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BaB 2009 NBA Draft open thread #6

Last one, until the recap post.

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I'm tired of hearing

“we have another trade to announce” not involving the Bulls

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

For those curious

Here’s the Spurs blog. Just do a search for Blair

by Jamaicanpi on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I got to say,

I’m hurting right now. I feel worse now than I did after we lost game 7. There DeJuan was, at 26, and we pick Taj Gibson. And somehow you knew these guys were going to screw it up.

ow, ow ow.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jun 25, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

It should have been an easy pick

Gibson wasn’t even faster than Blair at the camp. They were about the same speed. It was a really stupid pick.

by Jamaicanpi on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

this is giving me a frakking migraine. What an organization. Glad they kept their “promise” though, if that’s what this is.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never been this pissed with the organization.

I was pissed when they took Johnson, because I don’t think we need another tweener and I think Blair is going to be a beast on the boards. But when they took Taj, I was in disbelief. I mean, they should have taken all of 10 seconds to make that pick. Gar should have been in the back jumping up and down waiting on the Thunder to pass Blair so that he could run up to Mr. Stern and say “we’ll take DeJuan, we’ll take DeJuan!” I’m really sick right now. I guarantee we will be talking about how we let Blair go TWICE when he is playing meaningful minutes in at least the western conference finals with the Spurs. Just slide Duncan to the middle. Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, Blair, Duncan. I’m pissed!

by Unrealcity on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed completely

I feel like when Blair averages a double-double next year every Bulls fan should be allowed to stand in a line and take turns kicking Gar in the nuts.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

herd in on espn radio and almost got in shock

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonight just feels disappointing

I know (obviously) it’s more important how things work out during the season, but it would have been nice to feel just a little more excited. Maybe this means free agency will be good?

Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!

by wjb1492 on Jun 25, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Buddinger goes to Detroit

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jun 25, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Calathes to Minny

this is what the 4th pg?

"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so."

by Teri on Jun 25, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, what the hell?

I guess they think they suck at evaluating talent and so they are going to pick FOUR point guards and hope one of them is really good.

by Unrealcity on Jun 25, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota picks another pg, this time to stash

Hopefully Calethes represents his school in Minnesota better than Brewer did.

by jpx7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey I'm a Florida emigrant and UF fan

But Brewer was a huge reach at #7 overall, whose stock was premised mostly on team success and some amazing three-point shooting in the 2007 Tournament.

He certainly hasn’t represented at Udonis Haslem, David Lee, Al Horford, or Joakim Noah levels — and he was a higher draft-pick than all but Horford.

by jpx7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hollinger upgraded his analysis of Taj Gibson, moving him to #40 on his draft rater.

saying in April that If he could get a serious look in the SECOND ROUND, look for him to stay in the draft. His last update said his age works against him right now. He’s having a good season at USC, but not good enough to get him into the first round.

Does this mean Hollinger doesn’t have the insight of Gar Paxdorf or is Gar going to have to share the dunce cap with Vinny and company for making and/or being bad choices? (ie VDN) The Bulls draft picks bring about as much excitement as watching the bottom feeders of the WNBA battle it out under the rim in a meaningless game.
 

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Jun 25, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

This is why D.R.A.F.T. on ESPN.com rated the Bulls as 23 out of 30 for our picks since 1989 when they went to a two round format. We suck! Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler. Marcus Fizer. Dickey Simpkins. Taj Gibson over DeJuan Freaking Blair! I’m so pissed and I’m getting more pissed because I know that down the line, I’m going to be even more pissed when he is kicking butt and Taj is sitting on his butt!

by Unrealcity on Jun 25, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't understand the anger at the #26 pick

Taj Gibson is going to step right in and be able to help our post guys right away. If Tyrus ever feels like he needs a big brother, a shoulder to cry on, there is Taj Gibson. Noah need someone to help him load the bong, there is Taj Gibson. Derrick Rose need help passing a driving test, there is Taj Gibson. The beauty of Taj Gibson is that he can do it all. Pick up your dry cleaning, do your taxes, mow your lawn, drive you home when you get drunk – he really has all the tools.

Taj Gibson is like Bobby Hill. Taj GIbson is the stick. Nothing is a bigger motivator than embarrassment. “You lost minutes to Taj GIbson! hahaha” Finally, something to motivate Tyrus and Noah.

