It's official - no discipline for Rondo
[From the FanShots. Not a real surprise, it's laughable what Rondo's gotten away with, obvious to the point where an argument isn't even valid. Don't rationalize, Celtics fans, embrace your savvy veteran championship whatever. -ed.]
Well, flagrant 1 stands.
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This is ridiculous. It even says they saw him throw the elbow.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
Did you find one that has the league's rationale in it?
I really want to hear what they had to say, particularly about the elbow. Too bad Orlando won that game anyway, because their fans would be super-hot.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
No
Hinrich pushed him back and Rondo then threw an elbow that missed.
In the article you posted.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 1, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
This is even better:
NEW YORK (AP) — The NBA has decided not to take any additional action against Rajon Rondo for his skirmish with Kirk Hinrich in Game 6.
The league said Friday the first-quarter play would stand as a flagrant foul against Rondo. It could have upgraded the foul or even suspended the Celtics’ point guard for Game 7 of the series Saturday.
Chicago was leading 34-25 Thursday when Derrick Rose rebounded a missed 3-pointer by Boston’s Stephon Marbury with 30 seconds left. That’s when Rondo shoved Hinrich into the scorer’s table. Hinrich pushed him back and Rondo then threw an elbow that missed.
The league previously declined to further penalize Rondo for his foul on Brad Miller in the closing seconds of Game 5.
There will be no further action against Celtics guard Rajon Rondo and Bulls guard Kirk Hinrich for their altercation late in the first quarter of Game 6 of their Eastern Conference quarterfinal series Thursday night, said NBA spokesman Tim Frank.
With 28 seconds remaining in the quarter, Rondo and Hinrich collided on the right side of the court. Rondo grabbed Hinrich’s arm and pushed him against the scorer’s table. Hinrich then shoved Rondo before referee Ed Malloy stepped in between the two players as they exchanged words, with Hinrich bounding around like a boxer.
Rondo, already a target of Bulls fans after his hard foul on Chicago’s Brad Miller at the end of Game 5, was assessed a flagrant 1 foul. Hinrich received a technical foul.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Pushed him against
the scorer’s table? LOL!!! “With Hinrich bounding around like a boxer.” They forgot about Ronda back peddaling like a little girl part.
the globe is a freaking joke of a paper
my favorite was when they reported that danny crawford and bill kennedy were chicago natives, only it turned out kennedy was from arizona, and ziller called the globe out for being a disgrace and it took the frank dell’apa all day to get back to him and when he did he goes “it wasn’t me that decided to put that in my story with my name on the byline, it was marc spears.”
Way to go NBA
Another Blow Call!!! I hope Aaron Gray choke slams Rondo tomorrow!!! Send him to hell Kane …. I mean Aaron!!!!
by Bullsfanla on May 1, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
this is a joke...
…then again, NO FRIGGIN WAY the league does anything that comes close to impacting the Chumps for game 7.
They just made a good point on CTL a few minutes ago…someone mentioned (either KC or Will Perdue) that Kirk should’ve flopped over the scorer’s table and into the first row when Rondo threw him. They said the refs would’ve had no choice at that point to eject Rondo and possibly suspend him for the next game.
Kirk’s never been much of a flopper at all, so I couldn’t see that happening.
This stinks though. A few of some sort would’ve been nice at the very least.
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This team definitely doesn't flop enough.
Seriously.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
not seriously
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
What's next?
Rondo punches Rose and doesn’t get suspended? This league is fucking ridiculous. Even awful leagues like some of the European suspend players for a aggression attempt or a aggression. If what Rondo did – trying to hit Hinrich with the elbow – is not a aggression attempt, I don’t know what that is.
I'm actually kind of curious about what would be a flagrant 2
Not that I want any of the Bulls to be injured in any way, but a small part of me wants to see Rondo do something even more ridiculous tomorrow and see what happens. Not even to start something or anything – just seriously, what is a flagrant 2 now? Because to me it kind of seems that the size of the player committing the foul has something to do with it. We know what a 7-foot flagrant 2 looks like; what does a 6-foot (or almost) flagrant 2 look like?
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Fuck it
A win in the wannabe Boston Garden tomorrow night will be his punishment.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on May 1, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That is the best revenged indeed
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revenge^
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Ridiculous.
"Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy." --Newton
by fundamentallysound on May 1, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions
I don't know why anyone would even want Rondo to be suspended?
We’re seeing an amazing series, one of the best ever, we’ve played them tough with Rondo. Why would you guys want to give them an excuse if we do win? I want Rondo playing and I;m happy he didn’t get thrown out last night.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
It's not about wanting to play them without Rondo or not at full strength...
…it’s about Rondo constantly getting away with lil cheap shots and punk plays. He’s been slapping, shoving, pulling, and nothing has been done.
Besides, they already have an “excuse” if we win…he’s been barking on the bench all series…
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by NormVanBeer on May 1, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
“You feel that sting, big boy, huh? That’s pride FUCKIN’ with you! You gotta fight through that shit! "
Come on JBJ, give me a break. Rondo out, helps Bulls win, nobody feels bad in the least. ‘They’ have a boatload of excuses at the ready as it is. Anybody who uses them are jokes anyway, so if a Rondo suspension gave them another one, helped the Bulls win, and made them feel like shit watching the Bulls win, how is that bad?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 1, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously
you’d feel a twinge of regret , at all, if the Bulls won while Rondo was suspended? Are you nuts?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 1, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand what he's saying, that he wants the Bulls to beat the Celtics
so that it doesn’t tarnish the series and give people a chance to say, ‘’well Rondo and KG were both out.’’ which I understand.
Im at the point were I just wanna see Boston lose no matter what.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
Isn't that what last night's win was?
Beating Boston with good basketball instead of retaliation… only to have Boston continue with their dangerous and dirty tactics and the refs to not come down hard on them in the least. If anything last night’s game saw even more bogus calls/non-calls on dirty play and the “coming down hard” led us to get touch fouls in the first five minutes of the game that would come back to haunt some of our players later on.
I suppose we could do it for one more game OR the fresh batch of crap from yesterday’s game could finally have some real consequences for Boston. At this point it really would only be their own fault. Instead, once again, Boston gets a big thumbs up by the league. And it will be much harder tomorrow to win with class and good basketball on an away game. If anything Rondo has a bigger shield on him tomorrow and a green light coming from the league.
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Deng being out doesn't count? if not for argument sake!
I would feel no " twinge of regret " if a Bulls reserved came in a popped Rondo or Pierce with the other starting 4 boston players on the bench and then all 4 leaving the bench to help out..
man up!
KG being out is already enough
I’m dead serious though, FOR ME, if Rondo went out it would cheapen the victory. At what point are they not even the Celtics anymore? I can’t stand the little bastard, but I want the Bulls to whoop his ass and I want D Rose to take him to school. That’s why this series has been so great. It takes villains just as much as it takes heroes.
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by Juiceboxjerry on May 1, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Lovin' the Pulp Fiction quote though:)
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by Juiceboxjerry on May 1, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
they're not the celtics anymore
from the start of this series! That’s why it’s even close.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 2, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously. This isn't "the Celtics" as we think about them.
They are the middling 4th, 5th or 6th seed Celtics they would have been w/o KG all year. If the 76ers lost Iguodala or the Hawks lost Joe Johnson, would it be cheapening the victory? i mean, yeah, they’d not be beating as good of a team, but still… I dunno. I just want them to win and play more basketball. That makes me the happiest. Not having Rondo gives them a better chance to win.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
And Rondo would have only done it to himself.
If every player was given the Rondo treatment it would be different (it also would hardly resemble basketball, but whatever). Now that Rondo has the 007 designation I can’t really find a reason why he would stop his bad behavior now or in the future if the Celtics move on. Bad behavior pays off.
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If Boston moves on
I’m really hoping there’s another incident and the league suddenly decides to come down hard on Rondo. I’m not sure they can ignore any more incidents from him – but then I would have thought they couldn’t ignore just the stuff from this series either, so what do I really know?
