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[From the FanShots. This is all positioning quite well towards a 'we don't have enough assets' Februrary -ed.]

You have to scroll about halfway down:

"The Bulls worked out a buyout with Tim Thomas, which freed up enough money to pay Pargo the biennial exception of $1.99 million for one year. Thomas didn’t figure in the Bulls plans, though the buyout doesn’t affect the expiring contract situation for 2010 with Pargo on a one year deal."

Confirmed at Bulls.com.

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This sets up nicely for a

2011 buyout. Hopefully he cashes in one more contract and is reacquired in a third salary dump.

by nateroth on Jul 14, 2009 7:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just the fact that I care so little about this latest move lets me know my playstaion 3 will be here soon

Its a shame I have to play videogames until 2010 but this is what a life long bulls fan is reduced to after years of bad moves, suckass players and just cheapness except for that fabulous wallace singing..Why is it players I never heard of torch the bulls for 30 when we play them? For years this has baffled me. And why do i feel like the bulls are that girlfriend that just wont act right no matter how patient you are?

Tyrus Thomas is really Stromile Swift with a retarded mask on..Think about it Same height, same school, same athletic ability, same sucky ass work ethic, same no real position having retarded statement making fucker. News flash retard. Sloan doesnt like lazy ass jump shooters who have 1 for 17 games. Fuck u stromile.

by drakedog on Jul 14, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to preemptively rid themselves of a tradeable expiring contract

Thereby ensuring it’s that much more impossible we do anything constructive this year. Except, I guess, play Jannero Pargo. Of course, it was worth it… we really needed to sign Pargo immediately!!!

(fuck)

by Sports2 on Jul 14, 2009 7:59 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

They added two tradeable expiring contracts.

In Pargo and Hunter…one could argue those will be more valuable, as they are smaller contracts, which are good for “throw ins” to make trades work.

I wonder when the terms will be released…

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, but there's no sense buying out Tim Thomas's contract now if they can wait.

Maybe something comes up during the season and they could use that $6M expiring instead of a couple throw ins. This is a really, really stupid move.

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by snley on Jul 14, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe one of the conditions of the buyout was that it happen

right now so that he could catch on with another team. I doubt it makes a big difference

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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 14, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I spose that's probably the case

but at the same time, he has real value for us.

Well, sort of. I’m getting the impression the Bulls have no intention whatsoever of dealing for an honest to goodness player, so if they aren’t even gonna try, they might as well let TiT head off to greener pastures now.

I mean hey, they can always throw Tyrus in to serve pretty much the same purpose for trades. They’re both just random expiring contract dross, right? :\

by Sports2 on Jul 14, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have to take roster spots into consideration as well

if you are trading to a team that only has one roster spot open or is trying to keep the roster at 13 then it will be difficult.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woah...

Kinda harsh there dontcha think?

"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG

by Khalid El-Amin on Jul 14, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't even read what D2.0 wrote

but he sucks.

Actually you’re right, it’ll just bring down the site if I keep attacking him, so maybe I should ban him instead. I don’t think him learning how to stop sucking will be an option, I think he relishes some kind of lame rebel status here. Hope that’s not your plan as well.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

There is no need to ban me.

My comment was in line with the discussion, I just made a point S2 didn’t like…

I sometimes have a different opinion than you on what’s going on with the team, but I don’t suck. I am quite knowledgeable about both the team and the league…and, in general, my comments are well thought out…

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ehh you attacking him doesn't bring the site down.

It’s already at rock bottom.

July 1st 2009

by gobulls1124 on Jul 14, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I had no idea anti-Gordon trolls would morph into anti-blog trolls

This is a comical development. I look forward to this posse bitching and moaning about bitching and moaning for months to come.

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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lmao

i rec¨d that just to be an asshole =D

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jul 14, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand you.

Perhaps you have P.M.S. or something, because there is no reason to personally attack me because I made a point you disagree with.

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And...More importantly.

Its a good point…I don’t get some of you posters…you whine about the Bulls not making moves to improve the team next season, then they go and dump a bad player whose position is loaded with depth, then sign two marginally better players (to one year expiring contracts) who play positions that need depth, and yet the moves sucks?

When you look at the net of this move, it probably takes away about $1M overall in expiring contracts for next February, while allowing the Bulls to have something of depth in the backcourt…at the very least enough players to practice with…

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They didn't have to do it 'now'

and while it frees up some cash, they’ve all ready spent what they saved and it hasn’t improved the team at all.

Depth is not equal to having bodies to play a position.

Depth is equal to having capable talent at a position to back-up the starters w/o a significant drop off in production.

by kingj41 on Jul 14, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hold on

Pargo and Hunter are not better than Tim Thomas. At best Pargo is equal to Tim Thomas, Hunter is worse. Hunter has no business being on an NBA court. He was done last year. His greatest asset, defense, is gone – he no longer has the lateral quickness.

Tim Thomas is by far a more tradeable asset than you are giving him credit for, and far more tradeable than Pargo or Hunter. Tim Thomas will be on a playoff team this season. He is going to end up in Phoenix or San Antonio or Cleveland as a guy playing 10 minutes a game and knocking down 3s in the corner. You don’t give away expiring contracts. You can buy Tim Thomas out in the middle of the season if need be. He is simply another asset the Bulls let go for nothing.

At the very least they could have waited to the end of the summer.

by Basketball Smurf on Jul 14, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Tim Thomas was on a playoff team last year...

And was traded twice to get there…no one is clamoring for Tim Thomas in any deal, he would be salary throw in…as a basketball player, he too is done. I will eat my words in April if you are correct and he is contributing 10 minutes a night on a playoff team (something he did not do last post season), but I don’t see it happening.

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Thomas is contributing to nothing

The benefit to keeping him around was that he was a larger contract to include in a big deadline deal. I don’t see how a big deal like that is going to happen this season, at least not for a player that would actually improve the team.

I think it’s annoying that Tim Thomas was bought out so the Bulls could sign Hunter and Pargo (can someone explain why Hunter wasn’t just made an assistant coach?), but the importance of his expiring contract is overblown given the movements of the teams we would want Chicago to trade with.

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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could package Tim Thomas

with a Tyrus Thomas, Hinrich, whatever to use him in a big deadline deal, as you point out. Just because you don’t see how it could happen, doesn’t mean that it couldn’t happen. My problem is the Bulls have forestalled any possibility that it could happen by buying him out. The Bulls have limited their possibilities, prematurely, so they could resign two players who shouldn’t even be part of the rotation – Hunter and Pargo.

And how do you know the teams “we would want Chicago to trade with?” The Bulls got Salmons and Miller last year just for giving up Gooden’s expiring contract. I think Thomas could have had a similar effect.

by Basketball Smurf on Jul 14, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Even if we really wanted to bring back our own crappy FAs

We didn’t need to buy out TiT in order to resign Gray, Hunter, etc. Just pay the damn tax. But instead the Bulls follow form by giving away an asset (a decent player with a huge expiring deal that could have been very attractive to teams looking to dump salary) to save yet more cash.

Money is the basis for all moves (or lack thereof) made by the team this offseason and it continues to suck and piss off just about everyone who likes this team.

by nateroth on Jul 14, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I wouldn't pay the tax just to bring back the guys you mentioned

might as well not resign anyone and just keep TiT.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

indeed.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree as well

but my point was addressing D2.0’s argument that the move had to be made in order to get more backcourt players.

by nateroth on Jul 14, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say this move had to be made...

I am just saying its not a bad move to make as far as the make-up of the basketball team is concerned…and it doesn’t hurt the trade scenarios much, as they only lose about $1M in salary to be traded…

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think your math is a bit off

tim thomas was slated to make 6.46 million this year. buying him out and replacing him with pargo (2 mill) and hunter (1.3 mill, although only 820 K against the cap) means we lost about 3 mill in salary to be traded

by Calogero on Jul 14, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and if you start saying

“well we can now keep nelson and gray and linton” remember that those roster spots have to be filled with someone; having 1 expiring K for 6.46 mill makes better sense than 5 that add up to less than that

by Calogero on Jul 14, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

That creates roster problems for us, for the other team, and just generally doesn’t get the job done.

by Sports2 on Jul 14, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The terms of the buyout have not been released.

And I was counting Gray, Pargo, Hunter and Nelson as the players that would be retained…buyouts are for an amount less than the guaranteed coin, which is how they actually get the savings.

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm aware how buyouts work

You said there was only a million difference in tradeable salaries so what Thomas was bought out for is irrelevant

by Calogero on Jul 14, 2009 7:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I bet JR would love to pay the tax

For BG, no! But for Gray and Hunter, yeah, we would accept that

by bull83 on Jul 14, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i will rec that

by chowder on Jul 14, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I considered it an impersonal attack

And I made it not because I disagree with you, but because of your impersonal (meaning something I don’t think you’d actually say in real life) and lame response.

In Pargo and Hunter…one could argue those will be more valuable, as they are smaller contracts…

I don’t just disagree with that, I think it’s incredibly lame. And it’s lamely and limply stated. “One could argue…” that’s what people say when they’re putting forth arguments they don’t really believe themselves. Which is further lameness.

by Sports2 on Jul 15, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

February 2010 assets

-1

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Jul 14, 2009 8:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we're replacing him with

contracts that expire after ’09-10 season anyways (Pargo, Hunter, maybe Gray or another low salary free agent big).

by HINrichPolice on Jul 14, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but those guys can't be traded

it’d decimate our backcourt depth :)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone ever been bought out of two different contracts before?

I think Tim Thomas may be the first. I wish I could figure out how to get paid for not working as well as Tim Thomas has.

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Why the hell didn't they deal him in that other trade?

This organization is so backwards. They pulled him out of another deal for what now? Because they’d rather buy him out?

by kingj41 on Jul 14, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Because instead of filling out the roster spot with a player they would have gotten back from the trade

they would rather have Hunter….

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh okay

That justifies ‘everything’.

by kingj41 on Jul 14, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hunter is being brought back mainly because

of his positive mentorship of Derrick Rose. Plus, he can still be traded. Not all is lost. In fact, nothing is lost by essentially replacing Tim Thomas with Hunter + Gray/minimum FA big.

by HINrichPolice on Jul 14, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually what is lost

is Tit as a trading piece this summer and leading up to the trade deadline in 2010. I know Tit isn’t very good but he will get more interest than Hunter/Gray.

If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.

by Chi 'Till I Die on Jul 14, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

TiT will be playing for a team in the playoff chase this season. Letting him go for nothing is just stupid, but is the Bulls modus operandi.

by Basketball Smurf on Jul 14, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure...

what you’ve been doing wrong but in my opinion Tit is always go…oh, wait, you meant Tim Thomas. Uh, nevermind then.

by CubFan81 on Jul 14, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

what deal was Tim Thomas supposed to be involved in?

a Boozer trade? I never believed Tim would get it done anyways.

by HINrichPolice on Jul 14, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that trade,

but the trade that happened before that involving Marion w/ other teams.
The Bulls probably would’ve had to take a player back, but I imagine it would’ve been a player w/ less salary.
But, I’m paying zero attention to rumors now until something happens. I don’t expect the Bulls to do anything to improve their current situation.

by kingj41 on Jul 14, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depending on the buyout

it’s possible that it gives us enough room to pick up one of the many serviceable free agents still available for a small salary.

by HINrichPolice on Jul 14, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or...

it allows us to re-sign Aaron Gray.

by HINrichPolice on Jul 14, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gray as veteran big man

lmao

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-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
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by Prevenge on Jul 14, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoop-fucking-ee

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Jul 14, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sixers trying to do a sign and trade with miller

its like 6 mil 1 year, we should give them hinrich and get miller and speights..

