Go ahead and keep Hinrich.

That put up a post about us that got more responses than any post on this site that was the reason for mine. I thought I was complimentary towards your team and tried to be respectful. Just talking ball with fans from another town that we have had deals with before. My post was not meant to insult but rather to hear your thoughts on us going with Miller and you keeping Hinrich who I like as a player.

As far as Paul and anyone, I don’t quite agree. Of course Paul is way better than Miller or Blake as is Williams but if either of them go down their team is done. Period. That is not so with us or you. You like your combo better I like ours no insult to you and I readily recognize that your PG combo is very good. So again I say that us two have the best PG combo int the league. Order them how you want.

As far as lumping me in the “all Blazer fans are…” group, i had to hear about Rocket fans calling our players the N word during the playoffs and I don’t tend to think all rocket or Bull fans are anything. Take them on their own merit

but the fact that you posted this on a Bulls blog at all, and your entire first paragraph, is the reason why Blazers fans are disliked. It was arrogant as hell, and your “what did I do”, attitude just makes you seem even worse.

I’d almost feel better if you were trying to troll, as you wouldn’t seem so condescending too.

Not everything keen in Blazertopia?

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I can’t stand the Blazers ‘success’, or their fans happiness. Getting a bunch of solid lottery picks is fun, but as we saw with the Skiles era, it’s all rainbows and lollipops until people want to get paid. Granted, it’s not the perfect comparison since Brandon Roy is better than anyone on the Bulls ‘core’, but still.

It’s also not the perfect comparison because the Portland owner will pay the luxury tax. So I figured the putting-players-against-eachother negotiating tactics of the Bulls wouldn’t similarly sour the Blazers(not that Ben Wallace didn’t help that too) and their young assets.

Or not?

    In the meantime, there are small fires all around One Center Court.

    That Roy is unsigned is particularly alarming and a signal that negotiations have snagged. Word is that Roy wants to sign for the maximum allowed five years, but the Blazers only want to commit to four years. A five-year deal would cost Portland about $82 million, although it won’t be determined until the 2010-11 salary cap is set.

    That a player of Roy’s talent and character wants to lock in his future with your club should be embraced and lauded. Instead, the team is nickel-and-diming him with the amount of years. It’s bad form.

    If there was ever a no-brainer in extensions, it’s that of Roy. You give him the maximum contract allowed. No hesitation. No questions asked. No nothing, other than showing him the courtesy of signing him the minute the signing moratorium ended Tuesday night.

    Toronto did it with former No. 1 pick Andrea Bargnani, who inked a 5-year, $50 million deal.

    If Bargnani has earned that type of respect, certainly Aldridge and Roy have. Especially Roy. He has done everything asked of him on the court, where he has put himself on track to become the franchise’s greatest player of all time, and off the court, becoming the team’s go-to player for public appearances and community relations as well as tirelessly serving as the team’s spokesman to the media.

    The Bargnani signing, by the way, was just more fuel to the fire engulfing Pritchard.

    The Blazers had hoped to get off paying Aldridge around $10 million a year, but now that the market has been established with Bargnani at $10 million per year, the Blazers’ will surely have to pony up at least $11 million per year for Aldridge. At least. Nothing, absolutely nothing, has gone right for the Blazers this summer.

    On Wednesday morning, Pritchard sounded weary and defeated, and refused to comment on his summer shortcomings.

What’s the matter, Pritchslappy? Try the old ‘security’ line that Pax used to use. Make sure you sound like a real dissapointed parent (not that I’d know that sound personally, but I can imagine) when guys don’t take such generous offers.

Blazers fans, rest assured that I am rooting for this all to blow up in your franchise’s face so that you can start sniping at your players and eachother and be as miserable as I am as a Bulls fan!

(It probably will work out fine though, since your owner will pay the tax.)

Hinrich? Ugghh yuck! Excuse me while I throw up lunch

I was going to post a thread on the Blazers blog when it seemed a Hinrich deal (perhaps with the Tyrus Boozer thing too) was going to go down.

I went on there and found a thread already posted there, so I just commented in there.

I must say the Blazers fans seemed like good people, nobody flamed me for a long post (though I didn’t say anything controversial) and most everybody seemed to love Hinrich as much as the people in Chicago do.

In this thread, I think the Miller being slightly better than Hinrich is a fair assertion, particularly at 7 mil a year. Of course Miller is getting older, doesn’t play much defense but he’s the type of leader that you want in a point guard. What he lacks on the defensive end and with his age, he makes up for in his durability, leadership and offensive passing ability. I would put him as an average starting point guard in the NBA and at 7 mil a year that’s a pretty fair value in my mind. Congratulations on the value signing Blazers fans, I’m fine with keeping Hinrich, always was, just preferred that we get some value to plug holes (Blake backup PG and Outlaw SG to play with Salmons or along side him if Salmons stays at 3 guar) as well as cap relief for next year.

Anyways, you guys may have taken LA for Tyrus which seems to have worked out well thus far, but as far as I’m concerned we’ll give you Tyrus and Hinrich for nothing and still be ahead (MJ obviously). You also took the wrong guy in Oden, maybe it wasn’t so apparent at the time, though I loved Durant and felt his ceiling was higher and both players were be for sure starters in the NBA provided they didn’t get hurt. I thought it was much closer than Beasley/Rose and must admit I wouldn’t have been upset at the time if we had taken Beasley. Thank god we took Rose, I must say.

Miller – Needs the ball in his hands to create for others on the floor, has zero long range game. Solid post up game for a PG.
Roy – Needs the ball in his hands and needs guys around the perimeter to knock down open shots when he drives and kicks.
So now you guys have two players that need the ball in their hands to create and neither has a real solid 3 point game. Hinrich would have at least given you guys that along with the ability to defend two guards to take some pressure off of Roy at times. The price was good that Portland got Miller at but I honestly can’t see how he fits in there. And of course bulls fans know that Tyrus trade stunk but Pax only watches the NCAA tourney for his scouting so we understand even though we dislike the move.

Obviously Rose has a very high ceiling. Your GM made the right move going with him over Beasley. If you add Blake and Millers stats together VS Rose and Hinrich, we edge you a little. Our assist to TO ratio is a little better but your potential with Rose is off the charts.

Those of you who scoff are banking on Roses potential rather than producton.

I still say we have the ywo best PG combos in the league. Most of the other combos that others list are fine but if their starter goes down they’re done. Not so with us.

I am fine with it Miller and Rose put up exactly the same numbers but I am crazy to compare them. Same with Hinrich and Blake. Almost everything I have said has been respectful and basketball related but most of you act as if me posting on your site was like I beat your sister up. Believe me when I say that our site gets more hits from more teams than anyone, including bulls fans. Oustide of maybe two responses all have been petulant whinings and none basketball related. We at Blazersedge don’t go postal on other people posting.

If I walk into a sportsbar in Chicago I am only allowed to discuss Bulls?! Give me a freaking break. The thin skinned mentality is amazing.

To take a line from your friendly bullsblogger, what a bunch of ninnies.

Glad to be banned I get into discussion with people who like to talk ball forget you whiny little girls.

You asked for it, begged for it, now you got it. Aldridge for Thomas. What a bunch of ninnies

you don’t just look at a player’s stats – you look at their fit. And Andre Miller is a god awful fit for the Blazers. Let’s break it down a bit:

He’s a historically shitty three point shooter. He’s a crappy defender. He dominates the ball that should be in Brandon Roy’s hands. His skills – penetration and posting up – will be minimized. His weaknesses – shooting and defending – will be on full display. And my point isn’t just that Kirk Hinrich would have been a better fit. It’s that Steve Blake is a better fit.

If Miller plays a lot of minutes this year, which is likely, the Blazers might actually be worse for it. They also bury Bayless. Do you think he’s going to re-up after being benched – for two years! – behind inferior players?

Hell no.