While I’d much rather the Bulls move on, if it doesn’t work out that way I’d love to see Rondo smack Dwight Howard in the face and see what happens after Dwight got suspended for an elbow and Rondo didn’t.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
The Bulls aren't going to win the championship
or get to it. They’re playing for pride, essentially. Simmons was right when he said that this is the finals for both the Bulls and the Celtics.
Taking that into account, I just want to see a fitting end to the most exciting series i’ve watched. Yes, i’’m including the Jordan years, because in those series I never really doubted the Bulls would win, and they seldom gave me reason to doubt.
I love this series because of the intense evenly matched basketball. Getting a cheap win in game 7 because of something, would make me feel every bit as cheated as the Boston fans would feel. If the Bulls win, when I talk to Boston fans after this, I want them to know that the league didn’t screw them over, the Bulls did.
This whole series has reminded me of the true reason I watch sports. It’s not to win, it’s to be entertained. If game 7 was in Chicago and the Bulls won, I’d give the Celtics a standing ovation as they walked off the court.
There's a distinction for me
I don’t have a problem with facing Boston with Rondo in a competitive sense – I don’t like the virtual asterisks people attach to a win when that happens. (See KU vs. OU without Blake Griffith for a great example)
What I don’t like is Rondo getting away with crap because the games are “big,” particularly not when he’s been involved in several excessive plays over the last couple of games. He could have been further sanctioned without being suspended, although I think that’s a huge double standard after Dwight Howard sat out the same fricking night for an elbow. Doing nothing tacitly lends approval to that as nothing but a flagrant 1.
While on one level I know that the rules are different for “star” players as a practical matter, it bugs the hell out of me. The rules shouldn’t be different depending on who you are, or who the other guy involved is, or that the next game is an elimination game – and I think Dwight Howard, and Trevor Ariza, and even D-Wade should be royally pissed that Rondo’s antics have been treated so leniently.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
I'd rather win with Rondo playing.
That said, it is BS he has gotten away with two dirty plays in consecutive games with nothing but a slap on the wrist. If the Bulls find themselves getting blown out, I for one, will have no problem with someone taking a hard foul on Rondo if he ventures down the lane. And honestly, how could Celts fans even complain?
by BLEIGH 82 on May 2, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Some of me finds poetic justice in that
Rose blocked Rondo’s shot at the end of the game.
While I’m not a Bulls fan, and I don’t have a stake in this either way, watching tonight will be fun. More so because of the drama and consternation surrounding Rondo. Watching Derrick Rose is simply fun. I’m not surprised, but simply happy.
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it's unbelievable
yet so believable at the same time.
what a fucking joke.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
What's so frusterating is the inconsistency
of the calls by the NBA. If Horry got suspended and thrown out for 2 games by hipchecking Nash into the boards, is Rondo only a flagrant 1? Look at a list of the suspensions in the playoffs the past few years. They have given a ton of them. Just not this series
by The90sBullsRevival on May 1, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
Kirk got fined for throwing his mouth piece
in the playoffs vs the heat. Rondo doesn’t even get a fine for throwing an elbow
by The90sBullsRevival on May 1, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Or throwing Kirk.
So you can’t throw Kirk’s mouthpiece into the stands, but you can throw Kirk into the stands. Got it.
by smash! on May 1, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
HA!
had kirks moutpiece fallen out of his mouth, he mightve been suspended….
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on May 1, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's official - no discipline for Rondo
NOR SHOULD THERE BE…LISTEN TO THE NATIONAL MEDIA…TOO CLOSE TO CALL.
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Trolling homer
go back to the primodial douche puddle you crawled out of and rub one out to the tranny-elf’s “playoff toughness”
by torch on May 1, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
I think you forgot to put that all in CAPS,
McPoo.
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Hey, hey, hey...
I’m inclined to agree with the boys on ‘pardon the interuption’ and others at ESPN.
Not really a big deal, makes for a more exciting series, the C’s are depleted enough, almost an automatic win for Chicago if Rondo were to be suspended, less viewers nationally if that were to occur as well IMO.
Good luck tomorrow night!
Should bw an epic battle.
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Sorry, had my 11 month old daughter in my arms...
Didn’t know y’all graded people around here…
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Then perhaps Rondo shouldn't have been an idiot two games in a row.
