Bulls control destiny for playoff seed tonight
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 8:48 AM CDT
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A similar situation happened a couple years ago, with the Bulls needing a win in New Jersey to get the 2nd seed (and a far easier half of the playoff bracket) and 50 wins on the season. They lost.
I'm not quite sure what is the better matchup for the Bulls between Boston and Orlando. They're both disciplined, physical, and have really good defenses. That is not good for the Bulls. You can make a case that Boston has a hobbled KG and turns over the ball a lot, which could help the Bulls run. Or Orlando don't have the 'aura' (with help of the refs) that the Celtics do, and the Bulls would have more confidence against them.
But I actually agree with VDN:
"We haven't played great against either one all year," Del Negro said. "They're both going to be difficult matchups."
Asked if he finally would reveal his preferred matchup once the Bulls know their opponent, Del Negro smiled.
"Some high school team or something," he said.
As far as tonight goes, no doubt whatever their preffered opponent, they're playing to win. So unlike 2 years ago, it'd be nice if they did it.
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Would Aaron start then?
…if they played the high school team?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All I know is
Im ready for the bulls to shock the NBA world.
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by Rudey on Apr 15, 2009 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bill Simmons
called for a Bulls over Magic upset in his podcast yesterday
by torch on Apr 15, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great.
no more shock now.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simmons sounds a little bitter against his Disney masters.
He even picked LBJ over Howard for Defense Player of the Year.
…
Orlando misses Jameer Nelson badly. He’s as important to the Magic as Gordon is to the Bulls.
I’m confused why Howard doesn’t/can’t destroy inferior centers like Shaq used to. The Magic always seem like they’re going to get to the next level…but then the Magic keep fading at the end of the year and playoffs.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Apr 15, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LeBron for DPoY?
….
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fact that anyone is seriously talking about him
is pretty damn ridiculous.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
by Jaina on Apr 15, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? Why?!?!
He’s 4th in 1-year Defensive Rating (APM).
He has a 99 DRtg. Bettered only by Ben Wallace on the 2nd-best defensive team in the league.
He can guard the 2-4.
And then he does all the other things like make game-changing plays and energizing the crowd and all that.
Why is it ridiculous? I think he’s got a damned good case.
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by tyger1147 on Apr 15, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has made tremendous strides
but that Sam Smith thing about him not getting called for fouls is what is holding him back for me. He is and will continue to be a good defender, but I can’t let go of the fact that he might be good because he will never get called for mugging somebody.
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Even drones can fly away.
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by jpchi on Apr 15, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isnt it said
that lebron is a better helpside defender as opposed to man? I thought defensively he was very much like d.rose, except unlike rose lebron is surounded by a very good defensive team and d.rose can float around in front of the paint (playing a forward position) to get his stats (rebounds blocks….the things lebron is good at on defense)
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was also going to say
i’d like to see him improve his on ball defense.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
by Jaina on Apr 15, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his on the ball defense is great when he locks in on it
it’s just that if you’re your team’s best player…you’re not expending that kind of energy on on-the-ball defense unless you have to. When LeBron has to, he does, when he can be just as effective by being a help side guy and dominating on offense, that’s what he does. He’s been freaking spectacular on defense this year.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which reminds me
of the kobe and lebron games…how anticlimactic…even if they were “guarding” each other, you rarely felt they really were….
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by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kind of like the "epic" blake griffin/tyler hansbrough matchup?
sorry, matt
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by tyger1147 on Apr 16, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LeBron can't really help the way the game is called and if he's getting those
non-calls, he’d be stupid not to take advantage. It’s to his credit that he knows what he can get away with.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet he still complains when he gets one foul called against him.
Or doesn’t get a call he thinks he should. After he has a chat with the refs the game is called differently. He can help how the game is called. He encourages it.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
by cranscape on Apr 15, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Name me one even good NBA player (save for D. Rose and BG)
that doesn’t bitch up and down when they don’t get a call
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by TheCool1 on Apr 15, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fundie said LeBron
couldn’t help the way the game is called. He could keep his mouth shut and not cry about the ONE FOUL he gets a game if that. So yeah, he can do something. As if he is going to foul out or something. The guy hardly gets in foul trouble yet he still complains about legit calls either way.
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by cranscape on Apr 15, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He works the refs. That's what players do. Every player does it.
For him not to do it would be stupid.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the league was going to call more technicals for whining.
Or is than another rule that does not apply to “stars”?
