Initial Bulls Media Day link dump
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 25, 2009 3:45 PM CDT
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Not much news, lots of talk about defense.
Perhaps the most interesting thing I saw in my scan of media day reactions is that Jerome James is alive, and wants to play basketball. That's technically not good news, from and 'insured contract' standpoint.
I'll give a proper write-up over the weekend, but in the meantime:
- Mike McGraw, Daily Herald
- Doug Thonus, ChicagoNow ("Everything is in place for this special year". HOSE THIS MAN DOWN!)
- Joel Brigham, Hoopsworld
- KC Johnson, Tribune
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ah hahaha from Mike McGraw's article a few things....
General manager Gar Forman claimed Kirk Hinrich had the best summer since joining the Bulls in 2003. Hinrich wasn’t sure he agreed, but is ready to go.
Nice confidence Kirt!
Jerome James plans on…………………. playing? Oh god. He showed up?
-The most relaxed man in the building was probably John Paxson, who sat up in the balcony watching Forman take on Paxson’s former role of dealing with the media.
So Gar’s job is just to do all the crappy work that Paxson was never good at… I guess we knew that right? Still it just weird.
Derreck Rose, you’ve gotta be flat-out kidding me. Double overtime! Triple overtime!- Chuck wack on crack
by SoulEater7 on Sep 25, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That Kirk comment is hilarious
Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz
by SRQman on Sep 25, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The full quote is more interesting:
“I feel like I had a good summer,” Hinrich said. "I don’t know if this is my best one. I feel like I’m ready. I’m excited about the group we’ve got. We’ve got good guys. It’s going to be a lot of fun, hopefully.
“We’re going to miss Ben’s explosive scoring a little bit. But we’ve got guys who can score. It was five years, I guess, so it’s a little different not having him here. I’ve known for a while he wasn’t going to be here, though.”
From McGraw’s full story.
I like McGraw, and he tends to be my favorite of the beat writers, but I wish he hadn’t stopped right where Kirk says he knew Ben was going to be gone for a while.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Sep 25, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a ridiculous failure of journalism for him to not pursue that further. Cripes.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Sep 25, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago sports journalism
“We know the ship is sinking, why even try?”
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Sep 26, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and 10 years later
“I’d known for a while i was always going to be here, though”
by sin on Sep 25, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
John Paxson and Jerry Reinsdorf told me 2 years ago
"Any they also told me I was going to play more than Salmons!
When you got it like me you just keep your month shut and soon you’ll see my jersey hanging in the UC."
Just fill in the blanks. it aint no mystery!
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap!
I can’t believe he said that. A follow up question would’ve been nice.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
by bigballa10 on Sep 27, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked dougs article
maybe cuz as it is his first time with no one to guide him, i could relate or imagine myself being in the situation (if only i could… :() and therefore enjoyed reading his article….plus i also like how he sort of mocked the majority of the reporters and the misplaced concerns they had (noahs image and its factor on his work ethic)…i guess ill read the others now…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Sep 25, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess James Johnson is nice?
I guess I miss judged him.. I always thought he came off kinda ehh meh cocky too coolish? Oh everyone is buff now. But that was an interesting read by Dougy. Special year? I think watching Vinny get fired will make it quite special.
Derreck Rose, you’ve gotta be flat-out kidding me. Double overtime! Triple overtime!- Chuck wack on crack
by SoulEater7 on Sep 25, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
James Johnson is awesome. I’ve interviewed him twice, and I really can’t say enough about what a good guy he comes off as. It doesn’t mean he’ll be great on the court, but he certainly makes me want to root for him.
by dougthonus on Sep 26, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Sep 26, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why ugh? rooting for a good guy to succeed is a bad thing?
especially when said good guy is a newly minted Bull?
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Sep 26, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because it's tyger
"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush
by Illini15 on Sep 26, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
riiiiiight
:-)
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Sep 27, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, no one on the team is really "bad" anyway so I am not sure why the distinction is always made.
