Tell Me About Del Harris, Bernie Bickerstaff and Bob Ociepka
by tyger1147 on Apr 24, 2009 9:20 AM CDT
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I hate Vinny Del Negro. I think this team had an incredible chance to hire a good coach that could develop the young players and build for the future. I was willing to forgive Del Negro on the X's and O's if he at least did that. While I will give him credit for at least playing the guys a lot of minutes (Thomas and Rose specifically), I really don't feel they've improved that much from the pre-season to now.
Bah, I don't want to continue on an anti-Del Negro rant.
I'd love for the Bulls to get a new coach. While I'd like for the Bulls to go outside the organization for a coach, I don't see it happening this summer. I'd think the most likely scenario is the firing of Del Negro 30 games into the season w/ one of assistants getting the interim tag. Another wasted year. ::sigh::
Or will it be? I'd like to read opinions, if anyone has any, on the different coaches that are assistants now that might be promoted to Head Coach once Del Negro is mercifully (for me) cut loose.* Here are their biographies:
What say you?
*I think I read somewhere that most assistants in the NBA are on one-year deals, but that may have been MLB or the NFL. Are these guys signed through next year? Will any of them be back? All of them? I guess that's another question.
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Del Harris is turning 72 this summer.
I can’t see him coaching this team.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Apr 24, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Del Harris is still a cancer IMO
"I want the pressure...I want it and I feed off of it. Whenever I get the ball in my hand, I calm down." Air Force One
by Belize on Apr 24, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bickerstaff would be ok..
He had a good stint with the sonics in the late 80’s. He may have just gotten lucky, but he got good production out of a team that was not expected to do much.
I would love to see the Bulls go after Tyrone Corbin hard in the offseason. If he were the coach laying in wait, I would be extatic. Doubt he leaves Utah for anything less than a head coaching gig though :(
by DRose01 on Apr 24, 2009 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tyger
I think Vinny’s here at least through next season….regardless if he’s perfect, which he ain’t. We’ve got him on contract for 2 more years….and he’s had success, whether we like it or not this year.
I think he’s a good manager—gets the team to play together well and even when we’ve hit the many pitfalls he’s kept us playing hard—but I also think he has a ways to go to solve all the X’s and O’s.
I wish we had more time with Tyrus’s extension coming on, and Rose being so young….because I do think down the line Vinny will be a solid coach.
But it’s ridiculous with the young talent with big upsides we have to have a rookie learning on the job…..
Oh well. I’m forever conflicted.
I do think Harris (the offensive coach) has done much better than Bickerstaff this year in terms of assistant coaching from what I see….I mean yesterday was a mess, but our offense has been much ebtter than it was in years past and has improved—more than folks on BaB want to think….but I agree he’s too old to be a head coach.
Bickerstaff too….I thought our Defense was atrocious forever….and while we’ve finally shown Rose some tactics, it’s taken forever to do so, and hell VDN might be doing some of that hear having played under Pop like he did….
I think again ideally we’d have JVG as our coach now that the to me perfect for our talent D’Antoni deal was Reinsdorfed….
But seeing as neither of those are going to happen….and with the 2010 year coming up. I think Vinny will get at least all of next year before a decision is made.
So I’m just learning to live with it and focus on the positives from Vinny…..and much as the mistakes are often glaring, there have been positives. This team has continued to play hard through every last one of these incredibly frustrating blunders/blowouts or losing streaks….and that’s a big testament to the coach. This team was a complete mess last year, and that hasn’t been the case at all this year….at least we’re being talked about mroe for on the court than off the court stuff…..and the integration of teh team with the late season trade that was a hefty trade with a lot of new minutes….and Luol’s injury, we’ve done fairly well….
I hope now we can regroup and play our game on Sunday.
Ok so Vinny seems to have the X's down.....now he needs to learn the O's.
by majoyenrac on Apr 24, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
VDN has had
either Rose or BG as a security blanket all season long and into the playoffs. When he’s without one next season, we’ll then see how successful he’ll be.
If Ben is gone next season, I personally think that Vinny will fall on his face and look like the bumbling, stumbling idiot of coach that he really is.
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by NormVanBeer on Apr 24, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All coaches though
Get a security blanket when they’re good…..and many when they don’t have that security blanket fail.
I mean all (or most) of the good coaches tend to have superstar players….that’s just how it goes.
