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Bulls take game one, a star has blossomed (like a rose, get it??!?)

It's amazing how different things are when you have a star. Maybe that's what has been the source of much of my consternation this season, that with Derrick Rose on board the stakes are raised: get him help to put yourself into a position where the team matters. And then Rose himself can win games, including playoff ones.

It was just a great game overall (alright, so the officiating stunk...). Rose is far from a star defender so Rajon Rondo was able to nearly match him in a fun duel. Joakim Noah with 17 rebounds, especially big considering how much of a problem defensive rebounding is with this team. If national audiences (and/or Celtics fans) still only knew Noah as the annoying clown from Florida, this was a nice coming out party to show how productive of a player he is.

And then two major contributions down the stretch: Ben Gordon shaking off a rough day (or more accurately, just being a guy who never thinks he'll miss his next shot) to put in 12 fourth quarter points. And then Tyrus Thomas with 3 huge jumpers in overtime, at times looking like the only guy on the Bulls not afraid to shoot. Sometimes that supreme confidence works against Thomas in his shot selection, but it's something that one can live with due to the eventual results, no matter what odd path it took to get there. Seeing him come through in a moment like that was so satisfying as a Tyrus Thomas fan.

And to win in that way saved this series, because I'm not sure the Bulls would've recovered if they lost on a day when Derrick Rose put on this type of performance. So many times when the offense broke down (kidding, they don't have one) it was Rose hitting big shots to keep them in it. With Pierce (credit to Salmons in an otherwise bad game from him) and Allen both having awful games from the field, I'm not sure those circumstances converge again. 

And before I rip him, I'll give Vinny credit for conditioning this team to run. It was off makes, misses or TOs (not as many of those from Boston as I would've liked) and it's the way the Bulls can beat this team. I also liked their aggressiveness, as Rose and Gordon went to the line 20 times. Maybe it just took the playoffs for Rose to be treated like other elite guards when it comes to officiating?

But man, I was a volcano of Vinny-hate when it looked like the 4th quarter would yet again be all Brad Miller with Thomas on the bench. Waiting until 2:25 to get him back in was still unconscionable, but luckily not too late. And then VDN's usual strategy of never making a sub for the extra period worked in his favor when Tyrus came through. With him also running out of time outs and subjecting us to an unecessary disasturous Tim Thomas stint, it was a typical VDN game. And they still look like they have no idea what to do at the end of games.

But what remains true in the NBA is that a great player can overcome that. And the Bulls have him. He's crashing the stage that we're told only veterans reign, and leading a team of guys who are relishing the chance to show the world they have talent, overcoming their inexperience and lack of coaching. It's really fun to watch.

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if we can win tomorrow

id hope it would just totaly demoralize the celtics, and would be a statement to all doubters if we can sweep them
lol it wont happen or shouldnt happen but i can dream

"we dont need a total rebuild, we just have a coach that is trying to fit the sqaure pegs in the round holes, players do well if you set the up to succeed, not try to mold them into a system designed for another team"

by TyrusThomas on Apr 19, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions  

doubt we win 2morw

but im hoping we come out strong again

It's tough to be around competitive situations . . . but I've been able to manage. I've been able to survive. (GOAT)

by Belize on Apr 19, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

can't wait for Game 2!

Hope Rose is as aggressive, then it will be a lot of fun…

by bullsfaninbigapple on Apr 19, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

kinda hope he gets a lot of assists

and everyine starts making shots, there gonna bang on Rose…if I was Doc, I would

It's tough to be around competitive situations . . . but I've been able to manage. I've been able to survive. (GOAT)

by Belize on Apr 19, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good recap.

The 4th quarter had me yelling at the t.v. because of all the Miller time. Tomorrow will be difficult because the Celtics will come out pissed but if the Bulls play well and some players have room for improvement, Salmons had a bad game offensively and BG7 was not on for most of it, they could win this one.

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 19, 2009 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah, i hope it's not a blowout

i’m going to the game tomorrow. i would have chosen to go to game 1 but couldn’t go so i just hope the bulls come out strong since i’ll be in attendance…

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Apr 19, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have fun and be careful

Boston fans are mad crazy. I had a couple swing punches at me at Rays games.

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 20, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks

the celtics variety are a little less scary than the red sox variety, though. i’ve been to games before, but that was before the celtics were any good though. i’m hoping the drunkards won’t notice that my green nba hat has a bulls logo and not a celtics logo. :D actually, i’m going to wear a bulls baseball T too so i guess there’s no hiding it. ;)

and it’s funny you mention the rays because my company got tix for red sox-rays on may 8th which i’m going to. but in that case i wouldn’t really be rooting for anyone… i’m a cubs fan. :P but i wanted to go to fenway park, i’ve never actually been to a game there.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Apr 20, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I plan to make a trip to Fenway eventually

just to see the stadium. I am hopefully going to Chicago this summer for the Rays vs. White Sox series after the All-Star break and will try to go to Wrigley since my little brother hasn’t been there before and I haven’t gone for a couple years.

My advice. Just be a good fan, hope the people around you are nice and don’t be obnoxious (or at least wait until the Bulls put the game away to start)

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 20, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and have fun

Playoff Basketball is so much fun. I went a couple years ago when the Bulls swept the Heat in Miami. Best was getting hi-5 after the game from Deng, Thomas, Gordon and Pippen!

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 20, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's cool

and yeah, i went during that series too. lot of fun.

i’m always a good fan, i cheer for my team but usually keep quiet to the people i’m with. go bulls!!!

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Apr 20, 2009 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats bad ass.

i was there, too. both games. i remember starting a “let’s go bulls!” chant in the stairwell exiting the arena. all the bulls fans joined in.

do you live in Miami or did you come down for the game? if you came down, kuddos fr being a trooper and making that trip.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 20, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live in Sarasota which is like 45 mins south of Tampa.

We only went to game 4 since it was on my break then. Worth it though since it was so much fun. We try to see a game a year whether it be in Chicago or Miami/Orlando.

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

definitely

i go every time they play here in Miami, work permitting. and last year my girl and i drove to orlando to catch them up there after watching them in miami the night before. its a tradition i wanna start and keep going. its cool to make a day of it, take my girl to a park (we did wet-n-wild that time) during the day and then Bulls b-ball at night.

speaking of Sarasota, do the ChiSox still do spring training there? i know they used to when i was a kid.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 20, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

No I wish.

The Chi-Sox left and the Reds came and now they are leaving. It sucks I am going to miss Spring Training. Rumor has it the Bosox want to come but that would be annoying and hard to get a ticket for.

I spent a lot of springs seeing The Big Hurt play.

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 20, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, i love my Marlins

but i used to love The Big Hurt back in the day. i mean, what kid didn’t.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 20, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad they are getting a new stadium

because I hope it will get more people to go to games. It’s so weird being a Rays fan and actually having traffic and people at the games now.

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 20, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm hoping it does, too.

their tv ratings are top 10, so there ARE fans. i just feel with baseball, its 81 home dates a year. a stadium needs to be in the metropolis, to access the most demographic. whether it was Miami or Ft. Lauderdale, it needs to be IN the city. and the roof definitely helps. i mean, even if attendance goes up just 10,000 a night, its already worth it. and they have the potential to become a perennial contender. awesome front office.

but we were definitely pulling for the rays down here last year.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 20, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Especially with the signing of players like Hanley and how this team is really looking good the fans should start coming out. A roof will help a lot, I know I love the Trop for it.

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 20, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

its florida

i know it gets hot other places, but man, i still haven’t been to a place that makes me sweat like florida. and the rain during the summer. roof = game WILL be played. i’m yet to catch a game up in Tampa. i’ve been trying to go up there for a Marlins/Rays game for a bit now. just hasn’t happened. maybe this year.
i did go to the 15-3 killing the Rays gave the Fish down here last year. miserable. LOL.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 20, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the humidity. It kills.

I really like Uggla on the Fins. He is a real cool guy talked to him before a game once.

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 20, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

funny story

my 65 yr old mother got to go to a cubs game for the first time the other day and left after the 3rd inning because the park is falling apart..

by gman2849 on Apr 20, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't surprise me.

It isn’t really a place you go for a good park experience, the bathrooms for one are disgusting and it’s really cramped, but you go for history.

Swav or Die.

by SRQman on Apr 20, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

biggest thing about this series

is the fact that the C’s seem so much more timid on offense without KG and i think it’s because of what they lose on the defensive end when he’s not there.

did anybody else just think the celts were totally uptight on offense? i think they really were, and it is a result of not having garnett anchoring the D. in the past, they seemed to play much more loose and confident on offense because they didn’t have to “worry” as much about scoring since KG was back there to get them stops. now, without him, they really look like they almost overvalue their offensive possessions.

by Daniel Satan on Apr 19, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I dunno.

Pierce and Allen were bad and they’ve both been around long enough that I wouldn’t think they’d be uptight. Especially since they’ve w/o Garnett for awhile.

Maybe Perkins and Rondo would be, but then, they both started off really well.

And Glen Davis, well, he sucks, so I don’t know if he was nervous or if it’s just because he’s not a good basketball player.

So, I don’t know.

(David West takes way too many fade aways. He did that last year, too, against the Spurs. He might be your classic Craig Biggio basketball player.)

Fuck Vinny Del Negro.

by tyger1147 on Apr 19, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

but tyger, those games were practically meaningless reg season games...

now it’s playoff basketball and everything becomes one possession at a time as far as the intensity and style of play and now they all of a sudden seem a bit directionless cuz their formerly defensive identity is now lost

by Daniel Satan on Apr 19, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

You asked if anyone else thought they looked lost.

I responded with "I did not " and thought they just looked bad. And that I don’t think Allen and pierce are so shaky as to be “lost” because they’re old, old veterans and that the two that could have been shaky actually came out really hot. I just so no evidence of them being uptight. Just evidence of bad luck and bad basketball.

Fuck Vinny Del Negro.

by tyger1147 on Apr 20, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right. And they aren't going to be nervous because they've been on teams w/o KG, right?

And Rondo and Perkins clearly weren’t nervous because they started out well.

Glen Davis is bad at basketball. His playing poor was due to that, not being uptight.

That’s five players.

Fuck Vinny Del Negro.

by tyger1147 on Apr 20, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, after watching the game again I'm fairly upset with Vinny as well.

For a minute the whole thing with his dad on the sideline coupled with giving me one of the more entertaining Bulls games of my young life (and actually winning it) melted my cold, black heart. Now I’m just really pissed off at how long Tim Thomas was out there with Brad Miller, that Tyrus didn’t get a little more run, and that ONCE AGAIN we were left without a fucking time out when we REEEEEALLY needed it.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 19, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I know they're short-handed in the frontline

but how many times does Tim Thomas have to annihilate the backboard until VDN realizes he’s a corpse at this point in his career?

My greatest enemy is my inner me

by TheCool1 on Apr 19, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not only is he awful,

he thinks he’s still a player. That’s why I’d rather have Linton Johnson out there hustling like a loon and not shooting. Thomas is a terrible defender, doesn’t try to rebound anymore, and jacks up awful, awful shots.

And now that I’ve said this, TiT is going to go out there tonight and knock down five threes. Success.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 20, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

the time out thing

I think is being blown out a bit. Who would have thought Noah would have fouled PP with 2 seconds left?

going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!

by SoulEater7 on Apr 19, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be blown out if it only happened that one time

but we’re talking about a repeat offender here.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 19, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here's my take on the no timeout situation..

VDN used silly time outs at very questionable times in the game, but I really don’t mind the timing on his last time out. It was right after Allen missed a shot, and Rondo got the rebound and made a jump hook over Noah with 22.1 left in the game.

This most likely should have been the last possession of the game, if we chose to run the clock out for the last shot, but instead we forced a BG running layup which lead to a lucky rebound by Salmons and we got the ball back after the inadvertent whistle.

The playcall was bad for the time-out situation, but the timing of the actual time-out was fine by me. Shot clock is off, no more time outs should be needed. But VDN called the rushed offense and we very well may have been screwed if Rose didn’t end up getting fouled on the inbounds by Rondo.

This is Stacey King reminding all Bulls Fans to support the Bulls by wearing RED to all home playoff game threads! Make the Celtics Bloggers SEE RED!

by chibullsfan03 on Apr 19, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um, the NBA coach who gets paid millions to think of every scenario?

Not having at least a 20 second timeout at your disposal so you could move the ball to half-court? That’s bush league.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

watching VDNs dad's nervous face was still pretty cool

It's tough to be around competitive situations . . . but I've been able to manage. I've been able to survive. (GOAT)

by Belize on Apr 19, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am completely fine with Vinny letting Tim Thomas play 5 minutes a game during this series

He hit a three. Vinny wanted to see if he would make shots and he wasn’t, so he took him out. I don’t think it’s a smart idea to only play 7 guys in game 1, espcailly with Salmons hurt. It wasn’t a big deal.

by LoveForTheGame on Apr 19, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with him getting a few minutes either

I’d just rather it not be with Brad so that we are not completely devoid of interior defense

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 20, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!

by SoulEater7 on Apr 20, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

TiT

Vinnie either has to play Timmy or go three guards to give Salmons a rest. At least he didn’t play him in the second half. I agree he shouldn’t be in with Miller. What bothered me most was Timmy looked like he didn’t want to play. Everyone else seemed to up their intensity, but TiT looked like he couldn’t wait to get back on the bench and collect his paycheck.

by El Toro de Goro on Apr 20, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

What little rant?

I missed it.

" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem

is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Apr 20, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

there is a

fanshot of it

This is Stacey King reminding all Bulls Fans to support the Bulls by wearing RED to all home playoff game threads! Make the Celtics Bloggers SEE RED!

by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perkins

It's tough to be around competitive situations . . . but I've been able to manage. I've been able to survive. (GOAT)

by Belize on Apr 19, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

My nickname for House:

Basketball Garbage. I’d like Perkins if he were a Bull. I’d still loath House as the arrogant, gunning, loud mouthed jag he is. Did you guys see him yell “F- you!” after he hit his one three pointer? That dude should be jacking up shots in the Siberian league, not catching a ride with hall-of-famers and thinking it makes him a baller.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 20, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kobe is 10 times worse...

After he dunked on Milsap yesterday he shouted “Motherfucker… Get the fuck off me!”. Then walked away scowling as the crowd cheered. Don’t these guys realize there are cameras and children watching? I guarantee you will not see Rose doing that.

"Playoffs? Are we talking about playoffs? Really, I mean... Playoffs?"

by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 20, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha saw that

you’re never going to take that trash-talk part out of the game…it’s just not going to happen. These guys definitely realize cameras and children are watching, but they obviously don’t care, so either accept it or watch the games on mute.

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 20, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is the reason we will never hear game sounds or live-feed mic-ups. sadly.

the tash talk experience court side is amazing. its a part of basically and one that i love. people who complain about i find are usually the ones who get mentally taking out of the game when someone trash talks to them. I know we all know those guys at the pick-up courts.

by mandoman10 on Apr 20, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

During a playoff game

or even closely contested regular season game, i doubt these guys are thinking about who’s watching

2nd off, I have not lived in bolingbrook for years.

by Illini0509 on Apr 20, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't need to mute the game...

I can read their lips. That’s hardly the point though, I’m a grown man and it won’t upset my moral compass when they, hell I even swear myself from time to time. I just can’t believe these guys don’t care that they are on television doing it, then want to sell kids shoes and gatorade 2 seconds later? Kobe in particular is a smart guy, but it behooves him to be a decent role model (I would think). I guess swearing pales in comparison though to, oh, say, rape maybe?

"Playoffs? Are we talking about playoffs? Really, I mean... Playoffs?"

by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 20, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

No you are right...

He probably sells more stuff by looking he plays with passion. That is sad.

"Playoffs? Are we talking about playoffs? Really, I mean... Playoffs?"

by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 20, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or, he sells because he's Kobe Bryant and is really really really good

And fans of athletes don’t give a shit if they’re miscreants. Kobe cheated on his wife, a act much worse than swearing after a big play. The only people who care about that are internet trolls.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

overreact much?

Even Tiger Woods is known to drop an F bomb or two during a round. You gonna question his intelligence/role-model status too? These guys are busting their ass out there I’d let a few curse words slide…

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 20, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

When Tiger calls Phil Mickelson a motherfucker...

Then says I’m the fucking best you bitches, then yes.

Call me when that happens.

"Playoffs? Are we talking about playoffs? Really, I mean... Playoffs?"

by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 20, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say this is on par w/ anything Kobe has said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw83P2zkfbE&feature=related

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 20, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

no pun intended…

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Apr 20, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

ease your kid in with a BaB game thread.

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've Gotta Go

My damn wiener kids are listening.

by lilzaky on Apr 20, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a little much, and classless,

even from Kobe. But when Eddie House does it, after a busted play, when he’s essentially a hoops parasite…good lord! Perspective please!

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 20, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Current culture lets the f bombs fly at will

It’s probably not a good trend. With HD you can tell exactly what these guys are saying.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Apr 20, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

And Let's Not Forget....

Our beloved Number 23 sharing a few CHOICE words with Xavier McDaniel in the ‘92 Playoffs with the Knicks. And i’m pretty sure he knew that kids were at the game, and watching at home too! LOL!

J.I.

by Jeye15 The Legend on Apr 20, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perkins

Probably because we played him in high school. And the fact that he didn’t become a “tough guy” until KG started whispering sweet nothings in his ear

My greatest enemy is my inner me

by TheCool1 on Apr 19, 2009 11:35 PM CDT reply actions  

HOUSE

I hate that he kept barking after picking up the ball and hoisting up a trey after a broken play.

by rainman1003 on Apr 20, 2009 6:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Bulls

are still a more talented team then the celtics.

despite da coach

we bring more players to the table.

Pierce can play still, but rose is waaaaaay talented.

our big guys are much better too.

by gman2849 on Apr 19, 2009 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Is this a poem?

If it’s a poem I think it’s outstanding. Watch your back, Allen Ginsberg.

by lilzaky on Apr 20, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate them both but something about Eddie House's shot

how he runs into it and kicks his feet out angers me.

going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!

by SoulEater7 on Apr 19, 2009 11:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Reggie Miller

This is Stacey King reminding all Bulls Fans to support the Bulls by wearing RED to all home playoff game threads! Make the Celtics Bloggers SEE RED!

by chibullsfan03 on Apr 19, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Annoying Clown out of Florida

Which national audience are you talking about, Matt? Maybe some of the posters here on blog-a-bull and Rick Morrisey.
Joakim Noah knows about getting up for big games. Fearless!

by SlamDunk on Apr 19, 2009 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

any of the ESPN/TNT color commentary throughout the season

they pretty much ripped on Tyrus and Joakim every chance they had

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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 19, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wanna see them after a summer of weight lifting and post moves.

Tyrus puzzles me because he plays more like a 3.

going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!

by SoulEater7 on Apr 19, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

if Tyrus learns a post move things change

dont joke or make that comment lightly. Tyrus with a back to the basket post move changes a lot of things for the Bulls in the future. Not a back to the basket game like Yao or Duncan or Boozer…. I mean one post move with one variation on it… thats it.

It could mean the first time since Brand before that MJ where the Bulls could throw it in the post and demand a double team when things got bad from the perimeter.

It also wouldn’t detract from Derrick’s pick and roll offense. If you watch the Hornets… Chris Paul takes some possessions off for rest and just dumps the ball into West in the post.

Noah needs to lift weights this summer and I think he will.

by Jscho316 on Apr 20, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

speaking of that did you see NO's first basket of the game?

Tyson Chandler posting up and scoring. Where was that years ago?

going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!

by SoulEater7 on Apr 20, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

ha ha

na I didn’t see that but I did see him getting two straight alley-oops one from Paul one from west on a touch pass, both after pick and roll.

But the reason I think Tyrus learning a post move this summer is so important, as you said the Bulls haven’t seen one since Tyson was a rookie…. and Eddy Curry wasn’t demanding a double team back then so I don’t count him.

by Jscho316 on Apr 20, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

My only worry about Tyrus is his anxiousness

to score. If he can develop like a jump hook and do it with a relaxed motion I would love it. It worries me when he gets it in the post because he almost goes into a hyperactivity.

But with his wingspan and soft touch it’s almost criminal that he hasn’t developed something by now that close to the hoop. Not to mention his hops.

going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!

by SoulEater7 on Apr 20, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

i agree about his anxiousness

its almost like he still doesn’t know how to gain full body control yet. he often goes at the rim full speed, which results in usually not getting good lift on his shot/drive. usually players use their two steps after the dribble to gather themselves so they can get more momentum going up as opposed to fly through the rim.

prime example of Tyrus was on the break away dunk. he just kept going full speed and almost flew by the rim and missed the dunk. he just needs to learn to gather himself before his leap so his jump isn’t so much fast and forward/long, but rather up high. if he gets that good lift, with his wing span, it’d be tough to find some one other than D-Howard in this league that can get up there and block a jump hook.

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by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 20, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wanna know what he said to either Rose or Big Baby after he ran

down the court alone and scored. The no no no yes! nice shot, shot.

He said something like ‘’pass the fucking ball!’’ to Rose.

Or he was talking trash to big baby.

going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!

by SoulEater7 on Apr 20, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

No No No Yes Shot

will be in my top ten next to MJ hang time over Ehlo shot and Pippen walking over Ewing/Sit Down Spike Lee dunk.

by T2fan on Apr 20, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

*with blocks

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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

go to a Bulls game, most people do not like Noah.

basically because he looks like a goof and sometimes plays like it.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

carmon delfalco is that you?

I don’t believe people feel that way about Noah. If they do they should get over it. Personally he’s one of my favorite players on the Bulls if not my favorite. Plus I think the organization likes him as well.

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by SoulEater7 on Apr 20, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Most People do not like Noah"

That’s so nice, eh? Says a lot about what you folks in Chicago call “fans.” I hope he somehow ends up in a real fan city like New York and with a real coach like Mike D’Antoni. I know that as long as John Paxson is the GM that will not happen. Good for Paxson, he knows talent, that is why when the knuckleheads in Chicago were railing about his pick of Noah on draft day, he knew better. He calmly said, “Noah is a winner,” and we saw evidence of that in a big playoff game in Boston. Matt, as far as your derisive comment about Noah looking like a goof and sometimes playing like one, that’s your opinion, but people like me see a tall, handsome, well-bred, charasmatic, talented young man who was able to do what few players have been able to do as a college player and willl eventually leave his mark on the professional game.

by SlamDunk on Apr 20, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

people like Noah.

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by SoulEater7 on Apr 20, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

did they all have to change their pants on draft night like you apparently did?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you please find a website

where the fans actually don’t like Noah? Then your comments and righteous anger will make sense.

Yfbb’s comment was pointing out that the judgment of most fans is superficial. Just like before, when I was defending Noah’s potential, you jumped down my throat.

I actually can’t think of anybody on this board who doesn’t like Noah. Almost overwhelming, BaB views him as an underrated, productive player. Plus, he’s fun to watch.

You realize that most people here are big Noah fans, right?

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by MPG on Apr 20, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

my buddy calls him cro-magnum man.

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by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 20, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

::nods::

I’m seriously contemplating getting a Noah jersey as my next Bulls uni purchase

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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 20, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

all this talk about the celts

playing better sounds a lot like the heat did when we took them out 2 years ago. what exactly can they do better then the pushing and pulling that I saw in game one? Sure Allen might make a few more shots, but so can gordon and fish. Miller could also be more productive as well. and as we have seen in the last month, kurt could even join in the offensive party.

What I see is a slower less talented team then the bulls.

and I see a group that learned from losing a lot of close games all year long, DESPITE their coach.

maybe I’m being too optimistic but then again, they have redeemed themselves in the last couple of months.

So beating this sub par talented team doesn’t seem that far fetched to me at all.

by gman2849 on Apr 20, 2009 12:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know...

Tyrus had five fouls and came up big in overtime. If Vinny plays him more in the game chances are he picks up the 6th foul and then who steps up in overtime?

by silentpete on Apr 20, 2009 1:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Without Miller

we likely wouldn’t go to overtime. He was getting a lot of shot attempts and missing them all. We could have ended it in regulation.

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by cranscape on Apr 20, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

he had 4 fouls when he was sitting

so you have to wait until under 3 minutes to make sure he doesn’t get two more?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Tyrus had 3 fouls? Because at the time I looked it up on Yahoo's box score, because

I was wondering why the hell Miller and not Tyrus was out there:

http://www.blogabull.com/2009/4/18/842774/playoffs-game-one-open-thread#

In Vinny’s defense…Tyrus does have 3 fouls with a whole HALF QUARTER to go in the game.

by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

you're correct

he had 3, then picked up one more in his 4th quarter stint and another in OT.

This whole premise is flawed anyway, as it suggests Vinny sat Tyrus with some kind of plan, instead of ‘Brad Miler is my veteran’.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

There was a really cool moment after the game

After the game ended and everyone was high fiving and and celebrating, Rose was about to be interviewed and BG was walking towards him and BG just bear hugged him and like lifted him up off the ground and Rose was laughing. There wasn’t a real good angle it was on the comcast feed. Maybe I’m reading WAY too much into it, but I think that’s a good sign that maybe we could hang onto Ben. He doesn’t usually show emotion like that, but he just looked really excited and like he’s having a ton of fun. He was also one of the guys that was gushing about Derrick after the game. Perhaps if management still wants him and he doesn’t feel too burned by them, they could get something done.

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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 20, 2009 1:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah I noticed that too

I was surprised to see that.
I’ve been thinking at least playing wise it’d be the best. Rose is only going to get better and I think Gordon will too.

by Camry on Apr 20, 2009 3:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the Bulls sold both draft picks for $3 million dollars, how much does that save them?