In the past the “good guys” end up beloved by the management, over paid, and held on to for dear life. To me that phrase has a bad connotation. I prefer to like guys based on their talent level and what they do on the court. Often times those guys are not the “good guys” beloved by the city and management though.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
by cranscape on Sep 26, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you already know a player is good at basketball then you
probably dont have to root for him to succeed at basketball, right?
by TheMoon on Sep 27, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Chicago reporting.
It’s why I don’t read “professional” writers: if I’m going to get biased writing based on a player’s personality, I’ll just continue to read the blogs. Also, it’s not an absolute, but rooting for one guy to succeed based on how nice he is typically implies the opposite. Paul Sullivan admitted as much concerning Milton Bradley: that Bradley ignored him before the season starts and OF COURSE that’s going to make Sullivan write negative articles about Bradley. Not to say Bradley didn’t deserve them, but Sullivan was going to write it as if he did no matter what.
I don’t expect sports reporters to be completely unbiased because it is just entertainment and if they wanted to be serious journalists, they’d go into “something that mattered”. I do, however, wish it were less so.
And yeah, lie Cranscape says above, I’d rather root for the guy who is good at basketball than the guy who is nice. I root for sports teams because I want them to win. For the most part, I get my “personality fix” from real life. I enjoy the game a different way and I was “ugh”-ing that there isn’t reporting to reflect that.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Sep 27, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doug
did you ask Johnson which position he sees himself playing in the NBA?
by Basketball Smurf on Sep 26, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it doesnt matter what he sees
what matters for us is what vinny sees
by sin on Sep 26, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd like to believe that
but the Bulls have another PF whose penchant for playing on the outside sometimes causes problems between him and the coaches. I hope JJ isn’t the same way.
by Basketball Smurf on Sep 26, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BIngo
Johnson’s answer to the question, "which position does he see himself playing?’ is important. It should have been asked.
Bulls drafted JJ to play PF and not drift out like a SF. He sank in the draft because teams thought we wanted to play like a SF.
by Noe_Valley on Sep 27, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What makes you think the Bulls drafted him to play PF?
From I have seen and heard, he is a tweener…he will play both forward positions depending on match-ups/personnel on the floor.
Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?
by Dionysus2.0 on Sep 27, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we have our SF going into the future
and Tyrus is on his way out. They should be looking for a PF then.
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by cranscape on Sep 27, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that's the way you feel...
…then they should be looking for a PF at the deadline or through free agency next summer…
None of us have seen J.J. play in the NBA, but the odds of drafting a difference making PF at the 16 slot of a weak draft are slim. IMO, he was drafted to be that Noc type of role player (without the chucking of threes).
Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?
by Dionysus2.0 on Sep 27, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you look on the JJ thread
people are expecting a lot of him despite him being the 16th pick. Not me, but that seems to be the general consensus. On draft day everyone said getting two PFs were insurance against Tyrus leaving.
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by cranscape on Sep 27, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way JJ is or can play the 4 in the NBA
Oh wait. Vinny does play tiny ball. It’s because of these NBA rules I tell ya.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Sep 27, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
it does matter. Tyrus Thomas saw himself as a SF when he was drafted, and then the Bulls drafted him as a PF. That’s been a problem. It’d be interesting to know if the same situation might arise.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Sep 27, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
il
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 25, 2009 7:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
heh interesting
i thought u wouldve deleted this little mis-post using ure mod-like powers…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Sep 26, 2009 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
I would’ve, but I was on my phone for that one :-D
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 26, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i liked it too for the reasons you said
Doug just writes weird things sometimes, and that was one of them :-)
And joakim does deserve some questions about his work ethic. Not because he enjoys his time off, but remember he did have to play his way into shape last season.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 25, 2009 7:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
And joakim does deserve some questions about his work ethic
Damn straight he does. Did Doug forget how long it took Noah to get in shape last year? Only half the damn season…
by smash! on Sep 26, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you misunderstood, I have no problem with people questioning Joakim’s work ethic.
There were tons of questions about his image as a guy with no work ethic. Not about his actual work ethic, but discussion about his perceived work ethic and how he can change that. To which his attitude seemed to be something of “I work hard, how you perceive it doesn’t matter”.
