Bulls Do Good, Hire Brown
The Chicago Bulls organization took a lot of heat for their decision to let Ben Gordon leave via free agency this off season. The venom spewing from talk shows and especially in the blogs was nasty, some stuff I read was down right malicious. When a franchise makes a questionable or unpopular move it’s magnified tenfold over a positive decision the same franchise may make. Last week Bulls GM Gar Forman reached out to Former Bull Randy Brown and hired him as Director of Player Development.
Brown has been in the news recently due to his financial troubles, filing bankruptcy, and even selling his 3 championship rings. However you look at this it’s a good move to hire one of your own.
Gar Forman actually helped recruit Randy Brown to New Mexico State when Forman was an assistant coach there. Brown played two seasons at NMSU before being drafted by the Kings. Sacramento is where Brown spent the last two years as an assistant coach. Brown played 12 seasons in the NBA as an aggressive, defensive minded, pesky guard. His minutes increased every year of his 4 year Bulls career, culminating in his best professional season in 98-99. He was a valuable member of the second Three-peat.
Hiring this former Bulls not only brings him back to the Bulls family, but also brings Brown back home, he’s a Chicago native and played his high school ball at Collins.
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I already know the Bulls motto: loyalty means more than performance
As long as Gordon kisses Reinsdorf’s feet he may come back one day as well.
I don’t think the Bulls or Reindsorf are evil. They’re just proving to be shitty at trying to win. That’s what matters, not helping Randy Brown out.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Shame on you for this
Simply, to badmouth the organization for showing decency and charity to someone who has clearly suffered enormous setbacks in his life indicates to me that, regardless of your facility with language and your keen analytical mind, you have a lot to learn about what is important in life. Confucius said "He who wished to secure the good of others, has already secured his own." And Ghandi said that “…anger is too important an emotion to be spent frivolously.”
IMHO, the direction and tone of this blog have recently headed in an unfortunate direction, with name calling, mock ire and whining replacing the real discourse and statistical analyses that separate this blog from most of the adolescent blather in cyberland. (see yesterdays “the snobbish bull manefesto” to see others unhappy with the constant carping)
No matter how little regard you may have for the Bulls ownership and management, this was a class move and should be noted as such. Your criticisms will have much more validity if you can acknowledge when the organization does something right. And there are worse things in the world than organizational loyalty. Just ask to folks at General Motors.
Finally, just for the record, to say that the Bulls are shitty at trying to win is contradicted by the facts. Only the Lakers have won more titles in the last 30 years. (The Lakers (9), Bulls (6), Celtics (4), Spurs (4), Pistons (3), Rockets (2), Sixers (1) and Heat (1) are the only teams to have won a championship). Ask the fans in the 22 cities that have NEVER won even one championship if they would like to have the Bull’s track record.
I’m pissed off about losing Gordon too, but I’m not going to try to make giving Randy Brown a way to feed his family seem like a bad thing.
by Cannoli on Jul 7, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
jobs as charity!
If they think Randy Brown will help in player development, great. He actually has more experience than VDN in coaching.
If they hired him just to feed his family, that’s uninspiring, if a ‘class’ move. I don’t think it deserves equal treatment as a ‘good’ thing to balance out the ‘bad’ things that actually effect winning games.
(I tried to be tactful in my statement saying they’re bad at ‘trying’ to win, but I understand being called out on that comment. They used to be a top-notch franchise. I don’t know what happened. It’s possible everything was really just due to Jordan. Or what used to be enough to win then doesn’t cut it now. )
And here’s news for you: What your favorite basketball team does is inherently unimportant ‘in life’. So please check that perspective shit at the login screen.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Too bad the Bulls are a professional sports franchise, and not a charitable organization
You posted 5 paragraphs, and there wasn’t one word in there about whether Randy Brown is actually qualified to do the job. Sorry, not everyone is going to shed tears for someone who has blown several million dollars. I feel worse for the guy who was laid off from his $10 an hour job than I do for Randy Brown.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
by Big D on Jul 7, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Ghandi once said
“sign Ben Gordon you cheap fucks”.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
(even I think Ghandi was stretching the anger there)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If only Randy Brown had been hired as GM
Spending money wouldn’t be an issue!
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
by Big D on Jul 7, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
zing!
that’s cold man, cold. funny, but cold
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 7, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, "Spell my name correctly you stupid white boy" :)
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 7, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not about being cheap!!
BG does not fit with this team. The only way we could’ve kept him is if he accepted 6th man type money.
BG as our starting shooting guard for the next five years. Come on. Do you really think that’s the solution???
Just because the organization didn’t blow there wad on BG doesn’t mean they won’t if someone better, more suited comes along. They obviously didn’t think he is the future at that spot. And I’m wondering why you think that he is??
On the other hand as a sixth man he has tremendous value. BG doesn’t have that mindset though and I can’t blame him for gunning for a starter position.
by Bulls Mouthpiece on Jul 7, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You are a child
without the ability to look at yourself. Buddah says “Life is either joy, or learning.” You are obviously too busy having fun at other people’s expense to learn anything. As for checking perspective at the log-in screen, I’m afraid that’s not possible. You have invited my perspective and my opinion by hosting an open site. It wasn’t me who crossed the line. Of course, you can ban me from the site if it will make it easier for you to be so oblivious to other’s pain and suffering. Reinsdorf/Forman is an asshole because he gave Randy Brown a job? When was the last time you did anything for anyone else without wanting a cookie and a pat on the head.
It’s your blog, brother. Have at it.
by Cannoli on Jul 7, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Confucius also said "He who will not economize will have to agonize."
Guess Randy Brown never heard that quote.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
since when is this an open site?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
also
at this point I’ll just assume you’re doing a bit. Which is hilarious, so I have little reason to ban you.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I thought his post was a bit, too until I got to the end and it wasn't funny!
For my true fans, I feel bad for them. The longtime fans of the Chicago Bulls – I just felt like they’re being cheated. Not with me, but just things that happened in the past. I feel like the fans deserve a lot better. - BG7
The Bulls would have won zero titles, if Michael Jeffrey Jordan had not fallen in their laps.
Only the Lakers have won more titles in the last 30 years.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 7, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Truest true. And I hate to think what would have happened if they landed the #2 pick that year… then again that was a different regime, so maybe they would have have figured it out. Nah.
For my true fans, I feel bad for them. The longtime fans of the Chicago Bulls – I just felt like they’re being cheated. Not with me, but just things that happened in the past. I feel like the fans deserve a lot better. - BG7
you wanna talk about bad mouthing?
You badmouthed angryandy! This is what you told angryandy:
Why use a spellchecker and ruin all the fun? I’d be angry too if grew up with just an elementary school education.
So you stop contradicting yourself. It’s a sports blog relax!
by LoveForTheGame on Jul 8, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with everything you said!
Cannoli, couldn’t agree with you more! The shocking thing is when some people can’t accept when they’re wrong. When they react about “check that perspective shit at the login screen,” they reveal how small they are.
when you can't operate on a basketball blog
without needing a reminder about ‘real life’ perspective, than you reveal what a dumbass you are.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 9, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
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why is this a good move again? sounds like a charity case to me
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Jul 7, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions
besides being a good PR move...
there’s nothing wrong with helping out someone out, as long as they are qualified for the job. He was a popular teammate, good in the community, and he has coaching experience. Good to help out a Chicago guy.
Maybe the Bulls should reach out to Orlando Woolridge!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 7, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
are you on their PR team?
there’s nothing wrong with it. I just don’t care.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
actually
if they hired Brown simply for sentimental reasons and not because he can actually help in player development, then it IS a bad thing.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I sure wish former big man coach Mike Brown had shittier financial planning in his life!
see?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe charity is why the Bulls hired VDN
Yeah, they could have hired a better coach, but VDN needs to feed his family!
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 7, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No shit, where's this big-man's coach we keep hearing about?
I’ve never been on a basketball team, going all the way back to when I was 8, that didn’t have a skill coach for the bigs. HOW does an NBA franchise consistently fail to employ one? (And please, let’s NOT keep this hire in the family!)
For my true fans, I feel bad for them. The longtime fans of the Chicago Bulls – I just felt like they’re being cheated. Not with me, but just things that happened in the past. I feel like the fans deserve a lot better. - BG7
Possible Bulls Big Man Coaches...
Dalibor Bagaric
Chuck Nevitt
Brad Sellers
Kornel David
Dickie Simpkins
Jack Haley
Dragan Tarlac
Granville Waiters
This would make for a great poll!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 8, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
What's Dave Corzine up to these days?
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
I, of course, vote for Granville Waiters ;)
Will Perdue should be on the list.
Maybe Bill Wennington could do double duty as a coach during practices?
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 9, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I knew you’d check in for Waiters!
On a serious note I think Stacey King would be a good Big Man coach
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 9, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
?
Do I need to be on the PR team in order to post a blog of my opinion?
Brown has 2 years coaching experience and 12 years in the league, he’s as qualified as anyone, and with his financial problems he’s a walking talking example of being cautious with your money.
"In this new role, Randy will work with players before and after practice, overseeing on-court skills development. As a former player and coach in our league, I feel Randy’s experience will be of great benefit to our young players in numerous areas of their development."
I see nothing wrong with reaching out to someone (that is qualified), if you are in position to do so.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 7, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
there's a difference in seeing nothing wrong
and feeling like they should be lauded for it. I also see nothing wrong with the hire, which is why I said nothing about it when it was news last week.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 7, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
As Ron Burgundy said
Agree to disagree…
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 7, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha, yea throughout all of the arguing all I keep thinking is: didn't this happen like two weeks ago?
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 7, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not hire Pippen then, if the idea is to help someone out who had financial problems?
He did a hell of a lot more for this franchise than Randy Brown did. Of course, Scottie was also outspoken and ruffled feathers during his career.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
by Big D on Jul 7, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I like the hire, not for "do good" reasons
Randy Brown could defend. Can he teach what he knows? We’ll see. Reggie Theus gave him a shot in Sacramento, but this was a stretch because Theus was a rookie NBA head coach yet still not a VDN rookie head coach.
I do like that Brown isn’t an assistant and is instead a back office basketball hire. Hopefully he has the right teaching methods for Rose because we know Rose can learn and learn fast.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
What's Lindsey Hunter going to do. And Miller-will he only play?
Won"t Randy have to meet regularly with VDN to discuss points of emphasis. Why does this process sound scary?
Put enough monkeys in a room and you'll get Shakespeare
Surely we the more “brains” we put around VDN eventually we’ll get something that looks like coaching.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
"Gar Forman actually helped recruit Randy Brown to New Mexico State when Forman was an assistant coach there."
That, I didn’t know, but it’s interesting to see how thoroughly the Bulls seem to be run on basis of favoritism for friends, family and old cohorts.
In life...
it’s all about who you know… just look at the Bears coaching staff!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 7, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
And that hasn't worked out great for the Bears either
Pro sports is a competitve industry; there’s not much room for cronyism or nepotism. At least not if you’re actually trying to win.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
Well, that's not strictly true... there's plenty of room for it
It’s pretty much endemic to most teams I think. Almost surprising when it’s not, I’d go so far to say.
Of course, most teams are habitual losers that don’t seem to be trying hard to actually win, so it’s not like I disagree in the grand scheme of things.
For that matter, I don’t know if the system is set up so the average team has much chance of winning.
This...
nepotism debate is absurd. The sports organizational world as well as a majority of the corporate world is rife with nepotism. This was nepotism for a positive end, while in other cases it was for a negative end.
Um, actually it's cronyism, not nepotism
Unless Randy Brown has relatives working in the Bulls organization.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
they're all Jerry's kids.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 8, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think...
Love is the director of community relations… he overcame his stuttering problem and now gives motivational speaches
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 8, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
(which was, for the record, over 12 years ago since i don't remember what year it was he came)
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

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