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Around SBN: The Gift Of The 2003 Tigers

[From the FanShots. And here I thought I didn't have a dog in the Eurobasket fight. Forgot about Asik, though I'm worried he'll be 'Plan E' when it comes to 2010 Free Agency -ed.]

I guess the knee is better.

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Do we have any other guys overseas?

Does anybody know any other guys drafted that played overseas for a few years then came out and had a decent impact on their respective teams?

I think Ginobli would qualify somewhat, but I thought he was a higher/more prized pick than a lot of these “draft and stash” guys.

by RyPac13 on Sep 8, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

he played 15 min...............for TURKEY

5 pts and 1 blocked shot?

it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Sep 8, 2009 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

he is coming back from a knee injury, so there's that to consider. and don't sleep on Turkey,

Hedo Turkoglu is the man (even if he is overpaid). Asik is a very good player (despite the paltry stats) and Ilyasova is a legitimate NBA player.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Sep 8, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and Semih Erden, who is another big man prospect for Turkey that the Celtics drafted

recently. He should be a decent player, too.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Sep 8, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Extrapolating that out, he's a beast!

15 points and 9 rebounds, 6/6 from the field, 3 blocks… He’s basically a double-double machine! Schedule the championship parade…!

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Sep 8, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Omer Asik

He still has to prove himself… Euro-league while a competitive league… doesn’t have to talent level close to the NBA.

I like that hes 7’0… He has the skillset to rebound and block shots… Hes only 23 years.

I hope he can come to the Bulls and be a solid defensive big of the bench that could score a little bit too.

OR Maybe will pull a “Dirk” and be like a elite Camby-esqe type.

Whats the situation with him in regards to coming to America???

by 420man! on Sep 9, 2009 2:46 AM CDT reply actions  

416 days!

Hes totally gonna enhance our bench!

by 420man! on Sep 9, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

a european player playing solid D?

He might to skinny and get pushed around

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Sep 9, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's nice too see him playing

But his stats from last season are not great. Especially from the FT line…That’s something he needs to improve…

by bull83 on Sep 9, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Does anyone really expect more from Omer than what we already get from Aaron Gray?

"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"

by exult463 on Sep 9, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, he is faster

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Sep 9, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paxson should

he moved 3 second-round picks for the guy.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 9, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did we really need to 'not pick CDR' that badly?

I mean, he hit all of Paxson’s needs too.
WTF Paxson.
Uggggh.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Sep 9, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

meh, CDR has as much of a resume as Asik

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 9, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

But I like him better!

And besides, he would be only one pick. :P

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Sep 9, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

CDR is amazing

Don’t you dare knock him.

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Sep 9, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

He definitely runs the floor and finishes better than Gray, is more athletic and is a shot blocker from what I’ve read on him. Gray is just…BIG.

"I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. Twenty six times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."- Michael Jordan

by bigballa10 on Sep 9, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sounds good

My impression was that he didn’t have much offense yet but that sounds like he’s got a little bit.

"I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. Twenty six times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."- Michael Jordan

by bigballa10 on Sep 9, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Considering Gortat is a decent defender, that sounds impressive.

"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"

by exult463 on Sep 9, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw some highlights;

Asik was much more athletic than I expected. And he’s big. 7.025 barefoot.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Sep 9, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

and here they

are.

Asik averaging 12 ppg, 6rpg, 1.3bpg on 77% shooting in 20mpg.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Sep 9, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for finding that

he looks a bit stiff, but at least he has decent hands and some skill.

by kig on Sep 9, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

one of the things that stood out from Omer's highlights is how good his hands are.

He caught passes high, low, off the bounce, and in the air and was able to handle them all pretty seamlessly. He also has more moves around the bucket than I thought he did (I was picturing more of a Biedrins type who gets all his points off of offensive boards).

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Sep 9, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gortat's D was pretty weak

I’m guessing he wasn’t prepared to play any of these guys he has to guard.

Asik looks pretty good. Love the interior passing.
His line is ridiculous in the game. 22pts, 8reb, 1bs, 1to, 1foul on 10-11 shooting.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Sep 10, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice find

love hearing that; after we took him and i heard about him getting hurt i figured we’d never see him over here

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by Calogero on Sep 9, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

What if we magically got Wade

And tried this (I’m assuming Salmons opts out):

PG: Rose/Hnrich
SG: Wade/Hinrich
SF: Deng/Johnson
PF: Noah/Random Scrub
C: Asik/Random Scrub

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again; I do not believe in James Johnson at PF.

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Sep 9, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

"I do not believe in James Johnson at PF".. I second that motion!

"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"

by exult463 on Sep 10, 2009 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I believe in him as a reserve pf. He could cause situational problems

for the other team.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Sep 10, 2009 6:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

if you haven't noticed

neither Noah or Asik can hit a shot outside of 10ft, so that would pose a problem. I think Asik as a solid backup C is the most we should expect. We need a legit scoring threat from either the 4 or 5, and with your proposal of Wade joining the team, it would be much better to have at least one big with range on his jumper in order to keep the lane from being too clogged.

by kig on Sep 10, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, by saying we should expect something from Asik

I mean ‘something’ as in ‘replace Taj’

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 10, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or replace the White Panther.

"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer

by Granny Waiters on Sep 10, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know that we wouldn't be able to do that at the 4 and 5

I just figured that if we sign Wade to a max contract, we wouldn’t be able to get a starteresque PF with our lack of cap room. If we trade Hinrich away for expirings, then this would work, but who thinks Kurt’s going to be traded? And would this be any better than the one above?:

PG: Rose/Random Scrub
SG: Wade/Random Scrub
SF: Deng/Johnson
PF: Thomas/Random Scrub
C: Noah/Asik

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Sep 10, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the other hand

If we got Amare, then we wouldn’t have to trade Kurt (big sigh of relief by Pax):

PG: Rose/Hinrich
SG: MLE (Dahntay Jones role)/Hinrich
SF: Deng/Johnson
PF: Stoudemire/Johnson (only in spot time)
C: Noah/Asik

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Sep 10, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stupidgenius, I love it! That’s such a stretch, though when we haven’t seen one guy even play pro ball, the other is in Euroleague and Wade is likely to just resign at this point, provided that Riley does something to bring him some more talent (I think that’s likely given that it is Riley we’re talking about).

I’m always weary of non NBA players and comparisons, but playing well against a backup center in the NBA is a good thing, especially when that backup just got something like 5 million a year and backs up the best NBA center. He also played well when Howard was out and doesn’t seem like a weak defender at all.

by RyPac13 on Sep 10, 2009 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

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