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Apr 15, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you see how well their calls for flopping are working
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by Jaina on Apr 15, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they haven't really applied it to any one, star or not.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's actually one of the more convincing things i've read
many of the things i’ve read haven’t really showed me why he deserves it. they just sort of go “well he’s improved since last year.” uhhhh ok. his rebounds, steals, and blocks are pretty much identical to last season though.
but jpchi makes a good point too.
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by Jaina on Apr 15, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but one more foul per game?
That’d take him out of the “conspiracy theory” territory and just in the superstar theory. How much difference one more foul per game make?
I have no idea.
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by tyger1147 on Apr 15, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's had a great year defensively
Howard, though, has been far and away more impressive to the point that no one else needs to be discussed as potential DPoY. He’s had a 95 DRating on the best defensive team this season. The next best DRating on the squad by a player who’s played significant minutes for the team is 103! Maybe Jaina had different intentions, but that Howard seemingly single handidly made the Magic the best D in the NBA is too much to get past.
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by snley on Apr 15, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i also hadn't really heard a very good argument for lebron
tyger makes the best case i’ve heard yet. but i would also like to see lebron improve his on ball defense too.
but yes, i think dwight far and away deserves it, and to even suggest wade or lebron to me is kinda silly.
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by Jaina on Apr 15, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree with Howard being there...
…but both DRtg and APM show LeBron as a great defender. They don’t for Howard.
Okay, so the next player is a 103 DRtg, but nobody on the team is worse than “average”. James’s frontcourt D is good with Verajao, Ilgauskas and Wallace, but everyone else is basically the same as Orlando.
I think it’s Howard, too, and it’s not that close, but there’s no way it’s ridiculous to discuss James.
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by tyger1147 on Apr 15, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know how Defensive Rating is calculated on the basketballvalue site?
I don’t, although the numbers look eerily similar to on-court/off-court defensive rating on 82games. Pryzbilla’s is -9.1, and bv has him at -8.8. LeBron is -7.3 and bv has him at -7.6.
If so, that’s a crappy way of estimating defensive ability, because that basically just compares you and your lineups to the defensive ability of your backups. Kirk Hinrich ranks about 15th on bv, mostly because Derrick Rose is god’s gift to opposing pgs. On the other hand, Dwight Howard’s backup Marcin Gortat looked great against us.
by YaoPau on Apr 15, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaq pre-2000 was exactly like Howard
Immensely talented, feared around the league, but still incapable of putting a team on his back to win big games. You can even argue Shaq only motivates himself when he’s out to prove people wrong.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 15, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A friend of mine said
that shaq pre-2000 still at least had the look of a ‘killer’. He was a guy who wanted to dominate you, i dont get that from howard. During the knicks game, in the 4th quarter with 5 min. left to the game and the kicks are up, howard didnt even touch the ball. The commentators talked about how odd that was. Howard is dominant, but i wonder if he has any desire to dominate. It could be that he is still very young, and i mean his persona is of an extremely nice carefree guy…but those also may be the reasons why i wouldnt mind playing orlando, howard seems like the guy that you may be able to take out of the game, and when that happens we may have a fighting chance….
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by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There doesn't seem to be a chip on Howard's shoulder that there is on the "greats".
I agree. Maybe Noah will bring out the scowl instead of the jovial smile.
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by tyger1147 on Apr 15, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw Patrick Ewing...
they should hire Moses Malone as a big man coach…he was nasty in the paint
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by jpchi on Apr 15, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If noah does that
even if we lose id be happy, it would spell good things for the bulls frontlines in the future…
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by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last game of the season
and it will be a great primer for the playoffs. If they show the attitude that should be shown in a playoff game then they will win. And they need to start playing in that mode tonight if they are going to have any chance against Boston or Orlando.
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by J Theory on Apr 15, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope fundamentalysound doesnt mind
but im going to use that line alot now.
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by Rudey on Apr 15, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toronto will go all out to win tonight.
It appears form the Toronto Star that the Raptors will field thier complete first team against us tonight.
NOTE: Andrea Bargnani didn’t play Monday night in Washington, but with two days off to rest his sore left heel there’s a better-than-average chance he’ll be in the lineup tonight.
STARTING LINEUPS
Toronto: Jose Calderon, Anthony Parker, Shawn Marion, Chris Bosh, Andrea Bargnani
That New Jersey game we lost was a killer. I do not want us to lose tonight.
by chgobr on Apr 15, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They wont shoot like god's tonight
and the bulls will come out to win, feeling good about this team as of late.
Going into the playoffs with a feeling of losing first round is a failure.
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by Rudey on Apr 15, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a team that really underacheived this year
I don’t follow the Raptors that closely, but I’ve read/heard very goog things about Calderon and Bargnani’s improvement, and we know Marion and Bosh are good.
It’ll take quality effort and focus for the Bulls to win this one tonight, and they’re fully capable of doing that. Let’s go guys!
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by mdmnd9294 on Apr 15, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive written this before but
if i were to rank the top 5 pgs it would go cp3, d. will, steve nash, jason kidd, calderon. I think calderon is one of the most flawless pgs ever. The guy is usually pretty flawless in everything he does. He shoots when he knows he can make the shot, he passes when he knows he can make the pass (4.21 ast/to !!!), he shoots 98%(!!!) from the ft line, the guy is just amazing. He is just the right ammount of flashy without being out of control. He is just extremely solid. If i had watched more toronto games it wouldve been him who is my favorite player not kirk….
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by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's just not so great at defense.
Human sieve!
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
by Prevenge on Apr 15, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
funny how i overlooked that especially when i usually prefer great defensive players as opposed to great offensive players…just proves how i really dont watch any toronto games….
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by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tonight is the first game all season
where I have the feeling they will come out and dominate from beginning to end. They’re confident, playing decent ball, at home, and have something play for (6th seed). Not to mention both Ben and Derrick have been shooting lights out over the past few games. They should own Toronto tonight.
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by NormVanBeer on Apr 15, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With Salmons shooting bad lately
The bulls have still been playing great, this team is a force to be reckoned with when we bring our A game.
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by Rudey on Apr 15, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe it's due to the injury (groin), but Salmons has struggled against tall atheletic SF (Marion)?
it seems height bothers him? (i.e. Prince,Iggy)
man up!
by exult463 on Apr 15, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best thing about this starting lineup (well, after being good):
Minus John Salmons, average starting age is under 23.
Of course, the counter to this is that Gordon will be replaced by Hinrich and Deng will be firmly replaced by Salmons.
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by tyger1147 on Apr 15, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh my.
That second sentence is one of the most disheartening thoughts I’ve read around here in some time. And it might will actually happen.
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by Illini15 on Apr 15, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You left out the best part of VDN's quote
I know they’ll make some changes and we’ll make some too. But they’re going to know what we’re going to do and we’re going to know what they’re going to do. You have to execute."
What are these “changes” you speak of Vinny? I better not see a #12 in any starting lineup goddammit…
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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3 headed monster?
We might have to go into the Phil Jackson play book to the days of using up fouls on Howard. Hello Aaron Gray!
Brad Miller's pump fake is still not on the scouting report?
by SoulEater7 on Apr 15, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not letting Bargnani go wherever he wants on the court?
That would be one change I’d hope takes place.
by arjoseph on Apr 15, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Thomas will guard Bargnani instead of TT,
so he can hang around the 3 point line all game.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
by Prevenge on Apr 15, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Tonight home court should be the difference and the fact that
it’s not a back to back like the last game. I’m still pissed about that Toronto game but I have a feeling Bulls are too and will play much better this time around.
Celtics or Orlando Im thinking the better match up would be with Orlando. Although they’re both pretty though. I think the Celtics are just a bit more physical with Perkins and KG. Howard is a handful but his free throw shooting is poor.
I’d Imagine Orlando will post up on BG and Rose a lot.
Brad Miller's pump fake is still not on the scouting report?
by SoulEater7 on Apr 15, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
New Jersey game you mean?
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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that pissed me off.
but I was talking about the Raptors game last month. I think it was a back to back?
Brad Miller's pump fake is still not on the scouting report?
by SoulEater7 on Apr 15, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea tt was a Sunday hangover game after
we played Indiana on Saturday. Didn’t we blow it late?
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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
it went into OT but they had a few chances to win.
Brad Miller's pump fake is still not on the scouting report?
by SoulEater7 on Apr 15, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post up question
I think Raefer Alston and Courtney Lee are the starting backcourt right now for Orlando. Neither player scares me at all…… the rest of the line up scares me but not the backcourt. If they wanna post alston on rose instead of Howard on Noah go right ahead.
Matchup with Orlando
Rose> Alston
BG > Lee
Heido = Salmons if Heido’s ankle is still bothering him and Salmons has a tight groin its pretty even.\
Lewis > Tyrus
Howard >>> Noah
Bench Bulls> Magic
Stan>>> Vinny
by Jscho316 on Apr 15, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lewis has also been battling some tendinitis
so i don’t know if he’ll be 100% either
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by Jaina on Apr 15, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, so is Derrick Rose. :-p
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's overblown
He was fine the games before he went out, and he will definitely be playing in the playoffs. He played every game this season before these last two.
I think tendinitis is another word for “getting some rest for the playoffs”. Don’t expect Lewis to be limited in any way.
by runningman on Apr 15, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, it appears Turkoglu's ankle is going to be
The Magic received good news regarding the health of F Hedo Turkoglu, who sprained his left ankle Saturday night in New Jersey.
Turkoglu sat out Monday’s game against the Bucks in Milwaukee but is good to go for the first round of playoffs next weekend.
He turned his ankle against the Nets in New Jersey and had to be helped off the floor with 6:51 left in the game.
“Turk’s had very little swelling and no discoloration,” Coach Stan Van Gundy said. “I think he could have even played [against the Bucks].”
Lewis, suffering from tendinitis in his right knee, also was rested against New Jersey.
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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These two make the rest not matter
Howard >>> Noah
Stan>>> Vinny
Was I the only one here rooting for the Sixers last night so the Bulls could draw the Celtics instead?
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by snley on Apr 15, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think so..
Brad Miller's pump fake is still not on the scouting report?
by SoulEater7 on Apr 15, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus
howard is the type of big noah has trouble defending. noah’s greatest strengths are probably his defense and offensive rebounding. but noah’s defensive strengths are in defending the pick and roll and helping from the weakside, two things that won’t matter much against howard. against strong, scoring bigs in the low post, noah has a tendency to let them get it too deep, and that’s one thing you can’t let howard do. i’ll be real interested to see how noah defends dwight and what, if any, adjustments he makes
by Calogero on Apr 15, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I think doing the position-position matchup is an overall pointless exercise. Team game, team problems.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
double agreed
in the playoffs, coaching strategies and adjustments are more vital than ever.
We’ll see the reality of a rookie coach against his competition play out on this stage
...there's some folks that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
by Envy on Apr 15, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stan Van Gundy is a master of panic
Vinny’s got this in the bag
by YaoPau on Apr 15, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SVG - master of panic
Shaq, is that you?
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't give our bench all that much credit either,
besides Kirk and Brad we’re paper thin…
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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but those are 2 starting caliber players
who do the magic even have? ok, pietrus. gortat was pretty good when we saw him.
but yeah. not impressed.
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by Jaina on Apr 15, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
these are two pretty thin teams
however, we’re younger and like to run more, so i think if we can get out and run on them we might be able to wear them down and get easy points in transition.
by Calogero on Apr 15, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's the playoffs
you only need a couple good bench players.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
*waits for Vinny to play 10 guys in first quarter of game one.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Thomas on Howard?
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by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he went noc on yao, i wouldnt be suprised
by Gen on Apr 15, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed
“Kurt” on Prince a couple of times the other night as well.
I look for BG to guard Howard for an entire quarter.
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by NormVanBeer on Apr 15, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i enjoyed kirk on bosh also
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by Yibs on Apr 15, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim's length
will provide a “matchup” problem by pulling Howard away from the basket, thus taking away Howard’s blockign ability.
by torch on Apr 15, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone else noticed
how much Tim Thomas tries to post up? I don’t know if he’s good in there or not, because the bulls never pass it to him in that spot, but he certainly thinks he’s good.
I have a feeling that he is effective. His height alone would give him the advantage against many SFs
by runningman on Apr 15, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha nice
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by Illini15 on Apr 15, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post Rose with who?
My greatest enemy is my inner me
by TheCool1 on Apr 15, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops. replied to wrong post
My greatest enemy is my inner me
by TheCool1 on Apr 15, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post Rose with who? Skip? *scoffs*
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by TheCool1 on Apr 15, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magic 4-2 over Bulls in 6.
Noah and Tyrus get weight room education 101 from Dwight Howard.
Brad Miller's pump fake is still not on the scouting report?
by SoulEater7 on Apr 15, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, if they need that man-beast to punk them 10-20 times in a 7 game series for it to happen
Then I’m for it.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 15, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree! This is a learning experience for us.
We are not going to win a championship this year. Going to a 6 or 7 game series would be great for us.
by chgobr on Apr 15, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. I think it will be more beneficial to the Bulls.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
by tyger1147 on Apr 15, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what would be more beneficial?
to lose?
by 72-10 on Apr 15, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that what he said?
