Bulls finally have a big man coach

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 21, 2009 6:55 PM CDT

This news was floated out there by Coach VDN during the summer league, but I'm not sure it was confirmed until now by Mike McGraw:

On the coaching staff, Del Harris retired and the Bulls brought in Sidney Green as a big man coach. Green was the Bulls' first-round draft pick in 1983 and stuck around for three years before being traded to Detroit for Earl Cureton.

Why Green? That's a good question. He spent 10 seasons as a head coach at the college level, at Southampton, North Florida and Florida Atlantic. He was an assistant at Indiana during Mike Davis’ final season in 2005-06.

During his 10 seasons an NBA player, I don't remember Green as a classic big man, but more of an athletic power forward with a face-up jumper. Maybe that doesn't matter, since the Bulls' only true low-post center is Aaron Gray.

There are a couple of connections with the current Bulls. Green played with Vinny Del Negro in San Antonio for part of the 1992-93 season. He also knows Joakim Noah very well, because his son Taurean was Noah’s teammate on Florida's two championship teams. Taurean Green played for the Bulls' Las Vegas summer league entry in July.

There has long been the idea that a contributing factor to the Bulls bigs lacking progress over the past several years was because they didn't have a big man coach, though Mike Brown was there for a half season or so. Rumor had it that Skiles didn't see the need.

And it may not help measurably, but it likely can't hurt. I know there's usually some blowback to hiring 'no-name' players as coaches, thinking that somehow Hakeem Olajuwon (and only him) can teach raw bigs his moves through osmosis. Green could be a far better coach then he was a player (and 10 seasons in the league is nothing to sneeze at), and he has more experience than Del Negro when he was hired, right?

[And as to not have any post now go without a exaggerated shot at the Org., it is kindof interesting that while the Bulls hired Green and Randy Brown to be development coaches, they didn't really hire a replacement for Del Harris, and will instead just move Pete Myers back to the front row of the bench. So coaching payroll has gone down too. ;-)]

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Hakeem, would be the Dream big man coach

what’s he doin nowadays? Pat Ewing has been active coaching for some time now, and also Kareem, time to summon Olajuwon it would be nice to see the top 5 centers in the history of the nba teaching the youngsters.

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by Juan dela Cruz on Sep 21, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions

Wiki says that he is living in Jordan

with his family where he is into Islamic studies and since 2006 has been running a free Big Man camp Okafor and Ming have attended in the past. It looks like he is one of the few former NBA stars who has managed him money well (something Islam teaches) and can pick and chose how much he wants to be involved.

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by cranscape on Sep 21, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions

fyi

islam pretty much teaches one not to care about money much…actually materialistic things much…so i guess you are still correct, he played in hte nba, made tons of money, and didnt really go out spending it on useless things….so yea never mind…your right…

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Sep 21, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions

The oil industry and gold palaces in the middle east says otherwise.

As with anything, it is subject to the do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do loophole. Olajuwon seems to be the real deal though. Or as much as someone with a lot of money can be I guess. When there is a rule that pretty much says “no paying out interest” having all that ready cash on hand to buy something outright is a real blessing that not every has.

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by cranscape on Sep 21, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions

awesome

I brought it up intentionally as a silly idea, and the first comment is suggesting it :)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 21, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions

where's the big men?

I am nobody, so this is what I am

by IamClassic on Sep 21, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions

That's what I was thinking

Who is he going to teach?

"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z

by bigballa10 on Sep 21, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions

aaron gray

plan 2010

by sin on Sep 22, 2009 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions

Hopefully Joakim. Skiles didn’t see the need for a big man coach? Wtf?

by Rosenscrubs on Sep 22, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Physics

The physics for a 7’ big man isn’t the same as a 6’ PG. Skiles never appreciated the difference in conditioning or IMHO, how they play. He was quoted about not recognizing how conditioning and practice for Bigs was different. It didn’t help to have him to test that theory on Chandler and Curry – two uncoachable guys.

Given Curry and Chandler were uncoachable. Brand and FA Brad Miller developed very well in Chicago. Fizer was a tweener.

Today it would be helpful to have a guy like x-coach Bill Cartwright on the team, but that bridge was burned. He’d be a good asst. for Thomas, Noah and Grey. IMHO Grey needs to get more serious about his game.

by Noe_Valley on Sep 21, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions

Is Gray even on the team?

I wasn’t aware he signed anything yet. Has he? If the Pargo signing was big news how could I have missed the splash Gray would make?

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by cranscape on Sep 21, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions

I think gray could be a good big man coach

he is likable, knows allot about playing in the post, knows the moves and fundamentals well, his problem is athleticism…or lack-thereof

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Sep 21, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions

How could I have missed the splash Gray would make

Was that on purpose? You know, since Gray is fat, he would make a big splash.

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Sep 21, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Ding ding!

I find it is easier trying to be funny than try to speculate on Deng’s bone regeneration for example. Gray had better sign with the team or we will lack anyone to poke fun at. No BG, Thabo, Noc, Gray…what would people do? Tyrus’ IQ has been run into the ground already. Maybe Salmons’ jab jab jab step will be next on the list.

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by cranscape on Sep 21, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions

vinny provides enough fun for us fans

by sin on Sep 22, 2009 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions

Tyson Chandler is uncoachable?

Um, no, he didn’t get along with Scott Skiles.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 22, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Uncoachable was harsh but he was erratic.

What FOX Sports sez today: “Tyson Chandler (26) doesn’t scare opponents when he has the ball in his hands unless he’s about to throw down a putback dunk or a lob pass. In addition to his offensive limitations, Chandler is a magnet for personal fouls. In any event, he’s found his niche as an erratic role player.”

Small, salad tong hands, physically fragile, sensitive to criticism.

by Noe_Valley on Sep 22, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions

I often thought

that having Mike Brown for that short period of time was a help. After he left (let go?), the big men sucked even more than they did before he got there.

I like this move…even though we don’t even have any big men. But who’s making logic of this?

left shark - "Kirk needs to go and join Ben Gordon and L Deng somewhere else trade Deng and Hinrich they no good"

by NormVanBeer on Sep 21, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions

Athletic power forward w/ a face-up game?

Umm….

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by tyger1147 on Sep 21, 2009 10:59 PM CDT reply actions

Luol Deng!!!

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Sep 21, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions

James Johnson? Taj?

Tyrus?! Or that other guy?!!

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by cranscape on Sep 21, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh god...

Sidney Green: 6’9", athletic PF w/ a face-up game drafted 5th overall, .515 TS%, 16.5 REB%, 7.4 AST% through 3 seasons w/ Bulls
Tyrus Thomas: 6’9", athletic PF w/ a face-up game drafted 4th overall, .512 TS%, 14.3 REB%, 7.4 AST% through 3 seasons w/ Bulls

by YaoPau on Sep 22, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs

Did you mean to post that here?

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by cranscape on Sep 22, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah

in response to your mention of Tyrus. It’s the only mention of Tyrus on this thread so far.

by YaoPau on Sep 22, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Gotcha.

I think people are emotionally distancing themselves from Tyrus. He is our athletic PF who would most benefit from a coach like that. Maybe he isn’t as “out the door” as it seems or maybe they are hotter on Taj than anyone suspected and he is their big project.

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by cranscape on Sep 22, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions

he's out the door

because there hasn’t been a single word of a long-term extension, and the Bulls insist on this getting under the cap in 2010 nonsense which leaves him just as abandoned as Gordon.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 22, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions

If Bosh is the reason he's gone...

would you complain?

Of course if we got nothing in return a-la BG7 then you obviously have reason to bitch.

by 72-10 on Sep 22, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions

I definitely would not complain

if the end result is Bosh.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 22, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions

So who did they get this coach for?

Taj? I wouldn’t think it would be Noah…

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by cranscape on Sep 22, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions

maybe James Johnson

and Noah still has plenty to improve on offensively.

And never forget that there is possibly no organizational plan, and Green was hired after Reinsdorf spotted him looking at want ads and teared up. You can’t trust anything when there’s the inconsistent meddler.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 22, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions

lol @ "possibly no organization plan"

I can see Joakim developing a few strong “back to the basket” moves with some focused and concentrated training on his footwork and positioning. Just a few though…

by Rosenscrubs on Sep 22, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

So the Bulls have replaced Del Harris with nobody

Oh well, at least they haven’t lost anything.

by Big D on Sep 22, 2009 5:15 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

I read a few times toward the end of last season

that Del Harris basically didn’t to anything but show up, and deposit paychecks. I don’t think he’ll be missed.

by kozzer on Sep 22, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions

very true.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 22, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions

That sounds like what I do at work

Or at least what my goal is everyday…Im not sure if its just me but Im finding it hard to be optimistic about the season…Even in the best case scenario after the first round the bulls will be watching the playoffs at home with me..Hey lets bring back jo jo english to teach the rookies how to get his ass whipped while were at it

Tyrus Thomas is really Stromile Swift with a retarded mask on..Think about it Same height, same school, same athletic ability, same sucky ass work ethic, same no real position having retarded statement making fucker. News flash retard. Sloan doesnt like lazy ass jump shooters who have 1 for 17 games. Fuck u stromile.

by drakedog on Sep 22, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions