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Gar Forman at the podium for pre-draft media scrum

First off, this dig from KC Johnson immediately tickled me.

The Bulls held their annual final media availability before the NBA draft with the team's general manager Monday morning, so that meant Gar Forman instead of John Paxson stood behind the podium and wouldn't reveal who they would draft.

Just kidding

Well done. I for one will never (ok, maybe sometime...eventually) get over how the Bulls previous (now promoted) GM rankled at the sight of any media obligation, with the possible exception of giving out the 47th 'Luol Deng: great man!' award of the year. No doubt that a big part of Pax's distaste for his well-paying high-profile job was dealing with the media and the dreaded 'misinformation' they churned daily.

I don't know either way if Gar Forman likes that part of the job either, but he did say a couple mildly interesting things:

On several media outlets, including the Tribune, reporting the Bulls are trying to package picks Nos. 16 and 26 and move up: "We've had some talks with teams about moving up. We've had some talks with teams about moving down. And we've had some talks with teams about moving out of the draft altogether. We have more options than some teams because we have two No. 1 picks."

On whether Ben Gordon's impending unrestricted free agency affects Thursday's draft plan: "It really doesn't. We're analyzing this draft by itself."

I'm encouraged by that Gordon answer not because it indicates any more desire to re-sign him (it seems more and more that the basketball people in The Org. are behind Gordon returning, for what that's worth), but that it acknowledges that losing him won't be fixed by the 16th pick in this draft, whoever it is.

And now I'm curious as to what sub-entity of Gar Paxdorf will be holding up jerseys after the draft...

UPDATE: MouthpieceSports video at DaBullz.com. And yes, Forman said 'process'.

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KC is tickling men; I hope his wife knows about this.

I agree with Foreman there I hear a lot of people calling it weak. But I’m liking the players in there. A lot of guys who can work well in the NBA its getting a lot deeper than it was like 5-6 years ago.

by Camry on Jun 22, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Gar said intel...

military intelligence; information : prewar intel. Nice! He seems like a GM now.

by SoulEater7 on Jun 22, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

yea Gar!

I like the vid on Andrew’s site…as Gar virtually tells Kirk to pack his bags:

“…Derrick Rose is obviously going to be our point guard for years to come…at the same time, we may take a point guard. If we feel the best player available at 16, for down the road is a point guard, then we’ll take a point guard. The scenarios that could play out on Thursday night, there are so many of them…”

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by NormVanBeer on Jun 22, 2009 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I love that quote

That screams Lawson, Lawson, Lawson… I’d be happy with that.

by YaoPau on Jun 23, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you prefer Lawson over Flynn?

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jun 23, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to say for sure, but yeah

Flynn’s a year and a half younger, so who knows for sure. He also has a 3.5" better wingspan and vertical, although that didn’t translate to steals or blocks in college. But Lawson’s the better 3pt shooter, he turns the ball over a lot less, and he was the star of the NCAA tournament while Flynn was so-so.

I think they’re both good offensively, they’ll both suck defensively, but Lawson’s actually gone out and dominated while I feel like Flynn’s stock is riding on his gritty performance vs. UConn and his better measurements.

by YaoPau on Jun 23, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lawson's supporting cast was awfully good

I thought he did great in the tournament, but when you’re out there with Ellington, Green, Hansbrough and Deon Thompson you’re looking at man coverage on every half court possession.

I like Flynn as the better pro.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Jun 23, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speak but say nothing... or speak and cast spells on other GMs...

I agree with those saying Gar has passed at least one of the important GM tests…the ability to reveal absolutely nothing while appearing to answer questions. It took Pax some time to get reasonably good at that, but he would usually let something out that other teams could use around draft time.

Now, the next level for Gar….(whose persona fits the name well…he also sounds like Larry Bird)…is the GM who can bamboozle other GMs… like Pat Riley has sometimes managed by elaborate misleading public statement campaigns going on for weeks….

by Cholla on Jun 23, 2009 1:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I didn't get the impression he was a man-crush type GM

No more man-crushes on Kirk, Tyrus, Noc and Deng which prevented trades, hopefully will lessens wasted draft picks and bloated contracts.

No more promising and picking James PeeOn types ..

man up!

by exult463 on Jun 23, 2009 6:51 AM CDT reply actions  

unless that Mullens promise is legit :)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 23, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

So little "talk" on here. Is it because everyone is so excited about Thursday night?

I’m actually sort of excited. There are so many possibilities for so many teams, it’s going to be hard for Gar Paxdorf NOT to do something. Teams will come to them. Maybe. For me, the only way this draft can completely suck is if they do nothing and draft Mullens and Toney Douglas, Jr. (because Mullens would suggest looking looooong term—and that they think Asik might be hurt more, or just less likely to come over, than we know-and drafting a backup PG for 4 or 5 years down the road doesn’t make sense to me)

Basically, as long as they don’t do that, it’s hard to see where I wouldn’t at least be “satisfied” going into free agency.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 23, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree

I’m getting antsy.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 23, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am not as excited this year.

The Bulls do not have a lottery pick for the first time since ’05 and as such, there are no heated debates on whom they should draft, because there is so much uncertainty of who will even be available…There is no BG/Iggy debate, no Noah/Hawes, no Thomas/Aldridge/Roy/Williams debate…

With that said, I am getting excited because there is a lot of talk of moving up or down…deals could be made and my wish of no rookies from this draft could become a possibility.

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 23, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do not like the idea of moving up in this draft, blah

Oh, I’m super excited for Tyler Hansborough or BJ Mullens, yay.

Can they package 16 and 26 for something next season?

I will, of course, watch the draft, because I have no life ><

Somebody should make a comic called "Tulowitzki the Combat Shortstop". I'd read it.

UMD 8/04 - 5/08: Go Terps!

by ES46NE10 on Jun 23, 2009 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

so..

gar > pax?*

*still pending

I was watching the 1995 Playoffs VS the Magic's and remembered how much I hated Horace Grant. Horace Grant - i hope you burn in bball hell

by Belize on Jun 23, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

i agree with your last point about gordon

and how it will be good if the org doesnt view this draft as possibly a way to replace him. however, these rumors of trading up to get gerald henderson scare me a bit in that regard— after all, he does seem to be the big, defensive minded 2 guard that all the “experts” seem to think would be such a great fit next to rose. i dont mind henderson as a player, but id like him a lot more as a complementary piece to both gordon and rose.

by Calogero on Jun 23, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know why, but I never linked to my trade proposal at Golden State of Mind.

Oops.

I posted it yesterday morning, so I’m sure they’re pretty well past talking about it.

The trade:

Warriors get:

Kirk Hinrich + 2009 #16 + 2009 #26

Bulls get:

Kelenna Azubuike + Brandan Wright + Marco Belinelli + 2010 2nd-round pick (because, why not?)

Salaries barely work, but they do.

The Warriors would be replacing Azubuike w/ Hinrich which as an obvious upgrade considering their needs, and they don’t play Wright or Belinelli anyway. They get two draft picks as well to try to move up and ensure they get Jordan Hill or to take guys like Earl Clark, Terrance Williams, BJ Mullens, etc. They could start Hinrich and Monta Ellis (at whichever positions they want) w/ Stephen Jackson or Corey Maggette at SF, and they’d be backed up by Jamal Crawford and the other of Jackson or Maggette. They’d have Ronnie Turiaf, Andres Biedrins, Anthony Randolph and … Jordan Hill? to man the Big spots.

Ellis/Crawford
Hinrich/Morrow
Maggette/Jackson
Randolph/Hill
Biedrins/Turiaf
(and whatever they take w/ the other picks. I’d trade 2 into 1 just to avoid having three rookies—either 7 + 16 to get to 5 or 16 + 26 to get to 11, 12.)

The Bulls get a backup PG they’d need if they traded away Hinrich, their M2GwcSaD that they’ve been in search for four years now and an offensive-minded PF. The latter two are positions they’d be trying to fill in with this draft anyway, and this way they can get somewhat more proven commodities.

Rose/???
Salmons/Azubuike
Deng/Salmons/Thomas/Azubuike/Wright/WINGS!!!
Thomas/Wright
Noah/Miller (then Asik)

My preferred deal might be to re-sign Gordon and trade Salmons for an unguaranteed contract or to an under-the-cap team for a pick. But that’s a runnin’, gunnin’ team and if they got a real coach, they might actually play some defense from time to time. Then a year from now just go ahead and trade Gordon and Wright/Thomas + a 1st-rounder for Wade or Bosh and sign the other outright. Voila!

Rose/???
Wade/Azubuike
Deng/Azubuike
Bosh/ThomasORWright
Noah/Asik

WHOA!

If the Warriors could give up #7 and #16 to Washington to move up and grab Hill, I think this is an outstanding trade for them. Still pretty damn good if they don’t move up, too.

(update: revealing I didn’t look close enough. Why did I think Belinelli could play PG? Could he do it for 10 mpg (because Derrick Rose will be playing the other 38)?)

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Jun 23, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's my 2 cents...

Trade Hinrich & 2010 1st round pick to Portland for Blake, Outlaw, and this years 24th pick.

Flip #24 and #16 picks to New Jersey for #11…draft T Williams or Henderson. I like Willaims.

Draft D Green with #26

Resign BG (find a way)

Sign Sean May to a 1-2 yr $2-3 million contact as a low risk high reward backup PF…if he sucks and is hurt oh well…but could be a decent backup post scoring option.

At the trade deadline…trade Deng, TT, TiT, and filler for Stat or Bosh. Maybe throw in Outlaw if needed. Of course this hinges on Deng coming back healthy to reastablish value and TT showing improvement…both big “ifs”. Sign whichever All Star PF we trade for to max extention deal.

Eventually get to a lineup something like this…

Rose/ Blake
Gordon/ Williams or Henderson
Salmons/ Outlaw(maybe)/ Green
Stat or Bosh/ May
Noah/ Miller/ James(if he’s not gone already)

…and a few more bench warmers. This looks like it would be in lux tax land but it is also a team that could contend for a title for the next 4-5 years.

by ronmexibull on Jun 23, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions  

the 2010 draft is stacked and the Bulls probably aren't a top 7 team in the league this coming year

so letting go of our 2010 first rounder for the #24 in a crap draft is a bad idea.

"Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy." --Newton

by fundamentallysound on Jun 24, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

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