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great King of the Hill reference

I’ve been watching a lot of that show lately. But seriously, is someone playing a prank on us? Is Gar Forman dating Jerry Krause and carrying out his vengeance on the Bulls? I just can’t understand why they would do this to their fans. Are they really so out of touch that they think people will get behind this strategy? Is there a strategy?

I’ve never been so mad at one of my teams before.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the pick is all the more maddening when you consider the Bulls traded Sefolosha for Gibson

I mean, wouldn’t you rather have Sefo with there being a chance Gordon leaves via free agency??? Wouldn’t he have been a better use of resources?

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uh,

yea.

"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!

by marionette on Jun 25, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GIBSON IS CHEAPER

again that’s what it’s all about, racking the money yo

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think we know

"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!

by marionette on Jun 25, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls fucking lost it tonight.

About the worst possible outcome. And for those that are thinking, “Here comes a trade!” Remember, they haven’t announced a trade yet, so one hasn’t been done; it takes two to make a deal. It’s no forgone conclusion they’ll make a trade.

The Bulls could have had an entire frontcourt of players 25 and younger in two years, and really odd, the guy that won’t be is the last one drafted. How’s this lineup for 2010-2011 as a fall-back plan if they can’t make a trade or get a free agent?

Rose(22)/Hinrich(30)
Gordon(27)/Hinrich(30)
Deng(26)/Johnson(24)
Thomas(24)/Blair(22)
Noah(25)/Asik(24)

If that’s your “worst-case scenario” in two years??? Fuck me.

But no, fuck this team. Fuck ’em good.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:33 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

He's someone that "needs to add weight" for one.

Why hasn’t he done that in the past ten years?

It matters because it means he has less growth in him. Just because a guy is going to be a role player doesn’t mean I don’t want him to be good.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm more frustrated in the fact that Johnson is so similar to Gibson

and we had a chance to get ellington or a solid guard for our rotation once salmons leaves or hinrich gets traded.

I agree with your point on Gibson’s weight, but if he didn’t gain the weight a few years ago than he won’t in the future.

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually the other way around

I’m more frustrated that Gibson is so similar to Johnson

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's my point. He's too skinny to play in the NBA.

You could draft a skinny guy if you think he can put on weight. You shouldn’t think a 24 year old is going to put on too much weight before he reaches his peak.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not?

He’s a young genetic freak, as are all the players being drafted. He could put on 20-30lbs by next season EASY, especially if he hasn’t been a big weight-room guy up until now.

by dakoose on Jun 25, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, what?

Not all genetic freaks are made the same.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 26, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HGH

"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer

by Granny Waiters on Jun 26, 2009 4:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please don't say that.

Steroid and Growth Hormone accusations are way to common these days.

by dakoose on Jun 26, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not a genetic freak though

When I think of genetic freak, I think of “great athlete”, not just “tall”.

He’s like a mini-me version of Manute Bol.

Long, skinny, and compared to successful NBA players, not a great jumper, not very speedy, and not all that agile.
At least, that’s how he measured out. And he didn’t look exceptionally athletic at USC.

Maybe he showed something amazing to the Bulls… but I ain’t holding my breath.

by Sports2 on Jun 26, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been around a few gyms and know a guy that is very knowledgable about weight lifting and training,

and in my first year training with him I put on 20-30 pounds of muscle, and I’m not as genetically gifted as these guys. They have the best nutritionists and trainers at their disposal. Putting on weight, as long as amply motivated, should not be a problem for any world-class athlete. Obviously, everyone is created differently, but these guys are in as good of a situation to improve physically as anyone on the face of this earth.

by dakoose on Jun 26, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has Minnesota traded Ty Lawson for Ruuuuuuudy yet?

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ty lawson was sent to denver

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Jun 25, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for what?

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

next year's first, i think

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

weak fucking sauce.

This is a bad draft. Okay. I get it. Do ALL of the teams that aren’t the good teams have to make it harder by completely fucking it up?

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spurs will take McClinton and Heytvelt.

Guaranteeeeeed.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hah! got one right!

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is easier to predict logical choices.

The Bulls are a bit more dodgy.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm so pissed right now

I think I’m going to finish the rest of the vodka in my freezer and just sit around and hate GarPaxDorf for a while.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take your time. There will be years of hate to fill.

Let some fester for a while and then whip it out when they least expect it. Find a Clippers fan and learn how it is done right.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 25, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good call.

We can just read Bill Simmons for what it is like to pay money to watch a team that basically gives the finger to it’s fans.

by Unrealcity on Jun 25, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose you're right.

But that’s exactly how I feel. Like my team just gave me the middle finger. Only they put it somewhere very unpleasant…

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Gar even realize we had a pick at 26?

Or did he figure that out around the time OKC was picking at 25….

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So the Bulls won't talk to anyone and hate leaks, except to Draft Express???
10:08 Some people give you bad information year after year…some people don’t. It’s nice to add a couple more correct picks to the tally here at the end of the first round.

10:02 Nope, Chicago goes with Taj Gibson, which is what we predicted on our mock draft. Good advance scouting by DraftExpress I guess.

What the fuck?!?!

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Again, when Dejuan Blair becomes a beast

every Bulls fan should have one free kick at Gar’s nutsack.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like how he tried to play it off on the radio: We were surprised he was there!

Bull-fucking-shit. You wanted him all along.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

that pissed me off almost as much as picking him in the first place

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls have this strange need to give promises to marginal players.

And once a promise is made, there’s nothing more important than loyalty.

by Scotter on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What do you think of this?

I’m just…. bewildered. The only way it would have been worse for me was BJ Mullens at 16. This is the 2nd-worst possible scenario I could have envisioned for the Bulls.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what makes it doubly-bad.

I don’t see how they don’t take a SG, either. Especially since everyone is saying Gar indicated Gordon is going to be gone.

Hinrich and fucking Salmons. They were lying about wanting to trade Hinrich all along.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they could've come away

with lawson and blair, for chissakes!

"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!

by marionette on Jun 25, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not so high on lawson

he’s really only a pg and that means he would be playing only 10 min a night.

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

better than what we got!

"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!

by marionette on Jun 25, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol!

just saw above/below….

"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!

by marionette on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how many minutes will johnson be playing?

"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!

by marionette on Jun 25, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A decent amount

if they trade Thomas, which I think they will. Or if they let Gordon walk.

But Rose is our only star player, so pg is the least of my worries

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why they tried so hard to resign BG

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pendergraph is gonna be nice on Portland

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jun 25, 2009 10:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought he would have been nice

in a Bulls uniform. Well, better than Taj Gibson at least.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

it’s not a Bulls trade.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My question is

are we looking at the worst draft of the Paxson era?

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NOT ONE FUCKIN RUMOR

i mean i wanted a trade, ive waited for this day .. Angelo did his thing this offseason and i hoped the bulls would do something, but no they have to continue to disappoint…
its upto ROSE fuck man no gordon no amare noone just ROSE NOAH and scrubs…

by Faizamaze on Jun 25, 2009 10:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

honestly, i can't be mad about the blair thing

he was passed over 36 times.

that said. wtf to the rest of it. and to the twolves especially.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Jun 25, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Everyone else is doing it, why not us

-I was wrong about Pau Gasol. I have been shamed. :(

by Prevenge on Jun 25, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, I really don't think we could have picked a worse guy at 26.

Blair, Green, Ellington, Young all available. And we pick TAJ GIBSON? WHAT?!?! This is depressing.

"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush

by Illini15 on Jun 25, 2009 10:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not as pissed about not getting Blair

anymore, now that the entire league passed on him, but WE JUST DRAFTED TAJ GIBSON IN THE FIRST ROUND! HE’S 24!!!

"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush

by Illini15 on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know teams like to give each other misinformation

they like to hype up players they don’t want and play all kinds of mind games. But apparently the Bulls fall for all of them. How many NBA GMs are snickering right now that the Bulls actually believed them when they said Taj Gibson was the next Danny Manning?

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have to get younger at some point

so you might as well pick a guy that is older than Tyrus Thomas to make you feel like you still went younger with Tyrus Thomas

by airnjp on Jun 25, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone in the league passed on Ginobili too and guess who got the All-Star?

The Spurs! And that’s why they are the best drafting team over the last 20 years and we were 23 of 30. Damn it!

by Unrealcity on Jun 26, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So what is going to happen when Hansbrough gets both of his fish eyes knocked out

Is he really strong enough to throw elbows back at men in the NBA?

by airnjp on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I need Matt's recap

so I can feel even worse about this fuckin team

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Tonight really was quite depressing

"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush

by Illini15 on Jun 25, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Matt drinks at all, he's definitely trashed by now.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which, I'm going to drink that vodka I was talking about

I will see all of you in the morning. I’ll be just as depressed, only I’ll be at work with a hangover.