Does he know we are tuning in to watch basketball? Not to see what he looks like off of his medication.
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Go play with your daughter instead of trolling on our site.
PTI represents a very small portion of “national media” and I watched PTI today, too. I guess I have a better memory though, bc when I saw it, they were split on this topic. Surprisingly, it was that Jackie clown from your Boston Globe making the argument that it wasn’t a F2. She also ended the show with her closing comments, praising the best young point guard in the game today: Derrick Rose. Ha.
Tell us how you really feel
There’s a lot of talk about this being the ‘greatest series’ ever.
My thought is that if tomorrow night’s game is close, then it is right up there.
Without RONDO in the lineup, it couldn’t possibly be a close game…automatic BULLS win basically. I think that thought process played a role in the NBA brass preventing Rondo from sitting…especially since it’s game 7.
I do, however, think a fine should have been order for him, regardless of where my loyalty lies…and it’s a little upseting that there was none given the recent others (i.e. Ray Allen’s elbow to the groin).
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
lol
I can’t tell if you’re a real (dumb) Celtics fan or a clever creation of yfBB to drive up site traffic.
by drew gooden's facial growth on May 1, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope, C's fan
I wouldn’t call myself ‘dumb’…funny, this blog allows all kinds of nasty language and attacks on other bloggers
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Too perfect!
Well done, yfBB.
by drew gooden's facial growth on May 1, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, it does
hurray!
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swear words!
my virgin eyes! oh no!!!
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by chibullsfan03 on May 2, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
My eyes are virgins
Fuck! Ass!
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I normally don't do this, but
My friend and I were talking about the game, obviously, and he sent me this link. This is the rondo-kirk incident from the view of a celtics fan. They legitimately believe that kirk is the instigator here and that kirk should be suspended! I’m still laughing reading some of these comment and I thought I would share:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zy9I28-7M
i wouldnt mistake the demented ramblings of one or two idiots
for what all celtics fans think
for real tho
I was watching the game with a very casual bandwagon celtics fan, and she was saying how kirk started it.
"...Lies, damned lies, and statistics."
GAH
thanks for this link i posted a comment, and yea…someone bitches that the refs have to go both ways….according to him the bulls are getting away with a ton of cheap stuff while the celtics are being called for tick tack fouls…….LOL!!!!!!!!
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
im curious what it would take for rondo to get tossed and/or suspended
a sucker punch? a tackle? a stabbing?
Folding chair, most likely.
Even Stern could not let that pass.
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by Granny Waiters on May 1, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
These rulings have certainly given him an incentive to find out
by drew gooden's facial growth on May 1, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions
My cousin (whom I'd call a bandwagon homer if his dad hadn't liked the C's forever)
is being a dumbass about this, too. If he didn’t like Hinrich so much that he calls him Heiny (possibly the dumbest nickname I’ve ever heard) from playing against several times in junior high, he’d probably be hating Hinrich, too. It’s tough to argue with irrational people.
Rondo at least deserves a fine, bare minimum.
Oh, and Rondo wasn’t being dirty, he was just “flinch-reacting” or something like that. My cousin would do that, too. Apparently, it’s easier to defend yourself while throwing a punch than actually having both arms able to defend yourself. Or something like that.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
you have a cousin that played against hinrich
or am i reading that first paragraph wrong?
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
No. He did in junior high.
He was on Western Iowa traveling team and went to a small Catholic school. There aren’t many of either of those around here.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Thats pretty cool
i dont know if you guys have ever talked about it, since i hinrich can be considered an average nba player, at that time how far was the gap of basketball ability between say hinrich and the next best player on the court. I wanna say that average nba players dominate up until college and only then do they find players near or greater than them.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
I assume you haven't seen the Hinrich high-school mix tape?
it’s actually awesome.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 2, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
cmon matt
look who your talking to….also i noticed you took down my rondo hinrich fanshot (with the playoff amazing theme) video. I dont really mind i was just wondering what the reason was, i thought maybe it was sucking up too much bandwidth or something….
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
The review of the Miller head shot.
