as Hinrich was at his peak Wade silencing ways (Wade looked like a mortal).

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 26, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

So does Udonis Haslem. 5 year contract!

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 26, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll see if the cap goes down again

recently, the NBA released revenue figures that show that things are pretty close to last year, and wayyy ahead of projections.

It’ll probably still go down a bit, but perhaps not to the level that people are/were assuming.

by kozzer on Jan 26, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

whoever you can get the best deal for

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

Kirk is still a nice swing option to have and seems comfortable deferring to Rose finally (did you see him run the ball to Rose in the final minute! ha!) while Salmons is obviously a duplication of whatever two-guard they go after…..

May work out that Hinrich’s the one to go, but better off keeping him…

by RichKarp on Jan 26, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

DON'T FALL INTO

THE TRAP!, Hinrich is playing well, but a player like Hinrich its best to trade him while his value is high, before he pisses it away.

by QUINTEN DALEY on Jan 26, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree

Hinrich can be replaced

by Trey23 on Jan 26, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Also agreed

Hinrich is a back up…at 9 mill….too much, there are plenty of decent back ups we can get with heaper contracts

by rick_ross on Jan 26, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

completely agree

the best would be to get rid of both but that would mean more playing time for Pargo and I don’t hate myself enough at this point to live through that.

by diedaily23 on Jan 26, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Kirk

The Bulls have Rose and a backup point guard (combo…whatever) making starter money over the next few seasons. Sure, it would hurt this season, but if they have a chance to shed Kirk’s contract they need to do it.

by hitlesswonder on Jan 26, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Kirk can be a piece, just not the main piece

I do not know of any player that I believe (I do not have statistics to support this) who misses more shots in the last minute of a game than he does. I cannot think of a game winner that he has ever made. Kirk must have made a game-winner but seared on my brain is clank after clank for every big shot he has taken.

Kirk seems to do better when he is not the go-to guy. Whether Gordon and now Rose he needs to be away from the pressure of the primary option. In the role of a piece of the puzzle Kirk can thrive. This is what we are seeing the last three games as Rose has dominated.

by chgobr on Jan 26, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Kirk's

Not really an offensive player…hence he should never really be a go to guy unless circumstances fall like they did last week where the play breaks down and he has a perfect wide open look.

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 26, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Kirk's not supposed to THE go to guy

Too much criticism of a guy who has not whined about being moved to the bench, plays defense and could start at one of the other either guard positions for over half of the NBA if he was put their roster without loss of any starters.

by Noe_Valley on Jan 26, 2010 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

and

he has a PER of 10 and makes 9+ million a year for how many more years?

by silentpete on Jan 26, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I was trying to deflect the criticism

I like Kirk….he’s a luxury that we can’t really afford, but i like him nevertheless. I think he’s far better than his rep on here….and now that we’re using him a bit more as a secondary PG (because he is a PG) he’s playing much better.

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 26, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Trade them both?

For expirings?

I drink your MILKSHAKE! I DRINK IT UP!

by SoulEater7 on Jan 26, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

who would play sg then?

exactly. You swear during game threads enough already.

by diedaily23 on Jan 26, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

well they'd need to get a sg back.

Devin Brown could start. Or then maybe deal Hinirch in the summer.

I drink your MILKSHAKE! I DRINK IT UP!

by SoulEater7 on Jan 26, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Devin Brown

I’ve been reading (here and elsewhere) about how the Bulls can afford to deal Hinrich and Salmons because they now have Devin Brown. I would like to save these posts for review once Devin Brown starts playing for us because Devin Brown sucks. He hit a bunch of 3s on us and that’s about it. He is an NBA journeyman who should get only spot minutes on a good team. Put another way, if Devin Brown is in your starting lineup, you have a serious problem. That’s not to say that he should never play or that he can’t be productive, but penciling him in as a starter means that this team is missing the playoffs.

by Stay Chisel on Jan 26, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

i think it's one or the other

and Brown backs up whoever’s still here. i’d assume the Bulls would prefer to move Salmons, keep Kirk in the starting 5, and Brown backs him up and plays alongside him when Kirk is playing PG, as well as some minutes at SF.

by M 80 on Jan 26, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

That's the way I'd want it

I don’t think the Bulls traded for Brown for him to start. Rotation player? Yeah probably.

by kozzer on Jan 26, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

"wrath of posters"

They traded a guy who never plays for him, salaries were about equal, and he fits a need. Why would anyone be upset when he plays?

by kozzer on Jan 26, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right,

I keep thinking this is a website for Bulls fans. Silly me.

by kozzer on Jan 26, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Q. Who is better than Jannero Pargo and Lindsey Hunter as a back up guard?

