I hope Wade doesn't come to Chicago.
by IamClassic on Aug 12, 2009 7:42 PM CDT
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PrintI really hope Wade doesn't come to Chicago. Who cares if they're two Chicago guys!? who cares if it creates buzz!? The only people that care about those type of things are the people that get paid by those type of things. All that is is hype created by the nba and the media. The only thing that really matters is if that combo would workout or not, IMO... it wouldn't. Imagine a team with two Jordans...it just wouldn't work, I'm not saying that wade and Rose are in the same league as MJ, but just for the sake of comparing their roles on a team... that would mean we would see less of Rose's incredible talent and have to share the superstar spotlight with wade. Lets be honest, Rose can score easier than wade can, so why rely on someone like that when we already have someone 100xs better who can fill that void, and WANTS to fill that void. Going to a Bulls game would be like reading Playboy just for the articles, we want to see Derrick run, jump, dribble, drive, dunk, and take it to the basket effortlessly with ease. I think most basketball enthusiasts would rather see Rose than Wade play. Even wade would rather see Rose play than himself. Jordan didn't need another superstar on his team, he just needed a sidekick like Pippen and the rest of the supporting cast. Rose is this Bulls generation's Air Jordan, so why ruin that by bringing in a media darling to the team, it would totally mess up fate. But I believe whatever happens is what supposed to happen, so we'll see come 2010.
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Is this a joke?
One day if we are very lucky we can hope rose can score like wade.
by BoxingHideout on Aug 12, 2009 8:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
defense?
clutch? Finishing? Getting to the Line? Wade would be jordan here, and Rose would be scottie…thats how it looks right now…things could always change though…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Wade is better than Rose on EVERY level!
Weak fan post!
by Master Whitlock... on Aug 12, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Rose is faster, 40" vert, better handles, gets off the ground with ease. Wade is just a little taller and shoots a little better.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
If basketball were the Olympics, you'd have a point.
I thought we fought in Iraq for freedom of speech
I do think Rose
Is faster….and could potentially be more athletic (which is saying a lot, I don’t know if we’ve seen all of Rose yet), and I do think Rose is a more skilled passer, but Rose has a long way to go to get to Wade’s level (Wade’s more clutch, a better scorer, knows the game better, a far far far better defender)….
Thurston Moore is a rock god
you would rather have hinrich/salmons over Wade?
Wade is a bonafide superstar in the prime of his career. It is absolutely insane to say you don’t want him on your team based on his talent as a player. I really am starting to think that you haven’t even watched Wade because if you have you would know how versatile he can be and that he gives us an actual superstar at the 2. Just look at the Olympics and the style he played, he is a player ANY team wants and it is not like Rose is a 6’4 SG, he is an unselfish pure PG that a player like Wade would thrive next to. Just imagine the matchup nightmare it would be for teams to have great defensive guards for BOTH Rose and Wade…nobody here is trying to bash Rose here but you are just being completely illogical
uh no
the defenses could take both big men off of Noah and Tyrus and sub in extra perimeter defenders
Then the bulls get exposed as a team with no legitimate big men, again….for the 1000th time
Your comment is a joke.
Have you ever seen Rose play!? U basically can’t stop him from scoring once he gets to the paint. You obviously are not an enthusiast. He’s faster, stronger, and jumps higher than anyone in the league. The only disadvantage is his shooting, and that will eventually improve.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
i doubt you have
name two stat categories rose beats wade in
by Stacey_Is_King on Aug 12, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Because Wade was better?
Look at the Heat! THE HEAT MADE THE PLAYOFFS AS A 5 SEED. With Wade and a giant pile of crap.
Look at the Bulls! The Bulls had much, much more talent than the Heat [excepting Wade/Rose]. Yet they were the 7th seed.
Wade scored something like 30 points a game and had over 100 blocks. His D was great and he came u pwith spectacular winning plays. Wade was in the running for MVP. Wade is somewhere between 1 and 4 on the list of ‘best current NBA players’ right now.
Derrick Rose isn’t in the top 4 in PG’s yet.
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Wade was a pathetic defender until last season
You are trying to compare rookie Rose to 5 year (in his prime) Wade.
Youre wasting your time and ours……
If you remember rookie Wade, he played a lot like a bigger Rose, and was probably even worse defensively than DRose. DRose made a sick block on the taller (and also very athletic) Rondo in the playoffs…..I don’t recall rookie Wade doing that. He didnt even do stuff like that when they were in the finals.