$8.5 million??? (Salaries of the picks plus $3 mil x 2) Would that be enough to convince Reinsdorf to sign Gordon to a deal starting between $8-$9 million?

I don’t know. I’m not advocating that, just thinking “out loud.”

I’d probably still rather draft Terrance Williams, shed Hinrich for expirings and re-sign Gordon for 4 years.

Fuck Vinny Del Negro.

by tyger1147 on Apr 20, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Pheonix Bulls

naw I don’t see it.

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by J Theory on Apr 20, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

winning is fun.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Remember when BG wanted Beasley in the draft?

Not so much anymore.

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by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 20, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

winning cures all!

it might make owner willing to go over cap? lol.

but ya, maybe winning will allow BG to justify taking low contract even though the real reason is the bad market.

by mandoman10 on Apr 20, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was going to do this earlier but...

Well, I tried to post something here earlier but there seems to be a one-day waiting period before you can post here.

Hi there Bulls, I’m a Celtic. Or a fan anyway.

I was going to post a “good luck in this series, guys” message. However, since you took the first game (in a rather spectacular way, I might add,) I thought I’d add a congratulatory line in here as well; well done :)

So yeah, good luck in this series, and have fun watching these spectacular games!

- Dirk 'DaarisDirk' van Boxtel

by Kiorrik on Apr 20, 2009 2:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Wait, VDN ran out of timeouts?

WHAT?!?
How … how? How do you do that? Guh.

Joakim Noah: Better than you.

by Prevenge on Apr 20, 2009 3:16 AM CDT reply actions  

My biggest problem with VDN timeouts

is that he seems to call them at the worst possible time.
It is as if he wants to call them to interrupt a run, but rather than stiffling the run, he only seems to acknowledge it.
He always calls them one possession too late.

by torch on Apr 20, 2009 6:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel as if the Celts will be doubling Rose all game today...

but that should leave BG open all day. If he shoots 50% and takes over 20 shots, I predict we win…otherwise I think it’ll be tough.

by aznsensation on Apr 20, 2009 5:09 AM CDT reply actions  

The doubles are going to come early

Thomas and Noah better be on their horse changing ends. If they do they can be on the receiving end of good passing out of the Celtic traps.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Apr 20, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

rose should seriously be prepared for tim thabadou to re-work defense...

the celtics are known for coming out and hedging pick and rolls BIG-TIME with their big men. They didn’t do that at all, last game… im pretty sure they are not stupid enough to allow rose to get to the elbow anymore.

by mandoman10 on Apr 20, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope they do...

No way do Miller and Salmons have another game like that. If and when they focus on Rose tonight it will be up to others to benefit from the space. BG was having an off night too, until the 4th. He could benefit greatly from more focus on Rose as well.

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by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 20, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

true... its a shame we dont have more john salmons cutting action when rose gets hedged on picks and rolls.

but your right all they have to do on that hedged pick and roll play is have rose pass ball to his big man that just set the screen and then that big man passes to the corner for wide-open trey bomb.

by mandoman10 on Apr 20, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Roll baby roll

With space the lane should be wide open. I’m talking to you Tyrus.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Apr 20, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

the reason they are so great at hedging was primarily having KG doing the hedging.

He’s probably the best in the game at hedging out and then recovering back in a timely fashion. Long arms and strides make it easy for him. Big Fatty Davis and Perkins don’t have the kind of speed and quickness (or awareness) necessary to successfully hedge like KG can.

Fire Vinny.

by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would think they'd at least try to trap him after he gets past halfcourt...

forcing Rose to pickup his dribble or at least pass the ball. I just hope it doesn’t lead to more Brad Miller time in which Vinny thinks he’s the only one that knows how to pass.

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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 20, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's hard to do

when Rose beats half of the Celtics back down the floor

by torch on Apr 20, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can we give Vinny a chance?

I mean, it’s not like he’s doing a terrible job. Yes, he makes a lot of mistakes and those mistakes cost us a handful of games or more. But he’s a rookie coach. Don’t forget he’s learning how to coach a team, because he never coached before. Not even in college. Despite that fact, the Bulls got to the playoffs, won a game IN BOSTON and now can dream of win these series.

Look, I was one of those who kept insulting Vinny all year long. But I’m starting to see him in a different way. Maybe there’s hope for him. Maybe he will end up being a above average coach, like Doc Rivers or something… It’s not like Doc Rivers had a wonderful year when we was a rookie coach in Orlando. His record was 41-41 in 1999-2000 (the same as Vinny) and he didn’t get to the playoffs. So, maybe there’s hope for Vinny…

p.s. I’m writing this now, but I think later I will be insulting Vinny again

by bull83 on Apr 20, 2009 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Are you seeing him in a different way or the team?

With the roster we have and also the Easts bottom 4 teams are weak we had to make the playoffs. I’d rather give the credit to our squad.

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by J Theory on Apr 20, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think what you're saying applies to most of the teams

I mean, who deserves credit for winning the championship last year: Doc Rivers or the team? I go with both. So, I think Vinny deserves some – maybe not much, but some – credit too

by bull83 on Apr 20, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

IMO

it was his assitant coach and Garnett who deserve the credit.

