NCAA alleges major violations in Memphis basketball program under Calipari

who cares if he is?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 27, 2009 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

The NCAA “amateur athlete” is a joke and I am under no illusions that Rose went to Memphis for academics. That said, I would care if the player was Rose. Rose is a nice story for the city and the team and a SAT cheating episode tarnishes it. It sounds corny, but his history of relying on his family to overcome a lousy neighborhood, stay out of trouble and accomplish some positive things is good for kids to hear. Cheating is not really compatible with that. Selfishly, I do not want to hear about this “scandal” from the media and opposing fans for the rest of Rose’s career. It will be a perpetual annoyance.

by Stay Chisel on May 27, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

People will forget about this pretty quickly

Lebron James got a Hummer in high school, and was temporarily declared ineligible. That was a huge story at the time, but people hardly mention it anymore. If Rose ends up being as good as we all think he can be, this will be only a footnote in his career.

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by Big D on May 27, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

Pretty much

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by Illini15 on May 27, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree Big D

But, here’s the thing: This is an opportunity to actually fix the whole thing. No Bulls fan cares. Nobody was under the illusion this guy was going to Memphis to become a Rhodes Scholar, unless becoming one of the most dominant PG’s, if not the most dominant, for over a decade qualifies.

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Impeccable character down the drain?

What could go wrong?

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you need a corresponding decoder ring.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, like the time when everyone in Chicago shunned Jordan for his gambling addiction

Or Pippen for his domestic abuse case, or Rodman with his rampant alcoholism? Yep, their reputations are sullied forever because of their character flaws.

Oh wait, no one cares about what a player does off the court if he wins.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on May 28, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But this isn't solely about off the court

It is strictly about eligibility to stay on the court.

What you reference are infractions that many people make, certainly adults. But they do suffer real consequences.

Derrick may not have known about what was going on which is even more troubling. It’s more than possible that he took the test, took the classes, and had OTHER people change his grades and submit other people’s results to pass as his own. The ends are to maintain his eligibility to play the game of basketball, but this is clearly cheating the standards by which enable him to play at the level he allegedly needs to create the best chances for himself. The other roads are far less traveled and littered with guys that didn’t make it.

Now, Michael Jordan never cheated when he gambled. At least not with houses with penalties that have real world consequences. But suppose Michael was trying to change his bets at the roulette table.

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you want character, watch a fucking movie

Because you’re not going to find much of it watching people bounce a ball up and down a court.

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about

truth and honesty? Am I asking the impossible?

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why in the world would you look for truth and honesty in college basketball?

That’s like looking for innocence in a whorehouse.

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOl Big D

That’s a great analogy.

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

1.It has to be Derrick
2.Who gives a fuck?

by C Smoove on May 27, 2009 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They are starting to talk out of both sides of their mouths now.

These guys are majoring in basketball. We all know that. They don’t even make them finish out more than a year of school. College basketball is a business, not school. And the colleges make a ton of money from that business side of things. Seems like every few years this flairs up but it happens all the time. So why is is popping up this time?

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by cranscape on May 27, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ever listen to Rose talk?

As several people here have pointed out before, he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he had to cheat on his SAT’s to become eligible. Fortunately you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to be a great basketball player. It’s sad that the NBA age limit has forced kids who can’t academically qualify to take these kinds of measures, instead of letting them go pro and earn an honest living.

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by Big D on May 27, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That last line is ridiculous (putting it nicely)

it was a stupid move by Derrick, and a typically shitty move by Calipari, but that doesn’t mean you get to pass the blame off on the NBA.

by darksmokepuncher on May 28, 2009 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is of course of total myth

Basketball players can play pro ball without a high school diploma. You’re are talking about the big leagues and suggesting that is some sort of unfair barrier to entry. The NBA is a cartel. It can make any rules it wants. Memphis has to abide by NCAA rules to participate in their cartel.

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And they have to live with the results of those rules

This is the result – a kid who has no business being in college cheating in order to qualify,

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Of course not

So the perpetrators of the deception must suffer the equitable consequences. Blaming the cartel when they put their rules in writing is low brow comedy at best.

If you want to sing on the biggest stage the academics are the easiest hurdle.

I commend guys like Brandon Jennings. He did sell himself short on the academics, but he expressed no interest at all in trying to improve in this area. His parents were on board. He fled to Italy for a sabbatical.

The good news is that just getting Brandon Jennings out of his American habitat has probably taught him so much he may end up wanting to finish college some day.

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

By "perpetrators," do you mean Memphis?

Because Rose sure isn’t going to suffer many consequences. I guess it’s possible he might lose out on some endorsements, but he has so little charisma that he wasn’t going to be a big endorsement guy anytime soon anyways. Considering he parlayed his one year at Memphis into being the #1 pick and becoming a millionaire, it’s hard to argue he didn’t make the right choice, unfortunately.

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look at the other side

Derrick stays at Memphis. He now is under pressure from the NCAA who can lean on him for information to determine the actual events that led to his surprise, last minute decision to attend Memphis.

Going pro gives Derrick the individual a clean slate. It’s done the same for Reggie Bush. Marcus Camby never paid a price.

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What the hell are you talking about?

There was never a chance in hell Rose or Mayo were going to stay in school one minute longer than they had to. Rose probably would have never even bothered taking the SAT if not for the age limit.

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LBJ went to the NBA right out of high school.

Now that it isn’t an option you are likely going to see more talented guys “squeak” through. (Not saying James couldn’t have gotten in to college. He just got to avoid the year of free labor guys down the line are doing for these college$.)

That being said, I just checked out the ACT/SAT for entering Memphis…looks like they enroll houseplants there. You don’t even have to hardly crack 20 on your ACTs to be an average student there. Cheating to get into there shows you are extremely desperate. Probably hadn’t paid attention to school since 6th grade. Which why would you if you have your vocation figured out. I know I haven’t used algebra since school.

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by cranscape on May 27, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

And 20 is not a high ACT score either

I think you get 15 points just for putting your name on the exam, so if you can’t break a 20, you have no business being anywhere near college. It says a lot about how corrupt big-time college sports is that they actually want these kids and try to pass them off as real students. I love the shit about “Oh, the kids need an education” . . . yeah, they needed one in grammar school and high school! If they haven’t gotten one by that point (and you obviously haven’t if you get that low a ACT score), college isn’t going to do much good.

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by Big D on May 27, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn

I should have went to Memphis. I’m at least as smart as a houseplant.

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What is the old axiom? If you are not cheating, you are not trying.

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by Dionysus2.0 on May 27, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

OMG WHAT A HUGE BLOW TO THE CREDIBILITY OF BASKETBALL

Oh wait, no one gives a shit.

Rose for his part is denying this, and his agents/family will have some fun playing damage control. I guess the summer got a little more interesting for him.

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by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on May 27, 2009 11:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

Like any of us actually gives a fuck

by Option27 on May 27, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually do care.

If it turns out Derrick participated in this, I’ve lost a great deal of respect for him – you peddle the humble, coachable image, the blow of something like this is much bigger.

He probably doesn’t give a shit that I do. But I definitely give a shit if he did.

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by wjb1492 on May 28, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What does being humble and coachable have to do with the SAT wjb?

Seriously.

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is like he is a draft dodger or something.

Only he isn’t. He did a fake year at school using a fake SAT score. Fortunately he plays real basketball and I enjoy watching him while he is on the court and that is it.

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by cranscape on May 28, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're telling me a poor black kid who had a gift from playing basketball

who supposedly graduated from the Chicago Public High School system has a fake degree and a SAT score? And, this is about Derrick Rose. Please, sorry, gotta do better than that.

Lotsa kids from bad public education systems make it with education. Derrick Rose didn’t have to. Lots more kids don’t even make it with public bad education.

I was very lucky my parents were able to put my through a private elementary school. Lord knows I learned very little from my teachers in public school in 7-12th grades.

