BaB 2009 NBA Draft open thread #1

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 25, 2009 5:00 PM CDT Comment 96 comments

New one every hour! Judging by today it looks quite necessary.

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start this off right

RIP Michael

by JSlakov on Jun 25, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

is he for sure dead?

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Jun 25, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thats

what I’m hearing and my friend who works for the Times Picayune said she saw it over the wire

by JSlakov on Jun 25, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, fuck.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Jun 25, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I heard he asked to be rushed to the nearest children's hospital...

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jun 25, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs

Too soon?

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jun 25, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

all jokes aside

not a fan but…sure is sad.

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jun 25, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

smh

that was funny tho…seriously, at one time, I did all his dance moves

:::sings billie jean:::

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bogus man

he was still a human being

by Faizamaze on Jun 25, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

a human being who may have been attracted to little boys

i’m not happy he’s dead, but we shouldn’t treat him like a saint either

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well still dunno if he did or not I really didn't follow

I don’t think its treating him like a saint to not disrespect him.

by Camry on Jun 25, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But I admit laughing at that one

by Camry on Jun 25, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but i think its funny that people are so against saying negatives things about people when they are dead, but are willing to make their lives a living hell when they were alive. I mean, no one had any problems calling MJ a child molestor when he was alive. Somehow, I think those characterizations hurt more when he was breathing.

I’ll always be thankful for Billie Jean, Thriller and early 80’s michael

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dont forget

he’s made a song with the real MJ too!

JAM!!!!!!

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I was actually just messaging someone about that

I heard so many M jackson jokes in high school it wasn’t even funny; literally the jokes weren’t funny. (people love him more outside of the US I think got a statue and everything)
I won’t be surprised to see a lot of people paying him a lot more respect now.

I dunno its crazy most probably are like that because of their religion. Sometimes morality but it doesn’t take much I think to be remorseful for someone who died. So it gives me the impression that some do it because thats just the way it goes.

by Camry on Jun 25, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know...

what the purpose of condemning someone for an attraction to kids, particularly if it has largely been supported that he never acted upon it. This all seems more oa media invention, converting his eccentricity and preference for the company of children as an adult into some type of fetish, when it was simply a man stuck in adolescence.

He was a great performer who was created by the most grotesque aspects of our entertainment industrial complex and then crucified by the same people who used him sell enormous amounts of products. There is nothing more simple-minded than arguing from the flaccid immaterial position of moralist without purpose or substantiation.

by McCabe on Jun 25, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am pretty sure he went through puberty.

No matter how much fun kids can seem to you, as an adult you shouldn’t be cuddling with them in bed and having sleepovers. If that is what you are attracted to and how you get off perhaps just plan on never getting off again and just avoid kids. Kids shouldn’t be used like that no matter what your personal “needs” are.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 25, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There was no use by anyone.

You have an underdeveloped understanding of human psychology; if someone never develops past a particular point in adolescence, they ARE NOT AN ADULT. Do not conflate a legal conception of adulthood and a socio-psychological conception.

by McCabe on Jun 25, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Um, the guy was sexually abused

Whatever judgments you have of him should probably be left private.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So as long as people are making off jokes it is ok

but any serious talk is going to far. Ok. Whatever.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 25, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sheeeesh Cant we have a moment

to think about the dude’s career. I grew up on this guy.

by Dils on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

eeeewwwwwwwwwwwww

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do I have to explain that one?

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Jun 25, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha awesome.

by Evil Pax on Jun 25, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

RIP

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, Michael on BAB is Mr. Jordan...

you almost gave me a heart attack.

What do I need to show fire for? I'm not a dragon. - Lou Pinella

by smash! on Jun 25, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Word.

If I hadn’t seen the story about Jackson before coming over here, I would have freaked too.

by arjoseph on Jun 25, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

I almost wanted to post a fanshot called “MJ dead”

but i had a feeling the HNIC would ban me

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess Michael's been too far out of the spotlight for me.

I was more bothered when Heath Ledger and Bernie Mac died.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

those were really tragic deaths

michael has been so freaky for so long its hard to know what to think

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meh. The children stuff is weird, but it's more about the lack of "art" I'll be getting.

MJ stopped awhile ago. Ledger was coming along as one of the best young actors to follow the likes of Brad PItt or Johnny Depp and Bernie was hilarious and had also hit the screen as a legitimate actor.

Seriously, I might be twisted, but enough people die every day that their deaths, in and of themselves, aren’t any more tragic than kids in Africa who starve to death. I’m just upset that my life might contain a little less joy in it from their deaths.

(yep, I said all that.)

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not a national tragedy, we're not the crazy people who cried when he sang

It just sucks that Michael Jackson is dead, his body of work is better than anyone over the past 20 years. I mean, come on. Usher? Justin Timberlake? These guys are hacks compared to Jackson in terms of the actual quality of music.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not to mention

clearly heavily influenced

by JSlakov on Jun 25, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah even the guys who aren't as big as them

Or even artists who don’t imitate him as bad. Maybe some guys did that tribute album to him for pub but I think its like the Michael Jordan effect too.
Its hard to even explain really.

by Camry on Jun 25, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Totally, but I'm just saying he hasn't done much in the past 10 (15?) years.

I already have multiple albums of his (and no how to get others if I need to). Ledger and Mac would have continued to put out good work. I’m not so sure about Jackson. If he was still making quality music, I’d be bothered more.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*know how - d'oh!

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm with you

really, it seems like he’s been dead since the early 90s.

by M 80 on Jun 25, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually

mike had a couple good tracks out in the last year or two…most were underground leaks though…and that butterfly track still bangs hard. pause.

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I understand what you are saying...

but we shouldn’t let someone’s non-presence change their signification. I would say if anything, the void left in his absence is representative of his massive influence.

I do understand what you are saying about Ledger, but there was a zero percent chance of him ever equaling Michael Jackson’s influence. There are few products that have equaled Jackson’s; Jordan and the Beatles only come to mind as being on the same strata.

by McCabe on Jun 25, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's just brutal honesty. if most people thought about it, that's really the only reason we all

care so much when celebrity’s pass.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Jun 25, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Michael Jackson...

is so much more culturally significant than any of those celebrities you have mentioned.

The ability to recognize someone for their almost incomparable contributions and also recognizing general global inequity are not mutually exclusive things.

by McCabe on Jun 25, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, Jackson already made his mark, and he wasn't making any more marks.

Jackson dying does not diminish or change or alter the contributions he already made or the contributions we think he might have made in the future. I think Ledger was about to bust out as a great actor of his (my) generation. Now, we’ll never know. I’m just not a sentimental person to get all distraught over what someone dying when they’ve already done something and weren’t really going to do anything more. I leave that to the historians.

I’m sorry I can’t explain myself better so you understand what I mean.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't get very sentimental about it because he was just so damn strange

Someone remarked above he was a human being, but he seemed to live in such a bizarre reality it’s hard to have any sort of understanding of him as a regular human being. Hence, I look at his death the way I’d think of the death of… I dunno… an alien or something. It’s sad, it’s just… hard to relate to.

BullsTwo

by Sports2 on Jun 25, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meh, don't all artists have their flaws?

And that’s what makes them so intriguing?

Though, I guess it’s a little easier on the mind to think of Elvis because you could just block out the phase where he was a drug addict fatso. I wasn’t even born the last time Jacko resembled a human.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

RIP Bernie

Soul Men was a good last dance tho

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Michael Jackson and Farrah on the same day

You know you’re getting old when people who were cool in your childhood start dying.

Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!

by wjb1492 on Jun 25, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

reminds me of

this guy, the real deal.

"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!

by marionette on Jun 25, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fuck Terrance Williams

Here’s hoping you do something to make the Bulls not pick you in the next 2 hours…

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jun 25, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

if wearing a Barbie backpack and comparing himself to LeBron doesn't stop them, nothing will.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Jun 25, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

It wouldn’t be as funny if it wasn’t true…

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he realkly wore a barbu backpack?

gotta pic?

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BULLS BABY BULLS!

Damn the fact that im back in the motherland with zero access to TV today

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What a great day.

SO many excited emotions running through me..

Lets get Bosh, Amare, and trade up for Blake Griffin. KK !!!!!!

http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!

by Rudey on Jun 25, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

lol

wtf haha

by Faizamaze on Jun 25, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN

its draft Day!!!!!

http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!

by Rudey on Jun 25, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Three PFs?

Wouldn’t that just make us the Clippers? Or like a frontcourt version of the 2005 Knicks? Seriously, that Knicks team had Marbury, Steve Francis, Penny Hardaway, Jalen(e) Rose, Nate Robinson, Jamal Crawford AND Quentin Richardson… WTF?!

by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, Minny selected back to back point guards!

"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer

by Granny Waiters on Jun 25, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

happy ass

by Faizamaze on Jun 25, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's amazing how exectations have gone from

Hansbrough would be okay at 16 to anything except a trade for Amare would be a disappointment.

by Scotter on Jun 25, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i think all the player movement has people hopes up

plus everyone has been expecting the Bulls to make a big move for 2 years now and still nothing

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 25, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

at least we have cutler

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Jun 25, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOOF!

at least we have cutler

"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer

by Granny Waiters on Jun 25, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Big moves = Big Ben

:::awaits to hear upcoming trade of TT, Kirk for Big Ben in PHX:::

:::preps shots of patrons::::

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The player movement like Smurf said...

…and trading up to draft Terrence Fucking Williams.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dodged that bullet!

"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer

by Granny Waiters on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reality of how far away we are is setting in.

BullsTwo

by Sports2 on Jun 25, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

draft start yet?

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bring me a good player Gar!

by bull83 on Jun 25, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Holy shit the one night I need the tv and my roomates are watching dvds of The Wire

looks like I’ll be virtua-drafting. AND we’re all out of beer except PBR. Talk about bad omens…

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jun 25, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

streaming video?

anyone know of streaming video not on Justin TV? stupid country restrictions…

by JSlakov on Jun 25, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

does this work for you?

http://atdhe.net/tv/watch_espn.html

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 25, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

working for now

thanks!

by JSlakov on Jun 25, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's pretty please not trade up for T.Will

And I even like T.Will. But jeez. We need good players on cheap contracts. If this team can’t figure out how to get successful ones without overpaying, we’re always gonna suck.

BullsTwo

by Sports2 on Jun 25, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Man, I'm getting excited/anxious

It’s going to be a wait till 16, unless something semi-unexpected happens before that. Not quite like last year and the instant gratification.

Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!

by wjb1492 on Jun 25, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

haha

tru
here we go

by Faizamaze on Jun 25, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm worried that we're set up for a bad night.

I don’t know about you guys but anything except Blair or a big trade will be a disappointment… and both of those seem pretty unlikely.

by potato0328 on Jun 25, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

link anyone?

macintosh-compatible por favor

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jun 25, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wooo hooo

found ESPN…ha! Whole time I thought the 70 channels would be only christian/spanish and middle eastern channels.

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 25, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

bulls will trade TT, deng, james, and both 1st round picks for bosh....

by masputo on Jun 25, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

says who? you?

care to add any credibility/substantiate your argument?

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jun 25, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol...relax buddy....im just saying....no substance to it.......im just excited...

by masputo on Jun 25, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not a shot at you

just don’t think it’s going to happen so i’m bitter already

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Jun 25, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whenever I see your name I see "mansquito" instead. Hehe.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 25, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs