VDN sounds like a STD but sadly as much as he messed up you still can’t hate the guy a rookie coach with a mediocre team shure we have the future in rose but are team can’t play defense at all krik is the only defensive guy on are team.So until we get bosh amare or someone learns how to play D then dont blame him

It’s sad that we had to see the Nash-Dantoni Suns blown up while this Detroit team has clung on for years. It’s their players, but since you can’t fire all of them, the coach gets the hook. Larry Brown got them a championship before bolting (probably just Larry’s typical wanderlust, but you wonder if he predicted he couldn’t get those players to win it again). Then came Flip, and though they were a consistently solid team for several straight seasons (how many articles did we read every year about the Pistons being “the class of the East”?), there always seemed an arrogance, and overconfidence that probably made them tough to coach. They thought they had a switch that they could turn on when they wanted, and even though that switch never went higher than “Conference Finals” they acted like they were the defending champs EVERY year. Boston’s been like that lately, whining about every call that goes against them, but with the Pistons it was every year (and the level of “the refs are against us” paranoia in their fans is astounding—way more than other teams’ fans).

Didn’t C-Webb hint that the players barely listened to the coach and they didn’t think they needed to? Was Curry really going to change that just because he’s a “player’s coach”? It’s the players, stupid. Remember that year LeBron eliminated them (Sheed loses it, the Pistons refuse to double-team, LeBron hosts a dunkathon in that last quarter)? Dumars was furious, telling everyone around the league he’d hold the team accountable by, gasp, listening to offers for his best players!! This dramatic warning was treated as a big deal in the media: Oh my! None of the starters on the Pistons were untouchable!" Of course a funny thing happened that summer and following fall: no one cared all that much. Instead of a stampede by the league to nab one of the Pistons’ starters, Dumars blamed the lack of a roster shake-up on, “ridiculous low-ball offers.” Ha, I loved that. Joe, it’s because few other teams valued your players as much as your city does. It’s not the refs, it’s not David Stern or the ratings-focused networks, and it’s not the coach (entirely). Your players were just never as great as they thought they were. Damn good at times, yes, But that championship was ages ago, and the last remnants of that group are either declining physically, or have checked out mentally.

Pent-up emotion for that rant was mostly acquired years ago—doesn’t seem as much fun to spew it out now.

then what happens with Hamilton?