"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"

by Faizamaze on Jul 14, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They're trying to move Brand

because they see potential in Speights. He’s not being traded.

by kingj41 on Jul 14, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn..

w.e. just thinking if a nice way to shed someones contract.. like Dengs..

"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"

by Faizamaze on Jul 14, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gar Paxdorf strikes again!

The Simpletons never cease to amaze me.

Is there ANYONE in upper mgmt who has a clue?

by NormVanBeer on Jul 14, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good riddance Tim Thomas

I would rather have Hunter the player/coach and slow-as-a-glacier Gray than Tim Thomas any day. Is there any quality analysis out there regarding how this actually impacts potential trades in the future. Don’t yall think that if ANYBODY wanted Tim Thomas he would’ve been traded a while ago. Who would really want that bum.

it is so frustrating that the only place to chat about he bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 14, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

expiring con...

never mind.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yes, yes it should

it is so frustrating that the only place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 14, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have the power!

The power to change!!!

Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!

by Prevenge on Jul 14, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's the best place

that’s why it’s the only place!

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Jul 14, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boozer was just on ESPN 1000

he said he would love to play with rose, and he would try to attract wade back home

"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"

by Faizamaze on Jul 14, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess

he could’ve said ‘no I don’t like Derrick Rose and if I’m a Bull I hope no other good players also come?’

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually, that last part

could be said by some people here. Good players like shots.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya,

But he’s still a “punk”. :)

by StephenAA on Jul 14, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

should he get off your lawn too?

48 minutes of intensity...RIP NVL.

by Lt.Dan on Jul 14, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh snap...

you sure told me.

48 minutes of intensity...RIP NVL.

by Lt.Dan on Jul 14, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey now!

::ban hammer splat::

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

See what Tim Thomas does :(

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why the sad face?

I feel better already!

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do regret not turning some commenters inevitable demise

into a kind of interactive game. But that would take some work.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every blog needs someone that goes against the grain

just like every family needs a LaToya Jackson

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

YFBB = Aaron Gray?

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jul 14, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

d'oh

gobulls1124, I forgot to include this in my parting message to you: feel free to join the BlogABull refugee camp at Sportstwo’s forums. (yes, sports2 told me he would take my tired, poor, and deranged.)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's funny, they also host the tired, poor, confused and swearing of Blazer's Edge

Though it’s not quite as bad as the Oregonlive forums. There are some good posters there that I would like to see on SBN.

If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar

by Norsktroll on Jul 14, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought this blog

hosted “the tired, poor, confused and swearing of Blazer’s Edge” :-p

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

That too

If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar

by Norsktroll on Jul 14, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Free Sabonis!

Better than that timbo fellow, it was fun when he was banned.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the heck did Sabonis4Ever do?

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jul 14, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know, he was banned from Blazersedge

Good thing Blog-a-Bull is so open and polite to outsiders.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone needs a niche!

Besides, S2 is a one way door.
We are programmed to receive.
You can check it out and time you like, but you can never leave.

by Sports2 on Jul 14, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I can think of many other words to use, but “punk” will do. :)

by StephenAA on Jul 14, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually..just give the man some "space" to vent

Remember the Noc signing.. yfbb took a while to vent. Heck it was justified!
Some people just haven’t been around long enough to determine that they too will be in the exact same position as Bulls fans, unless they’re paid minons of the Bulls org.

man up!

by exult463 on Jul 14, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as i recall it

he didn’t vent nearly as much as would’ve been appropriate. this place was still fairly nocioni-positive then, and i don’t think the gravity of the fo’s decision was fully realized.

unless you mean it took a while for the venting to build…

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Jul 14, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt did call it

he called that it was a bogus move, but maybe he thought they knew better than he did?

Then as time kept passing by and that contract became obvious as a bad contract, matt began to call it out more….i think that was when matt began to realize that perhaps he knew better than the organization….and i think that realized, if that was true…that was not a good thing at all….

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Jul 14, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Respectfully, how is this good, or news?

I don’t think there’s a player in the NBA that wouldn’t like playing with Derrick Rose.

Something good would have been to the effect that the Bulls want Boozer. All indications I’ve seen suggest they want him about as much as a case of herpes.

by Sports2 on Jul 14, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its not news

thats why it isnt in a fanshot or fanpost, but its worth a comment..

"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"

by Faizamaze on Jul 14, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed

it’s not news. when the Bulls DO something good I’ll feel good.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your not

very friendly

"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"

by Faizamaze on Jul 14, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell has the FO done

That makes you feel remotely happy or positive? He is pissed at the org and takes it out on people who post stupid comments. Boozer on Waddle and Silvy isn’t news. Trading for boozer would be news.

If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.

by Chi 'Till I Die on Jul 14, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he is plenty friendly

look at his responses to Rose Colored Goggles and normvanbeer below.

If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.

by Chi 'Till I Die on Jul 14, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I found some good news for you, yfBB.

At first, I tried to find something uplifting in basketball terms. After that failed, I scoured the news for a pick-me-up in terms of the Bulls’ finances. 0 for 2. So I decided to look for something that had was not business- or basketball-related, anything that involves the Bulls and GOOD news. This is the best I could do.

I tried.

by T-Boogie on Jul 14, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

There are plenty of NBA players who wouldn't like playing with Rose:

Marbury. Actually, that’s the only one I can think of.

by arjoseph on Jul 14, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think any good PG with an ego would dislike Derrick Rose

Lucky for us Hinrich was broken down by the Bulls gulag and has been a model teammate.

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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought

Gordon’s ego broke hinrich.

don't let the bed bugs bite

by Rex Grossman on Jul 14, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, Hinrich is a saint.

St. Kurt would never be angry at the Flower Child.

"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer

by Granny Waiters on Jul 14, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

they asked if he wanted to be a bull, and he said "i would be very happy "
he coulda just said something like yea i would love to be a bull or whatever team that wants me blah blah someshit

"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"

by Faizamaze on Jul 14, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's lived in Utah the last few years

So yeah, I bet he would love to be traded somewhere where the bars don’t close at 7 PM.

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by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha, sarcasm!

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Jul 14, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or he could say

THat one of those good players is Aaron Gray, and that he’s hoping to see Malik Allen in team Red again in Chicago as well..

THE BULLS ARE GOING TO WIN IN 2010....maybe by stating this the positive vibes can make it happen.

by majoyenrac on Jul 14, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

My takeaways from that interview:

He said the Jazz told him he would be traded and that his agent is working with the Jazz on getting a deal done. So he’ll have a little input into he might end up. So if he wants to come to the Bulls, he can help make that happen. Obviously, he can’t make the Bulls get involved, but it at least sounds like the Jazz have talked to the Bulls. Whether or not that happened before Sam Smith’s “THEY NEVER TALKED!!!” column doesn’t really matter.

He also said he’d be willing to sign an extension. Again, doesn’t mean he will, but he’s at least saying the right things for now. And that might be some leverage he can use to get to a team he’d like to play for. He also said a lot of nice things about Rose and playing with him.

by Moses Taylor on Jul 14, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If there's anything we know about Carlos Boozer...

isn’t it that what he says doesn’t mean shit? Ask Cleveland…

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 14, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Boozer will take a lower offer after he gets out of his contract so he can play with Derrick Rose!

He totally will!
Let’s get that deja vu cooking.

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-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!

by Prevenge on Jul 14, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Jazz told him he'd be traded,

it’s actually in our interest to wait them out and let the price fall.

by arjoseph on Jul 14, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or wait them out

and watch some other team snab him for garbage because the garpaxdorf or whomever it is that runs the bulls these days wouldn’t give up “Kurt” because they fear a lack of depth after not inking ben gordon for the past two or three years.

by Sambossanova on Jul 14, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does this really matter?

Chris Bosh, barring a complete collapse, will not be traded this year. Steve Kerr at this time says he wants to extend Amar’e, so it depends on how the Suns’ season progresses if Kerr is going to put him back on the block.

I can’t realistically think of anyone else with a semi-large contract that could be moved at the deadline (Boozer, Al Jefferson?…..)

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

do you think

Boozer could be used as trade bait for Bosh?

"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"

by Faizamaze on Jul 14, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it

Why would Toronto do that? They would only trade Bosh because they don’t think he’s coming back next year, and Boozer has a history of doing that exact thing to teams. I think Boozer is the last replacement they want unless he agrees to sign an extension with them (assuming Bosh already told them to f*ck off).

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 14, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Toronto is doing their utmost to keep Bosh,

and that, if they can finish in the top 5 in the East or advance past the first round of the playoffs, he might stay. They certainly won’t trade him now; if they are free-falling as the trade deadline approaches, though, they might look to trade him so as to get something in return for his inevitable departure. A good PF would have to be included, or a young one with potential.

I’m interested to see if the Jazz match Portland’s offer for Millsap, though. Pritchard forced Utah to think fast, since I believe Boozer has to be paid soon (within a week or two, I think) if they don’t move him. an’t find the link to that rumor, though.

by T-Boogie on Jul 14, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou Ridner would make a great backcourt mate for Kurt Heinrick

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Ronald Reagan

by snley on Jul 14, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA!

I don’t know why that cracked me up, but it did.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 14, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dorf would

trade Rose for bats that the white sox could use.

don't let the bed bugs bite

by Rex Grossman on Jul 14, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hinrich just became our only perimeter threat...

Glad we didn’t draft a shooting guard…

by oakdale on Jul 14, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Salmons is okay too

and we do have Pargo who hopefully won’t play big minutes.

But you’re right that we’re kind of weak from outside. Rose better be working on his outside shooting and defense all summer, because we’ve put a lot of pressure on him to carry this team.

by runningman on Jul 14, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pargo CAN be a perimeter threat,

but, more often than not, he chucks up bricks and posts a sub 40% from the field. Reminds me of my fellow SLU alum that shall remain nameless.

by T-Boogie on Jul 14, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what does tim thomas' buyout have to do with the bulls perimeter threat?

do you really want him jacking up those ridiculous threes?

it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 14, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fact

that tim thomas sucks and would be about the last guy you’d want around setting an example for rookie james johnson isn’t the point. the point is they’re mad as hell and they’re not gonna take it anymore!

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Jul 14, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha!

nice catch.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And of course...

You kow the whole story, right?
Did NO give Pargo a deadline to either accept or reject?
Makes a world of difference!

It’s all about keeping your word (integrity) and being forthright with people, which dare I say it on this board, is a good characteristic.