If you are saying Wade’s better than Rose, you must have a time machine and can tell what Rose will play like in year 5, lol.
Do you Wade supporters even think about the logic of this argument at all?
That’s like saying Chris Paul is a better Floor General than Jason Kidd just cause Kidd’s a dinosaur that I might be able to outrun at this point. Kidd in his prime was at least the leader and poised PG that CP3 is (not as good of a scorer mind you). Rose hasn’t begun to show his upside yet….
If you want to be accurate at all compare rookie Wade to rookie Rose. Not as different as some of you seem to think. Someone should look up the stats, I’m too lazy, lol.
But seriously, I am skeptical that Rose will be as good as Wade, but from rookie performances, I don’t remember Wade playing any D whatsoever and I dont
remember him being nearly as good as he is now. Did you guys know that Wade is not a rookie or sophomore even? If you know that than you know he has made tremendous growth since being Rose’s age.
Be Fair to Rose or he’ll get some GD’s to make you believe. (If youre not from the Chi you may not understand the joke….) Did Wade have that kinda gangsta connections? (To his credit probably not,lol) Rose needs time to grow up….He’s still afraid of public speaking. In a few years he wont be the mumbling gummy bear muncher that he is now. Then let’s see what you have to say about DRose.
Oh and just in, MJ’s not as good as Wade either cuz he’s old and slow now……get real, kids
Not hard to
If you want to be accurate at all compare rookie Wade to rookie Rose. Not as different as some of you seem to think. Someone should look up the stats, I’m too lazy, lol.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Aug 14, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
“Selected 5th overall in the 2003 NBA Draft by the Miami Heat, Wade quickly emerged as a productive player on a youthful Miami Heat team and averaged 16.2 points on 46.5% shooting with averages of 4.0 rebounds and 4.5 assists per game”
He (Rose) averaged 16.8 points on 47.5% field goal shooting, 6.3 assists and 3.9 rebounds per game and was also named to the NBA All-Rookie First Team.
The facts speak for themselves: Rookie Rose was actually better than Rookie Wade, for the assholes that say Wade is obviously better than Rose will be.(not you Prevenge)
Rose scored slightly more, rebounded almost identical, and slaughtered Wade in assists…… and Rose is shorter than Wade, lol.
Get real Wade riders…..Rose is on pace to be better than Wade! And remember also, that Wade played NO defense back then either.
-shouldn’t have even responded Granny Walters
Wow.
I didn’t see your first nesting comment. Sorry, I got blinded by rage at IamClassic for not wanting Wade here. My perspective was that we’re talking about right now. I would prefer having Wade on this team as compared to not having Wade.
I think Rose could be better, but that’s a mighty high bar for him to reach …
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
agreed
I’d rather have Wade than how we are now……
But I’d honestly take CBosh (even if he is overrated) because then the Bulls would have a low post presence. With Bosh and Noah, we’d get every rebound,lol. I just don’t see Wade and Rose winning it all with no low post presence.
Bosh is a face up PF.
He’s not a low post presence.
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
He shoots more jumpers than jump hooks. Def. a perimeter PF…I think because he’s tall…people think he’s a low post presence…he’s not….a taller more talented Drew Gooden with slightly better D.
He's better than Drew Gooden at everything, so I guess that's a compliment
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 17, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I meant only as far as rebounding and defense
I think Bosh is a post presence but not a low post scorer. Maybe he’s not ideal but it’s way too hard to find a good old “back-to-the-basket” big man anymore. I think Yao really had the potential to be amazing but he seems to have absolutely no “killer instinct”.
Eddiy Curry was actually becoming an elite low-post scorer (very slowly though) when he was here in Chicago, and that right there says it all. Even more sad is Eddy Curry nowadays…..one of the worst regressions I’ve ever seen.
please Yahoo
make it stop!
left shark - "Kirk needs to go and join Ben Gordon and L Deng somewhere else trade Deng and Hinrich they no good"
by NormVanBeer on Aug 12, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
How am I spam?
I’m just telling it how it is. And not sugar coating or fabricating anything.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
angryandy
is that you?
48 minutes of intensity...RIP NVL.
by Lt.Dan on Aug 13, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Can't be.
There’s evidence of punctuation in IamClassic’s posts.
I thought we fought in Iraq for freedom of speech
Although the points
still make just as much sense as angry andy’s sans puncuation posts did…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Aug 13, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is angry andy officially gone?
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
by Dionysus2.0 on Aug 16, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
No he's still here, and he's still angry.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Aug 17, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Terrible.
"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush
This guy IamClassic is his own Special Breed of Fucker!
I can understand if you don’t think Wade is the answer for the future of the Bulls, but there is no way that Rose is better than Wade cuz he can jump! Wade is a GREAT player, & Rose in time has a chance to be a great player.
by Master Whitlock... on Aug 12, 2009 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
I hope Wade comes so I no longer have to associate myself with someone as dumb as you
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
How was Pippen not a superstar??
He was named one of the 50 greatest players in NBA history. He almost led the bulls back to the finals without Jordan. He was an olympian, a great defensive player and a great all-around basketball player. Its not like he was Tyrus Thomas out there.
by Rosenscrubs on Aug 12, 2009 10:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
he's not.
Jordan was the greatest who ever lived. Pippen was a superstar. Wade is a superstar. And Rose is a young player with all the skills to become a superstar.
by Rosenscrubs on Aug 12, 2009 10:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
whoa...calm down dude
I like Rose as much as the next man. But it takes a greater body of work than a rookie season to be considered a superstar. Superstars tend to get their teams past the first round of the playoffs. Give the kid time to grow before you put him in Jordan’s (or Pippen’s or Wade’s) league is all I’m saying.
by Rosenscrubs on Aug 12, 2009 10:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Superstar just means youre a household name
If you watch ESPN than you know Rose is already a household name…..If I recall, Vinsanity was a superstar before even making a significant playoff appearance. MJ was a superstar in year one…..Air Jordan shoes (the first shoe endorsement of that magnitude) came out in his second season……Rose got his shoes already too……If you got your own line of shoes than your a superstar in the NBA. I’d say he’s more like a Chris Bosh type of star now than a Wade, but a superstar none-the-less. Besides, every time there’s a DRose scandal he gets more press coverage than almost anyone……. No one notices when a no name gets in non-arrest type of trouble.
Only a superstar would be under the microscope this intensely their rookie year….
Man, some of you are desperate to knock Rose……Shit, I’m convinced of his skills, and I originally wanted Beasely, lol. Admittedly the wrong choice….I will be a man though and admit I was wrong and Rose is a rising superstar. Man up people! (unless your a woman.,..then just cut Rose some slack).
he is a rising superstar...no shit
But if he gets injured this offseason and never plays basketball again then what is he??? What’s his legacy? Who will give a shit about him then? Who’s gonna buy his shoes? Get over yourself man. Nobody is knocking Rose. You’re just being an asshole.
by Rosenscrubs on Aug 15, 2009 1:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
AND
Are we seriously talking about Carmelo? I mean…I respect what the Redeem Team did and all…and Denver looked good in the playoffs with Billups at point but…seriously…are we talking about Carmelo???
I understand that “Superstar” can be defined and interpreted many ways
by Rosenscrubs on Aug 15, 2009 1:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Now youre trying to say Melo is not a real superstar,,,,,
I agree I was being an asshole, but now you’re being an asshole again.
I hope Melo goes to your house and pimp slaps you around for a lil while. Sorry to break it to you, but if youre a top two scorer, then (duh duh duh) you are a bonified superstar. You’ve got to admit you are trying to define superstar more rigidly than anyone I’ve ever seen……By your logic Wade isnt a superstar either….
Honestly, Wade goes nowhere in the playoffs without Shaq, bottom line.
Are you related to Wade or something? Maybe cousins? Or just a crush? lol
never said Melo wasnt a superstar...
Matter of fact, I’m done with the whole superstar thing. Maybe I do have a man crush on Wade. Lol. He’s from the Chi and he’s a beast. But my point was that Jordan, Pippen, and Wade have put on legendary playoff performances. They have been the best players on the court at times in NBA finals games, the highest level of basketball where greatness is defined. They have bonifde legacies. Wade led that team to a championship, not Shaq. Anthony and Rose have not led their teams to any such successes (yet), and thus do not deserve the same respect. Anthony actually has earned more respect than Rose since he has accomplished more. I just feel like a second season would be appropriate before we start calling Rose “this generations Jordan.” But I like Rose…A LOT. Feel me?
by Rosenscrubs on Aug 15, 2009 11:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
One.
:P
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Could Jordan guard Jordan?
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Aug 14, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Not with the hand-checking rules
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Pace-adjusted stats
Look into it.