A. Devin Brown.

devin brown is no answer for anything

We miss you, Ben Gordon!

by Granny Waiters on Jan 26, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

he wouldn't have to start if just one of Salmons/Hinrich is traded

Brown’s better than Pargo, I think that’s all anyone has projected in his favor.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Deng

Sell him on a high, get some decent value for him and half of his salary in an expiring….work with Salmons on a 2-3 year extention for $4.5M/per, and save the additional room.

Keep Kirk’s thrust and wait until maybe after 2010 FA to trade Kirk for something resembling value and move forward.

Luol’s good, but games like yesterday (where he wallows in the shadows and seems to forget he’s supposed to play) are reasons enough to get rid of him if we can, we aren’t investing him in as our future already and well he’s good and might be able to do more elsewhere, he won’t do materially more, is at a great age to be traded and might be the ticket we need to fix the mess…

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 26, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I also was wondering where Deng was yesterday

But then I figured with Kirk and Rose taking all those shots, someone is going to get left out. He did have 9 boards though.

by Trey23 on Jan 26, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

he also had a basket at 3:27 to tie the game

and a basket at 2:19, giving the bulls a two point lead… if you’re “wondering”.

"Let's do some living... after we die"

by marionette on Jan 26, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw those

I like Deng, but definitely don’t think he’s not replacable especially seeing as he is in probably the most vital position these days….

He’s on my fantasy team….and I guess I’m miffed at his freaking low score….but I know Kirk and Rose were taking the shots, I also didn’t see Deng moving esp in Q2 nad Q3 when those guys relatively cooled off…I kind of forgot about Luol…

Deng’s solid, worth his contract (not more maybe less but not far off if not worth), but I think his value will dip as he gets older and as we get a max guy….and why not trade him now while his value’s high again, and he’s young, and well….we need to make a trade….

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 26, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Deng

didnt look good handling the ball against the spurs….looked really shaky for some reason

by rick_ross on Jan 26, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Umm…because his ball handling has always sucked. It’s never improved in his 6 years in the league. Still looks like a giraffe out there while dribbling

by C Smoove on Jan 27, 2010 9:28 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Just like

How Tyrus would rather take 20 foot jumpshots than take a 1 inch dunk. For the 4 years that he was here.

by T.Moore on Jan 27, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

never thought id say this

but let’s keep kurt around and include salmons in any potential Amare deals or just dump him. if they want deng, give them deng.

if they want kurt, give them kurt.

depending on who we trade, that should be the summer FA target (lebron if we trade deng, wade if we trade kurt).

bottom line, i wouldn’t dump either deng or kurt right now. i would def include them though in a deal for equivalent or superior talent.

"4 inches, baby!" --ripped off from Kush

by anorexorcist on Jan 26, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

oh man, remember how crappy kurt was for , like, the first 20 games. hes the greater financial

burden for the bulls and if they can move him for anything i hope they do it.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 26, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

...to a more talented Spurs team. Maybe that's the flaw in the assumption.

…a better team that didn’t have to try as hard. (hmmm. so the better one is the less hard he need play…like Kobe. no wait…)

by hlac on Jan 26, 2010 12:04 PM CST reply actions  

Except the Spurs are not the elite team of the past few years that just shrugs off games and still wins 55 like clockwork.

They were struggling as well, and this is a huge homestand for them before their long road trip. The Spurs made several runs, and the Bulls were still able to come out on top. For a team that had looked so depressing a month ago and a coach on his way out the door, I’m very impressed with what’s happening.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 26, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

First point

that the Bulls are, in fact, better than the Spurs.

by hlac on Jan 26, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I really can't argue with someone who actually thinks that. But ok.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 26, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, at least that 'explanation' was in english

even if it was wrong.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

only 14 more wins left

this season before the bulls top out at 35

"Let's do some living... after we die"

by marionette on Jan 26, 2010 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

dont forget the 30 to 32 win prediction

by jeff van gundy and Carol Slezak. That article was 3 weeks ago…. yikes.
In that article Van Gundy and Slezak didnt say they will only win 30ish because Rose is gonna go down in with injury… they had them at 30wins, healthy…3 weeks ago.

by Jscho316 on Jan 26, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

that's it. they forced van gundy into the suns' gorilla suit

now force him to call the bulls games remaining on espn!

i enjoy his commentary.

"Let's do some living... after we die"

by marionette on Jan 26, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

solid win

wish they rest noah till he gets better…even if its till the playoffs

True Story: John Salmons sucks so bad, Tiger Woods wants to meet him

by Belize on Jan 26, 2010 3:18 PM CST reply actions  

I am sky high

After the LA and GS losses I was like eff this team.

They key is Rose’s development into a major ass-kicker. When you have a alpha dog, the rest of the pack just plays so much easier. All they have to do is support, and when called on, do your thing. (Deng over Duncan with 2 minutes left, putbacks by Noah and Taj)

Even flawed wolves like Kirk, Deng, and Jab-Step Salmons can run with the pack.

Our team D is so much better, too. The Bigs are showing on pick and rolls properly, (can’t remember last time one of em bumped into the dribbler for a dumb foul) We lead the league in Blocked shots, too.

by Trey23 on Jan 26, 2010 3:39 PM CST reply actions  

Kirk still needs to go. We need that savings…we can get a Mike Harris from D-League to back up Rose.

by C Smoove on Jan 26, 2010 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

D-League

scouting, notify the Bulls the D-League does exist

by QUINTEN DALEY on Jan 26, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

According to Mike McGraw

the Bulls were prepared to offer a 10 day contract to Sundiata Gaines before the Jazz beat them to it.

We’ve got scouts in the DLeague which means the Berto Center might have Versus Channel on the cable package.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 26, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

CP3 to Gray

Can’t wait to see an alley-oop from Paul to Gray

by trig on Jan 26, 2010 3:57 PM CST reply actions  

Dude...

CP3 is not a miracle worker.

by T.Moore on Jan 26, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Gray and cp3

will be the next ….,…….umm ……..yer i got nothing

by rick_ross on Jan 26, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

What do you guys think Parker, Manu, and Duncan have left?

They may be ousted in the first round, similar to how we did Miami.
They seemed real old last night. I know they will turn it on for the playoffs, but still.

Can they beat Denver or the Lakers?

Would the Spurs consider trading them this summer if they lose in the playoffs. Get something for them before they are really over the hill.

by Trey23 on Jan 26, 2010 4:48 PM CST reply actions  

i picked the spurs to challenge the lakers

not ‘cause they added jefferson (do not like!), but for blair, hill, mason jr. and bonner. plus their main guys aren’t that ancient yet (i think it was ozzie wrote duncan has a 27 PER?), just rather un-athletic.

this was just three games, but one thing i do know is suns fans were marveling at our athleticism as much as bemoaning the loss of theirs. it’s why i don’t get worked up about the mythical low post scorer, the one that could mean a loss of team speed and quickness. or like dumping tyrus for a bag of beans.

the spurs also have always had a bit of a weakness in defending midrange shooting, the very thing the bulls did well. they usually pick it up around this time of year and are currently only as “bad” as #6 in the west. they went all in for this year, so they won’t be breaking anything up. we shall see if they have enough, because they’re built for the playoffs and they have time until then to turn around their defense.

"Let's do some living... after we die"

by marionette on Jan 26, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree because it's Duncan, Duncan and Duncan

Spurs are built around Tim Duncan. They’ve been a good team, a well run team but always depending one of the best PF/C ever to play in the NBA.

Spurs will continue rely on Duncan as long as they can. Maybe Manu has to resign for much less so they can add help or maybe he’ll walk for more money. They might attract an aging veteran or two to sign and play for a title in 2010-2011.

Clippers somewhat unpopular Corey Maggette would have been a good mid-level exception pickup 2 summers ago but Chris Mullin threw a 50M/5Yr contract at him.

by Noe_Valley on Jan 26, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

They always have a chance, and the West is a crapshoot outside of LA.

SA’s defense has taken a really shocking fall. It’s pretty odd to see young teams killing the Spurs on the pick and roll, but teams can’t stay elite forever. I think the main problem is that Manu just can’t be relied on to pick up the slack all the time, and Richard Jefferson is really, really bad.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 26, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Funnny

THing is sure the Spurs don’t look like we’re used to but it’s Richard Jefferson that really looks old.

Duncan had an off night.