Now if he’s actually not working hard, that’s an issue, but if he is, then I agree completely. He shouldn’t be worried about changing how he’s perceived. He should just worry about working hard.
by dougthonus on Sep 26, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, completely agree on that.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 26, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the special year thing
To me a special year doesn’t need to be a year where the Bulls win the championship or even make the ECF.
2004/5 was a special year and they lost in the first round.
2006/7 was a special year and they lost in the second round.
2008/9 was special for large parts of it due to the playoffs and watching Derrick destroy the league at times.
There are years that you simply enjoy watching as a fan, and I think this has a good chance at being one of those years even though it won’t likely put a ring on everyone’s finger. I think the pieces are in place that if everyone stays healthy, the team could exceed expectations pretty significantly and make the year a lot of fun.
by dougthonus on Sep 26, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I should say, I know not all fans are like that. Some people are miserable if they don’t win the title. I tend to enjoy the good things about every player and every season. Some seasons are difficult to find anything enjoyable about (2007/8), but most seasons have something you can latch onto and enjoy.
If not, what are you watching for? Why put yourself through it if you’re going to be miserable without a title. Odds are that over the next 20 years, there will be at least 20 teams that don’t win a title. The Bulls have as good a shot at being one of those teams as any other team that’s not ready to win one right now.
by dougthonus on Sep 26, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like you, I need to be hosed down.
But that’s usually the case.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Sep 26, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By which I mean
I think this could be the best team since Jordan. It’s upside is an eastern conference contender. I haven’t thought that in a decade.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Sep 26, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't think that going into 07/08?
Actually I’ve been wondering this for a while: what were the general feelings around here going into 07/08? Did everyone miss that one as badly as the mainstream press?
by penguin1 on Sep 26, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely did
I expected great things. Maybe that’s part of the reason for hesitancy this year.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 26, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expected more that year,
but I didn’t expect us to get any further than the 2nd round of the playoffs. So in retrospect, I thought we were gonna be a lot better than we were…I just hope there are no BaB archives. Otherwise I’m about to look baaaaaaaaad.
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by MPG on Sep 26, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd prefer to see a plan to win a title
the journey is fun. Spinning wheels isn’t.
And misery brings on my best blogging!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 26, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe they do better than expected this year
but it’s possible they’re totally changing the team after this year anyway, several key pieces are too old to matter (yes, in the championship pursuit that may never happen) so I’m not getting too attached to this group outside of Rose, Noah, and Deng.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 26, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Doug
if every year is special, then they’re not really special, ya know? :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 26, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1999 to 2003 were special too!
The team was newsworthy horrible.
I too enjoyed the Skiles over achiever teams and last season’s run at the Celtics.
by Noe_Valley on Sep 27, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh it's officially Blogabull season.
Assuming I don’t cross the line and get banned, nice to be back! Not that I was gone but I have a feeling I’ll be here more than I am with my own GF. Sorry, just excited the seasons on it’s way. That being said one more season until 2010 glory and years of Championship banners to come. Remember the preview button is your friend.
Derreck Rose, you’ve gotta be flat-out kidding me. Double overtime! Triple overtime!- Chuck wack on crack
by SoulEater7 on Sep 25, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
am i in the top 10?
"One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others"
by PORCH1 on Sep 25, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who in the world is deRREck Rose man?
D ROSE D WADE DESTINY DYNASTY
by Juan dela Cruz on Sep 26, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jalene Rose's cousin?
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Sep 26, 2009 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rofl, i hate angryandy :)
D ROSE D WADE DESTINY DYNASTY
by Juan dela Cruz on Sep 26, 2009 5:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the right one, apparently.
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by cranscape on Sep 26, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Johnson learning from Deng
From Poopsworld
“Luol was with me in the locker room the other night and I was asking him all these questions, like how he comes off screens. I love the way he curls off screens and that’s something I want to put in my game. For me to be the best I’ve got to keep on learning stuff like that… I just want to take everything in stride and be a sponge.”
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Sep 26, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank god he wasn't around when Wallace and Griffin where giving out advise...err votes.
Hopefully these new rookies will have a better place to land than our previous ones had.
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by cranscape on Sep 26, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson is a trained MMA fighter
If I were one of his teammates, I would not want to get on his bad side.
by Big D on Sep 26, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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