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 15, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed.
Tyger’s a d-bag.
I also don’t think the ‘learning experience’ matters much, since 1) it’s not like this team will know any more or less how far they have to go, and 2) I think there will be a lot of new faces in the coming years.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
learning experience for rose
thats all ive been looking forward too…maybe throw in noah who has yet to taste playoffs…i can see him and d-rose being the two who will actually take this and use it to fuel them this offseason. THe rest of the team…well they already got a chance and they didnt do much with it….
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh, fuck it
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
by tyger1147 on Apr 15, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it would definitely be more beneficial for us to win a championship
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
by Prevenge on Apr 15, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Miller: King of innuendo
“All I want to do is grab somebody and bang nowadays, but the other guys are playing more physical,” Miller said. "Kirk always has been known to get up into somebody’s backside. [Gordon’s] strong for a 6-footer. The young bigs are getting after it.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-15-bulls-chicago-apr15,0,6250153.story
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 15, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Ha I laughed out loud when reading that...
you know he did it on purpose too. Didn’t Brad major in euphemisms @ Purdue?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad implying Kirk is gay, classic.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no he didn't. grow up. his hair is nice.
-Sue
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's looking like we definitely have to win
if we want that 6 spot:
CLEVELAND — The Cavaliers have chosen reward over risk.
All-Stars LeBron James and Mo Williams and veterans Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Joe Smith will not play Wednesday night against Philadelphia to rest for the playoffs, despite Cleveland attempting to match the 1985-86 Boston Celtics’ NBA record of 40 home wins in one season.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if boston's b-team can beat philly
(yeah pierce and rondo were playing, but pierce led the league worst celtics)
i’d think the b-team cavs still have a shot, haha.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
by Jaina on Apr 15, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely.
So let’s not take any chances! Beat those Extinct Dinos!
by BAB-Bass on Apr 15, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree - we need to beat the Dinos tonight!
The Cavs do not have a Paul Pierce equivolent. The Cavs second team is Boston’s D league team. I’m afraid we need to win ourselves tonight.
by chgobr on Apr 15, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've already avoided the Cavs, and the Cavs are better than the Celtics.
I can only assume you meant the Magic.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was referring to tonight's Cav - Philly game. W/O LeBron, Mo Williams, Ilgauskas Cleveland has no Paul Pierce equivolent.
by chgobr on Apr 15, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, I got it now. Yes, the Bulls need to beat the Raptors, otherwise we'll be playing the
damned Celtics.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad - my mind got ahead of my fingers.
The Celts beat Philly yesterday with their second team. Their second team included Paul Pierce. Tonight Cleveland’s second team has no Paul Pierce equivalent. Sorry about that!
by chgobr on Apr 15, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
simply put
team lebron, without lebron, is team nothing……i think the 76ers can beat team nothing….
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the rest of the LeBrons are a lot better than you're giving them credit for.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do you figure
cuz yea like you said, im not giving them alot of credit. Aside from delonte west i dont see what else the cavs have that should be feared. Verajao is basically an older noah, big ben is still the corpse just on a better team, what else do they have that can be any threat to any team?
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noah is fantastic and so is Varejao. They are both very good at what they do.
Ben Wallace has been hurt most of the year so he’s not really any of my concern – but he’s been much better in Cleveland than he was here (probably because he’s motivated again and doesn’t hate his coach). Mo Williams was an All-Star and is a fine player. Delonte West is criminally underrated (dead-eye shooter and very solid defender). Big Z is a very solid big man. Joe Smith is still pretty good. There’s still a lot of talent on that team even if LeBron is out. Obviously, they are a much, much, much worse team without LBJ, but they certainly aren’t “nothing” as you said.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda OT
But I think Ben is injured and not playing for the Cavs in the first round?
by BAB-Bass on Apr 15, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, he's injured. I made a point to mention that, but since picc0 mentioned
him, I decided to mention that, when healthy, he’s been very good for the Cavs relative to how he was here.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah indeed
you are right certainly not nothing…i shouldve clarified that i was speaking more in terms of that 76ers matchup (in which mo williams and big z werent playing, who i believe are the second and third best players on that team respectively)….but i did say team lebron without lebron is team nothing and thus…pooh on me…
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by piccolomair on Apr 15, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two words: Wally Szerbiak
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Matt couldn't help it
I’ve been spending too much time over @ Soxmachine lately – it’s all pictures all the time over there…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Apr 15, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spell-check
It’s a Polish name… Enjoy! ;)
by BAB-Bass on Apr 15, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a big effin' dude.
holy crap
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by tyger1147 on Apr 16, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a little concerned about the Magic matchup
Shard is exactly the type of PF that Tyrus struggles to guard – i.e. the type that likes to stay on the perimeter and shoot 3 pointers – because Tyrus wants to be down in the paint blocking shots and playing help side. He tends to leave his man on the perimeter, even if his man is a good three point shooter, and when he does that it’s a killer. If that leads to Tyrus not playing big minutes in the playoffs, I will be pissed.