Manu’s been old for what 3 years now, having never really fully recovered from that ankle injury that he worsened in the Olympics—funny cuz Noc never fully recovered from that knee injury he suffered in the same Olympics….

But if RJ can figure out his game with Duncan and Parker they could do something….it’s odd how bad RJ has been. He was always a shade over rated, but he’s gone from a decent player who was thought to be much much more to a TERRIBLE player who is regarded now as such seemingly overnight….

Duncan’s been solid all year (I know he’s on my fantasy and perhaps had his worst game of the year yesterday), Parker’s been down this year but is still dangerous and ain’t young (I think his games been hurt because RJ has been so terrible a fit for them) and well Manu’s a guy who still can be deadly every few games…and at least has to be covered….

They aren’t what I thought they were going to be to start the year, but they are a pretty good team (probably Atlanta Hawksish if they were in the East—or KG less Celtics), either way that was a nice win against a team that is even at this stage better than us.

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 26, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

If you're talkin about any of those three comin to the Bulls....

Duncan: Hell Yes!! Parker and Manu: not so much.

"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta

by The Red Menace on Jan 26, 2010 4:51 PM CST reply actions  

Duncan

at 45 will be hell better than TT or TAJ at there peak

by rick_ross on Jan 26, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh no, I wasn't advicating trading for them

Just wondering if they would trade any of them.

Go read 48minutesofHell.com and watch their posters go off after losing 5 of 6. Its fun.

by Trey23 on Jan 26, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

They were really smart with that blog name

When they suck, it just applies to the fans instead of the opposing team. ;)

by wjb1492 on Jan 26, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

wendy, you're on a roll!

"Let's do some living... after we die"

by marionette on Jan 26, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Shorter YFBB

“The Bulls still haven’t replicated their 6 time championship roster so it’s disappointing this team has to work so hard to win road games.”

by Noe_Valley on Jan 26, 2010 5:42 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Your Dr. Manhattan-esque ability to vanquish foes is getting boring.

Keep the trolls!

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 27, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

that was my first in a while!

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 27, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

while i too side with the trolls
I can’t have any more wins sullied by your jerkass

it is good to see you (still) care (about bulls wins).

"Let's do some living... after we die"

by marionette on Jan 27, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm watching John Wall and

I’ve heard how’s better prospect than Rose. Does anyone know if it’s true? Because I guess I’m not seeing it.

by Dils on Jan 26, 2010 8:57 PM CST reply actions  

OT

fanshot plzzzz

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

"But it's also the case of Rose getting healthier, and Hinrich/Salmons/Miller returning to their norms."

Yeah, they couldn’t be this bad all year. Well Miller I’m surprised by because he really looked done, not just off. It’s a welcome site to have a watchable team right now.

Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."

by bigballa10 on Jan 26, 2010 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

Every time Miller makes a 3-pointer, I get off. It looks soooo good.

by Dash2112 on Jan 26, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

D-Rose ala Jordan with the flu game

With the way the Bulls are playing and given San Antonios’ defensive woes, this victory was sweet, but not surprising. I knew the Bulls would pull of the victory. I’m a little worried about OKC, they spoiled our three game winning streak earlier this month @ the UC, time for a little payback methinks.

J.M.A

by Bullsarenumber1 on Jan 26, 2010 10:43 PM CST reply actions  

D-Rose now a three-point threat!

Oh that’s right, I almost forgot. That three pointer that D-Rose shot with confidence, that right there made my insides feel warm. Just shot it with all the confidence in the world. Maybe that three he made in Phoenix made him realize that he should take more. By all means D-Rose, go for it.

J.M.A

by Bullsarenumber1 on Jan 26, 2010 11:06 PM CST reply actions  

Just to let everyone know

i take full credit for this 3 game win streak. If it wasn’t for me sitting through a horrible game against GS and getting ridiculed by Warrior fans, karma would not be at an all time high.

You all can thank me later.

True Story: John Salmons sucks so bad, Tiger Woods wants to meet him

by Belize on Jan 26, 2010 11:44 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

i disagree on the picture caption yfbb.

i think noah is about to cold cock blair and taj is saying, “Ooo, watch your head there.” —Because thats the kind of special player taj is.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 27, 2010 2:17 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks. :)

Not to mention that JJ is the 16th pick and Taj the 26th!! Ridiculous!

by BAB-Bass on Jan 27, 2010 1:36 PM CST reply actions  

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