Bulls 112, Pacers 106
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 28, 2009 3:29 PM CDT
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Printwoo woo woo Tyrus Thomas. Only 3 blocks away (um...and 2 rebounds) from the Reggie Miller triple double.
I was worried that this would be one of those games where everyone's hungover and the Bulls blow it. But no!
I suppose that can still happen tomorrow, plus it's a road game. But the Raps have likely given up on their season, so the Bulls have a distinct advantage in the motivation department.
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Always staying positive!
I like it!
ROSE DRIVES TO THE HOOP...
its like a comb through Vinny's hair.
More like never
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
I know :D
But this was close to being positive.
ROSE DRIVES TO THE HOOP...
its like a comb through Vinny's hair.
Reposting my thoughts from the end of the previous thread:
I know Comcast gave player of the game to Salmons, and Gordon scored the most points
but, to me, Tyrus was the clear player of the game.
18 points on 10 shots, 8 boards (2 offensive), 1 assist, and 7 blocked shots and ZERO turnovers in 32 minutes.
His defense was incredible and he put points on the board efficiently. That’s very impressive. Plus, zero turnovers might be the most impressive stat of all.
The whole Bulls team did a good job of hanging onto the ball tonight, just a 10.0% TO-rate tonight (save for Salmons who had 5 turnovers, but it was a fast paced game, and he played 40 mins, so meh).
Stats with contextual observations, good. Stats with no context, bad. Anecdotal observations unsupported by data, the worst.
by fundamentallysound on Mar 28, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions
Thomas was the Harris Player of the Game on the radio.
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what about him?
He’s a fine player, but he doesn’t play for the Bulls and he didn’t play in this game. So what was your point exactly?
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by fundamentallysound on Mar 28, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
he's a blazer's fan
but really cool, obviously
roy is not/never will be mvp.
by wennington4 on Mar 28, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
LMA
Can’t do half of what Tyrus can do. He can shoot the jump shot and get some boards, but I guarantee if he played without ROy, he’d be doing far less..
Is almost as good as Elton Brand.
Yeah, let’s run up and down the court! It’ll be like how Brand fit into the 76ers!
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
Agreed
Tyrus’s block at the end reminded me a bit of what Chandler used to do time and again for us in BG’s breakout rookie season, and Tyson never got that acknowledgement….but Tyson never had a game like Tyrus had for us today…he was spectacular, and his D on Granger when he was on Granger was great….
I keep seeing that play in the first half where Granger was ahead of our defense, could have driven in for an easy two, but for some reason stayed at the 3 pt line and took a needless shot that he missed, as really the time where that game was lost. I mean he’s a good player, but that was a really stupid play……we already were starting to take back this game, and I think that was their last real hurrah to get the momentum….granted there was still a half to play, but that’s one of those little plays that could have really changed the entire game.
I didn’t think we played well, sans Tyrus really…..but we played well enough to win (Brad Miller played well too). Other guys hit some shots, but BG and Salmons were awful on defense for much of the game….
The Raptors gave up on their season when it started.
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
I'll Drink to that!
i’m hungover from last night but man this game was the pick-me-up i needed! PLUS the game’s gunna be on WGN tomorrow F YEAH!
Lamarcus Aldridge who??? (he’s kinda soft anyways IMO)
WGN America means I don't have to watch a blobby feed. Yays!
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So it's like everyone was hungover, but they managed not to blow it?
Most of the team played better than I expected for an afternoon game.
I’ve been watching Kirk for almost 10 years, and I don’t recall him ever shooting good in an early game.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Sue let him out of his shackles early this morning.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 28, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
that made no sense
Kirk shot cruddy again this afternoon. Um…forget what I said, I was too eager to dig on Sue.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 28, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
She did let him have his razor back though. There is always that.
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Uhm, yeah
Lest I mislead anyone else with poor phrasing – Kirk had an awful day shooting, which I have come to expect in afternoon games. Thus, while disappointed in his play, I was not surprised.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
But John Salmons is right on with
“kirk hinrich is the best backup point in the league.” so crazy i used to hate kirk so much but he’s a damn good 6th man/ Backup PG
by AFireInside661 on Mar 28, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess we disagree.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 29, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Shooting good in an "early" game - as in this game was before 6:00 pm
Not shooting good early in the game.
And yes, I’m sure there is, somewhere, an early afternoon game that Kirk shot lights out for – hopefully the Toronto game will prove me wrong. ;)
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Stat Machines
I’m beginning to see a hidden reason why the old Suns teams had such great stats. Run a bit, and play with a short bench. Our 7 man rotation are putting up big numbers.
by Bill Cartwright's Elbow on Mar 28, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions
you not counting tim thomas?
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
6 minutes is not exactly what a rotation player gets.
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by fundamentallysound on Mar 28, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
It seemed positive to me. ??
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where is there negative spin?
He made a joke about the Bulls typically blowing these types of games, and being pleasantly surprised that they didn’t.
He then joked about our abysmal road record, but said we probably would have more motivation to win because the Raps season is over.
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by fundamentallysound on Mar 28, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
yes.
and I feel the need for speed. That too.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 28, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha
And if you screw up just this much, you’ll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong
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by Ugh It Live! on Mar 28, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the first 4-game win streak in almost two years
One more da would have been the 2-year anniversary Man the Bulls have been bad
We needed that win. Tyrus was a beast with 7 blocks and almost had a triple-double. I was at the game on Thursday, and Tyrus was interviewed after the game. The interviewer told him that he had just posted his 17th double-double of the season or something like that. Then he jokingly asked Tyrus if he could ever get ten blocks in a game.
Ten blocks in a game sounded ridiculous at the time, but after this game, I really think we’ll be able to see a triple-double from Tyrus within the next year.
rose and ty were both pretty close to having triple doubles
ty needed 2 reb and 3 blocks, rose needed 1 reb and 2 assists. tyrus would obviously have had the more difficult time, but he got 7 here and 8 a different night this season, he could do it.
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Going back through the 86/87 season there
have only been 47 triple doubles including points, rebounds, and blocks. The only players under 6’11" to have one are Larry Nance, Kirilenko, and Ben Wallace (2x). Tyrus can do it, but it will be likely be a once or twice in a career type of thing.
Of those 47 there were 6 by Shawn Bradley, 9 by David Robinson, 9 by Olajuwon, and 10 by Mutombo. No one else had more than Camby’s 3.
The 3 quadruple doubles in that time are of course from Robinson and Olajuwon.
Olajuwon with his two coming only 26 days apart.
What did Duncan in the finals in 2003 I believe?
Didn’t he come up like 2 assists shy of the quadruple double.
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Make that 2 blocks short.
21 points 20 rebounds 10 assists 8 blocks. That was in the game where they finished them off.
He averaged 24.2 PPG 17.0 RPG 5.3 APG 5.3 BPG in that series.
24.7 PPG 15.4 RPG 5.3 APG 3.3 BPG for that entire playoffs.
God, Duncan is a beast.
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Was 2 years ago, too.
We’ll see if he’s still a beast.
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wat about last year
that first playoff game where he hit that 3 pointer blew my mind
The only monster here is the gambling monster that has enslaved your mother! I call him Gamblor, and it's time to snatch your mother from his neon claws!!
Yeah, but he didn't win. :P
Joakim Noah: Better than you.
yea but i think we all knew
that a lakers celtics finals were upon us last season.
The only monster here is the gambling monster that has enslaved your mother! I call him Gamblor, and it's time to snatch your mother from his neon claws!!
He's still better than most big men in the league
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 29, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i wouldn't expect it often
(like prob not in the next year, as sweetneyisfat [- i love the nick, lol] indicated)
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Tyrus only played 31 minutes
Give him 40 minutes, and he might have had 10 blocks.
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easy peasy lemon squeezy
There was an incident a few years ago. The Bulls were killing the Knicks, scrubs were playing out the clock, and the fans were screaming at them to score 100 points for free Big Macs. They took a ton of shots, Knicks took offense and they tried to fight some Bulls players.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST
I think its finally time to admit my mancrush was irrational. TT once again fell 3 short of Reggie's claim that he should be able to average 10 blocks per game.
But seriously folks, is it possible something significant is taking place before our eyes?
The NBA is always looking for a new angle to hype and Tyrus’s freakish athleticism was on display this week which likely didn’t go unoticed by the TNT viewers or the NBA brass.
If he suddenly becomes someone who will cause fans to tune in to watch him do his thing, maybe he will start receiving more star treatment from the officials and the possibility of getting 10 blocks in one game could actually become a reality. If D Wade can trip Kirk right in front of a referee and not get called because of his reputation, whats to stop Tyrus getting credited with blocks instead of goal tends on close calls once his creds are established?
Ir’s amazing that TT had 7 blocks today without drawing even one personal. Has it already started? From a PR stanpoint it would be easy to hype the young Bulls, led by the ROY Derrick Rose and the shotblocking sensation “the human highlight film”, Tyrusss Thomassss!
If the secret orders are passed on from the Commish, this can be the start of a whole new era and resurgance of past glory for the up and coming young Bulls. Or have I just got carried away and maybe it’s time to put away my fantasy bong?
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Clarification The bong actually is "joint"ly owned by our 2 favorite centers.
My delusionary high was caused by fantasy second hand smoke I was exposed to while I was dreaming that the Bulls 1st round playtoff opponent was the Magic and they held Dwight Howard scoreless while the Bulls swept them aided by Tyrus’s 40 blocked shots and D Rose’s 50 assists which included 12 alley oops to you know who.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Mar 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad someone else finally said it!
I have felt the same way since she came into the league,
but dissin’ her is risky business on the “politically correct”
train!
She is in the league for ONE reason, let’s be honest.
Also, maybe my imagination, but she has no love for the Bulls, historically.
Not so evident in the Indiana game.
P.S. Not to piss on the parade here, but, Indiana should NOT have even been in this
game in the 4th quarter. Bulls still need to learn to put away the games they have leads
in. They still don’t defend the perimeter very well, and those easy buckets by T.J. Ford late,
they gotta be better at stopping dribble-penetration late too, Where was the help defense when
Ford was, and yes hold on here guys, blowing past Rose. Sorry, I love the kid, but his D, well,
I expect it to improve a lot over time. He should be getting more blocks too, we know he can, right Andre Miller? :-)
GOOOD WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the kinda game that makes me hope the raptors and the suns wait tell the trade deadline to shop Bosh and Amare. TT has looked great and I would really like to see how he can improve his game over the off-season. I also hope we can resign BG. I hope he realizes that this is a team on the rise and resigns. I think Reinsdorf will realize that BG is to good to let go and spend the extra money. Anyway we now have legitimate shot at the 5th seed which would be amazing. O and dos anyone know if the game is on WGN America tomorrow?
It should be on WGN America
http://www.wgnamerica.com/pages/bulls_schedule
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props to VDN for putting Rose back in the starting lineup
I was expecting him to keep Hinrich in as the starter, but he didn’t.
All Tyrannosaurus are beasts, Tyrus is a beast, therefore Tyrus is a Tyrannosaurus.
From now on Tyrus will be known as T-Rex. T wrecks havoc on the court.
Boston and Orlando, we've beaten them, we know we can beat them, but can we beat them 4 times?
by Juan dela Cruz on Mar 28, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ty has longer arms.
And are those boy bits I see in that picture? Eeew.
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Vinny without options becomes a better coach
Has anyone noticed that the Bulls play much better when the team is down to maybe 8-9 players?.. He can’t substitute and mess up. So the team wins more. Maybe it is time to get excited about this team.
It's cuz Vinny
overcoaches sometimes.
Ya crazy I know.
But it’s true.
He gets matchup crazy and tends to overthink certain things.
But when he keeps things simple and doesnt have as many options all is well
by Edicus2288i on Mar 28, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
It's because
We have a more balanced roster, less guard heavy and now 3 solid big man rotation of Tyrus-Noah-Miller…..we have 3 starting qualtiy bigs playing their correct positions….
That has more to do with it than options. Aaron Gray was completely outmatched and would hurt us far more than his stats would show….
VDN postgame comments...
he spewed a “Kirk gave us a big boost” line. Uhh what?? Was he even watching the same game? Anyway, on to my rant…
I’m happy about the win, but becoming a bit disturbed with a few of trends that I’m noticing (other than the fact that they still stink and should not have struggled to beat this team):
1) Why does VDN feel the need to try to create a timed sub pattern now? In the last several games, he’s been inserting the first subs around the 5:00 min mark of the 1st and 3rd quarters. It’s not serving a purpose. It’s like he woke up one morning and thought to himself “hmmm, I know what…I’ll sub guys at timed intervals! Sloan used to do it with Stockton, and it worked there, they’re both hall of famers, it HAS to work!” He’s trying to coach again instead of just letting things happen. Which brings me to point 2…
2) Why does VDN feel the need to always sub in both Kirk and Miller at the same time? It’s the same thing every game now. Around the 4 or 5 min mark, both Kirk and Brad come in for Ben and Noah. Ben is a shooter/scorer, he needs to get into a rhythm…playing for the first 6 or 7 minutes and then getting yanked for no reason helps his game in no way, shape, or form. It also puts unneeded pressure on him to try to score or get shots up because he knows that he only has a few minutes before he’s coming out. Bad effects all the way around. Which brings me to point 3…
3) Does Salmons pass the ball to Ben? Ever? I’m not saying…but I’m just saying…
4) This is more of an “all season long” trend, rather than a “last few games” trend…but Stacey King and Neil Funk really suck big time. They needlessly picked on Ben for the entire 1st quarter/1st half. King kept saying that Ben was getting “torched” by Rush, but that was not the case. Of his first 6 shots, only 2 of those were with Ben guarding him. There were several switches that happened. Then as Rush continued to “torch” everyone else, abusing both Salmons and Kirk, nothing was said.
Gah…watching this team and everything that goes along with it can be so frustrating…even when they win…
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Yeah
And I seemed to see Salmons picking up Rush more often in the switches and getting demolished by him early…..while John’s been solid defensively since the trade, he was really at fault early in this game…..but he made up for it later on when we needed those 3’s.
Not a great Salmons game though, but still better than avg….what a player he’s been—even on a bad night, he does enough to look good.
well, he came through at the right time at least
even though he had been struggling a bit
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i think 3) should just end at
pass the ball? ;)
no really, he had 0 asst this afternoon… he did have 5 on thurs though.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
heh, true...
but I literally counted how many times he passed the ball to Ben today (I know, I know)…and I came up with a big fat zero. And I’m not talking assists, just regular passes in order to move the ball around. Dude is like an ultra black hole…
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by NormVanBeer on Mar 29, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
he is.
doesn’t matter if he hits 3s like that, but there was a play early where he hit one after standing with the ball for 5 seconds with a man on him, and Stacy says it was a good shot within the offense.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 29, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, stacey claims all of john's shots are within the offense
i don’t understand it…
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
anyone else think
of how hibbert was supposed to be our guy before he stayed in the draft another year?
i’m so glad we have noah.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
er, before he stayed in school another year
too late for me to type properly, lol.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Umm
this headline is Bulls defeat Toronto Raptors… i didn’t know KC could tell the future.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Hope he's right
Maybe he did what Bif did in Back to the Future Part 2…..now I wonder if we’ll see a KC Johnson casino/hotel
About re-signing BG
They really have to. Think about it.
There just are not that many guys in the league
with as pure of a shot as BG. The three threat he gives
them, really good FT shooter, these things eclipse the
occasional turnover or forced shot. Yeah, I know, he can
make us crazy sometimes, but 20 a game is 20 game.
BG has been pretty much of a pro through it all too. Accepting and
thriving in a reserve role, and actually getting more assists than ever before too.
COACHING! If VDN used BG correctly, and with the right guard combo, he would be
even more effective. At times VDN seems completely oblivious to the “HOT HAND” and takes
out guys who are lighting it up. The trade really helped, and now imagine a REAL coach next year!
Not only are that many guys in the league with as pure of a shot as BG
only one player has scored more 3s in their first five years
TT's last three games...
18-8-7(blocks)
15-12-3(blocks)
18-12-5(assists)
But I thought Tyrus’s improvement was merely a statistical anomaly? At least, that’s what many were arguing when the Amare(tina) trade was under discussion.
Or could it be that Tyrus simply plays well when he is consistently allowed to play a significant number of minutes?
"We're gonna hire a motherf*cking coach with NO experience? Not as an NBA head coach, not as an NBA assistant, not as an assistant’s assistant, not as a college coach, not as a high school coach, not as f*cking grade school coach, not as a coach of the Lovabulls, not as a coach of the towel boys, not even as a coach of a dynasty on Playstation. Nothing. Really? Really, Pax?" - 1958ChiTown's Initial Reaction to the Hiring of Vinny Del Negro, posted on June 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM.
I agree TT + minutes = Impressive statistics
Thomas had 18 pts, 8 boards and 7 blocks in only 31 minutes against the Pacers. Projected over 39 minutes they show 22/10/9.
Do we really need TiT taking minutes from TT while his confidence level is sky high?
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by Tyrusmancrush on Mar 29, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
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