NBA Playbook - Bulls vs. Pistons
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 12, 2010 11:07 AM CST
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This is kindof neat, a link dropped in my mailbox from Sebastian Pruti of TrueHoop's Nets blog. It more exposes the Pistons suckage rather than the Bulls doing anything exemplary, but that's you can't get huge blowouts without the opponent helping a bit.
Not much to say about the win last night, except that it'll be a nice kick in the seat for the ol' point differential, and a necessary victory before the tough stretch begins. Certainly encouraging that it was not only a win but an absolute destruction (such a designation does matter), though I don't get why Sam Smith is so giddy: they did just lose to the Thunder, Bobcats, and Bucks last week.
Also nice that this solidifies the Pistons in such a hole that some big trades have to be coming. Not so much that I care what they do, but that I want some trade talk to distract me from the Bulls season (and their own nearly-certain lack of trade activity).
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my one comment from last night
did anyone else notice how in the first half funk and king were ripping the pistons for playing gordon at the point… while we had pargo playing the point at the same time??? man i hate neil funk.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
by Calogero on Jan 12, 2010 11:27 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
that part really upset me too.
neil going on and on about how awful gordon was playing the point and how he wouldn’t pass and blah blah blah… made me sad.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
I'd rather have Ben Gordon play point guard than let John Salmons play any position.
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Jan 12, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
at one point
didn’t funk say, “there goes gordon doing his dribbling routine again.”?
If you have enough to drink, they can be mildly amusing sometimes.
It's true that we don't know what we've got until we lose it, but it's also true that we don't know what we've been missing until it arrives.
yea funk was doing his usual rip on gordon routine
my personal favorite is when he was laughing hysterically when villanueva forced up a bad shot because “he’s afraid to pass it to gordon because he’d never get it back!!!” it’s all gordon’s fault neil. all his fault.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
i also like how gordon registered an assist immediately after funk said that.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
BEN's an awesome point guard - not.
Ben’s not a PG. Never will happen. He’s tried really hard in the offseason for years and it just hasn’t worked out. I can see why the Pistons would use him there.
He’s a one of four guys on the Pistons who likes to shoot the ball from the guard position. They need a PG badly.
Gordon's a fine passer,
no one has ever asked him to do it though.
by BigBabyCollin on Jan 12, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
that's what fine means
“of fine quality”
“fine arts”
“fine wine”
The Beatles. The Fab Four. The greatest band of all time. John, Paul, George and Scottie Pippen.
very glad I didn't see last night's game with the sound on.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 12, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Pargo's good, maybe even great.
He just doesn’t get any playing time!
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Jan 12, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe we're paying him in rubles
12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)
by NBA Observer on Jan 12, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking the same exact thing, and would have commented on it if I were by my computer.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.
As it turns out
Gordon is great at shooting and is the Pistons best offensive option if used right. Making him the point means that either he doesn’t get the chance to get a good shot in their slow paced offense, or that no one else gets the ball.
So Gordon plays the point yesterday, and takes 1 shot in 7 minutes. He didn’’t get a chance to do the one thing that earns him his 10million+ contract. Could Funk and King actually be correct that having Gordon play point is a bad use of him?
Not sure what Pargo has to do with it. Pargo shouldn’t be playing PG or SG as he’s equally bad at both of them. He was only in because Rose got in foul trouble and Hinrich needed rest. It was either him or Lindsey Hunter.
i don't think
using gordon at the point is a great use of him, but i think he can do it in limited minutes. it was also unfair to trash him while they were making the point. they could have questioned their use of gordon at the point in a way that was a lot more palatable.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Unfair to trash him?
They’re not journalists trying to be balanced. They’re home team broadcasters… bias is part of their job.
They’re not going to be conflicted about their loyalties just because some of the fans are.
how about they talk up the home team instead of talking down the
opponents? I appreciate home team bias. I don’t like a couple chumps pushing the company agenda.
pete
and cologero have hit the nail on the head here. there’s a line of being professional that they’re crossing. the way they were doing it just sounded really awful. it’s possible to be classy while being a homer, and it wasn’t that at all.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Didn't
sound at all “unclassy” to me, whatever that means. Then again, I don’t have any feelings for the players that aren’t on “my” team.
its not a ben gordon thing at all. plenty of other teams fans have remarked how
the bulls have possibly the most obnoxious and repellent announcers in the nba. when other blogs cant avoid commenting on the bad etiquette of your commentators in their game recaps thats probably a bad sign.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
other than boston's
:D
WORST EVER. <3 when celtics games are on TNT so i don’t have to put up with those assholes.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
do you watch much celtics jaina?
i watch suns ‘cause i still like ’em. the games that aren’t on dish are nice ’cause i can watch ’em with the audio on “underground garage”.
but as bad as the suns’ guy is, it’s nothing like heinsohn. i feel for ya, especially if you’re watching to root against “your home team”!