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 14, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
BRING IT!!
I can take all you guys on.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
by IamClassic on Aug 12, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
BRING IT!!!
You little teeny boppers. Who are not really enthusiast, but oblivious youths who follow everything the media tells them.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
Wade wouldn't be my first pick, but if he is the only one available out of the stars I'd rather
Rose have some help from that caliber of player than suffer playing with a bunch of mediocre players like he is doing now. Great players have languished on teams during the best years of their careers in some cases and I’d prefer Rose actually get a chance to win it all while a Bull.
Wade is more adaptable than many people think. Over the years he’s changed the way he plays to help his team. He’s dealt with the best and the worst as far as teammates go and managed to get his team a ring and last year take a bunch of scrubs into the playoffs. Lately I’ve noticed he’s added the three ball and uses double teams to open up shots for his teammates. Remember when MJ started to age a bit and adjusted his game so he could be just as effective but without quite the punishment he was physically taking with his body? Wade has been improving his outside shot and maybe won’t have to take the role of the slasher that would conflict with Rose’s game. Wade will be a double team threat that will help everyone out.
Like I said, there are a few other guys I’d rather have, but if other guys are locked up and Wade is available and willing it wouldn’t be the end of the world.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
It's angryandy with grammar!
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Aug 12, 2009 10:35 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
Hey, I was going to write that!
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Aug 13, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Check out his signature.
I’am going to start using the “contraction” I’am from now on.
I thought we fought in Iraq for freedom of speech
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You're my assistant! You're supposed to back me up and go get me juiceboxes whenever I want. Now go get me a juicebox!
by chibullsfan03 on Aug 12, 2009 10:58 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Did I really commit that serious of a sin for you to say "may God have mercy on your soul"?. I don't think stating my opinion on a sports team would count as a cardinal sin.
do you?
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
yes
you said going to a bulls game is like reading playboy for the articles. I’m a blazers fan and even I find it offensive.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
by premthegrem on Aug 13, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe you should read my post again.
Only if somebody comes in and tries to steal DRose’s shine is when it would be like reading Playboy just for the articles, its something called a metaphor. That would mean we would see less of what we really want to see, and that is Roses’ unique god given ability.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
I read your post again.
That comment still doesn’t make sense. You didn’t state the qualifier in your OP, and that qualifier isn’t implied. It would behoove you to clarify the different arguments in your OP and actually provide some supporting reasons with them. You have a bunch of opinions, and provide absolutely no evidence to support these claims. That is why everybody is denouncing your post as pure drivel.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
by premthegrem on Aug 13, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That isn't a metaphor
that is a simile.
by Super-Structure on Aug 13, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Roses’ unique god given ability.
We already have a player with that ability…Tyrus can jump.
48 minutes of intensity...RIP NVL.
lol, are you Tyrus himself saying such nonsense?
Not even Tyrus’s mother would pretend TT is as talented as Rose….
Oh crap
If Wade came here, we would have two superstars. We would be screwed! Paxson’s plan is starting to make sense now.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Aug 13, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think anything Artest says should be taken with any kind seriousness.
referring to your amusing signature.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
as true as your statement is,
the irony lies in the fact that Artest probably truly believes it in his own crazy world.
Realize, us blazer fans hold B-Roy in as much esteem as you bulls fans hold D-Rose, but that doesn’t mean I believe he is the best SG in the league. He still has to improve his D in order to reach Wade status, and he has miles to go to reach Kobe.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
by premthegrem on Aug 13, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm more of a 86' Jordan, 04-07 Suns, and 08 and beyond Rose fan myself.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
Yards maybe.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 14, 2009 4:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that Rose...
could be as good as Wade, relative to his position; that said, I don’t see how having to guards to run isolations with, who can both create and who are both first tier talents is ever a bad thing.
by Super-Structure on Aug 13, 2009 12:51 AM CDT reply actions
You would rather watch Rose play with Hinrich?
maybe they can get jalen Rose instead of Dwayne Wade. Are you a bulls fan?
only lawyers and English teachers should care for grammar are you one?
The Pirates,Reds,Royals, and Padres are not major league teams
by angryandy on Aug 13, 2009 3:02 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
that's rude
Jalen was decent….and at least his commentary is funny….sometimes
You must be new here.
“angryandy” in his first post on Blog a Bull wrote the Bulls needed to build the team around “jalene rose” (sic).