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guess I should have added all-around great kid to the list?

I realize a lot of people here don’t care, which was Ozzie’s point. I’m just saying I do care.

I live in the world of academics, and academic fraud is a big deal to me, no matter who does it or what their situation is. So for the record, at least one person does give a shit.

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by wjb1492 on May 29, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe, but the larger organization here is never going to make wholesale changes to prevent this from happening

The NCAA rewards cheaters with bigger jobs and paychecks, and they punish them with the stupidest policy ever, “OK folks, we’re going to pretend none of this ever happened, shame on all of you.”

I find it hard to lay any blame on Rose when Mayo, Beasley, and God knows how many other athletes have been used by universities as cash cows for their athletic programs. The only thing Rose is guilty of is being a bad student.

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by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on May 28, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder how adamant the NCAA will be

if they realizes that more kids could do like Jeremy Tyler did. Does Tyler look smarter every day for jumping to Europe for 2 years.

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I will totally admit

That when I heard kids were thinking about it, I thought it was totally stupid. But after hearing why Jeremy Tyler did it, I think he made the right decision. Especially if his grades weren’t that bad, and was capable of passing the SAT.

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hope he cheats us a ring =D

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by Belize on May 27, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

From the Sun-Times:

Luther Topps, who coached Rose’s club basketball team with Derrick’s brother Reggie, has been aware of the NCAA investigation for three weeks. According to Topps, the NCAA threatened to revoke former Simeon player Tim Flowers college eligibility if Flowers didn’t agree to an interview.

‘‘Tim told me the NCAA kept bothering him,’’ Topps said. ‘‘That if he didn’t talk they were going to take away his eligibility. [The NCAA] thinks that [former Simeon player Kevin Johnson] took [the SAT test] for him.’’

Dammit, how come I didn’t think of that for my law school exams?

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by Big D on May 27, 2009 11:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oops, forgot the link:

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/1595888,052709-derrick-rose-ncaa-investigation.article

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by Big D on May 27, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually know someone who was disbarred for cheating in law school

The guy’s wife heavily edited several of his papers – when he filed for divorce several months after passing the bar, she contact the bar association about it.

Somehow I think the NBA cares much less about disciplining it’s subjects for academic violations…

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by wjb1492 on May 28, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope we don't get some pious statement from Pax about this.

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 12:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

first OJ Mayo and now Derrick?

Why did they only found out about this when these players are pros and not when they were still playing in the NCAA? no one gives a shit about it now.

"...Lies, damned lies, and statistics."

by Teri on May 28, 2009 1:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Where's John Calipari?

Once again, Calipari leaves a program just in time and his recruits follow him.

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

the man is good.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

David Blaine "like" even

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is beginning to make Rose's

“from Chicaaaago” in the starting lineup make a lot more sense. Even Rose isn’t claiming his stint in college.

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by cranscape on May 28, 2009 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs

Ouch

The walk back on this story should be interesting.

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So they are claiming someone took his test for him

I remember when i had to take my SAT ….. they had me provide my California ID at the time or at least an school id for those that didn’t have one. So Team D Rose had someone create a fake id for imposter D Rose, then imposter D Rose walked into the SAT testing center
Imposter D Rose: I here for my SAT
Testing center employee: Your name and high school you attend
Imposter D Rose: Derrick Rose .. Simeon High School
Testing center employee: wow your Derrick Rose .. you sure look different then you do on tv and the local newspaper
Imposter D Rose: Um that’s because I don’t have my jersey on right now
Testing center employee: Well you state issue ID says your name is Derrick Rose, so go ahead and have a seat in room 215
Imposter D Rose: Gracias

by Bullsfanla on May 28, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

I had to point to my picture in a year book.

Now that was very official.

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by cranscape on May 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is funny

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-calipari052809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Every top player like Rose, should he so choose, can turn to any number of hovering professional sports agents for anything he needs.

Even a high enough test score (Rose denies in the letter any wrongdoing).

