Pargo meets with Bulls Front Office
[From the FanShots. Why? I'd rather try a younger player with something to prove, maybe Rashad McCants? It's so hard to figure what the team should do with the rest of its roster when it doesn't come from a mindset of winning. -ed.]
Pargo may be back.
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maybe tyson chandler will return
In a mulligan.
And then is 5 years we can have BG back.
Vinny "Remember, I'm Italian" Del Negro no longer has Ben Gordon on his roster. What will his offensive coaching strategy be now? He won't be able to just yell, "Shoot it, Ben!".
Marcus Fizer, Michael Sweetney and Eddy Curry should also be available.
Elton Brand too in 2010 when the Bulls have cap space.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 5, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Sweets is in with the Celtics...
Brand and Curry are not worth their contracts at this point…
I think Fizer could still play in the NBA, even given a shot…
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
Good call
retarded if we do it still. :P
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
I was just thinking the same thing
There has to be plenty of teams that would be willing to give him a better offer than a one year deal for around two mil. If he takes this he must really like playing in his hometown.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 5, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions
An upgrade to Roberson.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 5, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
When you consider being a locker room cancer,
Stephon Marbury.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 5, 2009 4:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Things I like about this:
- Pargo can fill in for 10-15 minutes a night — either spelling DRose or coming in as instant offense and playing alongside Rose for short stints.
- Pargo is another cheap stop-gap who probably won’t command a multi-year deal.
- Because Pargo will likely come for either (1) a cheap deal, (2) a short deal, or (3) both, he is likely 2010 friendly. It seems the Bulls are putting all their eggs in that basket. This doesn’t seem like a particularly smart plan, but hey, it is a plan, which is more than I could say before. I think it would have been smarter to pay Ben last year (6 years54 mil), keep him as an asset, and then move him in a shinier, better 2010 piece, but what do I know?
So yeah, bring back Pargo for the LLE.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Jul 5, 2009 7:35 AM CDT reply actions
This would be fantastic.
Exactly the type of 4th guard we need.
"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush
Pargo is terrible
McCants, Wafer, Carney?
If you think you won’t be seeing plenty of a Rose-Pargo backcourt, you’re nuts.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 5, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions
Pargo should be an upgrade over Roberson,
and someone needs to be on the floor as a 4th guard in garbage time or when St. Kurt picks up too many fouls.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 5, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
people complain about BG gunning and they want Pargo? Pargo can’t even play in a real offense. At least McCants or Wafer could manage to stay on the floor for five minutes without shooting ten times.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, in fairness, we don't even have a "real offense" right now
"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush
I think article said the Bulls were picking Pargo because he'd sign a 1 year deal for less than $1M
McCants and Wafer would likely cost more and they don’t have that much room under the luxury tax(?) Something like that.
I agree that it would be better to add a young 2 guard that has some chance, however small, to turn into a player. Even an undrafted FA would be a better idea.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 5, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather not waste the money, just play Kirk more minutes, he can obviously handle it
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 5, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, what they really should do is trade Kirk
And sell off everything they can (including Noah if it means they can move a bad contract). Get the highest draft pick they can and save as much cap space they can. If they are going to go for suck, go big.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 5, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
who needs backups?
no one ever gets injured
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 5, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, we still need a 4th guard.
You really want to only have 3 guards on the roster? Injuries happen.
"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush
Kirk's never been injured before
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
Unless you count his months off
for a finger problem.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
I was trying to be sarcastic.
Was considering adding that to the end of the post, but oh well.
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
What about Anthony Parker?
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
I would much rather have any of the guys you mentioned, but if the idea is to go for 2010, then you have to sign someone for
a one-year deal and cheap. Does Wafer, McCants, or Carney sign for a one year deal? If so, then sign em up. I’d love McCants. He’s just like BG only a bit worse and crazy.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Jul 5, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe they can just wait out everyone
and sign who’s left? You’re likely correct those guys will ultimately sign for more.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 5, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I vote for none of the above
not that my vote matters.
I agree with yfBB...
We could use the Thabo trade exception for Bellinelli, Watson…we could make an offer for McCants, Wafer or even Carney…
Pargo is not the answer…I would rather grab a young player with something to prove…
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
Pargo is joining the Bulls.. great
If this is not an indication that we are going straight to the lottery, nothing will.. Thsi team is one injury away from being the Clippers..
Is that an insult?
Not all that much of a difference between the franchises when you look at the post-dynasty years. We have a couple more first-round playoff exits but that’s largely because we had a competent coach for a few years there. Similar owners, similar goals for owning a team. I wonder who made more money since 1998—Sterling or Reinsdorf. That seems to be the real goal for both owners.
I was trying to insult the team
But you made a good point. I need to work on my vicious, insulting criticisms. I have to take a lesson from angryandy.
No, I really liked your point
and it got me thinking about whether the Bulls franchise is really any better than the Clippers franchise. Since July 1, 1998, it’s basically a toss up. Incredibly sad.
But at least the Chairman will get his $3.5 million luxury tax payment this year…….
Good God this is a horrible move
Let’s bring back Andre Barret and Eddie Basden while we’re at it.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
Shit, Sweetney is making a come back... go get him!
For my true fans, I feel bad for them. The longtime fans of the Chicago Bulls – I just felt like they’re being cheated. Not with me, but just things that happened in the past. I feel like the fans deserve a lot better. - BG7
This makes Hinrich expendable.
Yeah, I said it suckas.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
par-go that way --->
I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell
First Nate Robinson, now Pargo...
Geez, it’s too bad we didn’t have a late first round pick this year that we could have nabbed a seasoned college guard with in this guard heavy draft!
Sigh.
For my true fans, I feel bad for them. The longtime fans of the Chicago Bulls – I just felt like they’re being cheated. Not with me, but just things that happened in the past. I feel like the fans deserve a lot better. - BG7
Pargo is a good 11th man who can come off the bench when the team has trouble scoring
The idea that he can in any way be considered a “replacement” for Ben Gordon is laughable, though.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
Excellent pick-up!
Pargo can hit big shots at the end of games. He can shoot – If they get him for what we have left under the cap this is a excellent pick-up.
We were mad that BG was taking Rose's 4th quarter glory away
but we are fine with PARGO taking those shots? If Pargo is in at the end of the game you are watching the Clippers. Oh, god. Why can’t I like a different sport?
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
WHY IN THE HELL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT JANERO PARGO?
We used to think about trying to win a champtionship.
Why bother…
always a great contribution.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 8:33 AM PST
This move only makes sense if Hinrich is leaving.
The Bulls already have a 3-guard rotation in place.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
They need at least 4 Guards
Kirk is a baller and will be here next year.
by Jesus Presley on Jul 5, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
You always need 4 guards
Pargo would probably play sparingly unless someone was hurt.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 5, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Heck, Vinny likes to put 4 guards on the floor at once.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 5, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
In all fairness, Luol Deng is a pretty awesome center
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
18/8?
Try 18/ [b]9[/b].
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
The 9 is supposed to be bolded.
Gah, I give up, I’m going to stop posting for a couple hours.
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
This move is already paying off in entertainment value
There was comment on trib site that basically said Pargo had a better handle and D than Gordon and can shoot just as well. I enjoyed that.
I think it’s interesting that so many people who watch the Bulls think Gordon basically sucks.
Here's a little secret I've learned from careful study:
Most people don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.
This is especially true in things like politics, but if you look at sports fandom, it’s not a lot different than politics. The majority of fans, just like the average voting partisan, don’t watch all that many games, don’t have a serious interest in understanding the details, and will usually gladly contradict themselves within two or three sentences of writing something. Among more serious fans, increasing understanding of the details is, sometimes consciously but sometimes unconsciously, usually a means to the end of supporting their emotional attachments.
by Sports2 on Jul 5, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
:(
I try to believe in the intelligence of the mob!
I try!!
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
SBNation communities are excluded from Sports2's study.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 6, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice
I totally agree… After having season tickets for the last few years and discussing the game with the people in my section, I’ve learned that more often than not, you’re better off keeping your mouth shut. Most people don’t have a clue about what a screen and roll is, but they’ll gladly tell you how bad Gordon or Noah are.
High Profile Turnovers
Have really hurt Gordon from a public perception perspective.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 5, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yo! Pargo was in the Euro League last year. Euro League isn't the NBA.
I don’t know why or how europe works, but it looks like he played for two teams in 4 different leagues? Weird.
Anyways, it looks like he has decent stats over a small sample size in decent minutes for the Russia team, and not so decent stats in limited minutes for the Greek team.
Was Euro successful for Pargo? It doesn’t look like he dominated. He’s also 30 yrs old. Upside? None. It seems like a “Well we need somebody” sort of move.
If the Bulls sign him.
It better not be for anything above 1 mil. I really really hope the Bulls aren’t going to try to outbid Europe preemptively.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 5, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Pargo’s a perfect fit for us! Let’s offer him $8 million a year for 5 years!
Yeah
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
In Europe, clubs do the following (if there are among the best in their country) :
1) They play for their national championship (the Greek league for the Greek team, the Russian league for the Russian team, etc).
2) If they are among the best in their national league, they play in one or the other european competitions. The Euroleague for the best teams, the Eurocup for the next best teams. This happens on top of competing in their national league.
Pargo played for a second tier Russian team first (and so did both the Russian league and the Eurocup with that team), and then for one of the top tier Greek teams (and so did the Greek league and the Euroleague with all the best European teams).
It’s that simple :-)
The Game chose him !
why not Wafer?
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
i've just about given up all hope on next season already...
…this is pathetic
http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/
Im sorry for your loss
dont forget to put your season tickets for cheap on ebay….ben gordon wouldve wanted it that way….stick it to reinsdorf where it hurts most
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Pargo? Seriously?
Was Ron Mercer and Khaled El-Amin not available? I really feel the amount of ineptitude in this organization combined with JR’s obsession to stay way under the cap is finally demolishing the decade-long smoke-and-mirrors act they have pulled on Bulls fans. It’s all been a sham.
1998/9- Blowing up the team for cap space- going to sign Tim Duncan, Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady with the allure of Benny the Bull and the Jerry Crumbs.
1999/2000- Elton Brand is our cornerstone. His mother has huge hands.
2000/2001- Marcus Fizer and Tim Floyd. Enough said.
2001/2002- New plans! Tall twin towers! Who needs a 20 and 10 guy when you can have the next coming of Shaq and KG? Highschoolers are all the rage, and young bigs always develop with the teams that draft them, right? Oh, and Ron Artest- sorry, but you’re never really going to develop a jump shot anyway- so welcome to Indiana! Jalen Rose and his unselfish play will lead us to the promised land.
2002/2003- Jay Williams, the perfect point guard to compliment our "twin teen towers." Responsible, mature young leader (whoops). Let the confetti rain (for each win).
2003/2004- Change in new direction. Jerry Paxdorf puts his vision in place- hustle, character guys with little natural ability and goofy hair. The age of "Kurt" begins.
2004-2007 Skiles pulls out the rest of his hair, Gordon, Deng and Kirk prove to be slightly above average and we make it to the playoffs a few times. Trade away Curry for being fat, turn him into a PF that we refuse to develop, give away Chandler for room to sign Ben Wallace (defensive specialists over the age of 30 never witness a decline in skills, right?). Highlight: sweep of defending champion Miami Heat. Lowlight: Malik Allen taking development time away from Tyrus Thomas, the age of the corpse.
2007/2008- Three slightly-above average players without a post presence apparently can’t win the East- or reach .500. Bulls fans are treated to the coaching wizardry of Jim Boylan.
2008/2009- Derrick Rose, Derrick Rose, Derrick Rose. Chicago finally has a superstar in the making. The organization will build around Rose, and do everything it can to spur his development and ease him into becoming a star- like hiring a rookie coach who has more experience gelling hair than he does with a clipboard. It’s not like that D’Antoni guy has a great track record with coaching point guards anyway…
2009/2010 Derrick Rose, Janero Pargo and cap space- the apex of a decade of process and due diligence (whose brother Drew Diligence will be coming off the bench to provide some scoring, so who needs Gordon anyway?). A trio that can generate profits for decades and give the Reinsdork group enough breathing room to purchase failing sports franchises from Phoenix all the way to Bhutan. See ya’ll at Grant Park.
I am close to hanging up my Dragan Tarlac jersey and giving up.
Organizations win championships. Just not this one.
by JoNo's Swag on Jul 6, 2009 3:00 AM CDT reply actions 9 recs
sad js sad
summer of 2010: we fail to get bosh/wade/lebron/amare/anything
2010-2011 we suck ass
summer of 2011 derrick rose asks for a trade.
2011and beyond: rose bolts and we become the clippers
by sin on Jul 6, 2009 4:31 AM CDT up reply actions
well done, you get a rec
especially for the use of ‘Drew Diligence’
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 6, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
We ARE the Clippers
always a great contribution.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 8:33 AM PST
At least we don't have Zack randolph
looks at grizzlies
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
Isn't Von Wafer available?
For my true fans, I feel bad for them. The longtime fans of the Chicago Bulls – I just felt like they’re being cheated. Not with me, but just things that happened in the past. I feel like the fans deserve a lot better. - BG7
chicago tribune poll
has 73.6% of people wanting to bring him back. WTF????
i didn’t like him then, so i doubt i’ll like him older and worse now.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Because of that one fucking playoff game
They didn’t even that damn game….how can I root for a team where I hate 90% of its fanbase.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 6, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
They "know" Pargo is just as good as the over-priced Gordon
All either one of them can do is shoot, so what’s the difference? Right?
Sadly, I think several of those votes came from the Bull’s front office.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 7, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
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