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We've hashed out the likely suspects.  Most of us already know them by heart.  Derrick develops into a superstar.  Tyrus develops a brain.  There's also the more seasonal causes for optimism: X gained Y pounds of muscle, whereas Z is no longer a break-dancing, kung-fu fatty.  Probably the most standard shlock comes from the organization itself.  We've heard it each year for ten.  That playoff push/1st round loss/2nd round loss was invaluable! Our team has had another year to gell!  I've always wanted to respond: fellas, so has the rest of the league. 

This year, though, is unique.  I'll put my premise right out there, and I'll even bold it for more convienent lampooning.  This is the best Bulls team in a decade.  Here are five unconventional reasons why.    

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1) We have an alpha dog.  The Bulls deserve some cred for recognizing their own dumb luck.  Since landing Derrick they've done everything in their power - and some things I wish they hadn't - to place Derrick at the center of the organization.  For once, our most talented player is the player to which we've hitched our wagons.  And for once, we have a player whose talent is such that it warrants wagon-hitching.

An example.  Too often, last year, Derrick would dribble downcourt, hand the ball off, and float into a corner where, to the best of my knowledge, he physically dissolved.  Were the shot clock to run down, the ball would go to one of our vets, who were much more experienced at jacking up bad shots than Derrick.  Not so this year.  Who will the ball go to when the clock is winding down?  Our best player.

Even the best offense breaks down, and nobody would use that adjective to describe what the Bulls run.  Remember the number of times MJ pulled a last second shot (or pass) out of his butt?  Or the number of times Kobe bails out the lakers?  In those moments - and they are frequent - it's essential to have everyone on the same page.  To have everyone thinking get the ball to X and get open.  In fact, I'd argue it's better to have five guys working in concert to get the ball to flawed alpha dog, than to have five guys trying to "make something happen." 

Independent of his development as a player, Derrick's not a rookie anymore.  The moments of helter-skelter basketball on a helter-skelter team will improve.  Meaning that - despite the catchy nickname - Captain Kirk shouldn't be a captain anymore.  In name or in practice.            

 

2) Roles and rotation.  I don't believe the day has come.  Our PG is a PG.  Our C is a C.  Our SF is a SF.  Our SG and SF are...close enough.  Better yet: the bench.  Our combo guard will be backing up both the 1 and 2 (go figure).   We have a pint-sized fire-off-the-bench guy (Pargo) who will be used to bring..well, offensive fire-power in a pinch.  Brad Miller, a superb back up center, will be our back-up center.  It's a novel concept for our organization: sign players with games and positions that don't overlap.  Assuming an 8.5 (the .5 is Pargo) man rotation, there's no redundancy here.  It's frakking elegant.    

 

3) Larry Hughes.  Is gone.  This is the first team in years unburdened by either very bad or very selfish players.  Larry Hughes.  The latter day Andres NocioniJamal Crawford.  Ron Mercer.  If you're cringing, rest easy.  There's not a ball-hogging malcontent to be found on this roster.  And thank God.  Not only do you lose with players like that, it makes for unwatchable basketball.

4) Size.  This team is big.  Derrick is a big point guard, Salmons is a large two.  Luol Deng, at 6.9 235, is a downright huge SF.  We now have two skilled seven footers who actually play like it.  Additionally, JJ brings something we haven't had since Antonio Davis: burliness.  22 reps at the combine.  And 21-0 in MMA.  :)

Gone are the days that the Bulls are the "little team that could."  And good riddance. 

5) One agenda.  There's just been so much b.s. over the years.  We've played bad players to raise their trade value.  We've benched good young players because our interim coach needed to "win."  We've had players playing for contracts and players we've paid to leave.  I seem to imagine one coach actually surrendering in mid-season, on Christmas Eve.  I wouldn't have made it that long.

Basta.  Enough.  Nobody's playing for a contract.  Nobody's pissed about their contract.  We're experienced enough not to give a crap about trade rumors.  And the ego issues - usually stemming from minutes distribution - won't be as pronounced, since we actually have a defined and balanced roster. 

The only issues are basketball issues.  Now let's play.

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Good post

One change I’m looking forward to this year is having an alpha dog who passes. We clearly had an alpha dog last year in Gordon who took every big shot even while quadruple teamed in the corner. All things considered, he was very good in that role.

But the best alpha dogs in the game (Wade, LeBron, Kobe, MJ) all had high assists rates. Maybe this year instead of “Give to Gordon, he’s doubleteamed, everyone else is standing around” it’s “Give to Rose, he’s doubleteamed, he finds the open man and BULLS WIN!!!!!%J@()@!!”

Rose isn’t Gordon in terms of “give me the rock” attitude or clutchness, maybe even in ability to create a shot out of nothing. But having a point guard as a go-to player completely changes our 4th quarter offense, and I can see how it could lead to an improvement.

by YaoPau on Sep 26, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Absolutely.

And I probably should have specified what I meant – that whether Derrick’s shooting or passing, he needs to be the guy creating in those moments.