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by J Theory on Apr 20, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doc is a good offensive coach, but before Thibs and KG arrived he couldn't coach PnR

defense to save his life. Getting the best big man for defending pick and rolls in the league and an assistant coach that could coach the crap out of defense helped him a lot.

Fire Vinny.

by fundamentallysound on Apr 20, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's why I give the credit to Garnett and Thibs.

If you replace Doc with Saunders or let’s say even Dunleavy does anyone think they wouldn’t have won the championship last year.

So we take it back to Vinny; If Mike D’Antoni or Collins was the coach would the Bulls be in the same, worse, or better position?

Vinny has been improving and he will continue to improve with experience but he is not a good coach at this time. His dad is a better coach at this time.

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by J Theory on Apr 20, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

I agree. He’s not good, but, like you said, Vinny has been improving. If he continues to improve, maybe he can become a above average coach…

by bull83 on Apr 20, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It took Doc Rivers 4 minutes into the game

to start working the officials. Remember, Kendrick Perkins has never set an illegal screen in his life. Ditto with Garnett. But most people should remember how many illegal screens the Celtics stole in the NBA finals last year.

Look at the Celtic blogger reactions. “All of Noah’s screens were illegal.” Even they are used to the double standard.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Apr 20, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

We stold home court advantage which is any teams goal.

Let’s see how Boston adjust. Salmons is still hurt; I would have a talk with him and tell him do not worry about offense and put all of his energy into defense. This should be Gordons game with all focus on Rose. But even if we do lose tonight we have the advantage with our record at home. We come back and when all of our home games we move on to the next round. Odds are in our favor now.

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by J Theory on Apr 20, 2009 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

*win

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by J Theory on Apr 20, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

From the JJ article...
“We have to realize, they’re scoring, we’re not scoring, they’re getting back in the game.

They’re scoring because Brad Miller is in the game and not rebounding, not running around and blocking shots like Tyrus does, so the logical thought would be to get Tyrus back in the game. To get better at defense, because that’s what Tyrus is really good at.

We have to get after it defensively. When you’re not scoring, you rely on your defense. That’s what’s going to get us to the next level."

That next level? You mean the level one needs to be able to get in order to block a shot? Hell, a level one needs to get to even get his shott off? Yea, Tyrus can get to that level, and you should’ve put him in long before you did, so just say you made a mistake and fix it. Spare us the coachspeak please…everyone knows it was your fault we almost lost that game.

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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 20, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Rose was the equalizer

But this was the critical component to the victory.

especially big considering how much of a problem defensive rebounding is with this team

Miller and Noah were a rebounding machine. Limiting the Celtics 2nd chance opportunities was huge. It also created the transition opportunities that went so much in our direction despite a +4 net in turnovers.

The writers are pointing to poor shooting from Allen and House as a factor, but our shooters were just as poor. Odds are both sides will rebound in the shooting department tonight.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Apr 20, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Question

(and maybe this was discussed during the in-game comments). What the fuck was Del Negros dad doing on the bench? He’s not on the team. He doesn’t belong there. Go up to your seat, viejo. It would have been great if he got a technical that cost the team the game. Just great.

by Reed97 on Apr 20, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

He's Italian

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by chibullsfan03 on Apr 20, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN captured some great quotes though

When Noah blocked Glen Davis on his dunk attempt and the refs blew the call, Gramps waved his hand at then and mouthed “Come on. That is some f-ing bull sh*t.”

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Apr 20, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was odd as well.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

He gradually moved closer to the bench as the game went on

He was actually in the stands in the beginning, then just ambled his way down. I though it was cute seeing Vinny and his father hugging, it made the hair feel human.

That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 20, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

espn, abc, and tnt

always have to find that “family member” to zoom in on throughout the game. its that one person who seems really connected to the game.

its a way of trying to give people watching at home the same collective euphoria fans feel at the game. It makes it more intense. Looks like all they could find was the bad coaches old but goodie father.

by mandoman10 on Apr 20, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

the cougar needs to make an appearance, methinks.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boston ladies not doing it for ya

They’re not as good when you can’t hear the slurs coming out of their mouths.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Apr 20, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

I’ve never heard more cussing from cars than in Boston. Funny thing: my buddy, totally normal guy, was waiting to cross the street. He had 1 year old with him. As a car goes by, a bunch of frat guys roll down the window. One yells “nice baby, dork,” then throws a slurpy at them.

What’s wrong with these people?

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by MPG on Apr 20, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised if he moved because of rowdy fans around him.

Just guessing.

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by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 20, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought about that...

…but why’d he leave his wife up there, then? So he can pull an Antonio Davis?

by Reed97 on Apr 20, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blaming a coach for "almost" losing

is like blaming a guy for getting a girl “almost” pregnant. I agree that Vinny is inept, but really, this is pushing it. He just coached a team with no healthy small forwards to a victory against the defending world champs. Someone got them ready to play and somehow they were in position to win. Somehow Tyrus was in the game during the overtime with sufficient confidence to take (and make) big shots, instead of sitting on the bench with 6 fouls. Somehow Kirk was in the right place on Ray Allen’s final shot to alter its trajectory. Those things could all be coincidence, but I doubt it. Basho also wrote (or maybe it was Branch Rickey) “Luck is the residue of design”. We’ll have ample opportunity to get on Vinny as time passes. I say he gets a pass on this one.

by Cannoli on Apr 20, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Well said!!!