Is a bigger deal than this, since even if they gave him a flagrant 1 for that, he would be up to 2 pts now, one for each flagrant. 4 pts and you get suspended.
That's a total outrage!
How much are they going to let this guy get away with?
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
Rondo
In watching Rondo every game since he’s been here, he’s typically a quiet, non-dirty, fundamentally strong point guard who’s grown into being the trusted general of this Celtics team, for him to blast Miller in the face as he drove the lane, costing the Bulls game 5, and for him to spin Hinrich to the scorer’s table like that are two instances that are quite out of character for him.
I think the intensity is getting to his young brain.
Still, as a Celtics fan, and a realist, the safe bet (thankfully) is with the Celtics in game 7.
You guys will have serious props if you win, and truly, it’ll be the better team as this has been an epic series…if we had KG and POWE and a full C’s squad, banner 18 would be a much more realistic hope.
I’m thankful for this series, regardless of the outcome…some fantastic basketball…and as Paul Pierce said, “the fans are getting their money’s worth…”
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Exactly why the little punk should be suspended.
Is it going to take Rondo really hurting someone with a cheap shot to get him punished?
If Brad Miller threw Rondo into the scorers’ table, he would be gone 10 or 20 games.
I think the intensity is getting to his young brain.
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by Granny Waiters on May 1, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't oversell it.
He didn’t “throw” Hinrich into the scorer’s table
I’ve watched it several times and have said Rondo deserves a fine…
Hinrich was back peddling into Rondo prior to Rondo using Hinrich’s own momentum against him and, in turn, Rondo spun Hinrich away in the direction of the scorer’s table.
It was Hinrich who immediately retaliated, shoving Rondo while screaming obscenities at anyone who’d listen, IMO trying to instigate a fight so that Rondo would be tossed.
The matchup is extremely chippy…we all should enjoy the game tomorrow night.
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Oh this is ripe.
Here I thought this guy was just parodying people. Apparently, he was just being a Celtics fan.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
The thing is, that's now the third cheap shot from Rondo,
all of which have been called very, very loosely in your favor. There’s no doubt as to who’s the dirty team: it’s the one that barks at players like dogs, hits other players in the groin, the face, and then slingshots them out of bounds – all for the indignity of being boxed out. The only “chippiness” in this series has been instigated by the Celtics.
Your team is the dirty one, Mcpu. Everybody in the league knows it. All this backtracking you fans do, editing videos…it’s sad. Let it go. Or, if you can’t accept that you root for a dirty team, stick to convincing yourselves. Though I doubt you’ll be any more successful at that than you are at convincing anybody outside Boston.
Enjoy your team as they are, dude. They’re not a reflection of you or your city. But they are dirty as hell, and this lame need justify their cheapshots is both weird a a little bit weak.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on May 1, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We could make it easy.
Count the number of stitches each team has had to have. Right.
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I am getting tired
of these Celtics fans saying the Bulls have been just as bad. Like the time Rose fish hooked Davis when he was going for a game tying layup and made him get seven stitches and a visit to the dentist. Or maybe when Ben Gordon grabbed Pierce and slung him into the NBA Cares sign then tried to throw an elbow at him. How about the time BG tripped Pierce and pushed him into the floor so he had to leave the game get stitches on his head. Right. The Bulls have been just as bad as the Celtics. Please.
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If you want a good laugh
read this. The one by Danno made me laugh out loud.
http://blogs.suntimes.com:80/sportsprose/2009/05/should_rajon_rondo_be_suspende.html
Funny find
if you look at the youtube vid on that site, you can see how false the boston view is. On that video, at the two second mark we see d. rose just getting his fingers on the rebound, and hinrich boxing out rondo (which is what he should do and let his teammate grab the rebound. Maybe it was an “aggressive” box out, but hinrich isnt grabbnig him or anything, he has his back to him, is low, and is banging into him (innuendos aside) pushing him further from the ball and the rebound (which from what ive been taught in terms of boxing out is WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO!!!)
At the 4 second mark, derrick rose has complete possesion is JUST STARTING his dribble (d.rose is by the way a very quick guy which is what makes the timing even more important) at that point, the 4 second mark you can see rondo begin to grab hinrich for the toss. Ill say part of the reason the toss began coming was due to inertia and hinrich momentum, but rondo is clearly grabbing hinrich (hinrichs left hand is down, while rondos hands are on hinrichs right arm)
6 second mark is when rondo begins to turn and the toss is starting 7.5 you can catch the actuall toss. The rest is clear on every footage….. hinrich hits the board, bounces back and goes at rondo….
from what i gather, most boston fans are saying that hinrich continued to box rondo out after the rebound had already happened….thats obviously false, the toss actually started when derrick rose did his first dribble after the rebound, and d. rose didnt hesitate or anything, he got possesion quickly and took off. I will give boston that hinrich probably did instigate it, he probably was using dirty tactics, but probably no more dirty than ray allen running around grabbing ben gordons shirt to keep up with him (which isnt to say ray allen is dirty, since that is a common move that SHOULD be a foul but is often overlooked, but its saying that hinrich boxout was at that same level of dirtiness and its something that is usually overlooked.) If rondo had just taken off towards his defense, he wouldve been a second or two late to his man, but not much more than that. The toss was completely aggression on rondos part.
If you look at other youtube vids of this you can see BETTER angles…i challenge any boston fans to actually show me the box out into the side line, or any other lame excuses they have been using.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Don't drown your sorrows...
…to hard this time tomorrow night as the Bulls’ season comes to a crashing halt.
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Don't blame David Stern and Derek Jeter when the Celtics lose
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on May 1, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
somone remind me again...
….why are you still here? Troll a bit much?
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Rondo is a clean player. Usually.
I dunno what these last two flagrants have been, but he has to stop, and the NBA brass has to consistently mete out punishment.
"Ben Gordon is a bundle of muscle and clutch. That's all he's made of. Drink BG7 energy drink, you'll grow a pair of balls on your balls."
FUCKING JOKE, MR. STERN!!!
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
Not the same without Rondo, however...
A good part of me doesn’t want to play Boston without Rondo — I highly doubt we win the trophy this year, and given expectations, it almost feels like this is our championship — we seem to have a bright future ahead; on the other hand playing in another (epic?) series is tantalizingly close…
I guess I’d rather focus on the great plays, the great drama, the great experience of this series, win or lose, because it’s been hugely entertaining; but I wonder if you looked at the Horry/Nash and Rondo/Hinrich incidents side by side — would it be clear why the league made its decisions?
The NBA needs a cooler name for it's championship. Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, World Series... NBA Finals. bleh.
I knew there was someone...
…that could make an intelligent post here on this site.
To your question, I’d say it’s about money and the economy and the marketability of this game 7 in particular with or without Rondo…
I only joined this blog today and get accused of ‘trolling’ (whatever the frigg that is)…I try to make nice posts and get hacked, so I make a post like above about not drowning your sorrows too much and get called a douche.
Good night y’all, enjoy the game tomorrow night…win or lose.
Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
Can I flag him?
It ain’t right for a Boston fan to use “y’all”.
"Worker bees can leave.
Even drones can fly away.
The Queen is their slave."
Technically it's not even correct.
Since y’all is singular – all y’all is plural. ;) This southern speak is tricky business.
(I am, of course, just kidding. Although “all y’all” is a very common form of plural “down here,” y’all is pretty common as well. Bad form to use either in writing, though – strictly a speaking thing.)
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
I think you mean "you-uns" for the plural. :)
Though “all y’all” can definitely work in a pinch.
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Maybe that's more deep south?
I don’t think I’ve heard “you-uns” much, if at all, in Oklahoma, at least where I live. I hear all y’all a lot – it used to drive me crazy because, as a Pacific Northwesterner, I always assumed y’all was plural to start with.
Now I’ve decided it’s got a certain charm to it. ;)
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Oklahoma is "west" more than south.
I was over there last year and the tone sounded southern but you didn’t have the southern lingo to go with it. At least not the Tennessee on down lingo. You guys are too cowboy I think.