Fact is Vinny’s had more than those security blankets this year….he’s also had (Kirk injury, Luol injury, Hughes distraction, Noc playing hurt, Gooden injury, unbalanced roster with 5 guards and 1 big who came prepared to play to start the year (Gooden) and 2 bigs who were either in the “look what I worked on last summer, let me use it whenever, see” Tyrus Thomas early this year, or in the “Man, that reefer hurt my lungs” Noah early this year…..mold.
Add in the fact that he had the hurdle too of getting us past the I hate this franchise b.s. that ocurred under Boylan, and building a team….
He’s had a lot of hurdles….and true he’s had 2 security blankets, but he’s had a lot of hurdles too.
Add in that many were probably pissed that Deng was playing awful and being hurt while making the most money and not hearing anything negative about it……while Noah and Tyrus you could tell worked on their skills and were at least trying….
Add in that we didn’t ahve another body when _rew went dwon before Noah was in shape and had to see a LOT of Aaron Gray…..
He’s overcame a lot on the mgmt end…..
Now if he could just learn to coach the game…..I do think the basics though he knows well and has improved….but I rarely see him pull it all together. It seems quite often just someone being unbelievable (Rose, BG, and for a time there Salmons) has really helped the others get into an offense later….
Ok so Vinny seems to have the X's down.....now he needs to learn the O's.
by majoyenrac on Apr 24, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed..
to say that vinny has a security blanket is to infer that all coaches (phil, red auerbach, etc) have had to rely on security blankets, and if that’s the case, then what is the need for coaches at all. just send them out there on their own… vinny is not perfect. at all, but he has a few good players. not security blankets.
The Future is Unwritten
by paxcore5 on Apr 25, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone that's worked a long time for Jackson or Popovich
The crew we have now are all cut from the same cloth
by hlac on Apr 24, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good, because he just had a stroke only a few weeks after saying he was finally going to retire.
I hope he recovers and can retire in peace.
by Unrealcity on Apr 26, 2009 6:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
even the good points on Vinny seem like either accidents or his hand was forced. Like playing Tyrus we had a bunch of injuries when he decided to play our best players.
Then you got Pax telling him to play Rose in the 4th indirectly. Its pretty sad.
If we can fire Vinny before the all star break. I’d like our chances getting a top 4 seed depending on the coach.
by Camry on Apr 24, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's insight like this that keeps me coming back to Blogabull.com
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Apr 25, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignore it...
and talk nonsense about Del Negro’s replacement ad infinitum. Until there is a relevant topic, some actual occurrence in reality; why split hairs of replacements for an imaginary opening.
I am sure that is exactly what the Bulls need to and will do, though; fire the coach after the playoffs, when the players like him—which was the purpose of the hiring—and pay him while giving some assistant coach another salary, only for a big name to be gotten when another big name player is gotten in 2010.
Justifying your own inanity makes it no less inane.
by McCabe on Apr 26, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
So Del Negro will be here indefinitely?
Talk about reality check. Gosh, you’re a smart feller. Did you get a gold star today?
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Apr 26, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he'll be here indefinitely
He won’t be here forever, but I don’t think there’s a solid timeline for his termination……and therefore his being replaced is indefinite.
Reading comprehension rules Tyger…
Ok so Vinny seems to have the X's down.....now he needs to learn the O's.
by majoyenrac on Apr 26, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right on McCabe
Rec to that.
Ok so Vinny seems to have the X's down.....now he needs to learn the O's.
by majoyenrac on Apr 26, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll tell you about them...
they’re terrible and they’ve been a huge disappointment to the entire organization this year. They have not only not helped VDN, but they’ve impeded his growth. (Now we can debate whether a rookie coach should even be coaching in the NBA- I personally think it’s a joke to put someone with no sideline experience in charge of a team. But, given the fact that he’s in the position, the best thing that can happen is that he grows into a great coach.) If they’re not ALL gone next year, Bernie and Del are at least. Oh, and Del Harris- the staunch republican from Texas- is highly disliked by most.
And the players really like playing for VDN so I would bet he’ll be back next year, with some new assistants who are younger, energetic, specialize in D, and actually work and pull their weight in practice and game prep.
by smash! on Apr 26, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow ... great analysis
smash, your comments were really refreshing too read…
man up!
by exult463 on Apr 30, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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