But hey, let’s bash Sam anyways. It’s what we do here…

by StephenAA on Jul 14, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam has given us more than a decade of ammo, so yeah it's fun to insult him

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 14, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"It’s all about keeping your word (integrity) and being forthright with people"

I agree. Fuck Reinsdorf.

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

even if Reinsdorf was the 'word is bond' one of the two

so what? StephenAA may feel like that’s ‘what it’s all about’, but it’s really about winning fucking games.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What StephenAA is saying

is that it’s like when your dad said “If you listen I will buy you a toy” and he always did, right?

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NBA cares, yfBB. So does Reinsdorf.

Unfortunately, though, Reinsdorf doesn’t care about the Bulls.

by T-Boogie on Jul 14, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Sam isn't upset!

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

HAH!

you sir, get a rec. I think what StephenAA is saying is that we should take Sam’s word as if it came from the burning bush.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 14, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Sam burns some bush to write some of his crap.

In all seriousness, Sam writes some interesting reads. They entertain, if nothing else. That being said, his double standards and questionable logic should always be noted with a degree of caution.

by T-Boogie on Jul 14, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam might want to go back to work as a political press secretary

despite the fact that he already is one for the Bulls.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Jul 14, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

didn’t sam also say something to the effect of “Pargo overplayed his hand” with the Hornets in a blog/column a few weeks ago? now he was “taken advantage of”?

by M 80 on Jul 14, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do vaguely remember reading that...

I’m not sure I have the patience to go looking for it; however, I do think you’re right.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 14, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The situations weren't the same at all.

It’s not like the Hornets’ offer had an expiration date (like the Bulls’ offer). They gave Pargo the impression that it going to be on the table indefinitely and then said “psyche!” Gordon had full knowledge that the offer was coming off the table. Now, you can still say that the Bulls were dumb for not putting it back on the table, but it’s not even remotely the same thing.

by arjoseph on Jul 14, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really know what the "impression" they gave was?

I’d say, Yeah, don’t read anything into it that’s not there. Any offer is out there until it’s not. I doubt they said, “This is out there indefinitely, Mr. Pargo.”

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jul 14, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

so how did they screw him then? he knew it could be pulled at anytime. why be upset when it is?

If “indefinitely” means “it can be pulled at anytime”, why do they have to say “psyche” to pull it? Just say, “We’re taking it now, just like we said we would.”

I thought you were using “indefinitely” in the common way: as in, “out there until pargo takes or rejects it.”

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jul 14, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad we're taking to

passing off opinion as pure fact. How do you know what impression they gave?

Pargo asked for more money than the team offered, and when they were able to get Posey they no longer needed Pargo.

by KmartLUC on Jul 14, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls offer had an expiration date?

Source?

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by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don't remember their offer having an expiration date

until they had pulled it off the table. Pretty convenient.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 14, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, if ahead of time = when he decided to accept it

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because I wish to insult you personally
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by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

They also said

to us that they wanted BG and would try to make things work out. They’ve been saying that from day one so when BG tried to sign the contract (the one they were in love with all summer) you think they would be happy to get it done and let him sign.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jul 14, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

Here’s a link, although I’m surprised you asked for it — isn’t it common knowledge that the Bulls gave Gordon an advance “take-it-or-leave-it” deadline, that Gordon didn’t accept the offer by that deadline, that the offer was therefore taken off the table, that Gordon then asked for the offer to be put back on the table, but that the Bulls ultimately refused? If you’re quibbling about “take-it-or-leave-it deadline” and “expiration date,” that’s pretty petty — it’s semantics.

by arjoseph on Jul 14, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah yes, the old "talk around the NBA"

This is straight from Jerry’s mouth:

“He was prepared to sign last year at the end, but after he turned down our offer, we thought about it and thought about it and decided it was in our best interest just to go one year with Ben,” Reinsdorf said. “We informed him of that, at which time his agent came back and said, ’We’ll take your prior offer.’ We said it was too late. It’s off the table.”

Nothing about any deadlines there.

Why resort to name calling?
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because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this part...
we thought about it and thought about it

Jerrryyy…come onnn.

by SoulEater7 on Jul 14, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Jerry's probably still thinking about whether he should resign Ben

He’s been a bit preoccupied lately trying to buy a hockey team. Somebody really should tell him that Ben already signed with another team.

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It also doesn't contradict it, either.

In fact, it’s wholly consistent with the early deadline. Ben did indeed want to sign “at the end . . . after he turned down [the Bulls’] offer.” Why did Ben’s agent call it a “prior” offer if it was still alive?

by arjoseph on Jul 14, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would they pull the fucking offer in the first place?

Why resort to name calling?
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because I wish to insult you personally
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by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said initially,

“you can still say that the Bulls were dumb for not putting it back on the table.” I’m still incredibly ambivalent about it, personally. But that wasn’t the issue; the issue was that people were saying Sam was being hypocritical by treating Ben’s situation one way and Pargo’s situation another. I merely point out the obvious: that it’s not the same situation at all.

by arjoseph on Jul 14, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, its obviously not the same situation at all

What the Bulls did is much worse, since they pissed off a much better player.

Why resort to name calling?
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because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Dorf didnt want to pay

a max contract for jordan for gods sake he had to think about it (http://www.newsweek.com/id/108041). He was cheap with the championship bulls! why wouldnt he be a colossal dick w anyone after, lets forget the ben gordon thing already.

don't let the bed bugs bite

by Rex Grossman on Jul 14, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ohh Man

What a fantastic find (although you screwed up the link the ) at the end isn’t supposed to be there.

Seriously, this is a GREAT find. It is absolutely uncanny to read and amazing that after all MJ did JR was still a fucking cheap ass.

If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.

by Chi 'Till I Die on Jul 14, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and since you want to play wordsmith,

He would have called it a “prior offer” if he had made a counteroffer that the Bulls rejected (which I’m sure he did). If Jerry had put a deadline on it, wouldn’t he have directly said so in that interview? Especially since he already publicly dished out every detail of the negotations in that interview?

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
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by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't have it both ways.

The little snippet of JR-speak you linked to says nothing about a counteroffer in the same way it says nothing about a deadline. You can’t say one surely existed and the other didn’t based on the same lack of evidence in that article. Also, that was hardly “every detail of the negotiations” — negotiations lasted all summer.

by arjoseph on Jul 14, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, so then what is your evidence that there ever was a deadline?

Try to find something a little better than “talk around the NBA.”

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DAAAAMMMMNNN!

OH NO HE DIDN’T!!

"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta

by The Red Menace on Jul 14, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are yall still talking about BG....really?

thought this was post was about tim thomas. any guess how long this will go on?

it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 14, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't go there girlfriend!

"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta

by The Red Menace on Jul 14, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why are you talking about BG anyway?

What are your feelings about TiT? Please, say something on topic once while you are here. The only thing you ever comment about is people commenting about BG or people complaining about something during this wonderful off season.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jul 14, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

?

I would rather have Hunter the player/coach and slow-as-a-glacier Gray than Tim Thomas any day. Is there any quality analysis out there regarding how this actually impacts potential trades in the future. Don’t yall think that if ANYBODY wanted Tim Thomas he would’ve been traded a while ago. Who would really want that bum.

do you really want him jacking up those ridiculous threes?

it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 14, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my bad

it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 16, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls would rather save a couple million

than potentially use an expiring contract in a deal to improve the team. This is ridiculous. We’ve been told all year that these expiring contracts were “assets.” Well they are pretty useless unless you use them to help improve the team. The Bulls are a joke. Why would you buy out a player who has the potential to go to a good team and help them? Why not use him as trade bait? Why am I fan of this team again?

by Basketball Smurf on Jul 14, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Not bad, I was more reminded of the JR Smith deal

which had to be done ASAP to get Adrian Griffin under contract :)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But his veteran leadership

Lead to Noah getting that 2nd day suspension…..and the team upheaval.

He also cost us a few games that helped us land Derrick Rose perhaps by not using his veteran leadership the best way he could have…

THE BULLS ARE GOING TO WIN IN 2010....maybe by stating this the positive vibes can make it happen.

by majoyenrac on Jul 14, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn straight.

“Veteran leadership” = mythical, wonderful way to justify wasting money.

Side note: can the Cubs use the excuse “We needed lots of veteran leadership” to justify pissing away their money to the point of considering filing for bankruptcy?

by T-Boogie on Jul 14, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs aren't filing bankruptcy; Tribune is.

There’s a difference.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jul 14, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not keeping JR Smith was a mistake!

If your coach can’t control the locker room and forces you to get rid of players he can’t coach – for peanuts – then get a new coach. Oh wait, they did, VDN. JR Smith could’ve been BG insurance what, two years, before the Salmons deal. Thuggery aside, don’t JR Smith and BG have pretty similar games ON the court?

it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 14, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Ben Gordon is better. Consistent scorer, better shooting percentages, and was actually a starter.

If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.

by Chi 'Till I Die on Jul 14, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BG PER 17.02 JR Smith 16.84

I know BG played more minutes than JR Smith, and I know PER isn’t the only thing that matters. I just think letting such a talented player (14th best PER for SG last season) for peanuts cuz the coach is scared to coach him is lame.

it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 14, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and don't forget

the ultimate unused expiring contract, PJ Brown.

Someone needs to clue Paxson in that expiring contracts doesn’t mean you let them expire….

by RichKarp on Jul 14, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey dude

they kept PJ around because they knew he would score 22 points in the first half of a playoff game and jog down the court (in slow motion), iconically pumping his fist.

And sell about 50 more PJ Brown jerseys before he became a free agent. All about the PJ Benjamins baby.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 14, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who wants

tim thomas! everyone was talking about Raef LaFrentz expiring and how he was a hot commodity and nothing happened, I like how the bulls dumped him instead of taking away minutes from our rooks and tyrus.

don't let the bed bugs bite

by Rex Grossman on Jul 14, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This IS Vinny we are talking about.

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

one of my concerns for the current roster is VDN will try to play everyone. that means force feeding minutes to JJ and Taj at the expense of Tyrus and Noah.

by Basketball Smurf on Jul 14, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

VDN doesn't need another reason

to erroneously bench tyrus via tim thomas

don't let the bed bugs bite

by Rex Grossman on Jul 15, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

think how Gooden was used.

Portland screwed up by not using Raef.

by Basketball Smurf on Jul 14, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question with trade exceptions

Do the Bulls get a trade exception by buying out Tim Thomas?

Right now the Bulls have these trade exceptions
1.9 from Noce
1.9 from Thabo
575K from Hughes
Total = 4.375

Can Trade exceptions by added together with a 1 for 1 player trade?

How did the Hornets use the trade exception to use land Peja? I believe Indy helped them out.

Dont the Bulls have any other friends that could help them trade Tyrus for Boozer?

by Jesse07 on Jul 14, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no they get nothing but the savings of the buyout amount

the rest sits on the Bulls cap space to rot.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If JR wanted too...