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Yeah, I'd agree with that to an extent
I can’t think of Oklahoma as “west” really, because there’s so much more west. It’s too south to be midwest, but not south enough to be south and not southeast enough to be deep south. And when I think southwest that’s Arizona and New Mexico, and Oklahoma is too east for that. When I’m home visiting in Oregon people are always asking me how things are out east, and Oklahoma is clearly not east. Texas kind of stands on its own as a region, but we sure as hell don’t want to be lumped in with them!
Which is where one can quite logically draw the conclusion that I live in the middle of nowhere. ;)
(But I like Oklahoma on many levels, so no one else better insult it!)
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
I liked it in OKC and Tulsa at least
beside everyone’s habit of offering me a glass of ice tea with a cup (or two in one case) of ice on the side. What was I supposed to do with all that ice? You guys are a little ice happy over there.
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You know,
You try to play fake nice just like your dirty player – “Oh, I was trying for the ball, honest. Not my fault I’m a puny little guy and can only reach his face.” Right in line with “try to make nice.” Unless you are very careful with what you post and have a history of posting somewhere, you don’t go to an opposing team’s fan site and start posting about something controversial unless you’re looking to stir up trouble.
The vast majority of us knew Rondo would play tomorrow, regardless of what the call should be. But economics and ratings and such don’t make it right – neither the Brad Miller should-have-been-flagrant-1 nor the Kirk Hinrich should-have-been-flagrant-2. I don’t mind letting them play up to a point, but there’s a line where refusing to blow the whistle (or upgrade the foul as may be) interferes with the game as much as making the call does.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
The interesting thing is,
it mirrors the response of many Celtic fans to their team’s dirty play. Like you say: he wants to troll but he doesn’t have the balls. Just like all these folks, not being to accept the nationwide sentiment that the Celtics have (to this point) played the role of the villain.
Why not enjoy your team as they are, instead of pretending they’re something else? Or, if you’re such a sensitive guy that you can’t enjoy a dirty team, then call them out on it!
This half-assed behavior is just sooooo weak.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on May 2, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
How amazing is it that KG didn't run out on the floor?
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
Where Amazing Happens
Can someone please put together one of those “Where Amazing Happens” videos showing the thuggery of Rondo in this series, with captions like “Personal Foul,” “Flagrant 1”, “no ejection or suspension,” etc? Or if you’re feeling particularly creative, maybe a comparison “Where Amazing Happens” video showing the Robert Horry hip check with captions of “two games suspension” and then the suspensions for the guys leaving the bench, in contrast to Rondo beating the hell out of people and having no repercussions. That would be the shiz.
This truly is a league where amazing (ie: mind blowing buffoonery) happens.
This is so fucking hilarious
The hype surrounding this game is too much
I have never seen anything like this.
They could have made this game a PPV if they wanted to
Could this game already start please?!
Everything is in place for a total let down. How can it live up to the hype?
Games like this make me really nervous.
And yeah, the wait is killing me.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
It's fuckin insane
I mean if people watched the last game against Toronto, maybe the hype wouldn’t be as crazy?
No way it lives up to the expectations
The wait is insane
As a third Party Fan:
Selfishly speaking, I am glad Rondo didn’t get thrown out of Game 7. I think the Bulls would crush the Celtics if Eddie House was the starting PG for Boston. This has potential for all time great status.
My sense of fairness says Rondo deserved to be suspended. Because of the Brad Miller fishhook in game 5, combined with the elbow thrown with malice aforethought at a player. In my book, elbow is pretty much the same thing as a punch.
Could Rondo have thrown a punch in the situation and not been suspended?
Oh, and thanks a bunch NBA
for making the first round of playoffs a best of seven series! Can you imagine if that foul against Miller had been the end of the season for the Bulls?
the thing is
i’d love for the bulls to win fair and square with rondo on the court. the problem is, HE was the one who didn’t play fair to begin with, so his suspension would be something he only did to himself. and he deserves it.
i saw something in the rulebook that said a thrown punch warrants the suspension, but says nothing about an elbow that is thrown but misses, even though from the picture it is clear he was going for the head which is an automatic toss and suspension.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Kirk should have just took one for the team and let it land.
Ah well. Not our fault we forgot to draft thespians for our basketball team.
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the ref was between them, though
would have been hard to land an elbow, given its range.
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