(UPDATE: X-rays negative) Deng out for season?
by gocubs40 on Mar 1, 2009 4:19 AM CST
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[From the fanposts -ed.]
When Bulls forward Luol Deng didn't start the third quarter on Saturday, the team called the problem a tibia bone contusion.
Following the game, a more serious possibility was raised. X-rays showed that Deng might have a stress fracture in his lower leg and could be lost for the season. He'll have an MRI exam Monday to further assess the damage.
"It's been bothering me maybe three or four weeks," Deng said. "I thought it was just a sprain. I had a play in the first half where I jumped up and I felt it. I'm not in pain. When I'm walking, when I get on my toes or I'm jumping, I feel it in there a little bit. But I thought it was just a bruise, but it stayed there."
"We've got to wait and get results, but it doesn't sound very good and that's a huge blow to us," he said. "Hopefully it's not and hopefully we can get him back as soon as possible."
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That sucks...
But that makes me very glad we traded for Salmons….
I feel a lot more comfortable with him starting the rest of the season than I would have with Nocioni.
Trade for Amare. Keep Deng and Rose. Figure out the rest later.
Salmons,
will have a huge impact on this team, he is always in the mix, is quick, and can shoot. I might not have made it through the season with noc starting and getting 35 a game. The only think i’m worried about now is who will play behind our starters, wish we had thabo still but we can hopefully find a cheap vet minimum that can maybe keep us under the tax (LT expert?)
I was hoping we could trade Deng in the summer. Not going to happen if he doesn’t come back this season.
We better hurry and sign someone to back up Salmons at the three.
Otherwise were going to see alot of Kirk at the three.
"Rest satisified with doing well and leave others to talk of you as they please"
You're looking at it the wrong way
Rather than go small, now we can “go big”
Hinrich, Salmons, Tim Thomas, Noah, Miller FTW!
Thomas is hurt also,
and do you really want Thomas guarding LBJ or PP.
"Rest satisified with doing well and leave others to talk of you as they please"
If we use him as a backup at SF
that will not happen as much. When LBJ or PP are out on the floor we could have Salmons out there and when their not then have TiT
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
I would rather play Tyrus Thomas at 3.
If we are going big…Tim Thomas still does not need additional minutes…though I suspect since he is Vinny’s buddy, he will get some time there…
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
So he’s been playing on a stress fracture for a month, thinking it hurt, but no one took a look at it?
Luol Deng, you are not a smart man.
heh
that was my reaction as well. Fred Tedeschi, you’re better than that!
http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/
Tedeschi almost killed Paul Shirley by not detecting something wrong with him.
Chicago Bulls Blog and Forums. NBA Power Rankings.
It doesn't matter if he's smart
he has character
toughness, grittiness, heart
$72 million!!!#@1jk djvb.dzjkvcf;lkjkjfefvnbx.ksdakj ,M
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
He just said that so we wouldn't be so hard on him for his poor play that past 4 weeks
"Basketball is like religion: many attend, few understand."
Playing on a broken leg for a month.
No one should question Deng’s toughness.
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
It's not like he's Jack Youngblood or anything
Besides, was anyone questioning Deng’s toughness anyway? I’d like for him to be better at basketball, but I’ve never had a problem with his toughness.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
at least there is a reason for his recent poor play.
Maybe we can expect him to return to the level he was playing in January. I would seriously consider banning him from international play if I was the Bulls.
by silentpete on Mar 1, 2009 10:19 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Anyone know anything about the recurrence rate of stress fractures?
It might not be so easy to trade ol’ Luol anymore.
I had a sress fracture in my shin and played football on it for a month, and I have had no recurring
problems with it and I continued to play high school sports for another 2 years and I still play pickup bball pretty regularly with no ill-effects.
Vinny discovers frontcourt by accident. Someone re-smash Gooden’s groin!
- your friendly BullsBlogger
by fundamentallysound on Mar 1, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
My thought exactly...
at least the part about this being perhaps the reason for his poor play this season.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
Exactly
It’d be a real tough sell. But it was something I was thinking about even before we knew what this was. Even tho they arent directly related, until he proves that he can help carry the Bulls while carrying GB on his back, Im not sure he should be doing both.
I'd expect it if I didn't also expect him to get hurt again, too.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
I'm just at a loss for words ...
Still I believe Deng can be oft.. injuried much thru his career?
Because, he’s has fragile hands, wrist, legs and ankles.
He must take time out for target strength training
He needs to spend much time strengthing these parts of his body so
he will be able to endue the physical demands of NBA baseball.
I’m so tired of complaining about Paxson awarding contracts to guys
because he loves their nondescript personalities rather than to him who has produced
consistently (including staying healthy-conditioning) more during his years
on the team.
man up!
Baseball is a long season...
Look out MLB, you had your time on the top, but the steriods finally put you over the edge. Im going to have to look more into this new league the National BASEBALL Association.
Vinny has a new excuse for losses
The absense of one of our captains. Thank god now we have Salmons. A lineup of rose, BG, Salmons, Tyrus and Noah, with Miller and – what the heck – Hinrich coming of the bench, is pretty good
At least that means Gordon won't be hurting for playing time as much, now.
Trade Hinrich or Deng or both for non-guaranteed contracts?
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
I highly doubt Deng is going to leave
I bet Paxson and Del Negro are going to spin this in that he’s been injured this whole year, and that next year he’ll be 100% healthy.
if these two: incompetent and inexperienced,respectively are given that luxury .. then we'll again win about 38-42 games next year
still seaching for answers? assuming we can this year finish playing .500%?
man up!
Injury prone
It’s his body type. He’s African, Sudanese to be exact. Not exactly people of strong stock. Look at Manute Bol, same tribe as Deng. Very tall but stringy and not muscular.
Maybe if Deng was a workout animal like Ben Gordon, he wouldn’t get hurt so damn much
Awesome quasi-sociological/medical analysis
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 1, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
heh
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 1, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you, Jimmy the Greek
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
quickly, somebody get this important info to pax.
but seriously, isn’t deng’s build pretty much the prototypical nba forward?
Cashing checks and having sex.
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Englishmen and Iowian cashed in!
“No, these guys really have great personalities… No really.. Just give them one more chance.. you’ll see”
… John Paxson
two captains of the chicago bulls
Who let the dogs out … roof roof roof roof … take the ball strong to the hole, absorb contact and finish, who along with coach, and GM set the tone from the rest of the teammates….
What’ll happen when we have to play Noc and the Kings
man up!
the dog!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 1, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
It would help if he wasn't playing international ball every summer.
"Rest satisified with doing well and leave others to talk of you as they please"
So he can finish at the rim?
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 1, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
Sure ... over 5'7" white guys
by drew gooden's facial growth on Mar 1, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
They look Asian to me
So more like 5’5
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 1, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
I've seen it before,
but I still love this picture. :D
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
That picture right there.....
just sums up Loul Deng’s career.
I must say
that it’s pretty telling to me there’s not even 50 comments on this news yet, considering the fact that we’re paying this guy $70 mil+. Think it goes to show how unpopular he has become among the hardcore fans. Such a shame.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Well...I guess it's nice
to be able to chalk up his suckiness in the last month to him playing on a broken leg…Almost makes him seem not so soft.
it's Sunday
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 1, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure, but I'm pretty sure if Ben Gordon was out for the season
(or even Tyrus, and of course Derrick), there would be a shitload more comments. Actually, I guarantee it.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Seriously...
People are busy having brunch, shopping at Home Depot and doing laundry…they will be back at “work” tomorrow, and there will be plenty of comments, especially if the MRI shows anything of consequence.
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
Lol at "work" :)
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Deng's X-rays came back negative; he's day-to-day
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
And Tim Thomas?
Boo. :(
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
just cause it wasn't a stress fracture
doesn’t mean he wasn’t injured, though. he was probably right, it was a sprain of some sort… so it was probably still hindering him and he probably shoulda sat a few games instead of playing through it and subsequently playing like crap.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Wheee
That 3/7 from the field production is hard to find these days.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 1, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
I don't understand
Initial X-Ray said there might be a stress fracture and he’ll have an MRI Monday.
Follow up X-Ray said… “negative”.
Shouldn’t we still be waiting on the MRI results?
it confused me too
and the MRI results came Sunday instead of the originally reported Monday.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
ahh just another reason...
that i voted for loul deng to be our public enemy #1
always injured…doesn’t produce
inconsistent with a huge contract
hasn’t improved his game at all for the last few years and he cannot create his own shot
i
agree. He shouldnt be making that much if all he could do is"move without the ball" and not create his own shot.
by aznlildelfin on Mar 2, 2009 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
need i remind people once again
he’s really only being paid like a 2nd or 3rd option. he’s not making max money!!
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Very true
but nobody seems to care. I don’t think his contract is all that awful either.
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -- Michael Jordan
He's being
Paid like a 2nd or 3rd option but playing more like a 4th option behind (Rose, Gordon, and right now Tyrus) and might move down further if John Salmons keeps this up.
That’s a concern that shouldn’t be overlooked.
Overall though I do think Lu-yawn’s tradable….presuming he is healthy and plays to his strengths down the stretch.
He is not being utilized
properly on this team. Coaching perhaps??? I suppose that would require coaching to make that argument…. We don’t really have any.
Lu is not playing at the level he was a couple years ago, but his numbers (imo) are a perfect example of a talented player not having their strengths put to use.
I guess it is all a process….
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -- Michael Jordan
by bennythebull on Mar 3, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
So what?
I am not saying I am a huge fan of Luol, but what you should not be complaining about is that he cannot create his own shot! Sure that would be nice, however we don’t want a bunch of one-on-one players. We want people that can work well with Rose. The biggest complaint about Deng is that his play has not improved with Rose running the show.
Of course as always, this could also be a coaching problem :)
haha.
well it clearly is a coaching issue. luol should have been more involved in the offense from the beginning, cause then he started like crap. then when coming back from injury, he showed he really can work with rose… and the presumably his leg started bothering him and he began playing like shit again.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Luol
Needs to be a more vocal leader on and off the court. I mean he was aggressive a bit at the start of the Houston game and it seemed that Joakim was the leader, padding him on the back for his great effort…..why is Lu-yawn a captain?
because the players vote the captains?
the whole “captain” thing is ridiculous. the other players are the ones voting! if they consider their leaders to be kirk and luol, that’s their business. it’s not some organizational ploy.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Oh I know that
But I’m wanting to see him live up to that vote.
He’s a good player (Luol) I wish he was more aggressive and didn’t tend to dissappear like he does, but when he plays well we’re a much different team.
I just don’t like the fact that he’s still taking a back seat.
So we should expect little to none production from Loul for the rest of the season :(
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Moving Without the Ball
Just wondering, how much does Richard Hamilton make?
...there's some folks that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
according to shamsports,
he’s making almost 11 million dollars this season.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
SUPERSTAR MONEY!!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
He won a title :)
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 2, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
Offensive Scheme (pun intended)
So did Luol become a different player over the past two years, or is his efficacy dependent on the offensive scheme he plays in and how reliably he can be expected to get the ball in the right places in that scheme?
...there's some folks that, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
So the xrays negative as well as the mri huh?
so does this mean hinrich wont get minutes at the 3? Darn…i was looking forward to it too…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
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