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Bulls 96, Celtics 83: they can play with this team (as long as Garnett isn't there)

Pace Eff eFG FT/FG OREB% TOr
Chicago 88.0 109.1 46.4% 21.4 33.3 13.6
Boston 94.3 47.9% 21.1 20.5 17.0

disclaimer: I missed the 3rd quarter due to DVR issues.

I laughed earlier this week when Taj Gibson referred to Bulls-Celtics as a 'rivalry' he was now a part of. As far as where both teams are really at, it's more that the Bulls think it's a rivalry...but the Celtics, being much better, don't.

But maybe for that reason alone, the Bulls can play up to the Celtics...as long as Kevin Garnett isn't on the court. Garnett is obviously the anchor of the Celtics world-class defense, but it's even more than that: I think when they see the braying jackass (any surprise he won this designation?) the Bulls completely lose any confidence, thus the many times the Garnett-led Celtics have absolutely destroyed the Bulls in the past couple seasons. I normally don't believe such things make that much of a difference, but there has to be some ancillary reason the Bulls go from being 20 points worse than the Celtics to an even matchup. Or a 13-point victory.

A victory in which the Bulls led nearly the whole game, even with Derrick Rose out much of the first half due to foul trouble. With the Celtics smaller (or Scalabrine-ier) than normal, the Bulls were able to absolutely dominate the offensive glass, as well as exploit Boston's propensity (Garnett or not) to turnovers. Taj Gibson made some great plays in the 4th and finished with 2 steals and 2 blocks, and Tyrus Thomas had 4 steals in 17 minutes (though way too many missed layups). Everyone contributed to a pretty stout defense tonight, and one that's now a top-10 unit in the league.

(Offensive shout-outs: Rose closing in the 4th, Kirk Hinrich hitting two layups to end the first half, Luol Deng got to the line 10 times. Noah was 7-8 from the line - did Davis actually intentionally foul him there like he was some free throw waste like Rondo? - and was showing off the short hook.)

Hopefully tonight  was not just feeling up to playing their 'rivals', but they can get some sustained belief they can win on the road, as after tomorrow's sure-to-be-letdown-game against the messed-up Wizards (it's begging for it, right?) a long road trip awaits. While still getting too many losses to believe they're that much better, being healthy and using the new rotation (whether it contributed to Kirk/Salmons playing better or not) has the team better prepared than the first trip out West.

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rivarly

it may or may not be an actual rivalry, but over the past couple years I know i’ve grown to hate the celtics

"It’s the same approach as in batting practice," Stairs said. "I try to hit every ball as far as I can."

by Matt Stairsmaster on Jan 14, 2010 11:55 PM CST reply actions  

Then enjoy this hillarious column.
Weary Celtics end busy stretch with home loss to Bulls

By Jim Fenton
gatehouse news service

Life in the NBA means dealing with hectic, jammed-packed schedules at various points during the six-month regular season.

Games come fast and furious with little time for rest, legs become weary, and sloppy play becomes the result.

Trying to survive six games in a nine-day period is an example of an overbooked schedule, especially when four of those games are on the road.

That is what the Boston Celtics had to deal with beginning a week ago Wednesday night in Miami and ending on Thursday night at the TD Garden.

They had two sets of back-to-back games this week alone, and given what occurred in the finale of the rough patch on the schedule, the grind took its toll.

Trying to stay afloat with three of their top seven rotation players sidelined with injuries, the Celtics look like a team in need of a break.

They were a step slow against the Chicago Bulls in a nationally televised matchup at the Garden, playing catch up all night long before dropping a 96-83 decision.

Boo F’N Hoo.

by Noe_Valley on Jan 15, 2010 1:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought it was the Rockets

Adelman went public with his complaints.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2010 7:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the bulls have the most total

but the Rockets had a ridiculas stretch where they had like 2 back to backs a week for a month.

by silentpete on Jan 15, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the Bulls do too

I heard that this summer with like 23 or something.