"Let's do some living... after we die"
"Unclassy" means they are paid professionals that make comments on par with the game threads on this blog.
It was funny and quirky when 70+ Johnny Red Kerr is being an unabashed homer, it’s sad and petty when all Neil Funk does is insult the opposing teams’ players.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 12, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
Life ain't fair,
Still, Gordon’s a crummy PG. He’s a SG. So are Stucky and Hamilton despite what they’re asked to do in the absence of a real PG on the Pistions.
i agree with this
gordon can play the point in a pinch, and funk/king’s trashing of him (and other opponents throughout the year, i.e. the danilo gallinari bash session) is just unprofessional.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
Very good breakdown. I enjoyed it. Man, the Pistons stink. Oh and Joakim is awesome.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
No, really. Kirk needs to GTFO. Trade his ass, GarPaxDorf.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 12, 2010 11:32 AM CST reply actions
Pistons suckage
Wow, they’re bad. I’m trying to remember the last NBA team that would go on the court with no chance of winning the game. I can’t count this year’s Nets since they beat the Bulls. Maybe the early 90’s Clippers.
I now enjoy Aaron Gray. I pretend he’s a big guy from a rec league who gets his dream of playing a few minutes with a pro club. Try it.
by El Toro de Goro on Jan 12, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
The 1992-1994 Dallas Mavericks were 24-140.
I’m trying to remember the last NBA team that would go on the court with no chance of winning the game.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Jan 12, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
". I’m trying to remember the last NBA team that would go on the court with no chance of winning the game"
The New Jersey Nets?
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 12, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
You can't count this year's Nets ... because they BEAT THE BULLS?
REALLY?!?
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Jan 12, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I know what you mean
about Gray. I know he sucks, but I just feel really good for him when he scores. He just seems like the kind of guy who enjoys the little playing time he gets.
The Beatles. The Fab Four. The greatest band of all time. John, Paul, George and Scottie Pippen.
Does anyone else think Ben Gordon would fit well on our team?
With the Pistons in financial ruins, maybe we can take on his longterm contract for a couple expirings.
are the Pistons in financial ruins?
$54m for next year, $36m the year after that.
they’re certainly in a flexibility bind, but they’re not in tax territory or anything.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 12, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think there's enough money flowing in
From the Ken Berger article:
The hardest-hit franchise so far is the Detroit Pistons, whose net average gate receipts are down a staggering 42.8 percent year-over-year, according to the figures reported by teams to the league office. The Pistons made an average of $537,263 per game on ticket sales through their first eight home games, down from $938,833 at the same point last season.
Would the last person leaving Detroit please turn out the lights.
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Jan 12, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
Hamiltion and Gordon; Awesome use of salary cap space!!!!
Pistons with Stucky a SG, Rip a SG and Ben a SG. Three guys, two with major contracts.
It’s an flawed team until Joe Dumars trades some of his SGs and for a PG or PF.
I'd cry....
tears of joy that is, lol I miss my favorite player.
by BigBabyCollin on Jan 12, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
YES, YES, YES!!!
Does anyone else think Ben Gordon would fit well on our team?
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Jan 12, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
i would be ecstatic
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by MPG on Jan 12, 2010 8:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This points out the bulls issues with P&R all year...
First, if Noah sets the screen, he has to roll to the basket hard. Second, Rose has to realize that he will rarely be able to split the defenders or come off in an immediate drive to the hoop. Rather he needs to try and get over the top of the hedging defender as quickly as he can, then begin driving while keeping his pasing angles open to the cutter, the other post, and keep an eye on the other two players outside the arc. Rose too many times sees the screen as something freeing him up to drive. However, bringing an extra defender over with the screener will rarely free Rose for the drive. When Rose gets to the right spot off the screen, this play is the simplest way for the Bulls to get points. However, as is the case all year, if we don’t have shooters, this does not work! Then Salmons and Kirk defenders can sag waaay off and clog the passing lanes.
Thats why the Bulls need Bosh.
Someone besides Noah setting the high screen who can hit a 15 footer.
'Lebron James is making the blocked shot something cool now in basketball.'- Mark Jones ESPN
That's what Brad Miller was supposed to do...
Which I’m not sure he has. He can’t do much else either… It’s all kind of a huge problem.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 12, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
that does suck i think. the bulls need anyone who can play now.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
What really sucks is that Taj's sore foot won't keep Vinny from starting him over Tyrus.
I have plantar fasciitis and it’s painful when putting too much pressure on it. I recommend that Taj rest it as long as possible by starying off of his foot. I’m no doctor but I’d suggest playing no more than 15 minutes a game would probably help the healing process. Oh what’s a coach to do placed in such an uncomfortable predicament?
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can we start trading already?
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