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Aug 14, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
So wait.
We shouldn’t get Wade because he’s better than Rose?
Oh no! We have too many talented players on our team! We need to get rid of some!
We can’t have more than one star! That would be wrong!!!
Let me just roll my eyes a bit at this. A bit.
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Iamclassic
what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Calogero on Aug 13, 2009 8:10 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
I'm stuck in a time loop!
Aaaaaaahhhh!!
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
in this case we wouldnt be able to add anyone new..
I remember Michael dribbling at the top of the key. Everybody knew to just get the hell out of his way. - Steve Kerr
A team with two Jordans.......
The Dream Team
And they were good.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Who could guard 2 Wade's?
Or Wade and Rose? Rose’s athleticism is up there with Wade, and Wade is the real deal #1-#3 player. Frankly I’d rahter have Wade than Rose on our team….Rose has potential to be in the upper echelon class, but Wade is that upper echelon class….top 1-3 player in the league.
Who can the defender’s guard? If they doubled them both up heck even Ben Wallace would score 20 in that scenario on easy dunks because he’d be left wide open…..
Wade has the killer instinct, Wade has the athleticism, but mostly Wade has the game. Not wanting Wade if available is crazy….
Thurston Moore is a rock god
ur a funny guy
Lets be honest, Rose can score easier than wade can
fu-nn-y
The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-
by Belize on Aug 13, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
IamClassic
YouareDelusional
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 13, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You're absolutely wrong on every level.
Nuts.
by smash! on Aug 13, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This is Rose time! Let Wade stay in Miami!
Can’t understand these people who have a chance to have their own star develop and are always reaching for some other team’s star whose career may be nearing it’s end. This is Rose’s time! Let Wade die in Miami!
I can
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Aug 13, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Aug 13, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Basketball Afficionado
You’re one, I can tell. Hard to pick out from all of these idiots.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
Do you guys all go to high school together or something?
I can’t imagine this level of stupidity coming from an adult… much less three of them.
by Rose Colored Goggles on Aug 25, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Exactly how Wade felt when they got Shaq or Kobe with Gasol. Nothing good comes from having two stars on a team. Nope.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
I wouldn't mind getting Amare, Dirk, Boozer, or even Bosh.
Anybody except a media darling who gonna try battle Rose for his role on the team. It’s all about image and perception, and Rose is the star, and battles stars on other teams. Look how the Gordon Rose combo turned out?
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
so let me get this straight...
you would rather have Rose “battle” other stars rather than those stars come play alongside Rose? And all because you’re worried about rose’s image and perception on the team?
Ok hypothetical situation, I’m just trying to gauge the general idea of your argument…salary implications aside you would be against a lineup of Rose, Wade, LeBron, Gasol, Dwight Howard with Kobe, Carmelo, Shaq and Chris Paul coming off the bench (very hypothetical…) because it would make Rose take a back-seat in image and perception and role on the team?
If any of those other guys come here (minus Boozer)
you gotta believe they will be media darlings and the savior of the team should anything good happen after they arrive. Why you single Wade out I have no idea. You think those other guys will be second fiddles?
Rose was rookie of the year with BG and had great stats. Looks to me like it worked out great besides the business side of things.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
Rose has been the Savior of the entire bulls organization since he got drafted.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
We've not been saved yet. What's your point?
You think that if Bosh comes and we suddenly start winning more that he wouldn’t get a lot of the credit for it because he happens to not be Wade? You attack Wade, but ANY of those guys showing up on our team will have the same kind of effect. They won’t be second fiddle.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
I don't know about you,
but I hated taking the Celtics to seven games in the playoffs. So much unneeded media hype!
I would much rather have lost in four or five, or not made the playoffs at all.
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Stars can develop with other good players
It’s a fascinating concept, I know, but don’t’ fret Bulls fans, you are allowed more than 1 really exciting player on a team. It’s ok, David Stern said so.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 13, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The Gordon/Rose combo actually worked out well besides defensively. Rose is not a superstar yet, we need a real superstar which we haven’t had in 10 years. When Wade was a 3rd year player, they brought in Shaq….did the Heat fans say “No we don’t want a media darling being the main player”…no they got a big name star and he helped the rising star win a title.
Why can’t we do the same thing….it’s idiotic. What are we supposed to do just surround Rose with marginal player because he may not get to be the top dog. Do you want the Bulls to win a championship or are you D Rose’s gf/jumpoff/grroupie cause you sound like one of the latter….