I think Adelman went public because they had a string of them in like a 3 week period that was ridiculous. But I’m fairly certain ESPN or something had the Bulls witht he most….which is odd for at eam that ESPN and the league were pumping as up and coming, etc, but young, to give them all the back to backs, doesn’t seem a smart marketing move….

Course probably wouldn’t matter….as we always start off crappy every frickin year then get mildy respectable (or in last year’s case, pretty darn good for US), by year end.

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 15, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

well very few teams will do well in the last game of 4 games in 5 nights.

especially when their best player is out and they’re short on depth.

i’m happy the Bulls won, but i take very little from this win.

by M 80 on Jan 15, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Champions don't whine or make excuses.

Granted,Docrivers didn’tmake much of an excuse for the loss but Ihave never seen such a long list of excuses – it read as if the Bulls sucker punched the Celtics athome and had them playing in their pajamas.

by Noe_Valley on Jan 15, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Well

the bulls came into their house and stolen their Plasma TV, and their manhood as well. Not that they had manhood to begin with.

by T.Moore on Jan 15, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

They were good last year without

If I recall correctly they still had a .700 winning percentage.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2010 7:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Win differential dropped by like 8 points or something though

then they were so great in the playoffs :P

Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!

by Prevenge on Jan 15, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

They still took a very hot

Orlando team to 7 games….they likely would have made a legitimate series if not a win against Cleveland too….

It’s not like Orlando routed them to a 4-1 series win, and it’s not like the old C’s were well rested coming into that series—as that does play a factor.

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 15, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

I didn’t know that Rose is 5th in the NBA in scoring in the 4th quarter.

by T.Moore on Jan 15, 2010 12:08 AM CST reply actions  

And...

First in scoring among second year players!

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Jan 15, 2010 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

Why don’t we hear that?

Oh that’s right, we have Neil and Stacey…

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 15, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

suprising

how is oj mayo doing? Isnt he supposed to be a prolific scorer?? (btw i think hes larry hughes…without the defense….)

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Jan 15, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh

You might be right. I know I was scouting him in fantasy and he wasn’t really giving major pts etc, so I stopped scouting him….but that’s overall fantasy pts.

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 15, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

did anyone hear TNT's recap?

All Chuck said was Rose didn’t have enough assists. Maybe it was because he was too busy burning your guy Rajon?

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Rondo also played 11 more minutes and shot terrible from the FT line as usual.

by Camry on Jan 15, 2010 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

enough assists for what? the win?

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 15, 2010 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

dude I don't know.

He’s a dumb ass.

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 12:45 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I really think he has some kind of bias here not sure

by Camry on Jan 15, 2010 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Kenny too.

Maybe it was our dominance during their time. Who knows.

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I wasn’t aware of that either. That’s a good sign for him going forward I hope.

Fan of the Chicago Cash Cows formerly known as the Bulls

by bigballa10 on Jan 15, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

As said in Pulp Fiction...

Lets not start sucking each others….just yet. That was the Celtics fourth game in five nights with a depleted roster.

by Ayeljay54 on Jan 15, 2010 12:09 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

It doesn't matter,

a win is win, nobody feels sorry for the Celtics

by QUINTEN DALEY on Jan 15, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

No one gave the bulls any sympathy when Rose was playing hurt or when Kurt and TT were out with injuries.

The Bulls are 7-3 over their last ten games and are playing well. Let’s enjoy it for a while without looking for excuses to feel bad about our wins.

by patagonia on Jan 15, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

i needed this win

garnett or not. my ego is way over here right now

True Story: John Salmons sucks so bad, Tiger Woods wants to meet him

by Belize on Jan 15, 2010 12:16 AM CST reply actions  

And no Rose for the 1st half

Great calls in the first 24 minutes NBA referees. Stellar officiating.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2010 12:19 AM CST reply actions  

They made calls

as though they were NBA refs.

Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!

by Prevenge on Jan 15, 2010 12:37 AM CST up reply actions  

the one call i jumped out of chair at

was Rose’s 3rd personal with 8min to go in 2nd. He drove to the right side of the rim for a floater layup and Big Baby came over to take the charge…. except he jumped to block the ball ( his feet were off the ground before the contact from Rose). They called a charge… not a push off with Roses other arm of aynthing.

I know the Bulls were up 8 at the time …. but there are times coaches are supposed to protect their best player from getting BS calls… and that was one.

by Jscho316 on Jan 15, 2010 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Total BS

I saw that one too. Rose seems to pile up questionable charge calls… whats up with that? He always jumps to one side of the defender, not straight into their chest, yet he gets called for charges.

by JockstrapNoah on Jan 15, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

IMO, a defender has to take the contact in the chest

for a charge, if an offensive player is trying to avoid contact by jumping to the side, it should be a block or non-call

by QUINTEN DALEY on Jan 15, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Did you see the charge Scalibrine tried to take in the thrid quarter around the 8 second line?

His legs were spread so wide he could have given birth, yet Doug and Harlan were saying it could have been a charge. BS.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.

by dakoose on Jan 15, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

And Rose

Instantly started yelling because it would have been what the 3rd crap Charge call against him….then when he learned they called it right for once, he stopped…

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 15, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

That was an awful call

But the closest official did make it.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup. That call sucked.

I guess the refs were so impressed that fat piece of shit can get off the floor they felt they had to reward him for it.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.

by dakoose on Jan 15, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Was ridiculous call, fat slob jumped in front of rose plain as day and then rose gets called for charge…

I also hated Rondo getting so many phantom calls his way.

by HeXDeMoN on Jan 15, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

bad call. ive never seen anyone take a charge in midair.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 15, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Not a season-changer like Collins waxed on about for 10 minutes.

But, it was a fun win against a tired team. Gotta love Taj Gibson playing some great full-court defense, shutting down Paul Pierce, yet somehow getting burnt twice by Brian Scalabrine.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 15, 2010 12:20 AM CST reply actions  

the Bulls cannot have a season-changing game

they’re .500 to their bones, so they’ll lose as many as they win. If they beat a team they shouldn’t, just means they’ll lose to a team they should beat later. Maybe tonight, for all we know.

Not that it wasn’t a good win though.

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

and .500 is the 5th seed in the East!

Doc Rivers pointed out,correctly I think, that the Bulls will get better if they avoid injury and play as a unit. That couldbe enoughofa edge toget them tothe 5th seed and an entertaining1st round series.

by Noe_Valley on Jan 15, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Who noticed the new defense applied to Rondo?

Copy and paste of the Magic approach from last year’s playoffs.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2010 12:21 AM CST reply actions  

whats that stop his penetration?

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, and more

Go under all the screens. Freeze him at the FT line where he has to make a decision: shoot it, force a pass, stop his dribble, pull back out to the perimeter, or force a drive for a bad shot.

We forced at least 5 shot clock violations on the Celtics. They had another half dozen shots thrown at the rim to beat the clock.

If there are numbers that show how many seconds were remaining on the shot clock when the Celtics either put up their shots or the clock expired I think you’ll see that the Bulls played this aspect of the game the best they have all season.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2010 7:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry to get off topic but did anyone just see LeBron get his own rebound, take two steps backwards..

and hit a go ahead three on the Jazz? Nice big travel with no call. Whats going on with these refs I never thought they could get worse.

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 12:32 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

The bad part to me was boozer lightly tapped Lebron and Lebron fell over they called a foul. Then on the next trip Lebron elbowed the defender in the chest and they called the foul on the defender. |:

by Camry on Jan 15, 2010 12:33 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

boozer elbowed lebron in the face with his right arm.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 15, 2010 12:36 AM CST up reply actions  

It was a love elbow.

Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!

by Prevenge on Jan 15, 2010 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you joking?

I really don’t know at 1:21 remaining his elbow is no where near his face its at his lower back he touched him and Lebron flopped. Then it was Lebron on the other end who almost hit someone in the face.

by Camry on Jan 15, 2010 12:52 AM CST up reply actions  

well, you obviously have dvr so i guess i cant argue. but i originally thought it was called

on matthews, so i thought it was a bad call. when i learned it was on boozer i focused on him during the replay and i thought i saw him elbow james in the jaw.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 15, 2010 1:09 AM CST up reply actions  

He didn't travel

I watched it like 3 times, he took one step back.

by Stacey_Is_King on Jan 15, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that was b.s.

As blatant a travel as you’ll see

Fan of the Chicago Cash Cows formerly known as the Bulls

by bigballa10 on Jan 15, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Lebitch

Always travels blatently and the NEVER call it.

by T.Moore on Jan 15, 2010 11:51 PM CST up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT!

ANYONE WATCH THE JAZZ GAME?

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 12:39 AM CST reply actions  

I just called that shot!

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 12:40 AM CST up reply actions  

this guy Gains just got called up from the D-League!

and beat LeBron’s Cavs!

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 12:43 AM CST up reply actions  

What they actually won?
I turned it off when Lebron hit that three gotta rewind now…

by Camry on Jan 15, 2010 12:52 AM CST up reply actions  

so did I!

I was rooting for the Jazz but my gf kept watching it.I came back in after Z’s free throw. I said to her man that would be awesome if that D-Leaguer hit a three to win. He did I went crazy just like the Utah fans! lol

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

what did he say?

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 15, 2010 1:10 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

He spoke in a different language. Fist up.

Said we’re praying for everyone in Haiti and that we don’t realize how good we have it or how privileged. From what I recall.

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I caught that too

I love that he still has some perspective.

by runningman on Jan 15, 2010 1:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah sometimes you get the feeling before it happens I didn’t see it coming at all. You’d think they wouldn’t of had Lebron inbounding it all those times so he could go to the FT line.

(Cleveland defended great too….no idea who Gaines is)

by Camry on Jan 15, 2010 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Holy shit

I’m in the same boat as you. I turned it off after Lebron’s second 3. Then after reading this, I ran to the DVR rewound all the way, and had just enough to catch the last 40 seconds. What a finish! You also gotta love the Jazz fans for how they were behind Sundiata the whole time, even after Moe pressured him into the turnovers. Does he still have the confidence to take that shot if they were booing him?

by runningman on Jan 15, 2010 1:27 AM CST up reply actions  

It's kinda funny because I was watching that story on him about getting the call up to the Jazz.

Not sure where I saw the video maybe NBA.com? He reminded me of like Chauncy Billups/Mo Williams mixed. He played really well for them. I also noticed in the video when he got called up former Bull Cedric Simmons in the back ground.

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 1:36 AM CST up reply actions  

The best part?

After the winning 3, Ledouche turned and quickly walked off the court, up the tunnel.

He was just running into guys the whole night, and getting calls.

by Trey23 on Jan 15, 2010 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

so were the jazz. they won the ft battle 38-35, though it was really more

like 38-29 b/c the jazz were intentionally fouling. lebron got calls because he was faster than the defenders, you know, because he is the best athlete in basketball.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 15, 2010 3:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Good work Bulls!

Keep beating the angry old men down. I like it.

Both you and the Jazz winning, I’m happy.

In Bayless I trust.
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by staylost on Jan 15, 2010 1:27 AM CST reply actions  

Starters shot 32-59, 54%

All 4 of Rose’s assists were in the 4th.

Horrendous officiating, esp in the first half.

Eddie House needs to be slapped, again.

by Trey23 on Jan 15, 2010 1:46 AM CST reply actions  

About the refs.

I went to the Celtics blog and found this gem.

Lol
We are NOT gonna blame this on the refs ! Really, they called a few head-scratchers for the Cs tonight, if anything…..

Even they noticed.

why is there an asshole on my wheaties box?

by SoulEater7 on Jan 15, 2010 2:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Is there a boos shortage in Bean Town?

Maybe it’s hard to drink heavily 4 of 5 nights.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2010 7:25 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I loved Rose getting 8 boards this game

he was really in their battling.

I also liked:

- Kirk in the starting line up has provided a big help. When Rose doesn’t have it going, Hinrich can settle the team down and get them in their sets. Plus his shooting has improved from dismal to acceptable and he does a good job of feeding Taj and Noah, who can’t create for themselves. You really need dual point guards when your big men struggle to create like the Bulls big men do.

- Deng getting to the line. He owned Pierce today. You gotta love that. And he was beating the Celtic defenders off the dribble.

- Taj played really smart ball. Got his hands on a few passes and generally played good D. He, Noah and Tyrus challenging shots gives us a great chance.

What I hated

- i really hate Brian Scalabrine. I don’t understand why that douche is a fan favorite. Well I do – he is white and looks like Opie. But really. The guy is just a poor b-ball player. And its not like he is a hustle player, he looks completely out of shape. I don’t really see what he brings to the court, but if Doc Rivers wants to keep using him as an in-game mascot, who I am to complain. Even if I just did.

- Tyrus Thomas, please dunk the ball.

- Pargo. The guy is absolutely brutal. Any time he is playing the point I have to shake my head. The guy just doesn’t pass

- Rondo’s body. Will someone please test that guy for HGH or steroids? I haven’t seen that type of muscle growth since Barry Bonds.

by Basketball Smurf on Jan 15, 2010 1:54 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

Tyrus Thomas...

If you are not going to dunk the ball…please pass the ball to the open man.

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Jan 15, 2010 2:00 AM CST up reply actions  

i havent seen the dunk turned layup yet

but my brother said that even the tnt crew said “oh watch out!!” when he jumped up in the air like he was gonna posterize someone (forget who) and then suddenly out of nowhere (when he clearly couldve dunked it) he decided to alter and fidget his shot into a difficult layup….its like when u play 2k10 and you go for a dunk with rose, but u decide u want to do a cool reverse layup and completely botch it…or so thats what i imagined it looked like…

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Jan 15, 2010 2:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Thomas

Was fantastic, active…didn’t get the calls on some of those put back tries, but most of his shots came from ridiculous rebounding in traffic. I liked him being aggressive. Had he passed it it would have been a TO, and most of those shots were hard enough to get off….as it was.

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 15, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Fantastic? Really?

The Tyrus-love around here knows no bounds

by BAB-Bass on Jan 15, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

He was all

Over the place on the court when he was out there, attacking for steals, tips, grabbing boards, etc.

Sure he missed the shots, but they were all around the rim.

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 15, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

He played fantastic defense, and didn't make any layups.

Apparently if you’re a 24 year old rookie from USC, that is called “playing smart and with poise.”

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 15, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Come on, man

How can some of you guys hate Luol Deng?

by JustAnotherFan on Jan 15, 2010 5:56 AM CST reply actions  

Top ten D...

sounds impressive, but if your team is 10th, that means you’re only in the top 33rd percentile. I’ll be impressed if we make top 5! That said, it was a great defensive effort last night, and there has been a marked improvement on Defense. The team deserves props for that. Now they just need to get even better.

by 72-10 on Jan 15, 2010 7:37 AM CST reply actions  

You mean 67th percentile?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jan 15, 2010 7:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Okay, I just always thought it was the other way.

Like, if you’re better than 90% of the people at something, then you’re in the 90th percentile. Obviously, wikipedia could be wrong or I’m just having a complete reading comprehension fail:

For example, a test score which is greater than 75% of the scores of people taking the test is said to be at the 75th percentile.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jan 15, 2010 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

So if your defense is ranked ahead of 20 of the teams (or 66.666666), then....

But as previously stated, I’m no math wiz.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Jan 15, 2010 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

He said 'The top 33rd', not 'the 33rd'.

It’s odd wording.

Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!

by Prevenge on Jan 15, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

you're right

the proper way of putting it is in the 67th percentile…. I guess it’s been a while since I’ve taken standardized tests! I usually don’t use that kind of terminology.

To my original point, If top 10 D = 17-20 record, then they better become a top 5 team if they want to make the playoffs.

by 72-10 on Jan 15, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Top ten D

doesn’t equal 17-20 record. The Bulls D was worse during their losses, and better early in the season and recently.

Also, they currently sit 7th in defensive efficiency which puts them at the 77th percentile, so they’re closer to 5th than to 10th.

It’s their offensive efficiency which needs to improve, and would have a much bigger impact than moving up two spots in defense.

by runningman on Jan 15, 2010 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Guess you were right, Tyger

I always thought being in the 5th percentile meant you’re in the top 5 percent of your class. In my defence, it’s been a while since I had any math class… ;)

by BAB-Bass on Jan 15, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

The Bulls are already at least top-10, statistically

4th in OPP FG%
4th in OPP 3PT FG%
7th in OPP eFG%
9th in DEF REB %
4th in FT/FGA

by kozzer on Jan 15, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

that's actually a bit alarming.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

so not only do they foul rarely but they foul the right people.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 15, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

ugh. "they also" instead of "but they"

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 15, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure some of that is random luck

but it probably also means the Bulls are not fouling shooters, or out on the perimeter.

That’s pretty good, as not only would those get made more often, the Bulls thin rotation can’t afford foul trouble.

by runningman on Jan 15, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

last year they were 18th, so it is impressive

Basically they NEED to be top-10 since their offense will be bottom-5.

I have to make a longer post about this, but I wonder if (weirdly, and a bit sadly) that just being improved defensively has the Bulls ga-ga over VDN, since they stress defense so much that Gar Foreman still mentions it first even with an abysmal offensive team.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Some of you guys said that...

Its more fun watching Tyrus over Taj, that may be true

BUT until Tyrus DUNKS the ball EVERY CHANCE HE GETS, its not going to be fun. It’s a love hate thing with him.

by T.Moore on Jan 15, 2010 10:06 AM CST reply actions  

if the Celtcs didnt have KG

Then they would be slightly better than us. slightly

by T.Moore on Jan 15, 2010 10:20 AM CST reply actions  

Some Dude playing with Pierce and Allen.

Replace KG, and not sit him out injured, the Celtics would have mucho cap space for a servicable PF (with Leon Powe as a sub).

by Noe_Valley on Jan 15, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

opposing view

CelticsHub:

Doug Collins mentioned early on that Doc had warned the C’s that they’d have to defend 50 screen/rolls involving Derrick Rose. Here’s the thing about Chicago tonight: When they ran straight screen/rolls against a set Celtics defense, they had trouble getting good looks. Allow the C’s to get organized into their bread-and-butter screen/roll defense—Rondo chasing over the pick, the screener’s guy sliding over to help and everyone else rotating—and good looks will be hard to find.

When the Bulls improvised, or when the ball went up on the glass? That’s when they scored.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2010 10:51 AM CST reply actions  

Is it just me

or did our bigs last night all change ends in a full sprint on every DREB?

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Great observation....I think that's one of the best ways to capitalize on a fatigued team

Given how much we run pick/rolls…I think having their front court players first haul ass to get back on D and then help as aggressively as the Celts do in their half court defense made them more susceptible to poor defensive rebounding (not enough energy for a full possession).

"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan

by PeteRoc on Jan 15, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I noticed that too

No matter who rebounded the ball, they were sprinting upcourt as soon as it touched their hand. This resulted in Tyrus, Taj, and Noah all dribbling the ball past halfcourt on multiple posessions, and those posessions almost all resulted in points.

by runningman on Jan 15, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Did anyone see the Fist

Pumps by Vinnie during the game, I guess he was excited about all the thrust he was getting.

by QUINTEN DALEY on Jan 15, 2010 10:57 AM CST reply actions  

What's on VDN's cheat sheet?

He has two of them now. He’s got the full page rollup and a half page with colored lines.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

That's Top Secret

You know that, and I can’t reveal the answer on the internets.

by Trey23 on Jan 15, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

lol yea I saw that, the notecard with colored lines. He is probably getting tips from a kindergartener who writes cards for him in crayons.

by HeXDeMoN on Jan 15, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Vinny consistently uses the word "thrust" when describing Hinrich

Hinrich is playing better and appears to be meshing well with Rose. It appears that Hinrich is taking some burden away from Rose and helping him be more of a scorer.

by chgobr on Jan 15, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Did Boston have any dunks?

That’s a strong indication of defensive presence, rotating and not losing your man. And no fast break’s.

by Trey23 on Jan 15, 2010 11:40 AM CST reply actions  

I wish I could rec you 10 times

He was on the floor so much, that i seriously considered going on the Celtics blog and ask if he has some kind of inner ear problem. Why is the biggest guy on their team so eager to fall down?

by runningman on Jan 15, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

As to your shout outs

I sure hope that little O spurt by HInrich is a sign of more htings to come. Seriously he reminded me o fhis former young rookie/Soph year self to end the first half….since then it seems when he does try to be aggressive offensively and get those open looks they don’t fall. He looked really good in the first half.

Rose can just sometimes give you goosebumps as he did int he 4th.

Taj Gibson actually had what I’d say was easily his best all around game yesterday. I mean he’s had probably bigger pts and definitely more rebounds, but he was active and totally looked legitimate starting quality big (I know against a hapless, injured Celtics squad, I get that) but still for a rook, he looked very good.

I still want to see TYrus starting as his energy was phenomenal too.

And Deng had a consistently good (though yesterday almost great) game….

Nice win. I know they’re injured, but still that’s a game we would have lost by at least 25 3 short weeks ago…

Sadly....through thick and thin....

by majoyenrac on Jan 15, 2010 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

The Bulls had a block party last night(10),

and we now lead the league in blocks.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.

by dakoose on Jan 15, 2010 12:37 PM CST reply actions  

Boy Doug Collins sure sounded

like he wouldn’t mind coaching this squad

by Dils on Jan 15, 2010 1:40 PM CST reply actions  

I have a feeling Doug the coach wouldn't be as pleased

as Doug the commentator.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

that 3 game stretch where derrick averaged 9 fta per game-- an aberration it seems.

since then hes averaging less than 3 fta per game. hes still young obviously but if its so unnatural for him to seek contact i wonder to what extent he will be able to adapt. its hard to overhaul your habits and natural inclinations, even when youre young.

"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."

by TheMoon on Jan 15, 2010 2:18 PM CST reply actions  

yeah :-/

he could’ve gotten a couple more calls last night, but the FTAs don’t lie.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

One of the highlights

for me was Noah getting booed everytime he touched the ball. When was the last time the Bulls had a player who inspired such hatred in opposing fans?

by El Toro de Goro on Jan 15, 2010 2:51 PM CST reply actions  

Ben Gordon?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Fan of the Chicago Cash Cows formerly known as the Bulls

by bigballa10 on Jan 15, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty funny

when he went to the line early in the game. You could tell by the look on Noah’s face the fans had some choice words for him. He nailed both attempts. =)

"I'm going to enjoy an apple in bed." - Derrick Rose

by E-Grizzle on Jan 15, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

They booed Miller

when he came in too.

OK I don't know shit about basketball.

by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I think

those were actually Bulls fans at the game.

by El Toro de Goro on Jan 16, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Did anyone catch the

classy thing Noah did in the post game interview last night with his message to the people of Haiti? Real classy.

by Dils on Jan 15, 2010 4:43 PM CST reply actions  

theres only a fanshot about it...

….

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Jan 15, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

http://www.blogabull.com/2010/1/15/1253066/what-cant-noah-do

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

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