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

After this Matt will need a wellness check.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roster moves?

If the Bulls resign BG they will have

Rose/Hinrich
BG/Salmons
Deng/Salmons/Johnson
Tyrus/Johnson/#26
Noah/Miller

Johnson sees himself as more of a 3 than a 4, and I agree. I think he is in the big SF mold of guys like Carmelo and Artest. He is big enough to post 3s and and skilled enough to play on the perimeter.

I want to resign BG. Perhaps this opens the door for the Bulls to trade Deng/Kirk and keep BG and Tyrus. Wishful thinking maybe, but I think that with what we have, if we resign BG we can afford to send away a couple of perimeter guys.

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 11:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how do you figure?

The Bulls are still trying to win (or at least pretend like it). They aren’t going to play two rookies at PF. And it takes two to make a trade. It’s just as easy to have agreed to trade already. The Bulls can’t count on another accepting a trade a week from now. That’s stupid. But I guess I wouldn’t put anything past them now.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They can start Noah and Miller together (Damn it)

They didn’t even play Tyrus during the playoffs, so they clearly feel that they can’t win with him

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't think Taj Gibson or James Johnson are competition for Tyrus

He is still by far more promising and simply flat out better than both guys. Plus I think JJ is a 3 while Thomas only wants to be a 3, which he pines for every summer. Plus Gibson has almost no upside compared to Tyrus. Tyrus is better than Gibson now and will be better than Gibson in 3, 5 and 10 years.

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if Gordon starts at SG

I just don’t see James Johnson play if we don’t get rid of Thomas. He would get playing time if we let Ben Gordon walk

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Salmons is only around for one more year.

Johnson is a rookie. Derrick Rose will be 21.

They should not be making decisions based on playing time competition for a guy who will be around for one more year with a rookie when the franchise player is 21.

Gibson and Johnson can get 500 minutes for all I care.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but JJ sees himself as a 3

I don’t think you take a guy if you don’t see eye to eye with the guy on how he is going to play. Personally I think his skills are more suited to the 3 than to the 4.

From Chicago Tribune:

“I’m really excited,” Johnson said from Wyoming, where he watched the draft with his family, former teachers and coaches. “They’re a great team. I’m going to come in and work. I think I can help them out.”

Johnson said his background playing in the tough ACC will help him, and he answered questions about being considered a player between positions.

“The ACC has great talent,” Johnson said. "You’ve seen the guys who went earlier in the first round. It prepares you for fast-paced games.

“In my mind, I’m a small forward, but you can use me at the power forward. I can defend multiple players. I’m just happy the Bulls took me.”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-26-bulls-draft-chicago-jun26,0,829211.story

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They took Thomas and he said he wanted to be a SF.

Seriously, he said that. And they took him to be a PF. They did it once, they could do it again. You’d like to think they’d learn.

Joseph Treutlein Do you think you’re better suited to play small forward or power forward in the NBA?

Tyrus Thomas Small forward.

Joseph Treutlein What do you think you need to work on to play small forward at the NBA level?

Tyrus Thomas Like I said, you have to keep working on every part of your game. A lot of people don’t know, I never played in the post until I got to LSU. It’s like riding a bicycle, once you learn, you can’t really forget how. I think I’d be better on the perimeter, but if I had to play the post, that’s what I’d do.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls are fucking dumb.

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by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have no clue whether he will be a better small or power forward

I have to actually watch him in an NBA uniform before making that decision. But the Bulls are usually unprepared for these type of things, especially with Vinny at the helm

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe though that the organization should be deciding what position

a player should play, not the player. Look at Monta Ellis, who is clearly a better shooting guard, but is begging for g-state to play him at the point, even though he can’t shoot

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shooting guards need to be able to shoot too.

-I was wrong about Pau Gasol. I have been shamed. :(

by Prevenge on Jun 25, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read one of Vinny's quotes about Johnson tonight

And then got really depressed, as I was reminded that Vinny is still the coach of this team. What a fucking joke.