What’s nice is that other players are generally more willing to give the rock to a guy who’s not necessarily looking for his own shot.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Sep 26, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly believe that if the Bulls had a better coach, it wouldn't have been such an issue.

The offense was terrible last year, and I don’t believe it was Gordon’s fault at all. I don’t believe it was any of the players’ fault.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 2, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only thing that's missing is....

…a number 2 option, for when that Derrick Rose Dribble Drive gets doubled down and he has to pass to the open man.I like the high low p&r with Noah and Tyrus as a set play for two guys who should dunk the rock any chance they get, but someone (Deng, Salmons, JJ?) has to put the ball in the hole either as a creator or a spot up shooter. Deng has a good midrange game and Salmons can create a bit. Watching tape of JJ create at Wake is occasionally a thing of beauty…if they can get into a drive and kick offense with some consistent scorers, they’ll be a deadly team to play…

by Carlitro on Sep 26, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Salmons is the #2

The guy did score 18ppg last year for us, and scored 30+ when Gordon went out. You’re right about JJ though, if there’s one guy on this team that I think can be a #2 in 2010, it’s him. I’m still not sure he’ll be good, but other other core options (Hinrich, Deng, Tyrus, Noah) just have zero chance.

Dear JJ: Please pan out.

by YaoPau on Sep 26, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salmons is your pick for #2

Which is fine, but Deng has “zero chance” of being able to fill that role? Contractually, Salmons is better, but if I was to pick a player to be on my squad based solely on basketball ability, and Rose was already taken, it would be Deng. I’ll happily eat crow if he has an injury plagued year, but my gut tells me alot you guys will be back on he Deng-wagon this season. I mean, I remember a dude around here who’s sig was “Deng 2008 MVP!”?

There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons

by cakezula on Sep 26, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Long as he doesn't get injured.

TT could break out, too. Key word could. He’s been able to break out for a fairly long time, now.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Sep 27, 2009 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well Deng could be our #2 player

I meant #2 scoring option. Salmons can create his own shot, Deng can’t.

by YaoPau on Sep 27, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with most of this

but I really don’t see any evidence that there’s ‘one agenda’, b/c that’d imply a plan.

There are 2 players possibly playing for contracts (that the team doesn’t want to give them) in Salmons and Thomas. Brad Miller also is likely looking for his last NBA contract after the season. Jerome James is still around. Vinny may have the hottest seat in the league.

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 26, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Way to stick to your guns

pessimism is so much more fun anyway, right?

"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak

by Rose Colored Goggles on Sep 26, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

well care to actually address the 'one agenda' point then?

the fanpost just says it won’t be like the other years. Doesn’t say exactly why.

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 27, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

MPG hits it out of the park

I could not write it any better. Building a contender to be one of the top 5 of 30 teams is a huge challenge. We are not there as of now but I like who we are and our possibilities a la MPG.

We never traded a first round pick to get quick, short-term results. Yes you need to be lucky and we have been with Rose but we had the pick to give us the chance to get lucky. We avoided what Phoenix, the Knicks, Minnesota and others have done – we did not give up a first round pick for the quick fix. Yes there have been mistakes – Wallace – but we kept our 1st rounder and now we can build around Rose.

I like where we are. I believe (hope) we all may like the results this team provides which will minimize the loss of not having a 6’ SG who undermines ball movement and is a liability on defense. Great job MPG! You get a “rec”!

by chgobr on Sep 26, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, Chgobr.

This should be a good year. The only thing that would make it perfect for me would be if we had an experienced coach, someone with a track record of success, etc. But even there – I’m curious to see how much VDN develops.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Sep 26, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think VDN will be better...

hard to be worse! But his team did make the playoffs, (albeit in spite of him IMHO!) and hopefully he’ll be able to build on that. There was plenty of tape to watch and second guess decisions he made… one thing about the guy, I give him credit for being supremely confident. A coach needs to think that way, but he also has to learn from his mistakes which I don’t think he did last season.

by 72-10 on Sep 30, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

in terms of defense and that switching up that the bulls love to do,

with rose, hinrich and salmons, it should improve our defense in the perimeter and in penetration attempts as well

by gman2849 on Sep 26, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Derrick Rose can guard Shaquille O'Neal if we get the right seed

That’ll be fun to watch. Well, hilariously awful to watch, but who’s counting?

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Sep 27, 2009 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the most part you've described most of the things I'm positive about going into the season.

I think the top 7 guys fit together really well, and it’s hard to screw that up very much. Whether management has a long term plan or they’re the biggest idiots in the NBA will be determined 10 months from now so we might as well live in the moment with this team.

by Scotter on Sep 26, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Ah, the halcyon days of the offseason, just before tipoff, when there is no disillusionment

everyone is healthy, and puff pieces abound. I hope things go as swimmingly as we’re all hoping / planning.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Sep 27, 2009 3:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I would love for this post to be on the front page right after the circus trip.

If MPG’s feel good vibrations are on point through then, he should be new editor of the blog.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 27, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

I decline.