Also, Dwight is the worst possible matchup for JoNo because he is the most physically imposing center in the East. Brad might be able to do some work against him on defense, but then that might lead to Brad getting too many crunch time minutes – as has been Vinny’s custom.
Derrick should be able to torch Rafer Alston on defense, and not have to worry about getting lit up by him on defense, though, so that’s a bonus. However, Dwight should be able to cancel a lot of Derrick’s penetration because he’s such a dominant presence in the paint.
Courtney Lee is a very, very solid defender and his length might give Ben problems scoring the ball. If Ben can’t score, chances are the Bulls can’t win.
An injured Salmons and an injured Hedo is pretty much a wash.
Van Gundy can coach circles around Vinny.
So yeah, I’m not encouraged by this matchup, but matching up against the Celtics wouldn’t be any better.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
with your permission (or not)
I’d like to just copy all of this in my ‘Bulls are doomed you morons’ playoff preview.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go for it. anything I can do to sober people up around here that are drunk on our late season
success. This team is not winning a playoff series. There will be some fun moments and Derrick will grow. Tyrus and Joakim will electrify at least once or twice, but ultimately we don’t have the coaching or the talent to match up with either the Celtics or the Magic, so we should just enjoy the ride and not get too caught up in believing we’re going to win a series.
I know what is, in all likelihood, going to happen, but it doesn’t mean I won’t enjoy watching the games and those moments when the Bulls make me proud.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn you, I was just starting to fall for the drunken clamor and think the Bulls could steal a game
or at least keep it close at the UC. Oh well, at least it’s getting nice outside so I’ll have plenty of excuses to not watch
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on Apr 15, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can certainly steal a game, and I actually kind of expect them to get just one
at home, but anyone who thinks they are taking the Magic to 7 games or winning the series outright is fooling themselves.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 15, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we get Orlando, I see different player matchups
1. I think we’re better off putting TT on Hedo and Salmons on Lewis. If Hedu is as ready to go as the link above suggests, he will eat Salmons alive with his size. Netrualizing Hedu is more important than Lewis b/c the former is a much better passer and will warrant extra attention if Fish is on him. Orlando is really tough when they’re knocking down 3s, and I think Salmons can do a better job on Lewis than he can on Hedu. Further, TT is not as effective if he’s assigned to someone who will stay on the perimeter….he has a tendency to drift towards the paint and that will kill us if he’s on Lewis.
2. This is dicey, but I don’t think we should put Derrick on Rafer Alston. Derrick’s problems on defense are primarily against the pick n roll. I think he’s fine keeping a man in front of him….its the pick n rolls where he allows himself to get wiped out by the picker and gives ball handler room to come around and suck in the defense with penetration. IMO, Rafer is actually better in the pick n roll than Nelson (though not a better player overall) and may give Derrick problems. The flip side is Derrick gets to conserve energy by guarding Courtney Lee who isn’t likely to have plays called for him.
In general, I think the key to playing Orlando is defending the pick n roll and limiting our own turnovers to prevent transition. Derrick’s our worst pick n roll defender, so VDN should do everything to keep him away from such scenarios.
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
by PeteRoc on Apr 15, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
That game pissed me off so bad as a bulls fan..for some reason I thought it was for .500. Nevertheless, I hope we get the job done (and fuk shyt up!)
It's tough to be around competitive situations . . . but I've been able to manage. I've been able to survive. (GOAT)
by Belize on Apr 15, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to see us win today
Maybe we can prove to Bosh that we are the best team for him in 2010… Just kidding. But we should win this. We can stop our run now. Keep winning and then think about the Magic. Without Turkoglu and Nelson, maybe we’ll have a chance
by bull83 on Apr 15, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is this the game thread?
Brad Miller's pump fake is still not on the scouting report?
by SoulEater7 on Apr 15, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sure?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 15, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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