"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush

by Illini15 on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still have hope that once his contract expires

he’s gone. So that’s something positive about tonight :)

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but tyrus thomas is pretty dumb too. Tyrus doesn’t have any sf skills, not like Johnson. I think Johnson is a pretty solid pick, so I’m probably higher on him than most. But watch these highlights of Johnson on Doug Thonus’ blog. Johnson is far more skilled as a dribbler and shooter than Tyrus was coming out of college and more skilled than Tyrus is today. Tyrus is a primarily defensive player trying to be an offensive player. JJ is an offensive player with the skills to actually play the 3.

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2009/05/james-johnson—-draft-capsule.html

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not vastly more skilled than Thomas.

Thomas can dribble and shoot. And they’re the same age. And Thomas is far quicker and faster and can jump higher. And they’re the same age. You underestimate Thomas’s dribbling and shooting because you’ve only seen him do it in an NBA uniform. When you see Johnson try to do it, you’ll see he’s not that great.

Highlights suck.

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by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes he is vastly more skilled than Thomas

thomas can dribble and shoot, but not well. Did you see the moves Johnson was making – Tyrus cannot handle the ball that well.

Yes, Tyrus is a better athlete. I didn’t claim differently.

“You underestimate Thomas’s dribbling and shooting because you’ve only seen him do it in an NBA uniform. When you see Johnson try to do it, you’ll see he’s not that great.”

- I don’t know how to respond to that. I think you are absolutely wrong. Johnson has skills of a legitimate 3. Tyrus Thomas doesn’t have those same skills. You obviously didn’t watch the highlight reel, so why bother responding.

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 26, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I cut together a highlight tape

of Thomas making moves in the NBA, it would look just as good as Johnson’s highlight video. If Johnson can play the 3, which I hope he can, it will be because he can post and muscle smaller players, not because he’s a far more skilled ball handler than Tyrus because he’s not..

by Scotter on Jun 26, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whatever

I don’t think you guys have seen Johnson play. will see what he does during the year

From Draftexpress -

“Offensively, Johnson has shown flashes of a complete repertoire this season. His ball-handling skills look much improved, as you regularly see him grabbing rebounds and taking the ball smoothly coast to coast, and he’s become quite a lethal threat creating his own shot in the half-court as well. Johnson has very unique timing on his drives as discussed in the past (see prior reports), and he’s just as effective creating and finishing with his left hand as he is with his natural right—something that is pretty rare at the collegiate level at his size. "

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 26, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one's saying he isn't more skilled than Tyrus,

but the difference isn’t as great as you’re making it out to be.

by Scotter on Jun 26, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sorry I used the word vast

that is actually something Tyger said first, and I picked up on. But I put Tyrus Thomas sf skills at a 2 and Johnson sf skills at a 6 or 7. I know you are higher on Tyrus than I am, but I don’t see a guy who is comfortable making moves on the perimeter. I see Tyrus as a guy who can dribble drive only on power forwards because he just doesn’t have the handle of Johnson. Even when he does so, he isn’t relying on any change of pace or advanced dribble moves, he is relying exclusively on quickness. To claim coming out of college that Johnson and Thomas had the same level of perimeter skills is to ignore the facts. Johnson handles the ball very well for his size; he handles the ball better than most 3’s and a few 2s.

We will see what he does during the season…

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 26, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from chicagonow maybe via Draftexpress...

“Johnson plays PF for Wake Forest, but he has a SF skills. His body type lends itself more towards the SF position in the NBA with the ability to play PF in a small, up-tempo lineup. While his athleticism will not stand out in the NBA, it won’t hold him back either. Whether he spends his time at SF or PF will determine how quick he’ll feel in the NBA as he’ll outquick most PFs and probably be mediocre in speed vs SFs.

Johnson’s sick ball handling sets him apart from his peers especially given that he’s more adept with both hands than the majority of guards reviewed.

He loves to push the ball and can play the ball handler or finisher role on the fast break which is a rare trait for a big man, and his handle allows him to aggressively attack the basket taking opponents off the dribble with ease. "

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2009/05/james-johnson—-draft-capsule.html

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 26, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't watch that, but I've watched plenty of others.

He’s not that quick and he’s not that explosive. He can spin and dribble and all of that against 19 and 20 year old inferior athletes. When he does it against 25-30 year-old grown men that are much better athletes than he is, then I’ll be impressed.

He’s got more skills that Thomas. That’s true. But you’re overestimating his skills and underestimating Thomas’s He shot frickin’ 30% from three for his career and 69% at the FT line. You really want to claim he’s a better shooter just because his team lets him jack shots up?