"we need a real superstar which we haven’t had in 10 years"
Whats Derrick chopped liver?
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
He isn't even an all star yet. He probably will be
but even then where does that get you? The great PGs and their teams in this league last year all pooped out in the playoffs. Having a great PG doesn’t necessarily seem to be all it takes to win. You need another guy and Wade is on the list of guys we should be after.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
honestly
do you think that the ref’s will let Rose get raped over and over with no fouls called (like last year) again this year? Not Likely! It was cuz he had to pay his rookie dues….he’s that good, and he’s shown none of his true game yet. Wait til he gets a jump shot (this year most likely). A blind man can see Rose will be a perennial all-star (unless he buys a bike and goes riding with Jay Williams..) so go buy your new Rose jersey.
Throw in 5-8 more foul calls a game and Rose is an allstar hands down.
You cant argue with that, that’s just fact.
i cant think of a team off the top of my head who have won a title with ony one allstar
Boston has 3. Kobe counts as 1.5 all by himself and he has Gasol. San Antonio has a couple. I would prefer the bulls to get an allstar pf. But if that’s not possible, then to not get Wade (if available) would be silly. There’s enough posessions in a basketball game for Wade and Rose to both get theirs. And they would probably get a bunch of endorsements and marketing opportunities together. I don’t understand how having D-Wade could possibly be a negative thing for this franchise.
by Rosenscrubs on Aug 13, 2009 4:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
1993-94 Houston Rockets.
i cant think of a team off the top of my head who have won a title with ony one allstar
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Aug 14, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
not to support the other side....
but that team had Hakeem the Dream and Clyde the Glide. That adds to 2 last time I checked…..not to mention Big Shot Bob, (almost an all-star, sometimes, lol).
1993-1994
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 15, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Eric Riley scored more for the 1993-94
Houston Rockets than Clyde Drexler did.
Drexler was still in Portland .
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Aug 15, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
imagine a team with two jordans.... it just wouldn't work.
imagine a team with five jordans…. would they even win a game? ;-)
the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS
they would win every game
unless some of those Jordans are his no-good sons, lol.
The five Jordan team would be
DeAndre Jordan at center, Thomas Jordan at PF, Michael Jordan at SF, Reggie Jordan at SG and Adonis Jordan at PG.
40 wins and a first round exit.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Aug 15, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Bird, Magic, Jordan, Russell, Wilt, O. Robertson...
Let Derrick be what he was meant to be.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
Those guys had All Stars playing with them.
All Stars who could have lead teams on their own legitimately and who didn’t diminish their shine by being part of the team. The MJs and Magics of the league didn’t do it on the own. Are you even old enough to have watched those games back then? I guess you want Rose to be the KG in Minnesota for the best years of his career so he can unquestionably and without effort be the top dog.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
by cranscape on Aug 13, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
REC
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -- Michael Jordan
by bennythebull on Aug 13, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
no, but the bulls need a big man not a another perimeter player
Wade would not equal finals, just slightly better playoff ousting
you are acting as if a team has never been led by 2 guards before
Teams can win with two their two best players as guards – they will make the game easier for one another. No team could possibly guard Wade and Rose if they learned how to play off each other. Plus the inside guys would be constantly getting easy looks.
by Basketball Smurf on Aug 17, 2009 5:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Scratch it.
You’re not angryandy with grammar. You’re Paxson.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Aug 13, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or Barkley, Payton, Iverson, or Drexler...
Great players who would probably give their left nut to have played with another All-Star in their prime and made a push for a championship. (Not to belittle Kemp, Kevin Johnson, Terry Porter, or Aaron McKie . . . well, maybe to belittle Aaron McKie.)
I thought we fought in Iraq for freedom of speech
if that was the case then we as fans probably wouldn't have seen all those amazing buzzerbeaters and classic plays by those players. And it wouldn't have made them the great players that we look back on now.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
e.g Barkley's game winner against San Antonio, Payton's alley oops to Kemp, K.J's dunk over Hakeem, etc...
all those amazing plays in basketball ball history were made because of the stars of their respected team
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
Yeah, because if two star players play together they suddenly forget how to play.
I am beginning to think you never saw a second 90s basketball. Or the 2009 playoffs for that matter.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
by cranscape on Aug 13, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still feel kinda bad about Barkley.
For the most part he was just another villain I’d see play against the Bulls (and I mean that as a compliment), but I keep forgetting that despite his personal successes nothing ever came of it. Doesn’t seem right, but it does happen.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
awww. crannie shows the soft heart.
and for who of all people? charles barkley!!!!!!!
figures.
the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS
It's you!
I missed you a lot. No, really. While all these new annoying people are popping up, taking up the slack, etc, it seemed like the old faithful were disappearing. Don’t ever leave. People of your caliber are hard to replace. Especially ones that add that personal touch every now and then. I have no idea why you stalk me, but it does make me feel special. I’ve never had a personal…well… I’m not sure what to call you.
I liked most of the players from the 90s. The Bulls wouldn’t have been as fun to watch without some worthy adversaries. Too bad for them the Bulls were around and taking all the rings. I’m not sure our ten years in purgatory has made up for it yet.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
Drexler played with Olajuwan on the 1994-95 Houston Rockets Championship team.
Or Barkley, Payton, Iverson, or Drexler…Great players who would probably give their left nut to have played with another All-Star in their prime and made a push for a championship.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Aug 14, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
you included the retort in the question, clever.
Aren’t you being a little hard on Kemp? There were a couple of seasons where Kemp outshined Payton…..and the haircut….
If we were to sign Dwyane Wade this summer.
We could trade Derrick Rose for a current star big man, and essentially build a championship team in one quick year.
Chicago Bulls Blog and Forums. NBA Power Rankings.
I finally agree with you.
Sorry andrew ;D
by Stacey_Is_King on Aug 14, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Imagine a team with two Jordans…it just wouldn’t work”
That is where I stopped reading.
by RyPac13 on Aug 13, 2009 11:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
"I really hope Wade doesn't come to Chicago"
That is where I stopped reading.
left shark - "Kirk needs to go and join Ben Gordon and L Deng somewhere else trade Deng and Hinrich they no good"
by NormVanBeer on Aug 14, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
dwayne wade bought a townhousevin chitown
he will be a bull and you will see him alot more on blog a bull in the future
only lawyers and English teachers should care for grammar are you one?
The Pirates,Reds,Royals, and Padres are not major league teams
by angryandy on Aug 14, 2009 3:30 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
DWade is gonna blog here?
Is Matt going to be his agent and have that stipulation added to his contract?
48 minutes of intensity...RIP NVL.
no matt will just get "PAAAAAAID"
“satchels of undeclared monies sent from
-Ben Gordon’s-Dwayne Wade’s agent.”
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
I hope that punk gets on Blog-a-bull
he wouldn’t last 10 minutes…..lol
IamClassic is actually some hoodrat that Wade kicked to the curb
So she’s a little bitter, as you can tell by posts like these.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
by Big D on Aug 14, 2009 5:57 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
btw, i'am a guy with a bigger purpose on this earth than you can ever fathom.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
Al Gore? Is that you?
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
by cranscape on Aug 14, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You take up more space than we ever thought possible?
I love it when people are so self-assured of their own importance: it makes their blindness that much more understandable.
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
not saying i'm better than anyone, I just was born with a bigger purpose.
i know its very difficult for you to understand but maybe one day u will.
OMGoodness, I'am ahead of my time.
I thought that his response, when paired with my comment, was enough.
More than enough.
:D
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
I'm ashamed as well, man.
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 14, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
The offseason
It means people will do anything to do something
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Michael Vick, is that you?
“what is there to be ashamed about?”
“I’m not here to cause comotion, I’m just trying to shed light.”
“not saying i’m better than anyone, I just was born with a bigger purpose.”
“btw, i’am a guy with a bigger purpose on this earth than you can ever fathom.”
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
Mike Vick is illiterate though
and now he can’t afford to have someone read it to him anymore
Salmons is better than Wade since he is TALLER.
Height is everything in the NBA, which is why Manute Bol, Gheorghe Muresan and Shawn Bradley are in the Hall of Fame.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
Regarding the post itself
Pippen wasn’t just Jalene Jordan’s sidekick, he was probably the second best player in the league at the time, and almost led the Bulls back to the finals without Jordan, if it hadn’t been for one call. He was just overshadowed by Jordan.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
While I won't argue that Pippen wasn't just a sidekick,
calling him the second best player in the league at the time (I am assuming you are calling Jordan the best) is IMO completely false. Just off the top of my head: Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Karl Malone, David Robinson…all of these players were arguably better than Scottie Pippen. Remember, Olajuwon won the championship as the main man for the first Rockets’ title.
