PLAYOFFS Game Two Open Thread Overflow3: Bulls at Boston Celtics
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When Ben Gordon happens
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
I would like to watch Tyrus Thoms play some more basketball tonight.
Buuuuuut… if they win.
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WHY VDN?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
you can tackle people now
and get a jump ball
jesus give miller a rest
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Bad heat check Gordon
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get something going to the basket
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Side Note:
Do not watch this from the Boston CSN! HOLY SHIT there commentars are horrible
Do you like fishsticks?
this is not over. we NEED TYRUS!!
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
PUT TYRUS THOMAS IN THE FUCKING GAME!!!!
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take him out dammit
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I'm sorry, Miller has not played well enough in this quarter to stay out there.
"We're gonna hire a motherf*cking coach with NO experience? Not as an NBA head coach, not as an NBA assistant, not as an assistant’s assistant, not as a college coach, not as a high school coach, not as f*cking grade school coach, not as a coach of the Lovabulls, not as a coach of the towel boys, not even as a coach of a dynasty on Playstation. Nothing. Really? Really, Pax?" - 1958ChiTown's Initial Reaction to the Hiring of Vinny Del Negro, posted on June 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM.
Del Negro believes in the "hot hand/what got us there" theory.
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PUT TYRUS THOMAS IN THE FUCKING GAME!!!!
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OMG i was already jumping for Rose's block...
GET MILLER OUT!!! FUCK VDN!!!!!
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
I'm seriously wating for these Bahstan facking announcahs to realize
TT should be in the game before VDN does…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
TT
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His TOs
are Marbury-like!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
rose almost blocked that
he closed so fast he looked like deion closing in on a WR
are you shitting me VDN
why is he in yet????
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Still no Thomas. Fuck Del Negro.
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lets go bulls! lets go bulls!
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
I like that story.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 20, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
TT
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Where will VDN blowup happen this year?
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
If BG continues to play this well, I have no doubt that
the Bulls management will fail to sign him.
Sigh.
"We're gonna hire a motherf*cking coach with NO experience? Not as an NBA head coach, not as an NBA assistant, not as an assistant’s assistant, not as a college coach, not as a high school coach, not as f*cking grade school coach, not as a coach of the Lovabulls, not as a coach of the towel boys, not even as a coach of a dynasty on Playstation. Nothing. Really? Really, Pax?" - 1958ChiTown's Initial Reaction to the Hiring of Vinny Del Negro, posted on June 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM.
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 20, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
good foul Noah
dont let the porkins dunk
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TT
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If you could
morph his head and Rondo’s together, you’d have, like, a regular human!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
goof foul noah!
he seems playoff ready
(except for that foul on pierce at end of regulation last game)
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
Hey Del Harris
you’re an assistant coach of the Chicago Bulls. You can see Brad Miller is fucking dead tired, how about mentioning something before tomorrow that Tyrus Thomas is sitting on your bench ready to jump around and block some fucking shots and rebound the motherfucking ball. For chrissakes please just for old times sake act like a coach!
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
miller needs to rotate on D
he is killing us
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 20, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions
Stacy... that was not a clean block by Noah
I’m all for rooting for the home team, but come on
Big Baby has had a good game. He's so up and down it's not even funny.
I hate that guy.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions
That did not look good, Joakim.
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dunk that! wide open!!!
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
That did not look good.
I hope he doesn’t poop his pants. Not fun.
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TT
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
fuck you vinny
draw something good
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TT
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TT
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
TT
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
TT
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
TT
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
k, i know you want TT in tyger, but please stop :)
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rondo big shot
damn, noah has got to finish that
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 20, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions
what a great, great series...
please BG, don’t force up an impossible shot after 5 seconds…
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
TT?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, Vinny saved a TO till almost the last minute of the game...
That’s it though, I think
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
leave him in boston after tonight's game?
it is his hometown…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
40!!!!!!
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
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oh my god BG
get a stop
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hahahaha "Michael Gordon"
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
BEN FRICKIN GORDON
he might make up for all VDN’s mistakes
FUCKING REBOUND FUCK
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TT
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
FUCK OUR REBOUNDING INEPTITUDE
"Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them."
Thanks again VDN for the no timeouts left with 20 seconds to go!
And Boston has two…
ray allen being ray allen
and a VDN timeout…
Game Over?
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
Vinny is singlehandedly costing the Bulls this game
Miller can’t jump at all right now. Why is anyone surprised that the Bulls are getting killed on the boards?
Why resort to name calling?
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because I wish to insult you personally
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Out of timeouts
thank you Vinny, you fucking idiot.
i opt for a rose drive
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
42!
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because I wish to insult you personally
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amazing this short guy
Derrick Rose: Point GOD
by Juan dela Cruz on Apr 20, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Gordon is unreal!
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K need a stop here
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha
this guy is stupidly HOT!
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
I'm laughing w/ hysteria.
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O my freakin gawd.
"Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them."
Bulls lose the game on the boards and TT doesn't play one second
in the fourth quarter.
It’s unreal.
Another game put in joepardy by our own stupidity.
"We're gonna hire a motherf*cking coach with NO experience? Not as an NBA head coach, not as an NBA assistant, not as an assistant’s assistant, not as a college coach, not as a high school coach, not as f*cking grade school coach, not as a coach of the Lovabulls, not as a coach of the towel boys, not even as a coach of a dynasty on Playstation. Nothing. Really? Really, Pax?" - 1958ChiTown's Initial Reaction to the Hiring of Vinny Del Negro, posted on June 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM.
21 more points and you match Jordan's birthday record Ben!
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
no kidding
VDN’s doing everything he can to screw us
Gordon may have been smart to take the one year deal
He’s earning himself a lot of money from someone tonight.
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because I wish to insult you personally
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TT
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 20, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
So most likely a loss or OT
Maybe they can get a steal or force a TO, but gotta think Boston holds for a final shot.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Defense subs now
no more fuckin miller please
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Miller was open on that play too
He probably would have missed the 12 footer
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 20, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
TT in for the final block!
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
Refs will award Boston game on any contact.
"We're gonna hire a motherf*cking coach with NO experience? Not as an NBA head coach, not as an NBA assistant, not as an assistant’s assistant, not as a college coach, not as a high school coach, not as f*cking grade school coach, not as a coach of the Lovabulls, not as a coach of the towel boys, not even as a coach of a dynasty on Playstation. Nothing. Really? Really, Pax?" - 1958ChiTown's Initial Reaction to the Hiring of Vinny Del Negro, posted on June 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM.
Or any semblance of contact.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
QUESTION: Gordon probably isn't worth more than 3 or 4 wins in total.
But considering all of the Del Negro ineptitude the Bulls have to overcome, and how clutch Gordon is, maybe it’s like 6 or 7.
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so pierce has 2 free throws, right? no matter what happens
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
He's still on the team?
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because I wish to insult you personally
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rose with a "dwade" steal and runner three at the buzzer.... i'm in!
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
Thomas in for Gordon.
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WOW!
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fuck you vinny
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Vinny cost the Bulls this game
Why resort to name calling?
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because I wish to insult you personally
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Tip your cap to the Celtics, the Bulls had that defended properly.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions
Noah could've blocked it.
Was the Pierce foul in the back of his mind?
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ray allen is cold blooded too....
FUCK YOU VINNY DEL NEGRO!!!!!! GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!
DRose is gonna carry us into the playoffs and take it to another level from there...
coach of the year!
ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE!!!!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions
Well, if it takes that to win a game in Boston...
…what happens in Chicago?
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Yeah, but imagine us up 2-0 right now.
I don’t even care if we won. If we have the time out and we get a shot for BG or at least Salmons or Kirk or even Tim Thomas and we miss, so be it. But for Vinny to do this again for NO REASON AT ALL EXCEPT THAT HE FREAKS OUT AND CALLS TOs EVERY TIME IT IS CLOSE AND THE OTHER TEAM MAKES A SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, that’s just inconceivaBULL! (And even though I just made3 a really bad Bulls joke, I’m not laughing, I’m pissed at VDN!)
