Hope Our Players Read this. Let's shut up ESPN
by majoyenrac on Mar 31, 2009 8:15 AM CDT
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PrintFROM Today's Daily Dime:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-090331
By Brett Hainline | Queen City Hoops/TrueHoop NetworkWEDNESDAY, APRIL 15
Raptors at Bulls: Playing at the same time as Charlotte, the Bulls go into the game knowing they must win to have a chance. All the Raptors are playing for is pride (and a new contract for Shawn Marion). The battle of '06 lottery picks in Bargnani and Tyrus Thomas is lopsided and the Bulls win. Bulls win (39-43, 0.5 games ahead)
Bobcats at Magic: The Magic have the 3-seed wrapped up and cannot catch the Celtics for 2; Orlando's starters play less than a quarter each and the Bobcats knock off the Magic bench for the playoff-clinching win. Bobcats win (39-43, tied for 8th -- Bobcats own tie-breaker with 2-1 season series edge)
Editor's note: We asked Brett Hainline of Queen City Hoops to spell out exactly how the Charlotte Bobcats, who stand two games behind the Chicago Bulls for 8th place in the Eastern Conference, might make the unlikely leap out of the lottery and into their first playoff berth. Here is their potential path to the playoffs:
With nine games remaining, the Bobcats have matched their franchise record for wins and would seem a lock to set a new record that is at least a couple tallies higher. This Charlotte team has beaten the Lakers and the Celtics. They've gone 5-2 in overtime games, showing improvement in clutch time where they used to fade. The Bobcats will have a winning record at home. But the season will still be a bit of a disappointment ...
If they don't make the playoffs. That is what the expectation around the Queen City became when Larry Brown was brought on as coach. Those expectations were ratcheted even higher with the various trades throughout the season that made the Bobcats a more complete (and more Larry Brown-ish) team. Barring Gerald Wallace's midseason rib-adjustment, they have been relatively healthy and improvement has been evident. But it hasn't been enough to draw the city in -- they want Cleveland (or Boston) in CLT for a couple of extra dates after the players would normally be on the golf course. And here is how that happens:
TUESDAYLakers at Bobcats: 5-1. The Bobcats' record in their last 6 against the Lakers. Make it 6-1 with a payback game after the last one ended with Gerald Wallace in the hospital. Bobcats win (34-40, 1.5 games back)
Bulls at Pacers: Chicago has but 12 road wins this season and cannot add to it playing in a building where Boston, Atlanta, the Lakers, Houston, Miami, Orlando, Cleveland ... you get the idea ... have lost already this season. Bulls lose (36-40, 1 game ahead)
WEDNESDAY
Bobcats at Celtics: What goes up must come down -- the Bobcats do not have enough in the tank to travel to Boston and win following the game against the Lakers the night before. Bobcats lose (34-41, 1.5 games back)
FRIDAY
Heat at Bobcats: Dwyane Wade nearly comes up with a triple-double, falling just short in ... turnovers. Wade has a season high of 8 against the Kings had a 5 turnover game against Charlotte earlier this season. Bobcats win (35-41, 1 game back)
SATURDAY
Nets at Bulls: Brook Lopez goes for 30 and 15 in his late rush at the ROY trophy. Bulls lose (36-41, 0.5 games ahead)
SUNDAY
Bobcats at Pistons: Rasheed Wallace sees Larry Brown on the sideline and reverts back to championship form, leading the Pistons to victory. After the game, he also goes back in time, only answering "Both teams played hard." Bobcats lose (35-42, 1 game back)
TUESDAY, APRIL 7
76ers at Bobcats: The Cats won in Philly a week and a half prior by out-rebounding the Sixers by 18. This time they do it by winning the battle of the boards by 10 and matching Philly in turnovers -- a problem for Charlotte against Philly, as they have averaged over 17 a game against them this season. Bobcats win (37-41, 0.5 games back)
Knicks at Bulls: Derrick Rose shows Mike D'Antoni what he missed out on by not waiting for the lottery results. His 25 points, 8 assists, and 5 rebounds carry the Bulls over the Knicks. Ben Gordon is seen crying at his locker after the game, mumbling something about seven seconds or less and a big payday. Bulls win (37-41, 1 game ahead)
THURSDAY, ARPIL 9
76ers at Bulls: The 76ers' pressure defense gives Rose fits (he has averaged 4 turnovers against Philly this season) and the Bulls cannot overcome all the fast break opportunities for Philadelphia. Bulls lose (37-42, 0.5 games ahead)
FRIDAY, APRIL 10
Bobcats at Thunder: With Kevin Durant on the court, the Thunder have a defensive efficiency of about 110. Even the Bobcats can score against defense like that. On the other end, Gerald Wallace make life tough on the league's future scoring leader and shows the kind of all-around game Durantula should learn to emulate. Bobcats win (37-42, tied for 8th)
SATURDAY, APRIL 11
Bobcats at Bulls: The Bobcats will have to contend with a late-night flight from a cornfield in the middle of Oklahoma while the Bulls have been sleeping at home after their Thursday game in the Windy City. Bobcats lose (37-43, 1 game back)
MONDAY, APRIL 13
Bulls at Pistons: Detroit remains in a precarious spot at 7th in the East, rarely more than a game or 2 ahead of the Bulls/Bobcats in 8th. For the two teams, all 3 games this year have gone to the home team -- the Pistons make it all 4. Bulls lose (38-43, 0.5 games ahead)
Bobcats at Nets: Through his UNC connections, Michael Jordan gets the Tar Heels to honor Vince Carter at halftime of this game ... in Chapel Hill. Vince is at the airport for the duration of the game, and the Bobcats capitalize. Bobcats win (38-43, tied for 8th)
Let's use this as motivation. I mean surely we'er better than 2-5 through our last remaining games. I know we laid an egg through 3 qtrs last game, but I swear they didn't watch us again. The Pistons should be most afraid of losing the 8th spot, not the Bulls.
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the bobcats are miserable on the road
and i am hard pressed to believe the bulls will go 2-5 with all but 2 games at home, where they are 24-12 and that the bobcats will defeat the lakers, heat, and @ orlando, even on the last day of the season.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
This analysis is ridiculous
Despite the fact that we have Vinny and the coach could cost us a game or two, like we saw against Toronto, this analysis can only be a joke. And a bad one. The Bulls have the sixth best record of the conference at home. But still are going to lose against the Nets (15-22 on the road) and the 76ers (16-20 on the road)… This is just ridiculous. Plus: the guy thinks the Bobcats will win all the home games. I bet they lose the first one today, against the Lakers
thinking about it now
i guess this guy is sort of proposing what would need to happen for them to make it. i don’t know how realistic even the writer thinks this is.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
I just don't understand why
We are picked on here when we’ve been playing much better of late. I mean aren’t the Pistons losing losing losing, I seem to recall them going 15-26 since week 10 of the year, meanwhile we’ve been 20-18 and playing far better since the trade……while they continue to be up one down 4…..
I could see picking ont he Pistons a bit, Curry’s more lost than Vinny believe it or not…..but after we showed some heart to get back into that game against the Raptors, I don’t get it….we’re not the same team we were 2 months ago.
agreed, and even a week or so ago
people were picking the bobcats, even with our great home record and their bad road record. it kind of floored me…
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
I do agree
But we are also in 8th right now, and are the team that was most recently out of the playoff picture.
The analysis is stupid, but given it’s been Bulls v. Bobcats for 8th for the past while, it doesn’t surprise me.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Chalk up this pile of crap to a slow day of NBA news.
There were very few games last night and not much to write about this morning. Either way, this is a bunch of nonsense.
lets hope our players wouldn't dream of giving a shit about this.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 31, 2009 9:15 AM CDT reply actions
Why
After we lay an egg to start the 2nd game in a row, maybe we need some motivation, even from an ESPN idiot.
Again, he should pick on the hapless Pistons, who are playing like crap.
also, this is meant to read somewhat facetious
so…you all are dopes.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 31, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions
What are they blogging from the future in Bristol?
This “story idea” is retarded…
I usually enjoy Henry by himself but lately it’s getting a little goofy…well with things exactly like this.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
They also have stupid
things about Phoenix’s playoff chances on ESPN. They’re just trying to drum up excitement for the almost nonexistant races for the last spot in the playoffs.
"Worker bees can leave.
Even drones can fly away.
The Queen is their slave."
I don't get it though
I mean last I looked Chicago is a bigger market than either Phx or Detroit and has a stronger NBA fan base accross the country….
what the heck are you talking about?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 31, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
What do you mean
We’re a big fan base that’s been dying to be a contender for 10_ years…..not sure why you’re confused…
I don't know what the fanbase has to do with anything
with this ‘piece’, or an editorial ESPN.com decision.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 31, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
i think he understood jpchi's point
to mean that they were trying to get markets excited to watch thier respected teams play and he didnt understand why they would diminish chicago when chicago is a far greater market than the rest of those cities. Sort of like this article was more to drum up sales for each city for thier respected teams (like a giant publicity stunt).
If im wrong majoyenrac i apologize, but i think thats where you got your idea from.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
ugh, maybe it's just someone writing what they think?
And nothing to do with some grand ESPN conspiracy to hurt us. and this was meant to be a fun piece anyway. I hope Brett never finds this thread.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 31, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh back at you
i actually dont care about the article, i also didnt scroll down at the time either so i didnt know that the whole thing was explained until after i posted., i was just attempting to explain where i thought majoyenrac’s thoughts about markets came from. I was trying to be helpful…but was probably piss poor at it…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
That was my intention
I actually skim read the trash on the dime and posted here because I was outraged…..as a loyal Bullsfanologist….
That's not what I intended...
…but whatevs…doesn’t really matter
"Worker bees can leave.
Even drones can fly away.
The Queen is their slave."
Why wouldn't they
rather bring up Chicago’s potential, a big market team, a young team with the ROY on board, that’s coalescing, and instead continually focus on small market teams like the Blazers (there was a poll last week asking if the Blazers were the most exciting team in the NBA?, with like a 20% saying yes)….or the Bobcats who aren’t followed much in their local area, let alone nationally….
I'm
thinking of creative phrases for you right now, actually.
But the only polite one is:
Go away.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Isn't Queen City Hoops a Bobcats blog? Wasn't the guy writing this a Bobcats blogger
on the TrueHoop ESPN network? So we’re supposed to be outraged that a Bobcats homer facetiously dreamed up a scenario where the Bobs catch the Bulls? Or, worse, the Bulls players are supposed to be outraged about it?
That’s like saying “hey I ran into this Bobcats fan at the bar and he was ranting about how the Bulls were going down into the lotto, our players better be outraged! and show that guy what’s what!” It’s just remarkably silly.
Stats with contextual observations, good. Stats with no context, bad. Anecdotal observations unsupported by data, the worst.
by fundamentallysound on Mar 31, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
exactly
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 31, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't nkow that
And didn’t know that, not a blog expert. Why though would ESPN put this in their daily dime crap….
You're not a blog expert
But it clearly says “Queen City Hoops/True Hoop Network”. Who knows why they put it in their Daily Dime, maybe no one gives a shit about the Bobcats and they were looking to bump up the page views of a partner blog.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 31, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Still pisses me off
That the Bulls get absolutely no ESPN love….. I know we were crap last year but even then it took until the offseason after the Heat ousting before Chicago (a big market team on the rise) really started to get some good press….
Why oh why do we have to see Skiles or D’Antoni in COY debates? I know Scott’s at least got something out of them despite the injuries….but what’s D’Antoni done since Jan? Lose….as Duhon faded quickly back to obscurity. I like D’Antoni, but that’s annoying….
Why does a Salmons traded to the Bulls might be the best trade at the deadline have to be countered wtih a (showing what little moves there were made at the deadline)—haven’t they watched Salmons, he’s been a real player since being a Bull (not that he wasn’t before, but he’s really been a boost).
I hope we surprise….I’m sick of this crap.
Who cares what ESPN thinks?
If the Bulls become actual contenders again I’m sure the parrots on the network will say as much.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 1, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
here you go
ESPN.com putting Tyrus in the conversation of DPotY, something he has no business being a part of. Midwest bias!!!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 1, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Well there ya go.
I’m surprised TOny Parker still doesn’t get more love. I mean I like DWill and do think he’s better overall than Parker at least can be, but Tony Parker’s having an amazing year and should be top 5 in MVP voting because of it…..
3-31-09: The date when the last relative Vinny supporter knows he NEEDS to be canned. Fire Vinny, Fire Bickerstaff, hire a new head coach and keep Del Harris as the head assistant. Jerry, a player with Rose's skills and upside don't come around often.
Tony Parker is not having a better season than
LeBron, Wade, Paul, Bryant, or Dwight Howard.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 1, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
Top 6 (forgot Paul oddly). He’s not far off them though….
3-31-09: The date when the last relative Vinny supporter knows he NEEDS to be canned. Fire Vinny, Fire Bickerstaff, hire a new head coach and keep Del Harris as the head assistant. Jerry, a player with Rose's skills and upside don't come around often.
except Tony Parker can't guard anyone. He's just as bad as Nash defensively.
The Spurs make up for it because they are the Spurs, but he’s a lousy defensive player.
Stats with contextual observations, good. Stats with no context, bad. Anecdotal observations unsupported by data, the worst.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 2, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I totally agreed in the past
But Parker’s playing out of his mind right now…..that was the reason I never thought of Tony P as anything more than a lucky to have Timmy D next to him in the past….but he’s been crazy good downt he stretch.
3-31-09: The date when the last relative Vinny supporter knows he NEEDS to be canned. Fire Vinny, Fire Bickerstaff, hire a new head coach and keep Del Harris as the head assistant. Jerry, a player with Rose's skills and upside don't come around often.
His unbelievable season this year has nothing to do with
an improvement on defense. He’s just gone to a whole other level on offense, which certainly helps offset his lousy D, but he still is lousy on D.
Fire Vinny.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 4, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
But he's destroying his competition....
3-31-09: The date when the last relative Vinny supporter knows he NEEDS to be canned. Fire Vinny, Fire Bickerstaff, hire a new head coach and keep Del Harris as the head assistant. Jerry, a player with Rose's skills and upside don't come around often.
Wait......what the hell is the problem here?
No one on ESPN wrote this, some Bobcats blogger who is part of the True Hoop network did. NBA players don’t even read the papers sometimes to avoid what people say about them, I’m pretty sure they aren’t going to True Hoop for link dumps.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
If Bulls players wanted to really get upset
they should read BlogABull
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 31, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't really want my favorite team to be turning suicidal
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 31, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not?
It’d be fun to watch! Like the Knicks! Or the Clippers!
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
We almost where there last year
Where we were more exciting to find out the crap off the court, than to watch the basketball on the court.
Even so, it's really obviously just for laughs.
Look at the last game the Bobcats have to win:
“Bobcats at Nets: Through his UNC connections, Michael Jordan gets the Tar Heels to honor Vince Carter at halftime of this game … in Chapel Hill. Vince is at the airport for the duration of the game, and the Bobcats capitalize. Bobcats win (38-43, tied for 8th)”
majoyenrac … causing trouble.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
yeah, i'll be honest, i didn't read it very carefully or pay attention to the author
that is pretty silly lol.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Silly indeed, like Jordan would even know the Bobcats were playing the Nets
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Yeah, he's got better things to do
like playing golf while burning a stack of hundreds with his cigar, laughing maniacally.
I picture Jordan now as a Howard Hughes-type.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
Celtics making a bit of a comeback right now
But man Bobcats are a good example of discipline and structure.
Too bad we basically rely on talent only.
Our talent >>> Bobcats
Our coach <<<<<<<<<<<[at this point assume my < key is broken] Bobcats
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
Bulls basketball
Where pining after Larry freakin’ Brown happens.
Stats with contextual observations, good. Stats with no context, bad. Anecdotal observations unsupported by data, the worst.
by fundamentallysound on Apr 2, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I prefer 'Where pining after Joe Triano, soon to be ex-interim head coach of the Toronto Raptors, a team that fell out of the playoffs despite having an All-Star and a couple borderline All-Stars happens'.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
I still think
If you have an elite PG and an allstar on a team it should make the playoffs. And they still have enough talent.
Thats why I kinda feel that Calderon is a borderline elite. But they do have injuries and he does nail a three in our face whenever I say this.
No
Calderon’s an excellent, all star quality PG. Problem with the Raptors are that 2, 3, and 5 were awful….not just ok, but awful. They need one of those 3 to be solid….maybe Marion would help if he stayed (not likely though, and Marion’s been exposed a bit anyway).
I mean Moon’s athletic, but has pretty low bball IQ….Kapono—despite some strange BaB love from time to time, is just a bad bad player who can shoot, but that’s it….O’Neal was too often injured to give them the support they needed down low……
3-31-09: The date when the last relative Vinny supporter knows he NEEDS to be canned. Fire Vinny, Fire Bickerstaff, hire a new head coach and keep Del Harris as the head assistant. Jerry, a player with Rose's skills and upside don't come around often.
Its pretty much like how I wasn’t sure about Salmons. I knew he was likely to prove me wrong just couldn’t help being skeptical until I saw him again consistently. Because of all those years with the Sixers and those teams. Hard to believe how much hes improved.
I dunno who it was…David Aldridge or someone. Putting Calderon in company of like Paul/Williams/Nash etc but I may have misunderstood. I mean he is elite but the top I’m just not sure.
But honestly I haven’t seen Calderon as much as I’ve been hoping too. I’m sure he’ll prove me wrong again the next Bulls game they always do.
I think the Kapon love may have died after Gordon saved us a couple of dozen more times. Though won’t be surprised if it comes back.
O’neal isn’t looking bad tonight. He was actually keeping the Heat in it a bit.
Hmm now Raja just got injured……. woah Shawn May is still in the NBA??
“Marion’s been exposed a bit anyway” ?
Like when he blocked Tyrus under the basket at the end of regulation last game, ensuring the OT?
Or how about his last game in MIA?
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Yeah
Big frickin deal, a guy who 2 years ago people seriously were saying was in Lebron’s level, and completely underrated is now shown tha he’s pretty average….not bad, but not looking anywhere close to Bosh’s or Calderon’s league, and is being passed around for it in a contract year no less.
He’s a guy who should have stayed with D’Antoni….add that he’s been a malcontent behind the scenes in Phx, then Miami and so far in Toronto, and there you go….
3-31-09: The date when the last relative Vinny supporter knows he NEEDS to be canned. Fire Vinny, Fire Bickerstaff, hire a new head coach and keep Del Harris as the head assistant. Jerry, a player with Rose's skills and upside don't come around often.
He's an awesome second banana-type guy,
but that’s all he is.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
After watching Cats beating Lakers and losing to Celts only on last second
of double overtime.This thing is not so silly.
Bobcats still have a very difficult schedule but if they play like this all the way to the end ,and Bulls lose (wierdly and unexpectedly) to Cats and let say Nets(who beat Detroit tonight) and lose in Detroit(most likely), then we done.
So with the “coach” we have and a coach they have I won’t relax till The Bulls mathematicly out of reach for bobcats.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Yes. .. at this point it's Larry Brown with a measurable goal (8 games) as the dangerous genius coach against VDN as our hapless rookie coach..
I won’t put money on this one regardless of schedules..
Plus Bulls don’t play defense …..
man up!
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