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by tyger1147 on Jun 26, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're right

thomas shot 100% from 3pt range his last year in college. Of course he only had 1 3pt attempt. They are pretty much equal shooters.

From Draft Express -

“There are a few bright spots though, the most notable of which is Wake Forest’s James Johnson, who shot 48% on his 2.1 pull-up jumpers per game. Though he hit only 39% of his overall jump-shots, Johnson’s ability to hit jumpers off the dribble bodes well for his face up game moving forward. He also ranks quite well in his ability to operate out of isolation situations, and gets out in transition at a prolific rate”

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Situational-Statistics-This-Years-Power-Forward-Crop-3190/

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 26, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Johnson can be a three, and get annoyed with anyone who thinks

Tyrus should play SF, but there isn’t some huge gap in their offensive ability at this point. Tyrus is a whole 6 months older than James Johnson. They both played guard in HS, both handle it better than you’re average PF. Both make bad decisions frequently, you just haven’t watched Johnson’s shot selection and turnovers for three years.

If draftexpress is suddenly the grand authority on players go back and read the stuff on Tyrus and see how much you agree on. Johnson went 16th in a weak draft for a reason. He’s got a chance to be a starter, but he’s a long ways from being an efficient NBA offensive player no matter how many quotes you pull from draftexpress.

by Scotter on Jun 26, 2009 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The draft express synopsis of johnson

simply matches what I see. Since Draft Express has more time to scout these players than me, and I assume you, I put more stock in their general observations than yours.

Everything I’ve seen or read about Johnson suggests that he has superior ball handling skills. The fact that he such a good pull up jumper shooter just furthers my belief – he has superior balance and control with the ball in his hands. If you don’t want to believe that, than that is fine, but you haven’t proven your point at all.

For whats its worth, I think they are pretty spot on of their analysis on Thomas coming out of college as well.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tyrus-Thomas-511/

From draft net about Johnson -

“Proved that he is very comfortable handling the ball in all situations, including in transition while going full speed and still keeping his head up, looking to make plays … Has shown that he excels in a point forward role, where he can use his playmaking ability to create for teammates and himself … He has advanced moves off the dribble; hesitation, crossover, spins, in& outs as well as nice ability to make a second counter move …He is very comfortable going to and finishing with both hands … Using his size and length while attacking, he is able to protect the ball and finish with extreme efficiency … He’s good at keeping his balance while attacking contact, which gives him a good chance to convert in traffic and against help defense …”

http://draftday.nbadraft.net/players/james-johnson

Doug Thonus had similar things to say about Johnson’s ball handling and ability to be a point forward in his podcast. I don’t think Tyrus can do the things people describe Johnson as doing. The only person who seem to believe that Johnson’s perimeter skills are on par with Tyrus’ are you and Tyger.

My original statement was that James Johnson has legitimate small forward skills because of ability to handle and play on the perimeter. I think his skills on the perimeter surpass Tyrus Thomas, making his quest to be a 3 far more tolerable than Tyrus’. I don’t know why this is so controversial, Tyrus Thomas has very little perimeter skills.

I’m not arguing Johnson is the next great Bulls player. He probably won’t be more than a 10-15 minute player next year. Still, he is a guy with good skills, and yes, his skills on the perimeter are far better than Tyrus’. They may have both played guard in high school, but only one of those guys had the ability to play on the perimeter in college. Johnson will need to improve his jump shot to be a starter on the next level and his game overall needs to be more refined. But he has far more tools to play on the perimeter than Tyrus. Tyrus perimeter skills consist of an inconsistent jump shot and an ability to beat 4’s off the dribble with a quick first step. He sometimes spins wildly, but other than that, really has no advanced dribbling moves. I think Johnson is a better perimeter player and I (and probably the Bulls staff) and am far more comfortable with him on the perimeter. Again, I don’t get the controversy.

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 26, 2009 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, this here is very, very depressing.

"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush

by Illini15 on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls director of college scouting said they projected him as a 3,

Which is the only way I can sort of like the Johnson pick considering who was already off the board. You have to hope that he can be a poor man’s Carmelo Anthony and take SFs down into the post. I hate guys like this playing the 4.

by Scotter on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or maybe he can play like Rashard Lewis

and stand at the perimeter and hit threes while power forwards are guarding him. He will be able to out quick the pf’s and maybe drive to the rim

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I called him a poor man's Carmelo Anthony first!

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by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No I didn't. Don't be a liar.

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by tyger1147 on Jun 26, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If JJ "can defend multiple players"...

Then Rose can just stay at the offensive end. :-)

by ImLittleJon on Jun 25, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are we even sure Matt is alive after us picking Gibson...

I mean Matt was expecting us to trade for Amare tonight and if we didn’t he would be mad..Imagine if he found out we drafted Gibson and passed on Blair with the 26th pick

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Meticulous preparation:

For Salmons playing the 2 full-time after they allow Gordon to walk!

Consequently: they figure they’ll need someone else to back-up the SF position; and, since it’s Deng, they reason that it would be prescient to go ahead and draft a back-up for their new back-up.

by jpx7 on Jun 25, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This was my exact thought.

There’s no way they’re re-signing BG. They’re totally thinking:

Rose/Hinrich
Salmons/Hinrich
Deng/Johnson
Tyrus/Gibson
Noah/Miller

…f*ck.

"Vinny continues to act like a crazed arsonist pouring gasoline on our season while running around carrying a torch yelling 'I’m in charge. Don’t any of you foolish knaves try to second guess me. I know gasoline is a liquid but I’m pretty sure it isn’t flammable and the odor gives me a natural high.'" - Tyrusmancrush

by Illini15 on Jun 25, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

guard rotation

is only good for a year. salmons slides to the 3 if/when you’re behind in the fourth and need threes (the accursed 3-guard again). you always need threes, really, so deng better start it up (i think he can, but what does he think?) or johnson better start doing a veteran tim thomas impersonation right quick.

i don’t see where either of these picks get minutes. rose/kirk/salmons/deng/noah/tyrus/miller and then such a drop off, it’ll be just like the playoffs again: best 7 but minus bg.

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by marionette on Jun 25, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

these picks are not just about this year

but the year after. Salmons, Miller, and I believe Thomas will be gone.

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'll be best 4!

That’ll be pretty awesome.

-I was wrong about Pau Gasol. I have been shamed. :(

by Prevenge on Jun 25, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

with a Luol Deng jersey on and just tighty whities.

no pants, half way to the toilet passed out and his mom shaking him to tell his the Spurs drafted Blair. lol just kidding Matt. His dart board is of VDN and above his bed is a picture of BG in the bath tub.

by SoulEater7 on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're close.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 25, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey hey!

how was your nap?

by SoulEater7 on Jun 25, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel bad for Matt he was pumped!

He was in such a great mood. I think we might see a return to mid season Matt. A league source has told me.

by SoulEater7 on Jun 25, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not upset about Blair

Nearly every team in the league passed on him, some multiple times. I can only imagine that his knees are even worse than what was previously reported. I’m not a big fan of the Gibson pick, I would have preferred someone like Calethes who could be stashed overseas for a year or two. Johnson was kind of a blah pick, but this was kind of a blah draft anyways. Who the hell knows with any of these guys after the top 5?

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by Big D on Jun 25, 2009 11:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's kind of how I feel

everybody passed on Blair, so there must’ve been a big problem. But then the Spurs picked Blair and there smart, so I don’t know.

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they really liked him, they would have traded up to get him in the first round

Who the hell anticipated that he’d still be available at 37? It’s worth a flier in the second round, since you don’t have to give him a multi-year guaranteed contract. And even in the second round, several teams passed on him, which shocked me.

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by Big D on Jun 25, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, that extra guaranteed year is just KILLER!!!!

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by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it doesn't help when you have a guy who's been fat his entire career

He didn’t bother losing the weight until right before the draft, when he had money riding on it. Maybe teams didn’t feel comfortable giving him guaranteed money. How do you have known he wouldn’t have turned around and gain the weight back once he signs his first contract? And considering his knee problems, that would be a big problem.

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by Big D on Jun 25, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except he never missed a practice or game in two years at that high weight.

So he puts on weight right after he signs the contract. You still play him because he’ll still be damned productive, and tell him if he doesn’t lose the weight back at least partially, you won’t pick up his next two years. At the very least, you get two years from a fatty-fat-fatty that will be better than any two years Gibson ever has, and at only a few hundred thousand more than a second-round pick anyway.

And maybe he keeps the weight off and his knees don’t fuck up (like Hines Wards) and you get the biggest theft of the draft.

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by tyger1147 on Jun 26, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously nearly every team in the league disagrees with you on that

Teams make mistakes, of course, but considering they have information we don’t (his medical records) I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. I agree that the Bulls are idiots, but I just don’t think passing on Blair is a reason why.

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by Big D on Jun 26, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not arguing about that.

I’m arguing that the “guaranteed contract” excuse is just super stupid. If you think he’s going to get fat or blow out his knees, that extra year is meaningless.

So, they may have their reasons, and I’ll allow them that. He might not be a long-term solution, etc. But you saying that they don’t want to invest a single extra guaranteed year is just dumb. Teams aren’t worried about the first two years of his career. They’re worried about further down the line, the years that aren’t guaranteed yet.

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by tyger1147 on Jun 26, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They don't even have to offer him one guaranteed year now

So it’s really a difference of two years. They can offer him a one or two year deal for nonguaranteed money, and if he plays well, great. If he comes into camp out of shape or tears his knee, they can just cut him and not lose a dime.

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by Big D on Jun 26, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the worst part of it for me.

As much as I felt Blair was a no-brainer, if you really, really didn’t like him, there were far, far better options than Taj Gibson.

Green, Ellington, Calathes, Douglas, Budinger. Sam Young if they hadn’t drafted a better tweener than him already.

They needed to fill back-up PG / SG / SF / PF. They only did two. And one of them is a complete bust before he ever sets foot on the court.

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by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh, Danny Green was taken w/ the 16th pick of Cleveland.

That was the Bulls they gave up in the Wallace, Larry Hughes, etc. craptical. Odd coincidence seeing as he would have looked great for the Bulls a year from now.

(I think that’s how they got it.)

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by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My goodness.

Maybe I should volunteer my services to the Bulls for a price far less than that of Gar Paxdorf’s.
These picks are abysmal and most likely won’t work out to anything. Great drafting, Chicago.
I don’t believe Denver got Lawson. And the Spurs got Blair. God.
THERE IS A REASON THESE TEAMS WIN MORE OFTEN.

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by Prevenge on Jun 25, 2009 11:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Recommended for green highlighting.

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by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

new thread is up

go to hell, Bulls!

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we chip in and get Matt a martial arts kicking/punching bag

with a custom Gar PaxDorf montage on it?

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by Granny Waiters on Jun 26, 2009 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Bulls insider may have uncovered the reasoning behind their picks today.

It seems that Gar was a secret fan and admiring soulmate of former pop star and current wife of Heismann trophy winner, Eddie George, Tamara whose nickname is “Taj” and was known as “Taj Johnson” while a member of the group known as SWV (Sisters With Voices) back in the 90’s. She now goes under the name of Taj Johnson-George.

Seeing her appear as a contestant in the Survivor series this year must have rekindled some memories in our current GM, who from that point on, couldn’t seem to get the name Taj Johnson out of his head having triggered formerly cannibis induced fantasies from his days as a male groupie when he used to follow SWV from city to city in between scouting assignments.

After reviewing hundreds of potential draftees and getting more confused with each workout, by the time it was the Bulls turn on the clock, the only name he could come up with was…..Taj Johnson…….Taj Johnson………..Taj Johnson. Scouring the scouting lists in the war room, his assistants assumed he was telling them to draft the dude named Johnson and although they couldn’t figure out who Taj was, someone noticed way down the list was Taj Gibson whom the Bulls originally had listed as their 117th pick, but apparently they figured the brain trust saw something in him no one else had so he jumped up to number 26, while the rest of the GM’s guffawed having decided this guy maxed out 2 years ago with a low threshold and had nowhere to go potential wise but sideways or straight down.

Well, at least if the draft picks don’t pan out, Gar should be able to pick up some old SWV albums for practically nothing on Ebay.

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Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Jun 26, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

oh god

here’s an interesting tidbit from yahoo’s draft analysis of James Johnson

Here’s what to like about Johnson. He’s a big athlete from Cheyenne, Wyoming, of all places. He says if the NBA doesn’t work out, he’ll give give mixed martial arts a try (he was a junior champion back home). And he supposedly talked so much trash to Chris Paul during summer pickup games at Wake Forest, that CP3 didn’t want New Orleans to draft him. At least he’s interesting

That’s actually a little concerning that he is already thinking of stuff to do if the draft doesn’t work out

by LoveForTheGame on Jun 26, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing we're in the East, and only have to play against CP3 twice a year

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