Has a coach ever been fired in the middle of a playoff series?
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because I wish to insult you personally
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Perfect
No timeouts left.
Fuck you Vinny, you’ll never be forgiven for this.
Give props where props is due...
hit a big shot with the big guy’s hand in his face.
"Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them."
Apparently rebounding is important
who knew?
yeah rebounding was the story
they got tons of 2nd chance points. It killed us.
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 20, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
The second chance points
Will do it to you every time. It’s frustrating and demoralizing when the offense keeps getting rebounds.
Oh well, like a lot of you have said, Chicago has home court now, so it should be okay for you all.
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 20, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
....
turnovers killed us, offensive rebounds, and the refs and we still should have won
by joetheplumber on Apr 20, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Fuck Vinny! That TO he took just before the end of the first half would have been nice to have
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Ronald Reagan
Uh,
I don’t believe that first half fouls carry over to the second, do they?
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
We probably lost the series tonight because we got killed on the boards.
And we got killed on the boards in the fourth quarter in part because Tyrus Thomas was on the bench.
"We're gonna hire a motherf*cking coach with NO experience? Not as an NBA head coach, not as an NBA assistant, not as an assistant’s assistant, not as a college coach, not as a high school coach, not as f*cking grade school coach, not as a coach of the Lovabulls, not as a coach of the towel boys, not even as a coach of a dynasty on Playstation. Nothing. Really? Really, Pax?" - 1958ChiTown's Initial Reaction to the Hiring of Vinny Del Negro, posted on June 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM.
yup.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Ty only had 4 for the game
I would have liked him out there, too, but it’s not like he was holding up the rebounding numbers or anything.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
but he could likely put one foot in front of the other
I’m not sure Miller could even do that after getting run into the ground.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I said I thought he should be out there.
But you can’t blame the rebounding issues on Ty not being out there. Say the threat of a block, or fresh legs, absolutely.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
No, but Brad Miller certainly wasn't doing anything to help at the end.
Except for the one great pass to Hinrich on the wing.
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its not like Miller could even JUMP during the last 5 minutes of this game
And Miller did have that VERY COSTLY turnover from being just too damn tired and slow.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Miller had a decent game, but there's no fucking way he should have been playing over TT
in the last few minutes….WE’VE GOT FUCKING BEN GORDON ON A HOT STREAK FOR JUMPERS AND 3 POINTERS. WE DON’T NEED MILLER’s jump shots anymore.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
"Jumping"
is not the most important attribute for rebounding in an NBA playoff game in the Champs house.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
What about exhaustion? Like with turnovers?
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
touché?
I would play TT at the end (or at least some significant time in the 4th!). But if you need rebounds again Boston in their building, it’s not all about the jumping. That’s all.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
And TT can somewhat better protect the rim...He had 6 BLOCKS this game...the type of guy
you want in after you’ve got a goddamn 5 point lead with just 3 minutes left.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just convinced maybe everyone was too hard on Vinny
I was just being stupid. He’s terrible. No timeouts again. Brad Miller looking tired as fuck and no Thomas. I honestly feel I would do a better job being in charge of timeouts and substitutions.
dont sell yourself short
include every other aspect of coaching as well.
by smelltherosegordon on Apr 20, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wow, major bummer
Always hate to lose, but I’m still pretty psyched about the series. Boston needed a last second shot to get the win – as the favorite and on their home court. Can’t wait to see what the game looks like in Chicago.
Great, beyond spectacular shooting game for BG.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Ughhhhhhhhhhhh
Good game …but … oh my god.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
never really should've been this close
Gordon was so spectacular it was just keeping Vinny at bay. But he’s too good at sabotage.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll never underestimate Del Coacho again. Or is that overestimate? Whatever, he sucks
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
i agree.
i’ve come to the painful realization that our players have had to play OUT OF THEIR SKULLS
Dummy Del Negro
No Timeouts
Subs out Gordon
Doesn’t Play Tyrus much in the 4th Quarter
Can’t find anyone to rebound
I can see why he got those Coach of the Year votes…
There are no words to describe
how angry I am with Vinny right now.
by halnat on Apr 20, 2009 8:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
this was not a game the Bulls barely lost
it was a game they were going to lose by 10 if Gordon didn’t go banannas.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:53 PM CDT reply actions
You could say the same thing about Ray Allen
Don’t be that negative. Vinny fucked us, yet again.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Allen hit shots off of actual offense
Gordon was just unconscious at anything he threw up. The important thing to remember is that it involved no coaching :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
you make an excellent point!
Still i imagine someone said the same thing about MJ and others who did/do similiar single handed scoring outburst the can cause the will of the other team to be shattered.
Don’t get me wrong… I’m only comparing BG performance tonight with a similiar Jordan explosion.. nothing more..
man up!
brad doesn't suck...
If used for stretches, NOT THROUGH THE WHOLE GAME!!
This sucks. How am i gonna be able to concentrate on work now.
so this is what the thread would have looked like
if Pierce hit that last free throw on Saturday
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VDN lost the game for us...
…man, we should have won this one…
by bullsfaninbigapple on Apr 20, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions
I WISH I WAS AT THAT PRESS CONFRENCE
VINNY Y WASNT TT IN WHEN WE WERE UP 5 ANDNEEDED DEFENSE!!!!!!
FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK
FIRE VDN
"but Brad Miller's FTs came through late in the game"
-Vinny
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
There wouldn't even be a "but". Del Negro does not question himself.
He doesn’t not defend himself. He only asserts. He is great. He is in fallible.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
*Infollicle
Do not question the Hair.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
by Prevenge on Apr 20, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no excuses.
that’s what lou holtz told me.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
You must have been soaked by the time Holtz got the word "excuses" out of his mouth
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Allen hits a big shot, VDN kept tyrus out subbed him in with no time left
wasted Bg performance, momentum on the side of boston. WOW
Derrick Rose: Point GOD
there is no momentum
so don’t worry about that. Even if there was, it’d be gone by friggin Thursday.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
no there really isn't
Boston’s better, that’s their mo’
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
after seeing them today
…i’d say we’re evenly matched
by bullsfaninbigapple on Apr 20, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
well, either way
if they’re better they’ll win. It has nothing to do with momentum. The Bulls could get waxed at home and I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
We have been playing out of our minds. If we keep it up, awesome.
But I could see how we go cold shooting and end up getting blown out. I hope not, but I could see it happening.
i agree
momentum is overrated. If the Bulls lock down the defensive boards they will win this series.
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 20, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the game right there.
Yeah, it’s frustrating that Tyrus isn’t out there, but let’s be clear on this – T2 hasn’t been rebounding for shit. Six, then four rebounds in a playoff game is just awful out of your power forward. Noah too – he was manhandled tonight. They’re just weren’t strong enough, and we weren’t getting out in transition to use their speed and quickness to offset what they lack in bulk.
We lost the game because of second chance points. The good news is, it’s correctable. Everybody – Derrick, BG, John Salmons – has to crash the defensive glass like madmen. That’s the only way we can offset our lack of size down low.
You can’t run if you can’t rebound. And if we can’t run, we ain’t gonna win this series.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
it's not correctable
just by trying harder. they haven’t been a great defensive rebounding team all year so I don’t expect it to suddenly change
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
well all he did was turn it over
funny I don’t remember tyrus being that be in OT
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
i shouldnt have said dickhead
but still go away. this is a place for bulls fans to commiserate, not to be rational
I don't remember seeing it happen,
and definitely not on every single offensive rebound.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
Only a matter of time before a Bostonian came here, I guess
Let’s talk about how awesome Papelbon is and the similarities between Tom Brady and God.
by NittanyCub on Apr 20, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you cruise other team's boards after a tough loss?
Regardless of how ostensibly courteous you are, that’s meant to antagonize. Why not just celebrate with Boston fans instead?
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
wow
what a battle of the uconn boys tonight
unbelievable guys…wow
no reason to be down, your guys played amazing
by TheAncientRivalry on Apr 20, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions
Vinny, you suck!!