It might have been Memphis, an obvious beneficiary of his eligibility, which did it. It also might have been someone who wanted to curry favor with him and his family so that after he did his six months at college, he might sign with them. Rose might not have even known about what the NCAA richly describes as "fraudulence and misconduct."

Rose probably didn’t do it himself, because if you’re capable of figuring out how to fix the SAT you probably don’t have to.

Apparently it took Rose three tries to get a score in the mid 700’s. Not 700 for the reading or math section – mid 700’s for both.

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Chicago Public Schools is certainly a beacon of academic excellence

This reminds me of Hoop Dreams, when the kid had to take the ACT 5 times to get a 17.5 for a scholarship (because the ACT rounds up).

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on May 28, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess it should have been a tipoff when Rose signed his Bulls contract with an "X"

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it was when he wrote "OK" in the section that said Do Not Write Here

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by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on May 28, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Technically,

Rose wouldn’t have to know if someone took the test for him after he tried himself. All he would know was that he had taken the test and that the college accepted him. He wouldn’t know which SAT score the college had on file. Someone around him could have set that up and given him the plausible denial angle which is why he is looking pretty silly denying all of that.

Couldn’t Memphis accept him even if he was stupid? They have control over who they accept, right? If they want to accept someone not very bright why couldn’t they? Looking at their admissions info they already do enroll not so smart people.

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by cranscape on May 28, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They could have accepted him, but he wouldn't have been eligible to play his freshman year

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

how are they sure that it was rose? was he like the only freshman that year?

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by Yibs on May 28, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That's what we know

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's more . . .

http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/1596666,derrick-rose-simeon-grades-cheat-memphis.article

Someone with access to Derrick Rose’s academic records at Simeon High School changed a D to a C, boosting the future Bulls Rookie of the Year’s transcript for college, sources told the Chicago Sun-Times today.

Who falsified the records in the grade-changing scandal remains a mystery that the Chicago Public Schools has been unable to solve.

Rose, 20, was one of four Simeon athletes whose grades were boosted for a one-month period after their June 2007 graduation and then changed back after the bogus transcripts had been sent to colleges, according to sources and a report by the CPS inspector general.

"None of the grade changes were supported by any documentation," Inspector General James Sullivan wrote in the 2008 annual report.

The students were not named in the report, but sources told the Sun-Times Rose was one of the four.

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by Big D on May 28, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow the NCAA is serious

This comes from the espn article

“The NCAA has asked Memphis to provide copies of the SAT and a Sept. 2, 2008, report by a forensic document examiner who studied the handwriting in the SAT.”

Really … just to see if he cheated. It’s funny how they are probing Mayo and Rose now. I think it’s clearly because they left early and the NCAA was issue with that. If these kids would of stayed in school the NCAA wouldn’t looking into this.

by Bullsfanla on May 28, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

huh

I think it’s clearly because they left early and the NCAA was issue with that. If these kids would of stayed in school the NCAA wouldn’t looking into this.

It’s the exact opposite. If Mayo and Rose were still in school they could be forced by the NCAA to cooperate with an investigation into their recruitment. The NCAA could suspend their eligibility if they refused to cooperate. It’s a sensitive subject that requires privacy, but the NCAA, the schools, their athletic departments, the coaches, and the player would all know about it. That’s a lot of potential sources for leaks.

Going pro was the best thing Mayo and Rose could do to protect themselves and leave the schools on the hook.

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by NBA Observer on May 28, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So why are tall those things coming out a year after they (Rose & Mayo) dropped out of school?

And had very successful rookie season’s? Yet another attempt to bemurch the kids who come out early. If they were white, it wouldn’t work. There wouldn’t be as much outrage guaranteed.

I’m a white guy from California. I don’t give a damn about NCAA academic standards since they’re a joke anyway. Any institution that allows players like Ruben Patterson to go to school for 4 years is a complete JOKE. And Patterson is just one of many. And for crying out loud, Patterson even had to go to a JUCO first.

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs