I'm Glad He's Gone
I, for one, couldn't be happier Ben Gordon signed with the Pistons. And not just because a spot has opened up on the Bulls roster, giving me a chance to live out my NBA dreams - I think a 5'9" Jew with a solid 8-foot jumper is just what Pax and Gar are looking for - but because Gordon, and his giant contract, took more away from the Bulls than he added.
Much has been said about Gordon being a defensive liability, but the point bears repeating. In that historic playoff series loss to the Celtics, Ray Allen averaged 23.4 points per game under Gordon's watchful eye.. By contrast J.J. Reddick held Allen to under 10 points less than that, which was a big difference maker in the Magic's 7-game series victory on their march to the NBA finals (and Reddick only makes $2.8 million a year).
But even with Gordon's failings on the defensive end, the Bulls lost a player today that gives you 20 points a day with no health issues. Even with this gone, I think this benefits the Bulls in the long run for 5 reasons:
1. Derrick Rose
With Gordon out of the picture, Rose becomes Vinny's number one boy. If Rose is the guy you're building your franchise around, you don't want him sharing the spotlight with a ball hog like Ben Gordon. Gordon's hero complex took the ball out of Rose's hands in pressure situations. Sure this payed off for a few games in the playoffs, but remind me again how that series wound up for the Bulls? A lot has been made about wondering where those 20 points a game will come from now that Gordon's gone and the obvious answer is Derrick Rose. Now you give him the ball in crunch time and give him the experience he needs to develop. Still Rose is still young but that's why you benefit from my #2 reason.
2. Kirk Hinrich
It was common knowledge that if Big Ben were to stay with the Baby Bulls, Hinrich would have to go to make room for Gordon's behemoth of a contract. With Ben gone the Bulls are in a position where they have to keep Hinrich around. What you have in Hinrich is a solid defender and team leader backing up Derrick Rose who's biggest deficiencies are as a defender and a leader. With Hinrich gone you force Derrick Rose to develop with out a solid back up. Hinrich is a 40% 3-point shooter who averaged 10 points coming off the bench last season and who probably deserved more minutes than he got, albeit in an injury year. Look for Hinrich to step back into the leadership role that he lost last year and help Rose develop into the great player we all know he is.
3. John Salmons playing with Luol Deng
From 2006 to 2008 Luol Deng was the Bulls' top performer, averaging almost 20 points a game for the two seasons prior to this past injury plagued under-performing season. Deng missed nearly a third of the season and all of the playoffs with an injury to his right tibia. All was not lost, however, when John Salmons descended from heaven and shot an average of 18.1 ppg. These two never really got a chance to play together, but if Deng can stay healthy and put up numbers like he did before his injuries these two can be a potent duo. With Deng back in the starting rotation and Gordon gone, Salmons can move to the 2-guard and provide the height and defense lacking in that position during the Ben Gordon era.
4. 2011
Let's face facts, with or with out Ben Gordon in a Bulls uniform Chicago have no chance of beating Dwight Howard and the Magic, Kevin Garnett and the Celtics, or the brand new Shaq attack out of Cleveland with the current front court. Don't get me wrong, the Bulls are still a guaranteed playoff contender even with Joaquim Noah clanking low-post shots and Tyrus Thomas drifting off into la la land, especially in the East. But until the Bulls have some real effective big men to their roster, we won't see a seventh banner hanging in the United Center rafters for some time. But Gordon was let go because once the 2010-2011 seasons rolls around those 55 million bucks are better spent on one of the marquee big men that become available that season. Chris Bosh is the big name thrown around, but Pau Gasol and Denver's Nene are also available.
5. Kobe Bryant trade rumors
Okay this last one is BS, but I couldn't conjure up a fifth and you need 5 reasons on a list for aesthetics. Honestly do you need more? I think I've proven my point. Enjoy the Motor City Ben, I'd wish you all the best but honestly I'm rooting for you to lead the Pistons in the same direction as another Detroit franchise: General Motors.
Jake Boyle
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some good points made.
pretty much spot on. I just cant see fishdicks playing as good as he did last year though.
by drosekillsall on Jul 4, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
J.J. Reddick
As much as I dislike JJ Reddick, I think he would be a positive addition to the Bulls because he’s a spot up shooter that can defend.
T.O. Estes III
by T.O.E. on Jul 4, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the general concensus
is that Reddick is a terrible defender
by Jamaicanpi on Jul 4, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excluding Hinrich,
he’s a better defender than anyone the Bulls have coming off the bench
T.O. Estes III
by T.O.E. on Jul 4, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Redick was surprisingly effective in the playoffs, actually.
Also, his last name only has one d.
