multiple 60 win seasons, 2 mvp awards for Nash, 2 visits to the Western Conference finals, 1 altercation away from going to the finals, and 5 straight seasons where they finished 1st or 2nd in their division, and the Suns weren’t “pretty successful”? The Bulls would be lucky to touch that level of failure in the next 10 years.

A little lesson – the last 10 years of the Bulls have been filled with “utter failure and disappointment.” The last 10 years for the Suns have had years of great success and some failures. I guess the Cleveland Cavs, Orlando Magic and Denver Nuggets should also be classified as utter failures as well. I mean, they didn’t win the championship.

I guess we as bulls fans should be happy. We never been good enough to have had a disappointing playoff appearance. Every playoff appearance for the Bulls is success! Ten years of rebuilding, fuck yeah!

I still would have happily been a Suns fan for the Mike D’Antoni tenure, I can’t remember what it’s like to root for a team that is actually supposed to contend for a title and does so.

Cleveland was a more consistent defensive team though theres no doubt. I find it hard to say the Magic were a better defensive team still than them I’d if anything say its even.

But to me Clevland and Boston (but more talented than the Heat or Hawks) both had to rely on it a bit more and Lakers-Nuggets were kind of like that on the offensive side. (but were more talented than a Dallas or Utah…well at least mentally for Utah) The Magic and Rockets may have been the best as far as a good balance to me.

If LA is ranked 6th and won the title with also the Mavs 17th getting to the 2nd round I just think its not cut and dry with those ratings. Your offense can help your defense though and vice versa to me as long as its still to a certain extent.

Defense AND offense wins championships…

And people who point out the Spurs and Celtics seem to forget those teams were also very good offensively.