(Also, Shaq was better).
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
That year I would say
Olajuwon
Robinson
Malone
Pippen
Drexler is in no way better than Pippen…maybe as a scorer….
by C Smoove on Aug 18, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK, maybe that was overexaggerating
but he was still a top 5 player in the league. Just for that era (not a specific year), it was probably
Jordan
Olajuwon
Robinson
Malone
Pippen
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Aug 18, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Wade is a poor man's KOBE
and Kobe is a poor man’s MJ.
Bottom line is : 3rd best player in NBA or not, Wade wouldn’t help the bulls much.
They need a big man not even more imbalance than they already have. Without a low post presence the Bulls aren’t going to finals ever again.
Don’t lie to yourselves, Unless we trade Rose for DHoward, we aren’t gonna win anything with Wade. Signing Wade would mean closing the door on any chance of making the finals….
Wade is not a poor man's kobe
Wade has put up numbers better than Kobe’s the last couple of years. Wade averaged 30 pts a game last year on 49% shooting from the field. He had the second highest PER in the NBA. Wade’s assist percentage (40%) is 17 pts higher than Kobe’s. Wade takes 13% more shots from the inside and shoots a higher percentage on those shots. One can make a very convincing argument that Wade is better than Kobe.
To say the 2nd or 3rd best player in the NBA would not help the Bulls much is silly. Especially when that player is so much better than every player the Bulls have.
by Basketball Smurf on Aug 17, 2009 5:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Terrible, terrible comparison.
Wade a poor man’s Kobe? Kobe a poor man’s MJ? It might make sense if these guys were cheap.
by Stacey_Is_King on Aug 19, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
And besides
We’ll already have LeBron anyway so Wade’s chopped liver, lol.
And I guarantee Lebron actually is better than Rose
Everybody keeps saying that, but last I saw Brand, Jefferson, Bynum and a few others were playing pretty well in a classic type post game. They’ve been injured, so maybe nobody has noticed, but they seem to be lost among all these murmurs of “there are no true big men left.”
Oh, and Shaq plays a pretty classic big man game as well. Duncan a bit, even Nene. They are there, perhaps a bit lost among the Okurs and Dirks and Barganis of the NBA.
The way you guys are welcoming him with bad comments and posts here
I doubt it now that Dwayne Wade will want to come and play here with these fickle fans
If you dont like me please ignore me and my posts
The Pirates,Reds,Royals, and Padres are not major league teams
Wade's decision is based on the fans?
Now I get it. Go Wade!
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Aug 20, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Dwayne wade may decide to stay in Miami and not deal with the media and fan pressure in this blowhard city
If I was Wade I would stay in Miami too if I was happy regardless of how much cold Chicago and new York may double my salary
If you dont like me please ignore me and my posts
The Pirates,Reds,Royals, and Padres are not major league teams
Yeah, Wade should sign with a team of 3rd graders for $10 bucks a game
Way better than pressure by the media and fans.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Aug 21, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
40-42 without him
close to 50 wins for sure with him .you people decide which type of season you want to follow this year. Will be watching a rerun of last year minus ben gordon
If you dont like me please ignore me and my posts
The Pirates,Reds,Royals, and Padres are not major league teams
If this is a rerun
The ending will be worth the ridiculous drama surrounding Paxson, Vinny, and Reinsdorf. Cliffhanger May should be another doozie. If the offseason is a rerun, I’m starting a group on Facebook for the Bobcats or Hornets to come to Chi and be our second team.
Pardon my first post on the blog being a response to a man who is too angry to punctuate. Although, his posts work well in contrast to the rest because the grammar on this site is pretty decent for a blogg-o-sphere.
Chicago Bulls Management - Wasting millions on moronic rosters since 1999
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Aug 23, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
"Minus Ben Gordon"
So, we miss the playoffs?
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
I love
how our team can operate without a real leader… instead we had an overconfident (relative to his abilities), puzzled helium balloon who managed a crap-ton more damage than good. See, being a Bulls fan is Patriotic.
Chicago Bulls Management - Wasting millions on moronic rosters since 1999
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Aug 23, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
I agree
with one point in your article and that’s the fact that it probably wouldn’t work out as well as many would think. Both are slashers and get into the lane and unless we have a 3 or 4 who can stretch the defense out to the 3 point line and make opposing defenses pay then a Rose/Wade combo wouldn’t be an ideal back court
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