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
by Prevenge on Jul 5, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as i see it
redick can be somewhat effective against less athletic guards like ray allen. he might be even better than gordon because (i think) he is taller, allowing him to bother his jump shot more. but against more physical, athletic guards, he struggles to match up with their quickness and strength. ben gordon has the same problem, but redick is worse.
by smegmatic on Jul 5, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with everything
except Points 1 to 5.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 4, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just to be clear, I also disagree with the introduction.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 4, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jake, let me be the first to congratulate you and say your incoherent rant makes no fucking sense.
by Sports2 on Jul 4, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Good lord
What you have in Hinrich is a solid defender and team leader backing up Derrick Rose who’s biggest deficiencies are as a defender and a leader.
…we are doomed.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
by cranscape on Jul 4, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good Post
nice points and I too am happy he went to detroit.
by Chisportfan on Jul 4, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Redick is a terrible defender, he couldn’t guard his own shadow. Allen was probably just cold and is 33 and just finished a grueling 7 game series. So I give Redick no credit and I doubt he was guarded by Redick the whole time anyway.
Seriously, you all are over the top. I agree with not signing Ben but damn you all act like he was the biggest scrub of all time.
Yes his D was mediocre…but most shooting guards(including DPOY JJ fucking Redick) defense is not good. Is Ray Allen a good defender? No. Michael Redd? No. Ben’s D was just as mediocre as them but since he’s not 6’5", it was “awful”.
I agree his D was lacking but he was far from the worst defender in the league.
Was he a ballhog at times? Yes….but again most SGs are ballhogs at times especially when they are in the zone or hot. He averaged 3 assists which is pretty average for a SG.
I like Hinrich but he is not a leader. When has he shown leadership? I like him as a 6th man and I like his D but he makes too much money to be a 6th man. He should have been traded yesterday.
Salmons is a fluke. He’s an average player who posted a pretty decent season. An average man to man defender, shitty team defender, shitty rebounder for his height and guess what idiots, he is just as much of a ballhog as Ben.
by C Smoove on Jul 4, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You realize that Gordon averaged 24.5 ppg in the Celtics series
If Reddick could do that, than maybe you would have a point.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 4, 2009 10:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
averaging 38% shooting and playing 44 mpg
I agree losing Ben hurts, but the 24.5 ppg needs to be view in context
by patagonia on Jul 4, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the context of Gordon producing while injured, yes.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 5, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that it's been documented
that Ray Allen had some fairly significant injuries against the Magic that affected his shooting, either a pulled groin or hamstring. No one knew it at the time, of course, which is why non-basketball idiots out there started saying things that made no sense, things like “J.J. Redick is a great defender” and the like.
I’ll try to find a link that talks about Ray Allen being injured…
But even if I can’t find it, or if I’m remembering it wrongly: just because Ray Allen has a worse series against the Magic than he did against the Bulls, you’re seriously going to conclude J.J. Redick is a good defender?
What about things like defensive scheme, team defense and coaching? You don’t think that Stan Van Gundy’s coaching has anything to do with the fact that Boston’s perimeter guys didn’t put up the numbers they did against the Bulls?
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on Jul 5, 2009 1:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points Jake minus #5
With Gordon we continue to flirt with mediocrity. We couldn’t beat a depleted celtics last year, we can’t beat an elite team next year. Keep in mind gordons awful shooting in game 7 may have lost us the game. I’d rather pass On that inconsistency with solid d(which he can’t provide) and hopefully another all star(bulls? All star?) next year. We might not do great this year statistically. But we will develop and be in great shape for 2010
by njbullsfan09 on Jul 5, 2009 2:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Without Gordon, we continue to flirt with awfulness.
With Gordon we continue to flirt with mediocrity.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Jul 5, 2009 4:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just wonder who’s going to step when we are down by 2 with 4 seconds left? Will Kirk dribble in a circle and run all the time out? Salmons try and do some retarded spin move and get stripped? Will Derrick drive the lane and flip up a errant floater(probably while getting hacked with a no-call)?
I don’t consider this addition by subtraction at all. Maybe a move driven by necessity but nothin to cheer over.
by C Smoove on Jul 5, 2009 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree it may be nothing to cheer over
But it very well works for our team. I like how everyone thinks Gordon is as clutch as Kobe cuz he hit big shots in that series. Do u guys forget how many times in the past he had the last shot to win a game and didn’t? I was fortunate to catch one live vs the nets on Halloween
by njbullsfan09 on Jul 5, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even Kobe converts the 'Run to 3 point line, jack up contested 27-footer' play every time.
Or even half the time.
Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!
by Prevenge on Jul 5, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"his number one boy"?!?
wow
http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/
by NormVanBeer on Jul 6, 2009 1:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yea I am glad he gone too
sucker couldn’t play defense
take it easy
by angryandy on Jul 6, 2009 3:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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