:)

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Sep 27, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a great post.

No matter what happens this season, it’s always great to start with optimism for the team we’re going to support for another season.

Let’s go Bulls!

by rainman1003 on Sep 28, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Ok! Ok!

Will any of this positive stuff happen?

Let me see the organization make a bold uncharactistic move this year an anoint the “alpha dog” as a team captain or the team captain… and move those wimps to take a back seat in influence on the team.

"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"

by exult463 on Sep 29, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Funny-

I was thinking that earlier, how batshit insane it would be if they didn’t make Rose a captain. It would just be…typical. But I don’t think they would name anybody else. I’m guessing it will be Derrick, Brad Miller, and either Luol or Kirk.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Sep 30, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't players vote on captains?

I’m not sure who it will be but I’m sure it doesn’t matter. Noah, Miller and Hinrich seem like the leaders off the court to me. Deng and Rose the leaders on the court.

by Basketball Smurf on Sep 30, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

you’re right. But I seem to imagine the organization having some say as well. Can anyone verify this?

If so, it’s gonna be the first “captain vote” that ever had any tension. It’s stupid, I realize…but if Derrick ain’t voted in, looks baaaaaaaad.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 1, 2009 5:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes, it's the players

which is why the “why isn’t so and so captain” question is dumb. especially after it’s been repeated here like 50 times.

if derrick wants to be captain, he can put his name in just like everyone else and if the players want him to be captain, they’ll name him so.

i don’t think the org has any say in it.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 1, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

and being captain only comes with the power to

talk to refs….i think hinrich just raises his hand to keep the cool nickname, although that may be why vdn insists on calling him kurt….

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's dumb;

it’s to the point. If Derrick hasn’t won the team over, so to speak, he’s not going to be voted captain by his peers. The organization clearly views him as a leader from the top down. This should be a pretty good ground-up barometer.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 1, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's dumb because

every time i’ve seen it asked on here it’s in the context of the organization “promoting” certain players, when that’s not what it is at all.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 1, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why Justify this?

Be serious “hasn’t won the team over”

This organization is filled with Jealousy. Paxson subtlely ignorantly insults it and it filters downward. Listen to the comments and remarks from mgmt to players in regards to Gordon departure.

First, the coach and captain titles have been reduced to meaningless positions in the Bulls org under Paxson.

what happen to the days when team captain represented a player who by far desired to win at all cost, a guy who never quits, doesn’t back down, doesn’t accept losing, a player who scolded teammates for making stupid fouls during critical junctures in the game, a player who got in a teammates face for not grabbing a necessary rebound, a player who gave 110% percent every time he stepped on the floor in practice or a game, a player who wasn’t afraid of responsibility

We think a captain’s only job is to talk to refs, without holding teammates (young millionaires) responsible for anything

The coach and many players on this team are a bunch of suck ups to management and these influenced by their paycheck provider youngster then decide who will be captain? The outcome will always be management’s non competitive lacking leadership pet favorites who continue to influence this team with their passive behavior.

First a real coach is needed, and as 72-10 mentioned, the coach should choose the captain, but the coach must not be a suck up to this present stupid management. The captain must be anointed the leader by the coach because the coach should knows this guy is the leader regardless of senority, bypassing jealousy or what the other influential off the court wimps think they contribute to the team off the court!

Instead we have the calves leading the cows.. (oops I meant Bulls)

"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"

by exult463 on Oct 1, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't that half the team?

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Oct 2, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Irrefutable logic

I’m putting in a call to Vegas now.

by runningman on Oct 1, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now what are your conspiracy theories about the Cubs?

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Oct 2, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

They've been making money for the last 100 years.

Why stop being mediocre now?

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Oct 2, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Before the tribune the Cubs were not always a cash cow.

The cubs drew less fans than the Sox on a daily basis. The tribune marketed the hell out of them and spent way more money than the previous owners did… that turned out to be a great investment as the club increased about 300 times in value from the time the trib bought the franchise in 82 (I think that was the year.) JR learned from this and has invested heavily in marketing for both his clubs… with varied degree’s of success. Ultimately though JR understands that if you put competitive teams out there, generally you’re going to pack the house and make money.

by 72-10 on Oct 5, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Bulls might be great

only if half the teams in the east lose half their team due to injuries

If you dont like me please ignore me and my posts

The Pirates,Reds,Royals, and Padres are not major league teams

by angryandy on Oct 7, 2009 6:55 AM CDT reply actions  

1) We have an alpha dog.

“We” and “alpha dog”

All I need to know is if he also has “THAT DOG IN HIM” (Pretty lame that I have that page bookmarked for its hilarity). If so, we have a trifecta of cliches/hyperbole coming full swing even before the first game.

Go Bulls!

by NittanyCub on Oct 9, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Jesus, Nittany.

You’re really going to play that card? Obviously, I’m not a Chicago Bull, but the tribal identification in a team is what makes it emotionally interesting. Because we are invested in it.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 9, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

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