Vinny, you don’t know how to manage timeouts and you didn’t play Tyrus Thomas at the end of the game despite the fact that he proved himself in game 1.
By the way, we better pay Ben Gordon whatever the hell he wants.
Hell, TT proved himself in THIS GAME
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. Did the retard take out one of his best rebounders JUST BECAUSE the Bulls kept
not being able to rebound Tyrus’s blocks? WTF is the logic in that when you have a lead and Miller’s on life support.
And not just on any life support.
But on CRYOGENIC LIFE SUPPORT.
FUCK YOU VINNY.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I was screaming for TT over Brad too when Brad kept falling over and losing the ball.
But Brad had 9 rebounds and TT had 4. Brad was +19 in plus/minus and TT was -21. I’m not saying that TT shouldn’t have been in there, he should have. But he wasn’t exactly stopping the Celts from getting 2 or 3 extra shots on every possession.
The Bulls should get a physical day off tomorrow.
Just come in for some film for a couple of hours and work out the kinks, get treatment, and come to practice on Wednesday.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Well, too bad,
because we’re going to have a party! Who wants ice cream?
-VDN
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
by Prevenge on Apr 20, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you know
i knew VDN would cost us a game but i didnt think it would be this bad. This one hurts
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Pierce could've easily beat us saturday
so were lucky we won last game
by LoveForTheGame on Apr 20, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
this one hurts because playoffs wins are rare
especially against the defending champs
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Oh, I think he can cost us more than one game
I’m fully prepared for him to continue making the same mistakes. He learns nothing from his mistakes.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
Still a better coach than Vinny the Ninny.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Apr 20, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
whatever happens...
I’m proud of this team for coming into hostile territory against the defending champions, and giving them all they can handle. For coming within a hair of making this 2-0, I salute them. I’m still SEEING RED!
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"within a hair"
well played.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm proud of this team for overcoming the dumbest coach in the league
Most players would have given up long ago in the face of their coach’s incompetence.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
we still broke their homecourt
we play poor on the road and great at home. There’s no reason we don’t blow this team out at home with better rebounding. BY THE WAY WHAT A SHITTY CALL ON LINTON JOHNSON AT THE END OF THE 1ST HALF COST US THE GAME.
huh?
next it’ll be some random free throw BG missed.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it can't be a random miss, because he only missed one....
You could blame it on a random Brad Miller TO, though, since he had more than one. And more than everyone else on the team. In fact, twice as many as Ty and Joakim together.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
What about the Salmons 3 they waved off?
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Apr 20, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just being a smart-ass, obviously.
There were plenty of individual plays/calls that could have made a difference of a few points, but you get those in every close loss. While it’s highly irritating when refs screw things up and it hurts the team, the Bulls had ample opportunity to overcome them, which is easily seen in the fact that the Bulls were up late in the game in spite of that 3 and the continuation they gave PP at the end of the half.
I find those incredibly irritating at the moment, but overall the two things that stick coming out of the game are the fact that Vinny did not save a TO yet again and the team was horrible on the boards.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
The only good news I can muster is that luck played a big role in their win today.
A lot of their second chance opportunities were just straight up lucky. Add to that Rose’s 2 early fouls that kept him from getting into rhythm.
Next game will be a good one. Those of you lucky enough to be there better let the Celts have it.
I agree with that.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
*after this game
Derrick Rose: Point GOD
by Juan dela Cruz on Apr 20, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyrus knows he's playing for a dumbass.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
At that rate Reggie Miller's prediction would come true
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
yeah that's the key
each one seemed to lead to points
WADE 2010
by Orange Juice on Apr 20, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
seemed like more.
lots of stumblin’ in the lane.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he "fell/dropped/passed" a couple that went right to teammates.
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i think a couple of em went to rose
but were really millers fault
The scorekeepers were kind if he was only charged 4 TOs. He stumbled a few times in the lane
and had several passes that he floated and were stolen away by the Celtics.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what happens when VDN leaves Miller out too long and he gets tired.
lots of stumblin’ in the lane.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Apr 20, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Reality
We are still the team we have always been and VDN is still our coach. But on top of that the Celtics are not what they’ve always been. Both games at their home court being close and Rose with foul trouble in the first half we still have a good chance of moving on. Remember our home court has helped us this season.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Another Burned Timeout?
Does VDN not understand how important timeouts are down the stretch? Come on, man.
Vinny needed to use the timeout
to tell Rose to pass the ball to Ben Gordon.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
I said, "Can't VDN just yeah "7, 7" from the edge of the court!?! Does he have to call a TO to say -
“Hey guys, I know I don’t actually have any plays, but get the ball to BG again and let him do whatever the hell he wants playing 1 on 5 since everyone knows he’s getting the ball and I don’t have a play to get him actually open.”
Whoever voted for Vinny for Coach of the Year should be waterboarded
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
by Big D on Apr 20, 2009 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
The BUlls are
a PP missed FT from being down 0-2
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Uh, okay
The Celtics are 2 FG’s away from being down 0-2
by NittanyCub on Apr 20, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
or a coach from being 82-0
(approx.)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Boston is playing pretty bad
the Bulls are matching them. yay?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
oh come on
these were 2 well played games. You hate VDN, we get it. But the Bulls have been playing pretty well in 2 relatively well played playoff games.
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 20, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
they're playing well because they have a ton of talent
that part is great.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
credit Paxson, he's nearly coach proofed this team. Vinny is still finding ways to mess up, though.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
problem being
he hired the coach.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
only after the 'Dorfer cut his legs out from under him.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
JR should have told Pax straight up at the start of his coaching
search not to interview anyone who would demand more than $2M/year for 2 years guaranteed. :(
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Apr 20, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, we don't know that he had a choice.
And at the very least, it wasn’t who he wanted (again thwarted by JR).
yfBB hates VDN?
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HE RAN OUT OF TIMEOUTS 2 PLAYOFF GAMES IN A ROW
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they are a couple of defensive rebounds away from being up 2-0
what’s your point, its 1-1
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 20, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
indeed that's another way to look at it.
whoever thought they’d win this series just because of game one was delusional.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
As I said, 1 more win this series and I'm "satisfied'.
Two more and I’m happy.
Three more and the series win and obviously, I’m ecstatic.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
i wouldve said that before this game
but to blow such a good performance because a) their bigs got away with murder and b) our coach is a fucking jackass really, really hurts
by Calogero on Apr 20, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's how I feel
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll agree with that.
But the day-after, I try to take emotion out of it, and I hope that’s how I think.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
how could you be "satisfied" if we win one more this series
The next two are at home and the celtics aren’t playing great at all, espcially Pierce. The Bulls have a good chance at taking this series after getting one of the road games.
by LoveForTheGame on Apr 20, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
luckily I have so many biases
I don’t know who you’re talking about.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
huh?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Ooooh, because Miller was your white whale, so you're married to him...
…and it’s his fault (I guess) they lost the game, so that’s what he’s saying.
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is not!
It’s VIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYY!
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by marionette on Apr 20, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow ok so when Brad Miller gets the ball whats your first thought?
because mine is get the fucking ball out of brad miller’s hands.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
If Miller isn't tired as a corpse it's 'Yay, we're gong to score!'
If he’s that tired it’s “Oh shit, the Celtics are about to score off a turnover”
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
But VDN is STILL THE PROBLEM HERE!
He should be playing TT, not Brad when he was obviously gassed and kept turning the ball over!
apology accepted.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude
We wouldn’t even be in this game if it were not for BM this game.
We outscored Boston by 19 when he was in the game and HE is who hurt us??
hey, just because you wrote it out longform
doesn’t mean you didn’t just use +/- when told not to.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahahahahaha
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the people have spoken
+/- stinks and so does Andres Nocioni.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
We outscored Boston by 19 because Ben Gordon is fucking awesome.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
goddamn I think I should just write a recap pretending they won
so I can just make blog post love to Ben Gordon instead of remembering we have a dud coach.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
you either didn't watch the game or you're just fuckin' dumb.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Both
you may have thought you were watching the game, but if you think that the reason we should have won this game is NOT because “Ben Gordon is fucking awesome”, you didn’t.
And if, looking at the box score [and perhaps highlights, though it’s a bit early for that] you did not come to the conclusion that Ben Gordon was fucking awesome this game, you are dumb.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
by Prevenge on Apr 20, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ben Gordon would have missed all of those shots if Thomas were out there.
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*mocking Bass
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
we lost because Brand Miller can't control the ball when it's in his hands.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
He was good at first, but then he was tired and VDN played him too long.
TT should not have 20 minutes and Brad Miller 30. It should be the other way around at least if not more for TT.
At least the Bulls will not be embarrased, they way they were in the first three games
against gangrene the celtics.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Apr 20, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
what was up with the call at the end of the half. That foul to give play is never a foul no matter who it is
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
that happened against the Bulls before
Violet Palmer gave Gilbert Arenas 3 shots attempting a shot from the other free-throw line.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah considering final margin
that bs call really screwed us
WADE 2010
by Orange Juice on Apr 20, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
What a wasted game, we couldve been up 2-0, instead its down to a best of 5. Fuck vdn
Derrick Rose: Point GOD
Man can other guys rebound
When BG is being ridiculous. Seems like we always give up a ton of 2nd chance points when he does.
I'd say poor Ben
but after that performance he certainly won’t have that feeling anytime soon…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
yeah, he let it all out this game
Derrick Rose: Point GOD
by Juan dela Cruz on Apr 20, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyrus: -21 Miller: +19
Tyrus with the worst +/-
Miller with the best.
lol, really?
Then Ben should at least be on the positive side, no?
We shall see when the gameflow comes out.
Tyrus is a bust! I'm so glad we have a veteran presense like Miller for crunch time!
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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought i was being sarcastic enough O_o
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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we please place a moratorium on +/-?
Please?
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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 20, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't posting it to say VDN did the right thing.
There are good stats and bad stats, but they all tell you SOMETHING if taken in the right context. I think there’s something worthwhile to be garnered from +/- numbers
See, BAB-Bass?
This is what happens when you keep posting these goddamn +/- stats for one game. It spreads like a disease, like the black plague
You know, I keep thinking there has to be something wrong with their math
Brad played 36 minutes, which would mean he was out there for every good Bulls run and managed to miss the Celts’ runs (really just not starting), as the team would be -16 without him – yet no one else on the team is higher than +2.
Can’t wait for the game flow to be up tomorrow morning to see how this worked out.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Yap, Noone else is close.
Linton Johnson with a plus 2, kurt with +1. BG is -1…( ;) That one was for you , Matt)
isn't there a stat
where when bg shoots ridiculous, the record isn’t so great? or was that last season?
it's likely imaginary.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You should go figure it out for the past fie years.
Make up an arbitrary scoring limit, and then get what the W/L is… and then make a fan post out of it.
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are the next 2 games at home?
..or is it 3?
by bullsfaninbigapple on Apr 20, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions
2
it goes 2-2-1-1-1 until the finals, which are 2-3-2
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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
if that format is fixed
..what does it mean when they say boston has lost home court advantage. does that mean they don’t get game 7 at home?
by bullsfaninbigapple on Apr 20, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
that just means if the bulls win all their UC games they're winners of the series.
by smelltherosegordon on Apr 20, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
oh right, the crazy home court advantage
oops shit we just lost by 20 to the Raptors there.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you would have thought we were the champs the way Boston acts.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
yea i know
I hate what KG does with his face and lips sticking them out
by Looney_Bucky on Apr 20, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont think were gonna see too many closeups of KG anymore tho
i counted about 29 f bombs out of his mouth tonight
it is TNT and not ESPN though
nothing says the drama of the NBA playoffs like players hollering obscenities
He got
DOG man!
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This was the most excited I have been as Bulls fan since 98
If we had won this game, this series would have been in the bag. From how we started the season to being able to beat the defending champs who some though would break the Bulls 72-10 record would be incredible. It is still very much possible. But man what a wasted opportunity.
ill agree with the most excited part
but even up 2-0 this wouldve been far from in the bag. remember whos coaching this team
I remember NEVER having to worry about the freaking coach when we had PHIL JACKSON.
We were spoiled, and VDN is that frozen lake pond in the final circle of hell.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
36 min? really?
my god
must check box score to reconfirm
wow
WADE 2010
by Orange Juice on Apr 20, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
35:30
[head pounding on desk]
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like imagine (when he was out of shape 1st half of the year) if VDN had put an out of shape
Noah in a playoff game playing 36 minutes? Why fucking why? You know he’s not in shape for it.
Now, Miller….yes, he had a great 1st half
….but anything over 28-30 minutes is goddamn SACRILEGE.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm more than happy with Davis shooting the mid-range J
I’m not happy with his fat ass devouring a god damn ball off the Bulls’ boards like it’s a burger he’s been thinking about all game.
I agree
shoot fatty shoot
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that could be one of the unclassiest (and funniest) things a Chicago crowd could
chant the next game when Davis touches the ball. Just to remind Vinny that we want Big Baby shooting INSTEAD OF RAY ALLEN.
SHOOT FATTY SHOOT !
SHOOT FATTY SHOOT !
SHOOT FATTY SHOOT !
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree, too.
When the refs let the game get physical down low (and I know, playoffs, blah blah blah, but it was especially rough), the Bulls will get dominated down low. I don’t know if that happens again.
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i'll let him have those
but come on rebounds
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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
quit blaming it on the coach...we lost the game because we couldn't rebound...they outhustled us
the team was content with splitting on the road
by aznsensation on Apr 20, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is that?
We did get out-rebounded badly. That SHOULD be easily fixed. They don’t even have simple fundamentals for bocking out. Like Noah walking towards the basket insteasd of backing out to block out Porkins. The rebound flies over the arms of Noah and straight to Pork. No push even.
Seriously.
For our next two days off we should only work on boxing out and rebounding. Giving up 21 offensive rebounds is ridiculous!
i dont blame them all that much for the rebounding
they were getting fouled. a lot of that will (hopefully) get called in the UC
No. Vinny hate.
Is even dumber. If rebounds caused loss. How would Tyrus have helped?
Personally I would have pulled Brad.
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Was Brad?
I don’t worry the stats so much, just watch the game. All Celts were able to push all Bulls under the basket. Like they were Duncan (or Garnett?).
My point is that, although I would’ve played TT too, I completely disagree that he would’ve helped with what “cost” the game.
Now I have to check the box, damn!
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you don't think they played hard tonight?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
no we played hard...but they played harder...they went after all the rebounds
by aznsensation on Apr 20, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
they pushed and shoved their way to the rebounds
usually called fouls. tonight they werent for some reason
They had a lot of uncalled fouls on the rebounding.
And got some lucky.
And a lot were blocks that went back to the Celtics.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
And the blocks thing, yeah, it'd be better if Thomas blocked it to his teammates...
…but it still means that no shot was taken, except Boston gets a rebound.
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if Big Baby stops making jumpshots and the Bulls actually gather some of those blocked shots
they’d be in bidness.
But the counter is that Pierce is probably going to wake up at some point this series. Kudos to Fish for keeping him under wraps thus far. Non-kudos to Fish for some really selfish play on the offensive end.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, a lot of their o-rebounds were just good positioning
Miller and Noah were getting shit on. If only the Bulls had someone who could jump high to grab these said defensive rebounds for them. Shit, if only there was someone like that on this team.
The Ray Allen over Brad Miller rebound/jump ball should have sort of been the sign?
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the Bulls are just not a good defensive rebounding team
I think they could’ve had a better chance if the corpse of Brad Miller wasn’t out there for the final minutes, but still…
Also, Luol Deng would’ve helped in that area. ::ducks morons flinging poo::
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
that actually is a good point i hadnt thought of
the drop off from deng to salmons as a rebounder at the 3 is enormous
yeah with Deng we actually have a rebounding edge some nights
but Salmons just doesn’t hit the boards. We need 5 guys rebounding and we had 2 – Noah and Rose
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 20, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
celtics wouldn't stand a chance if we had deng
but we wouldn’t stand a chance if they had kg!
WADE 2010
by Orange Juice on Apr 20, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Deng (when healthy) has a lot more intangibles than Salmons, like team rebounding
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Deng when healthy would do about as good of job on Pierce defensively
as anyone else.
(Still holding out hope for Deng)
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Apr 20, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i totally agree
blaming the coach is IDIOTIC in this moment. why just not look at the bright sides of the past 2 games and learn from them? you guys who always blame the coach doesn’t even know what your talking about. i don’t like there offense and im really not into his timeouts and substitutions BUT c’mon, in the past 2 games they won one, and they lost in a close game. i know we want them to win but that’s how it goes..they win, we lose they lose, we win. stop stressing yourself and just support them. its the best thing that us fans can do right now. NOT DISCOURAGE THEM.
I hope they are
dear dudes:
You rule! Win on Thursday. Push Vinny off a bridge.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't even care about these
other comments..don’t get me wrong i don’t like Vinny but i wouldn’t make such unnecessary comments about him just because of this loss. its a waste of energy, it causes wrinkles and it gives you butt rashes..so why not stay positive.
you're on a sports blog
saying something is a waste?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
*saying anything
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
i dont know how anyone can stay positive after that loss
we just wasted a ridiculous performance from BG and a chance to put the defending champs in a huge hole.
do you have a time traveler?
because if you have, im with you with all of the bloggers out there..
DO NOT LET THEM SEE FRUSTRATION IN YOUR FACE
Vinny is that you?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It's America in the "new" millenium.
Prepare yourself for another ninety years of illogical (not exactly idiotic) blame placing.
And then the world will probably end.
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FIRE VDN, FIRE DEL STUPIDO, FIRE HIM NOW, FIRE THE MORON WHO FOR THE 2ND GAME IN A ROW LEAVES THE BILLS WITH NO TIMEOUTS.
fire him, fire him, fire him, fire him, fire him to the 49th power.
Brad Miller ran out of gas with about 5 minutes left. Tyrus was pulled right after getting his 6th block and hittting 2 J’s. fire this absolutely useless pile of soft dung NOW.
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Didn't Tyrus prove himself in OT last game with all those jumpers
The TNT guys were saying that Miller was in because he could shoot but Thomas is the better shooter.
by Looney_Bucky on Apr 20, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
tyrus was kind of cold tonight shooting
by aznsensation on Apr 20, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
he hit his last 2 jumpers
and then del coacho yanked him for the game
it's not even this one game with Miller playing all 4th
it’s that it’s been happening the whole final stretch of the season. And it always sucked, and it keeps happening.
The timeout thing is a relatively new wrinkle. Maybe Vinny is evolving as a coach!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:15 PM CDT reply actions
doug collins sounded so stunned
when he realized we had no timeouts left with 12 seconds to go. like “i cant believe my boy reinsdorf turned to this fucker when i turned him down”
heh I forgot that connection
I wonder if he and ’dorf are sharing a good cry right now.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe he left Miller out there.
Why did he sub him out in Game 1? Now I’m just confused.
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we're pushing our luck with hinrich on pierce
could’ve used deng =)
WADE 2010
by Orange Juice on Apr 20, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
ive actually been fine with VDN's hinrich usage
he’s been good on pierce in small chunks because he’s such a different type of defender than salmons, and VDN hasn’t played him too much. and i like the way hinrich has played in his limited minutes too. without deng we almost have to give hinrich a few minutes at the 3, and he’s been fine in those few mins there. the real problem, as been covered ad nauseam, is the brad miller experience
Celtics go small alot, so Hinrich at the 3 isn't that big of an issue
plus, Tim Thomas didn’t play :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't take Brad Miller any more Im going have an aneurism.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
we lost the chance to grab a 2-0 lead. sadness
Derrick Rose: Point GOD
by Juan dela Cruz on Apr 20, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Couple of coaching thoughts...
1. VDN is George Bush-like in his inability to learn from mistakes and introspect
2. What the fuck are these high priced , “experienced” assistant coaches doing? Sabotaging Vinny?
by bullsfaninbigapple on Apr 20, 2009 9:19 PM CDT reply actions
vdn is time out happy, like he has millions of it, like his hair.
Derrick Rose: Point GOD
by Juan dela Cruz on Apr 20, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
VDN: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED ! (Reinsdorf needs an excuse not to keep Gordon.)
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're going to the game ...
The crowd should start a chance “Fire Vinny” just like we did with Nocioni
yes lets do that
so then we can lose both playoff games
by aznlildelfin on Apr 20, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would we lose??
Tyrus Thomas would be even more motivated
by Looney_Bucky on Apr 20, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
NOO...chant TYRUS when TYRUS needs to be put in the game in the 4th quarter.
TYRUS.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
a little sugguestion might help our coach
also Shoot Fatty Shoot when Davis touches the ball.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
He should have played L. Johnson more!
His per 48 must have been monster this game (the rebound putback was all-star caliber compared to the other performances we got int he post)
what was his +/- ?????
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, and they're the world champs
a tie is all you can hope for and be satisfied
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
His per 48-minute output would have been just under
96 points and 48 Offensive boards!
Not even Big Snacks has that kind of production
I'm just doin' the math in my head
but wouldn’t his per 48 have been EXACTLY 80 points and 40 rebs?
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2pts 1 reb in 1.2min. 1.2 into 48?
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Ha!
I like Linton, BTW.
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I'd just like them to win or lose with the players that are in this team's future.*
That’s all. They lost anyway, so who cares? Get the experience. Come back next year saying your young team ran the defending champs to six or seven games. Get all the guys confidence and determination and late-game clutchiness experience. Let this be their “first you have to just get there season.”
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*except for Ben Gordon. I like him and want him out there, even if he won't be in Chicago next year.
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It took the celts
-Rose’s bad game (due to the celts defense)
-a billion more rebounds then us
-a game winner
All on their homecourt to beat us, I still like the bulls chances
by aznlildelfin on Apr 20, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Rose’s bad game (due to the ridiculous 1st quarter foul calls)
Fixed.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Apr 20, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
i agree with optimism. im very optimistic about my players. they are proving a ton. i want ben back next year. im even more excited for Deng's return.
but let’s not be blind. please look at the major issues with our team, many stem from lineups issues, substitution patterns, awkward timeouts.
and to be honest, i think VDN could be a great coach, just not a great head coach now.
he is obviously a motivator, and seems to encourage guys like TT. BUT he has not shown the ability to make sound, spur of the moment decisions.
yeah, I'm sure Tyrus feels great
after sitting the entire 4th when he won the last game in OT
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
God, I wish I beat writer had balls and asked that question.
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by tyger1147 on Apr 20, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You only think that
because you got to see a whole episode’s worth of Meet the Browns clips
by Syxx on Apr 20, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yea they are
It ruins the tension and excitement of the game. Also it helps the Celtics because they are the ones who need the rest. It probably is a conspiracy just like how the schedulers set two days off before each game in Chicago.
by Looney_Bucky on Apr 20, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
how does this fit into momentum101
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Bulls are better
Bulls have out played them.
Bulls are a better home team.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
Boston squeaked it out how does that mean they'll take the series?
when the Bulls are better at home?
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
they are older so they need the rest more
did you see paul pierce in the fourth quarter — he was exhausted
by Looney_Bucky on Apr 20, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
it's just you watch a good game and then the same awful commercials over and over.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
They seemed to have better defense on DRose today...
by bullsfaninbigapple on Apr 20, 2009 9:24 PM CDT reply actions
Rose wasn't looking to score this game.
He wasn’t darting into the lane. He wasn’t coming off screens shooting. He was more passive
They clogged his lane
He dribbled back out a lot of times because he couldn’t slash to the hoop. They did a really good job containing him
did anyone see the postgame interview
vinny keeps talking about the team not grabbing boards. maybe if he put a rebounder like tt they would. i wanted to throw something at him
it's not even tactics
just fucking play thomas because he’s one of your best players and he earned it.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
flagged for offensive language
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Apr 20, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Just out of curiousity, weren't you hating on Gordon on Saturday?
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did he say anything about benching thomas?
was he unprofessional again or something?
eating a bag of doritos in the locker room
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
miller has been a better rebounder than thomas lately
Miller just loses the ball and is way to slow to play more than 20-25 minutes in a playoff game
by LoveForTheGame on Apr 20, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
"The San Antonio offense sparked by Drew Gooden."
Yep, this night is done.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
let me guess
he hit a heels on the 3 point line jumper?
actually, yeah
hahahahaha
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If he doesn't fall for the shot fakes,
but that’s a big if
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
with pierce though all he would have to do is stand up tall...
im sure TT would get heated after all the pierce bitching calls though.
the only way to get him in the game
is to knock Vinny unconscious with the clipboard
"...Lies, damned lies, and statistics."
by Teri on Apr 20, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll bring a brick to game 4
a throw from the 200 level should surely knock VDN out.
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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
god imagine if we could put Thabo on pierce or allen.
THABO from the 2007 playoffs.
He can guard James.
He can guard Pierce.
Consistently? I dunno, but he can do it.
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but james uses speed and strength. these are things TT can do
he cant do herky jerky anticipation Defense.
I don't know. As much as Pierce does it, I think he could learn quick.
Despite the dissers, Thomas is a smart instinctual player. At least, I don’t think he’s going to get juked the entire game.
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I'll agree w/ that.
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i didnt come on here throughout the game but wow...what a game.... as a fan of basketball, it was just straight up incredible...
as a fan of the bulls, it was a heartbreak. I understand the a lot of people here think it was vinny who fucked us over once again.i agree but not because he made so many mistakes throughout the game, cause i think he didnt. but one thing that obviously needs some help is the timeout management. two games in a role without a TO remaining at the end must be pinned on someone, and that someone is vinny. so i do blame vinny for that aspect of the game. but thats the only thing i blame on him, because, well, we are competing very good against the defending champs. and coaching has a lot to do with it. as a fan of the bulls, i hate seeing mistakes, especially from the coach, but maybe we should start giving some credit where credit is due……….now go ahead and crucify me if you’d like………
Actually,
one play I remember was one of the jump ball calls on a (Noah?) tie-up. The refs not only didn’t call a foul, they reset the 24 second clock, and still charged the time out the player called! Then they (he, really) threw the ball up towards the Celts’ big on the jump. :(
Oh, it won’t be as much fun re-watching this one….
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Losing Game 2 isn't as bad as it would have been if we lost Game 1
For Bulls fans who are going to be near the sidelines, make those Celtics hear it just like the Celtics fan did to our players.
I’m optimistic that we can win as long as VDN doesn’t screw it up. Hopefully the rest will help Salmons. I can’t wait for Thursday
Pierce is overrated
Two straight games at home and he plays average. He can’t be a superstar without two other superstars by his side. What a joke. I don’t know why we didn’t let him shoot the last shot.
by Looney_Bucky on Apr 20, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
whatd he say?
“paul pierce is real happy ray allen hit all those shots, because paul pierce got his shit stuffed by rose and TT. paul pierce is also real happy that coach with the slick hair took that tyrus guy out of there; he was making it real hard for paul pierce to do anything in the lane”
by Calogero on Apr 20, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Is anyone afraid of hearing Kush's next podcast?
I can hear it now…
Gordon Slurping
VDN bashing….
wait, I just had his last 20 episodes playing….
At least he didn't talk about Lindsay Lohan for 10 minutes
like Mark and Fred.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Apr 20, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
whatever we took 1 of 2 thats all I asked for.
we got little calls down the stretch while Perkins was pushing everyone in the back.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
by SoulEater7 on Apr 20, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
im guessing no
he’s been playing miller way too much in the 4th ever since he got him. why stop now?
Paxson needs to fucking step in and put an electric collar on VDN
when Miller needs to come out. Or when he wants to call TO’s.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
the way these first two games went...im very happy...
i really dont see the c’s beating the bulls i chi-town…..nope….not gonna happen…….
yea because we're so unbeatable at home
it’s not like we got blown out by the raptors at home recently or anything
no. shit.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
he's a cubs fan at heart thats why he's so negative
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
by SoulEater7 on Apr 20, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
im a white sox fan for the record
i just dont see this incredible home court advantage of ours that everyone is claiming. weve beaten a lot of average to below average teams in relatively close games at home. sure we still have a chance, but i dont know how you can be so damn positive after we just blew a golden opportunity like we had tonight. i really doubt we’re gonna win 3 games over boston at home so we need another one on their floor
The healthiest way to look at this series, is that the Bulls could have easily
lost the first game with Pierce hitting one more free throw.
Not that Vinny cost Game 2, and almost cost Game 1.
No that wouldn’t be healthy at all.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions
i drink and smoke
i’ve never been one for healthy living
The healthiest way to look at this is...
looking at the health of the teams.
Cetls down:
KG
Powe
and Rondo tweaked an ankle
Bulls down:
Deng
and a groin strained Salmons
We have the healthiest outlook
i imagine rondo will be fine
and salmons looked pretty healthy tonight actually
ive thought his good shooting all years been an anamoly
he’s never been a particularly good shooter and i always figured it was just a matter of time til he came crashing back to earth
pierce can go suck something that starts with a C
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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Bulls had a higher eFG%, FTA/FGA, and lower TO%
The only one of the four factors that they lost was the OReb%. Celtics gathered 42.9% of their misses, whereas the Bulls only grabbed 21.6% of their misses.
That’s the entire difference between winning and losing. The Bulls either dominated or slightly edged the C’s in every other category, and because they got hammered on the boards, they lost the game.
Fuck Vinny.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
Rondo was the lead rebounder of the game
that cannot happen if we want to win
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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Did anyone ask that dumb fuck how he ran out of timeouts for the second game in a row?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
O Boards and 2nd chance points.
We had 2 7 footers out there and they had Perkins, but they still got all the boards.
You gotta know HOW to block out, though
That’s coaching
Rondo grabbed 7 offensive rebounds and 12 total boards.
Perkins grabbed 7 offensive rebounds as well.
Those were the big offensive rebounders for the Cs. Those are on Rose and Noah / Brad. It would have been nice if Vinny brought Tyrus back. Sigh.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
He's like Milsap.
He’s short for the position he’d play. He’s just strong and wide. Want another Mike Sweetney?
You realize the only reason Kendrick Perkins is a good rebounder
Is because he’s built like a Mack truck. He has no lift whatsoever, yet constantly gets better positioning against the more athletic and quicker Noah. Blair is exactly what the Bulls need off the bench.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
yes yes yes yes and yes
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good point.
Dennis Rodman still wanna play trump fried him.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
Am I the only one who is also kinda pissed off at Kirk?
As soon as the shot went down he grabbed the rebound and went to inbound it. Why not wait a second for the rest of the team to get ready to set a play?
Granted we should have been able to call a timeout but still.
I kno it is but still
I don’t see what the hurry was.
Wait a sec and run a set play.
But wait…
Chances are we don’t have a full court set play.
The top of the Blogabull home page used to say "Fire Vinny". But it really should be
changed now to “Fuck You Vinny.”
D’Antoni would have been worth every penny.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:44 PM CDT reply actions
I'm glad all you optimists think the Bulls are unbeatable at home.
Just like the Raptors game where a victory would have given them the 6th seed. But they blew it even though Brad Miller played the entire 4th quarter. But admittedly, is there a better game management and crunch time coach than our beloved Vinny?
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I am very impressed by RONDO. seriously the numbers. the leadership
he is their best player
5 steals away from a trip dub. unreal
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yeah sorry
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
no, 5 more steals away from a quadruple double
he had a triple double mid way through the 3rd
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
when in college, the idiot UKentucky coach didn't know how to use Rondo.
It’s why he fell to the later 1st round in the draft. But most scouts knew he had the tools and talent….but not to be THIS good anyway, but NBA starting caliber.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I grew up a huge UK fan as well
Tubby wasted his talent like no other. I don’t like talking about it :(
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I think he's a good No. 2 and Perkins is a good No. 4.
If they can get someone better than Rondo after Garnett, Allen and Pierce go, they can still be really, really good.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
I agree.
It’s pretty amazing that no one really talks about a guy who is practically a triple double waiting to happen every night.
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I dunno
He’s been playing like this alot of times this season. Deferring to teammates and not understanding that he IS our offensive system.
It's part of why his season-long numbers aren't that great.
He has the ability to be great, but he has the immaturity to suck at times, or at least be ineffectual. That should never happen.
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agreed
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he played well
he realized that bg was hot and let him score 42 pts on 24 shots. Im not upset at all about his performance.
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
also
boston played really good defense
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
They did make some good adjustments on defense
But that’s where the coach needs to make some counter adjustments.
we just need lindsay hunter to slap rose in the face and cuss him out before each time he goes in the game.
maybe that will get him to show some emotion.
He have a pass first mentality
If his teammates are firing up, he will pass it first
"...Lies, damned lies, and statistics."
BG didn't really get hot until the 4th, though.
Noone else was really on fire.
Who's taking Brad millers spot next season?
isn’t his contract up?
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
no he's here until 2010 summer
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont really blame miller
i think he’s a good complement to tyrus and noah. but the key word is complement; he should play 24 mins and get out of the way. 36 mins and playing over tyrus down the stretch just shouldnt happen
Brad has playoff experience
He’d had championship experience if the Lakers didn’t screw job the Kings years ago.
He has the biggest expiring contract in the league next year...
…despite being valuable on the court, his contract is great for the 2010 run.
And he is a great fit for this team, he just needs to be spelled more quickly
his legs expired already ( a long time ago)
someone tell VDN this is the post season. Miller in slow motion doesn’t work when teams are fighting more to win..
man up!
If we only had Larry Hughes to shoot that ball with 3 seconds left in the game
You know, like how he did it against the Jazz earlier in the season.
LOADS OF SARCASM. DON"T FLAME. OKAY FLAME A LITTLE (because I secretly loved when he hit that shot… but nothing else he did)
Brad Miller has had some crappy finishes this series
But you all don’t seriously think Tyrus should always be in the game over Brad do you? Brad’s had some sucky moments, but TT & Noah weigh less than Big Baby’s left nut. And although i think athleticism is the way to beat the Celts, in the playoffs you also need half-court execution, and having Brad in w/ Rose has led to some good half-court execution these past few months.
It's the 4th quarter Brad minutes that are driving us all bananas. He's tired at the end and it shows.
Vinny keeps running him into the ground and Brad looks worse and worse as the game goes on. Play him his 25-30 minutes, but for chrissakes give Tyrus the last 8 minutes of the game.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Always? Not at all.
But a rested a Tyrus Thomas is better than an exhausted Brad MIller. It baffles me that anyone would argue otherwise.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Brad Miller is more of a coach than a player for the Bulls
Like we need another one.
One thing, why do we keep paying Pete Myers year after year after year. This guy has obviously failed at his job which is to develop big men. It was not until Brad Miller arrived, that Noah and Thomas really started to flourish.
So let’s give VDN a going away present—-Pete Myers.
just got back from the game, i'll post some comments in the post game thread, this thread is too damn long lol.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
On Noah's technical
What did Joakim say? I am sure I missed this question on the other two game threads (I looked and didn’t see it), but it sure looked on TV that Noah said nothing; he just looked at Perkins, who kept yapping. (sidebar: Perkins is one of the biggest tools in the league). Am I right to say that the T was a joke?
it was a joke
shoulda been no T or a double on perk and noah
and there was a poll earlier this year among players and Perk was voted most hated player in the league
He yelled out after he blocked Perkins (or whoever it was)
He yelled out something I can’t remember, but it was audible on the TNT broadcast (something along the lines of “take that sh*t” or something. He simply taunted after a block. Garnett should’ve been tossed every time the camera showed him (he says motherf**ker enough to make sailors blush)
yea i think he said
“gimme that shit” always a classic i just stuffed your ass taunt
Garnett
is also known for, shall we say, “picking his fights”. It doesn’t surprise me at all that he is trash talking a couple of young bigs when he can’t even get in the game. That’s his style. (Now, if we had Duncan or Shaq… he would be quiet!)
garnett actually prefers to taunt white backup pgs
hes the biggest fugazi in the league
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i started laughing
and i was in attendance. i was just like wow.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
did you laugh when a slab of bacon fell off of glen davis' back?
by joetheplumber on Apr 20, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
kenDICK perkin and Glenny Davis...
are the combined weight of a semi-truck and trailer you know
by joetheplumber on Apr 20, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
when he fell out of bounds
i thought someone was going to die. even the lady behind me (who had one of the most annoying voices ever) remarked about having a 300 lb man fly at you…
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Does anyone wonder why Brad Miller hasn't imrpoved Gray's play?
They are basically the same (minus Millers passing, jumper, and beard, and Grays hypnotizing slow jog thing). Divac helped Miller in Sacto, why not pay it forward?
Um, they are not similar at all.
Gray is ridiculously slow. And cna’t shoot. And can’t pass. Two things that make Miller really good.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
yes, I always worry about Aaron Gray
diamond in the rough, that one.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone needs to think of naming a new position for Tyrus : "Power small" ?
Like Scottie was a point forward.
Tyrus has the body of small forward, but blocks like a defensive center. Who else does that.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions
Josh Smith?
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
I know tyrus only had 4 rebounds
but brad miller, although a better rebounder, hurts us as a team if used for long stretches. Hes too slow and cant show hard on the pick and roll. Also, he cant really rotate fast enough defensively which result in him or someone else being out of position. Thus, despite tyrus’s lack of rebounds, players are in better position to rebound when hes on the floor with noah. I dont know if I presented that thought clearly enough, but I think I made the point.
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
Also, kendrick perkins committed a foul on just about every offensive rebound
and vdn once again wasted all of his tos
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Still Salmons is really doing a nice job checking him
Pierce looked tired. He’s not used to being pushed on both sides of the court since attention paid to Garnett usually helps him get open at times. Without KG, and with Salmons riding him, Pierce looks like nothing special.
the rebounding statistics are slightly misleading in this game, it was more even if you factor in
that the Bulls had FOURTEEN BLOCKS as a team.
Problem was, Boston was rebounding those blocks better. Bulls still had huge problems blocking out, but it wasn’t as horrible as just being outrebounded defensively.
(boston had 6 blocks)
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, cause ty knocked a few of those out of bounds
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
The Bulls rarely gather the ball after blocks.
Tyrus either throws them out of bounds or slams them down back to the offense. Noah usually just tips them back to the shooter or short to a man under the hoop for an easy 2.
ty has been improving a lot in this aspect though
but noah def has to learn to work to get his blocks away from the opposing team. a bunch of them did more harm than good.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Those were
incredible plays! Such a shame to waste stuff like that and BG’s great game…
It’s tough to win on the road vs champs in the NBA, man!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
yeah, i know, i was there
the rose save was awesome.
but i mean for instance ty’s block at the end of the 3rd quarter, it was at the buzzer so he could just shove it out of bounds. that block kicked ass.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
You are right though
I do appreciate when Tyrus says it is his fault for putting too much into a block (that shows maturity)
Two (I think unique points)
1) None of our bigs set good screens. Allen got textbook screens and freed himself from Gordon to get good looks)
2) Gordon couldn’t stay with Allen. He was getting screened the entire fourth and he changed nothing (could be a coaching lack of move, could be that Gordon couldn’t fight through them)
they also rotated out onto bg to force difficult shots
we made NO defensive adjustments…incredibly frustrated
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
every screen boston sets is illegal
those little fucking hipchecks drive me crazy. and on the game winning shot ray got a couple of the most illegal screens ive ever seen set for him
BG
Stayed with Allen fine. He destroyed Ray All night long. I know Ray hit the last shot, but BG’s defense was solid. THe last call they purposely put Noah on Allen for Noah’s length, and Ray did what superstars do.
Vinny’s really opening my eyes so far. I know Doc mostly sucks and lucked into this team, but Vinny’s strategy (let Rondo shoot and let Glen Davis and Kendrick Perkins try to beat us, is a great strategy. Unfortunately both Davis and Perkins had a taste of home court tonight. I don’t think they’ll keep that up. e’ve stopped Pierce from being the superstar he is (how good is John Salmons? Continues to surprise….Glenn Davis won’t do that again. Tyrus was fantastic tonight, but suffered too much from the Tyson Chandler syndrome, getting fantastic blocks that he either blocked out of bounds or blocked to a Celtic…..
We’ll see….would have loved a win, we were the better team again, but you have to be encouraged with this one.
Kirk had a better O game tonight, but what was lost last game was how absolutely fantastic his D was…..
4-9-09: Ok, so Vinny's not great, but maybe he has a future as an assistant coach.
Unlike
most here, I’m impressed with what Salmons has done too. Makes Pierce run on D too.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
His shot selection is again poor, but he at least attacked the hoop more
Pierce really looks gassed, he drove to the hoop easily 4-5 times in the final quarter and then just flopped for calls. The refs thankfully didn’t buy into his act.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Gordon played incredible defense on Ray Allen
When the Celtics are setting 3-4 screens per possession to free up Ray, there isn’t anyone who can maintain that physical energy to keep bouncing off Kendrick Perkins/Big Baby, while at the same time carrying the scoring load.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Boston was getting regular season fouls tonight.
that first foul on Rose? Where was it?
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
Here goes Charles Barkley
praising Kendrick Perkins. Asshole.
going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!
He would like someone who is only a starting center because he's wide
I fucking hate Perkins, and I will throw a party the day KG retires and everyone gets to punk him back.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
that sucks
we shouldve won. The blame clearly goes on vdn and not even so much for wasting his timeouts (although that was pretty terrible), but more so for not making a single defensive adjustment all night
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions
defensive rebounding was the main problem
they got 21 offensive boards, and outrebounded us by 14. we get any of those rebounds at the end of the game, and it’s probably over.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
We should have pushed and hung onto shirts
as much as they did then. Because that is how they were getting rebounds. Somehow I don’t think we would have gotten away with it that much.
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no, i agree
i remember one particular instance where noah was going for a rebound and they pushed him out of the way with no call. this was right in front of me cause my seats were behind the basket (a little further back, but still within clear view). so lame.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Also, I know that no one is gonna agree with me but
Brad Miller is very overrated as a passer. Yes, he makes some great passes, but thats bc he attempts a lot of very difficult passes. He also makes a lot of terrible turnovers which really hurt us…especially tonight
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
When Miller is gassed he is no longer good.
A good coach would manage their players. Like a good coach would manage time outs and other coachy things. Now where do we get one…
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You mean a good coach woud....coach.
Tyrus only played 20:25, compared to Miller’s 35:30
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Vinny needs a new name for himself.
“Coach” just doesn’t work anymore.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
Only if they get to say it
when they call out the lineups at the beginning of the game at the UC.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
I don't agree with the overrated passer comment
I do agree he tries threading the needle too much. He does lose the ball a lot when he is looking for calls, but so does Gordon, Noah, and Tyrus.
part of being a good passer is knowing when to make a pass
Just because someone is capable of making great passes, but always turns it over trying to do so, does not mean they are a great passer.
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He's made bad passes
early in both games. Pre-“gassed”. He looks to me like he almost hasn’t adjusted to it being the playoffs.
But let’s give him a bit of a break, things should go a little easier at home?
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
its not just tonight
he commits a lot of stupid tos
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly!
I’m sayin’ he’s playing regular season, and it’s post- now. So more (and worse) TOs.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
but he does it in the regular season and post season
however, since he is a veteran and has some good highlight passes, people act like hes bill walton
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't tell me
man! I was never a fan. That’s yfBB’s guy!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Miller continues to force the issue with his entry passes
Joakim Noah is not Al Jefferson, he can’t corral difficult passes all the time. The Celtics live off deflected passes, and Miller gives them lots of chances with his lazy passes.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh$%#$%#$%
The Bulls played tonight like a poised veteran squad. They overcame all the bullshit, a hostile home crowd, increased attempts by the Celtics to get physical. In the end, the Celtics played much better defense on Derrick Rose, and our bigs could not get a defensive rebound to save their life.
Props to Ray Allen, he had a hell of a game, there wasn’t anything more you could have done to stop him. BG and Allen were going at it the whole game, not once did they talk smack, or stare each other down. Just 2 ballers going at it.
And, oh yeah, fire Vinny.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Finally, I know he didnt play but I hate Kevin Garnett
It is really annoying watching him talk shit to scrubs while not saying anything to star players. It would be like me taunting a 3rd grader for not knowing calculus
by rosefromconcrete on Apr 20, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions
Psssh you can't calculate the area of a square?
Try Calculating the area under a curve! It’s integral that you know that
by Syxx on Apr 20, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's all obvious Vinny didn't have a play drawn up
if the celtics did score at the end. no one knew what to do. we shoulda had something drawn up seeing as we didnt have a timeout
by The90sBullsRevival on Apr 20, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
good point
it almost looked like they didn’t even know they didn’t have a timeout
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
C'mon guys!
He called the last time out to get a good look for Ben, going for the tie (?), OT. If he hadn’t, and they’d had someone other than Ben shooting with 20 secs left, you’d all be up in arms over that. Get real, okay?
And Revival, my post is not specifically meant for you as much as you’ve coincidentally triggered a reaction on my part to all the illogical VDN hate/blame.
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is there a postgame thread up yet
i dont think my computer can handle much more of this 1000 comment+ thread
Also, Vinny del Negro better start hamming it up with the refs
It’s clear Doc Rivers was all over the officials at halftime. The Celtics came out early and were able to commit some pretty tough fouls without any repercussions. Joakim Noah was called for the most unccessary technical foul ever. This loss wasn’t on the refs, but it’s pretty ridiculous how different both halves were in terms of playing style. Both teams should not have to bitch and moan to get to the foul line, it should just be a given…if you’re hit, go to the line.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
He better start yelling.
Doc’s voice was hoarse. Vinny’s is normal.
I want to see VDN get thrown out.
1) he’d be standing up for his players trying to get them calls
2) He wouldn’t be coaching the rest of the game
Everyone wins then
by Syxx on Apr 20, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Vinny sounds stupid when he talks. Like in timeouts. Even when he's saying something smart.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saw the post game conference
it’s like no matter what the question was, he is going to answer “…offensive rebounds, second chance points…ray was great, ben was great.”
Dull-Negro meter exploding
"...Lies, damned lies, and statistics."
recap post is up.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions
we need drew gooden back
he is dominating for the san antonio sperms
Why didn't that 3 at the end of the second quarter count?
It went in, and was out of his hand with 1 second left on the shot clock. They blew it off, but it looked like it needed a second look to me.
These are the kind of mistakes that make me think the NBA is the WWE.
it didn't go in.
i was sitting right by the basket at the time. ;) it bricked off the front of the rim and fell straight down.
KC actually said:
Further review: TV replays showed a deceiving angle, leading some to believe John Salmons’ three-pointer swished through near the end of the third quarter. Instead, officials properly called an air ball and 24-second shot clock violation.
it didn’t look like an airball to me (and looked like he got it off in time), and i was on that side of the court, but i guess it didn’t actually draw iron.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
The ball actually
hit the net making it look as though it went in. I think seeing the net move make people think it went in.
How is that even...
physically possible? I’ve never seen the net move like that in my basketball life without going in. That’s the weirdest thing.
It hit the net just
below the rim giving the net the look of a swooshed basket. I thought it went in too until they showed the replay.
How in the heck does Joakim Noah get called...
for a foul after being pushed in the back? Just let that go. The NBA is so rigged.
How about a box out?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
Or anticipation of where the miss is going. I’d expect Miller to be able to do this since he’s experienced.
2 more defensive rebounds so that Boston didn’t get an offensive put back would have won them the game.
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