You do make a good case about PG’s. I still think the Bulls could get to a title with Rose, though. There are many ways to skin a cat. Just look at the wildly varying makeup of title teams, from star-studded like the 80s Lakers & Celtics, to no star, like the recent Detroit teams. There is no one single route.

Plus there is never a guarantee on how a great college player will transition to the NBA. Woods are full of “can’t miss” college stars who washed out. Rose is already proven, so why trade him for someone who is not?

….each of those PG’s had an absolute STUD on the team with them. A real life, true to form, established SUPERSTAR and in some cases two of them. Blake Griffin may turn out to be the goods. In fact, i think he will. But I think Rose will turn out to be the goods as well.

You don’t even entertain the possibility of trading Rose at this point in his career. And what character issues are you talking about? You and everybody else that’s dogging this kid needs to get off that high horse immediately. He’s a good kid. May have done something bad but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s a good kid. Plus it’s irrelevant in all honestly. This kid was going to be a pro and some SAT score or a Dinstead of a C wasn’t going to change that. The fact that it’s an issue at all is a sham.

Lastly, how would you like to be defined based on the worst thing you did when you were a teenager? I don’t think anyone wants to be pigeonholed based on that.

understand.

sure. But he’s not.

in his prime led Philly to an East title… and I think Rose will be better than Iverson because he is not going to look to be the main scoring threat…. Billups is a stud, and under rated… What about the Stockton teams back in the day? Without Jordan the Jazz would have won….

No Offense… but i don’t think you’ve thought this through enough. We have a top 5 point guard on our roster. (potentially the best in the league!) You don’t just give that up!

Hmm. I would.

Griffin is meh. If he came out last year, he’s at best the #3 pick, and it doesn’t make sense to trade down when Rose had such a good year.

The “teams cant win with a great point guard” argument is odd. Tony Parker is a future hall of famer, and Billups and Rondo are still in the discussion. The fact is, you need multiple great players to win a title. Does Jordan win titles without Pippen? Does Shaq without Kobe and Wade? Does Duncan without Ginobili and Parker?

Rose is on the fast track to being one of those great players. Maybe he’s not a Jordan/Shaq/Duncan, but he can be Tony Parker, maybe slightly better. Surround him with a couple studs (Joakim’s on track to be one) and a deep rotation, and we can compete like the 2004 Pistons or the 2009 Magic.

Well, I’m guessing 99% of NBA executives wouldn"t trade Lebron 4 Rose either. I don’t think most would trade Rookie of Year Rose 4 unproven Blake Griffin either. Unless of course the Bulls had a young top ten PG to take his spot. Bulls are rebuilding. Hinrick will be 29 soon. He needs to win now. He probably has 1 or 2 good years left.

Trade Derrick for Wade…..and a sign and trade of BG and our 2 first round picks this year….I mean for the Heat it’s better than Losing Wade for nothing….and well is a good trade in terms of talent/upside to boot.

Rose will be a better player than Griffin, I can feel it. Rose might be as good as Wade, but with Kirk in tow, we can manage. Let BG walk, and use the expiring Miller-James-Thomas next year or at the deadline to make a Bosh or Stat trade….

Bulls next year
Kirk
Wade
Deng
Thomas
Noah

with Miller, Salmons, Tim Thomas and a MLE signing…. we would be set and have room to get another big FA in the followign year…..

When has a Power Foward been the focal point of a Championship team? Barkley, Malone, Kemp even. None of these guys won anything. Tim Dunan and Garnett are the only two and you can make a strong argument about Duncan being more of a center and Garnett having two other stars like Pierce and Allen.

Ok so you trade Rose and now you have a guy in Hinrich that really is a combo guard, a 30 yr old starting 2 guard who’s only had one good year in the league, and a over paid injury prone small foward? Congrats, you just made Joakim Noah the most reliable player on next years team.

You want to trade DRose for an unproven player? This is the farthest thing from a legitamate trade idea I have ever seen! You have a potential franchise player who played a fantastic rookie season at 20, for a guy that may never average double digit points in his career? I like Griffin a ton, but he is not worth Rose until he has done something in the NBA.

Joe Smith averaged 20 and 10 for 2 seasons at Maryland. Would you trade DRose for a Joe Smith? I hope not.

everyone is making it out to be. Its a nice fantasy thought, but Rose is a proven commodity. Rose is playing in his hometown, a lot of marketing surrounds Rose, and to do this deal the pressure on Griffin coming in as also the #1 would be just plain ludicrous. Overall not a bad thought, but not realistic- nor does is have a snowball’s chance in hell of happening.

THE POTENTIAL SUPERSTAR WE’VE BEEN WAITIN FOR SINCE U KNOW WHO RETIRED….AND U WANNA TRADE HIM AWAY….DUMBASS

Bulls Keep Rose this year and beyond. Worst Case scenario in the 4th qtr a real NBA coach would play Kirk @ pg(it just saves energy for your star(rose) he also is great @ defending point guards or in general in games, Rose play @ sg and not in a ray allen way but a in a wade like way, Deng plays @ sf yea we still have him(that’s assuming tyrus never learns how to dribble in the NBA, as a sf his athleticism, in combination playing level headed(which comes from experience and coaching only), would make a true star and if tt(TT is Tim Thomas) continues to show tenacity and understanding of the NBA game, (Big if) If we sign Bosh/Amare/Odom/ or Tyrus develops @ pf, we would only need continued development from Noah @ c.

We could also;
sign or sign and trade bg.
sign or sign and trade Odom.
sign or sign and trade Kaman.
sign some more back up big men to provide Noah with relief few years(Big men need it).
trade picks to move up for Jordan Hill(maybe Thabeet if he slips) Hill fits our O & D.
darft the best perimeter defender possible with 26 or 25(whatever pick it is), after drafting the most valuable post player with the 16.

There’s now way we sign Artest. OK seriously though bull fans If we sign star in 2010 wouldn’t you love Rose, Bosh, Artest, Noah, and whomever in the EAST! and say we keep tyrus off the bench we would easily have a top five defense really the best depending on the other role players and the coach.

Deron at this point is slightly better than Paul for the following reasons:better defender and better shooter.

Paul is faster and a slightly better passer. Deron has much better size.

Deron’s size, D and ability to shoot will allow him to play more effectively for longer…once Paul gets older and loses some speed, his game will suffer quite a bit.

Look at how Billups is over 30 yet still very effective. Jitterbug PGs tend to lose a lot once they age.

trade him for Scola, he is better than Griffin