I’m for Vinny bashing when indicated. The win Saturday is not one of those times. Per Sam Smith

Coaching: Other than being left without that late timeout in overtime, Vinny Del Negro made the right moves and had his team playing at a high level and better defensively than they have been.

by chgobr on Apr 20, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

meh

he still sucks.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, he does.

But not because he almost lost.

by Cannoli on Apr 20, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great analogy! Not.

Really, that’s one of the dumbest analogies I’ve ever seen. If a guy doesn’t use protection, and the girl doesn’t get pregnant, should he not be criticized? If you take your life savings to Las Vegas, bet it on black at the roulette table, and happen to win, was it a smart thing to do?

More to the point, if a player takes an ill-advised shot, and it happens to go in, should he not be criticized for it? The result doesn’t justify the action.

Del Negro has gotten marginally better over the course of the season, but is still a terrible coach. Let’s see what sort of adjustments the two coaches make for tonight’s game.

The Bulls have a real chance to win this series, but if they don’t, it’s coaching that will likely make the difference.

by badnewsintennisshoes on Apr 20, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to parse too carefully

but there is a major difference between getting someone pregnant and not using protection. So you could rightfully criticize someone for being a stupid, or self-destructive, for having unprotected sex but to criticize that person for almost getting a girl pregnant is moronic. Same is true with the Las Vegas bet. You could be critical of the decision, or the thought process, to wager one’s life savings, but to call someone out for “almost” losing is idiocy. The same is true for people who almost got in auto accidents because they didn’t wear seatbelts, and people who didn’t die in place crashes because they forgot to buy insurance. The list of “almosts” is endless; its is pointless to hold people accountable for things they almost did or didn’t do…I’m sure Vinny will give you ample opportunity for valid criticism in the games to come.

by Cannoli on Apr 20, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

"its is pointless to hold people accountable for things they almost did or didn’t do"

well criticizing him at all is pointless, technically. I think he made some really shitty decisions on Saturday.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is not the "defending world champs" team.

They’re missing a very key ingredient.

Fuck Vinny Del Negro.

by tyger1147 on Apr 20, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

"we have a rookie point guard!"

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 20, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Help Please! (online streaming)

Hey guys,

I need a reliable option to watch tonights game online that doesn’t make my eyes bleed. So any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

by benwisch on Apr 20, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

somebody mentioned NBA.com

is live streaming the games. I’m not certain myself. However, if they are, it’s not going to get any better.

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by MPG on Apr 20, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

i was gonna say if the game was on espn...try espn360...but I believe it's on tnt tonight

so I guess you’re either gonna have to deal with the usual streams that are provided or you’re out of luck.

by aznsensation on Apr 20, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I probably should have mentioned that I live in Europe, though. So espn360 etc. ain’t gonna work.

by benwisch on Apr 20, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

So KG's been worked out yesterday..

I say bring whatever you got Boston. KG come out and plaaayyy!!!

going into Bulls playoff lock down..now!

by SoulEater7 on Apr 20, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Beware....

Of KG pulling a “Willis Reed”! I’m so serious, i really believe that if the Bulls pull ahead in this series, i wouldn’t be surprised to see him suit up to play 12 mins- which will be a HUGE inspirational lift for the C’s. Paul Pierce TRIED to do it last year in the Finals, and funny thing was- it WORKED. (As pathetic as it was…)

J.I.

by Jeye15 The Legend on Apr 20, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

If we take control of the series I can see it happening

and it will be to our advantage.

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by J Theory on Apr 20, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

And when KG

blows his knee out for good during those 12 minutes…? He might go out there and play, but it is a huge risk. And the impact to the game in not certain. We might decide to run run run every minute he is out there. I bet they were hoping they could cruise through the first round against the Bulls, but that doesn’t mean KG wasn’t out for a reason either.

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by cranscape on Apr 20, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reed did that in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, not the first round.

If it did happen…it wouldn’t be in the first round.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Reed

Reed had a torn thigh muscle, not a bad knee after surgery.

by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 20, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

when i was first hearing the KG talk about missing the playoffs...

i immediately thought the same thing. they’ll trot him out there, limping, and give the celtics a lift emotionally. hope it ain’t so.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 20, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tonight the Celts are going to play like the '92 Knicks on defense

Only not as quick, no shot blocker in the middle, and um… not as good defensively, especially at the 2 and 3 spots. Basically, they’re going to try to be “physical” and will probably foul a lot on every play.

I expect frustration to get the better of at least Perkins, if not also Glen Davis or Powe or Mikki Moore.

…And Glen Davis should renounce rights on his nickname, because they’re all big babies.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Apr 20, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

or like the Pistons - Dumars circa

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Apr 20, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

All I can say is wow

Just got back from Coachella so I haven’t been able to post.

But that was one of the greatest Bulls games my eyes have ever seen,

I FUCKING LOVE YOU DERRICK!

It’s good to know the rest of the country can finally see what we’ve been seeing all year.

by Option27 on Apr 20, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

IM LEAVING RIGHT NOW TO GO TO GAME 2!!!!

i’m sitting in the loge!!! :D watch for me, haha.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Apr 20, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

GO BULLS!!!!!!!!

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 20, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

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