Could the same thing be done with Jerome James? Cap savings then trade Ty for Booz?

by Jesse07 on Jul 14, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

same thing?

they likely only saved a million or two in this buyout. They’d have to save ~$6m to take on Boozer for Tyrus (plus they’d have to include someone else to ensure the Jazz were taking in within 75% of Boozer’s salary) and stay under the tax.

I guess to make it simpler: the Bulls did this for no reason but to save some cash and fit in useless scrub signings under the luxury tax.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for clearing that up.

Sorry misread your reply. Wasn’t there the Allan Houston rule that allowed a 1 time buyout the didn’t count against the cap?

by Jesse07 on Jul 14, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe it was actually part of the newest CBA

but it was a one-time thing.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah,

there was a very short window to apply for the luxury tax exclusion.

by kingj41 on Jul 14, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could the Bulls use a Non-simultaneous trade?

To Trade Boozer for Tyrus Thomas. Trades (They are given 1 year to complete the trade)

by Jesse07 on Jul 14, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Non-simultaneous trades are

only capable of being performed when a trade exception is in use. The Bulls have no such exception to execute that type of trade for Boozer.

by kingj41 on Jul 14, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The FAQ is very detailed

you’re reading just enough to ask a dumb question…
My bad. There are no dumb questions. (Unless you know this guy…)

by kingj41 on Jul 14, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

You got me on the reading just enough, but figured a lot more people here know the CBA better than me . Back to the drawing board…

Oh and J – “Sidewalk” your next.

by Jesse07 on Jul 14, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd think they'd try to write in a similar provision

to the new CBA. I don’t see a reason why the owners and players wouldn’t agree to that. Players still get paid. Owner doesn’t have to pay the tax on his salary…
Makes sense. Plus, if BRI drops a whole lot more, more teams are staring tax bills in the face, as opposed to a large share on the receiving end of tax payouts…

by kingj41 on Jul 14, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back when we re-acquired Tim Thomas

Someone posted on the old usenet group that “If you liked releasing Tim Thomas the first time…You’ll love it the second time!” Took a while, but he was right in the end.

by ImLittleJon on Jul 14, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Still think its Karma

from Tim Thomas excepting less to go back to the Bucks as a backup in the big freeagent of 98

by Jesse07 on Jul 14, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Classic rec'd

THE BULLS ARE GOING TO WIN IN 2010....maybe by stating this the positive vibes can make it happen.

by majoyenrac on Jul 14, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Will that be before or after “Standing Tall Night” when the Pistons come to town?

by Sports2 on Jul 14, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

wouldnt it be

contract off the table night?

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Jul 14, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes!

and free burgers for everyone

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jul 14, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will Jerome James be the next guy to be bought out?

Assuming the Bulls don’t get an injury exception for him. After all, he’s even more useless than Tim Thomas. His expiring contract would be useful in trades, but obviously the Bulls don’t plan on making any trades in the next year.

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by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No point in him taking a buyout

Because no one will sign him or play him (if he is still in fact alive).

Tim Thomas can take the buyout cash and then try to sign another deal somewhere.

by nateroth on Jul 14, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I admit, I was kind of hoping to see him appear in at least one game as a Bull

Not because I think he can help the team or anything. I’m just curious to see if he can play one five-minute stint without passing out.

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by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so either

because I guess if they buy him out, that’d affect the insurance payments everyone receives from his injury

by Sports2 on Jul 14, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whats an All Star pint guard?
Though the Bulls lost Gordon, they are quietly looking good in the 2010 sweepstakes. Cavs GM Danny Ferry supposedly has been saying to watch for the Bulls because of their ability to sign a max free agent and have veterans in place, as well as a potential All Star pint guard whom players will want to play with.

by SoulEater7 on Jul 14, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Duhon is.

He can really down those pints of liquor.

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by Big D on Jul 14, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

STOP BITCHING everyone

In the article we find hope that we will be contenders this year:

Perhaps the most subtle find was in the words of one staffer who said in Johnson the team probably has its first true inbounds passer since Toni Kukoc, a tall player who with a feel for the pass. Johnson seemed to most enjoy being a playmaker in the team scrimmages, and as we saw in the recent playoffs, having someone who can see over the defender and make an inbounds pass is a lost art. At 6-8, Johnson could be a nice find in that area.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Every great team is built around

an inbounds passer. Johnson is like Pippen 2.0

by runningman on Jul 14, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now I know who my number one pick will be in my fantasy league

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that too...

who was the inbound passer last season?

by SoulEater7 on Jul 14, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miller, Hunter

I think it would change depending on the situation.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't Thabo have that turnover

in the Miami game? That ended in the Marion dunk?

by JockstrapNoah on Jul 14, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, I'm pretty sure it was Thabo

don’t we all remember the infamous Miami game when Thabo was inbounding with Derrick on the bench? I HATE VINNY.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 14, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's called a process

Guys’ll have mistakes, but overall we like what we’re doing….

Or something to that effect.

THE BULLS ARE GOING TO WIN IN 2010....maybe by stating this the positive vibes can make it happen.

by majoyenrac on Jul 14, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow.

That was quintessential Vinny.

by T-Boogie on Jul 14, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was circumstantial

Noah did it. Rose did it. Kurt did it.

I’m pumped when folks on the staff are highlighting the in bounds pass as a point of emphasis in the off season. Super!

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Jul 14, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The answer to my prayers.

Now there’s no need to worry about being “up one, with the ball, and less than 24 sec. on the clock.” LOL, Matt!

by hlac on Jul 14, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Gibson might get some minutes next year after this decision

Not the best of moves, because maybe we could get something in return, but who cares about TiT… besides Vinny?

by bull83 on Jul 14, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone

gonna watch the bulls vs GS summer league game

rose isnt playing right?
how come eric gordon played?

"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"

by Faizamaze on Jul 14, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

7 CST

I just scheduled an open thread for those who’ll be watching. I won’t.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll do the same.

Right now, i’m watching Beyonce’s music videos with the sound turned off.

"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta

by The Red Menace on Jul 14, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too much info!jk

I’m going out for sushi with my GF, is there a live stream or do you have to pay for it. NBATV maybe?

by SoulEater7 on Jul 14, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like sushi!

Can i come with you guys? Wait……lemme wash my hands……..

"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta

by The Red Menace on Jul 14, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think we will find a stream

ADTHE has one scheduled. I think I’m going to try to watch the game, since I don’t watch NCAA games and I want to see what we have in JJ and Taj

by bull83 on Jul 14, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not on tv right? Just NBA TV?

I’m not paying to watch a Roberson/Henderson backcourt, though there’s a slight coaching upgrade with Ociepka at the helm. Why isn’t Vinny coaching btw? If he wants to get better, shouldn’t he be spending as much time as possible on the sidelines? He must be too busy drawing up super-awesome plays…christ I hate this team.

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jul 14, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vinnys' doin fine....

He’s downing shots at the BADA BING with Tony Soprano!

"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta

by The Red Menace on Jul 14, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could see Vinny

as one of those “I don’t drink beer, it fills me up too much” types of jackasses.

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jul 14, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I a video of Vinny on Comcast page

and he was explaining JJ something. I’m not quite sure what, since he’s coaching ability are… not a big thing

by bull83 on Jul 14, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is how it's done:
• Sasha Pavlovic isn’t in the Suns’ future plans any more than Ben Wallace was, but Phoenix can keep Pavlovic on the roster for 52 days of the 2009-10 season before the cost involved exceeds the $1.5 million required to buy out his contract immediately, as just seen with Big Ben. So the Suns will hang on to Pavlovic for now, treating his $5 million contract (with the $1.5 million buyout) as a nice trade chip into December.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=Chatter-090714

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Jul 14, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Hey! The Bulls are makin moves....

Herky jerky moves with arms waving to and fro……but moves nonetheless!

"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta

by The Red Menace on Jul 14, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

They’re “doing some changes,” as a brilliant man once said.

by T-Boogie on Jul 14, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Retire

He has back problems. Like, really bad back problems.

Vinny Del Negro Offensive Gameplan, Part 1
-When there's less than 30 seconds left in the game, that's me with my hands cupped around my mouth yelling.
"BEN! SHOOT! SHOOOOTTTT!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?!?"
-This segues nicely into my Timeout Management classes - order now!

by Prevenge on Jul 14, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm about as excited for this upcoming season

as I am for X Games 15…

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jul 14, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy SHIT!!! I thought it was just ME!!

I am so GEEKED UP for X Games!! I can’t wait! I…….oh…you were being sarcastic.

"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta

by The Red Menace on Jul 14, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

what does requested waivers mean?

it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs

by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 14, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

after a player is let got there is a time period that a player must go through before he becomes unrestricted.

If another team grabs him during that time he is that teams property. But I think they must pay his salary or something.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jul 14, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, they have to pay the salary

so only teams that far under the cap apply. I guess just OKC.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 14, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i miss

nocioni

"Game 7 of the 2011 Finals.. 10 seconds left in the game, the score is tied up 92-92.. Kobe with the ball he drives in.. IS BLOCKED by bosh, Rose picks it up Runs it down Throws up a pass to Wade.. WADE SCORES! GAME OVER ! BULLS WIN BULLS WIN!"

by Faizamaze on Jul 14, 2009 6:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Noc played hard but just never learned how to score off the dribble or not foul at the worst fucking time

And that 3 was always inconsistent..But i still like him..but hes no ginobilli

Tyrus Thomas is really Stromile Swift with a retarded mask on..Think about it Same height, same school, same athletic ability, same sucky ass work ethic, same no real position having retarded statement making fucker. News flash retard. Sloan doesnt like lazy ass jump shooters who have 1 for 17 games. Fuck u stromile.

by drakedog on Jul 14, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could have saved some breath

by just saying he never learned. Period. The man played the same out of control brand of ball day in and day out, making the same stupid rookie mistakes over and over again. Honestly, to me, the things he does well don’t counterbalance the retarded, selfish, chicken-with-his-head-cut-off BS Noc brought to the court, and his talent has been wasted on his complete inability (or willingness, more likely) to learn.

And those parting shots he took at Chicago saying he didn’t get the ball enough were pure crap. Can’t find the link, but a rec to anyone willing to do the grunt work for me.

by T-Boogie on Jul 14, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ask...

and you shall receive:

"Last year in Chicago was spent pretty badly. It was a very individualistic or team game was crazy. On those teams I do not look good, I need something more organized … Manu (Ginobili) [ed. infinitely better than Noch], Luis (Scola) [ed. alot better than Noch], and Fabri (Oberto) [ed. also better than Noch] have been lucky. I do not, unfortunately."

"There are many people [that are] young and too much individualism. If Chicago was a band, Sacramento are the two bands.

That may not be the exact quote you were looking for, but it’s close enough, and all that is needed, to rekindle genuine dislike for Noc!

by NormVanBeer on Jul 14, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Come on people this is a good thing

This means the Bulls may actually have a plan this summer.

Homecoming

by illwill on Jul 14, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Better to cut Thomas if he would have been a malcontent and locker room cancer over lack of playing time.

Obviously, there is more than just declining physical skills for the Bulls to not want TiT around.

"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer

by Granny Waiters on Jul 15, 2009 2:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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