Open Thread #51: Chicago Bulls at Dallas Mavericks
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by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously.
Vinny is a retarded basketball mind. The problem wasn’t so much Gordon, it was that there was no help defense in the lane.
If the Mavericks were to have no interior defense, Gordon would score about 80% of the time on Wright. A lot of that scoring was on Tyrus/Noah for being nowhere close to the paint.
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That's because Noah/Thomas fixed what they were doing wrong.
Let’s see what happens if Kirk’s out there with no help interior defense. He’s going to get killed as well. It’s simple basketball.
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Um... you don't need help defense if you keep the guy in front of you.
Help defense is often there to cover one’s mistakes.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
don't mind Andrew, he's just here to make excuses for Ben at every turn
and find fault with everything Kirk does. Which isn’t always a bad thing because Ben > Kirk, but the bias he shows is ridiculous.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
as much as bg needed to play defense there
he does make a point about there being no help defense. i made the same comment while watching.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
If Rose's jumper is going, he won't drive to the rim AT ALL. And that sucks.
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oh, ok
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 7, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
damn Tyrus, stop falling in love with that pound and pound and then step back jumper
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 7:58 PM CST reply actions
for every jumper Derrick Rose makes, I die a little inside because
he’s been relying more and more on that jumper and he’s got to be more aggressive to truly dominate.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:01 PM CST reply actions
He has been taking that jumper just about every time. He has almost completely stopped driving
this is my concern. I realize he can’t drive every time, but he doesn’t drive at all anymore.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Selective vision?
He drives almost as much as a bus driver. Anyways, he’s a 20 year old rook, give him time. His slashing to the lane is practically his bread and butter, I doubt he’ll stop using it.
Not selective vision, the guy has been shooting those floaters and mid-range Js
a lot more frequently as the season has gone on. He’s been cutting out his slashing. He’s a 20 year old rook…so is Russell Westbrook and that motherfucker gets to the line like no one’s business.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Westbrook gets to the line twice as frequently as Rose
I’m not saying Westbrook is better (although he might be when you factor in defense, because Rose is a miserable defender so far), but I’m saying he is a lot better at driving and getting contact and that’s something I really want Derrick to bring to his game. It’s what superstars do.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
I feel you
but its hard to fault him when he’s been shooting over 50%(?) on it on the trip. If he isnt getting to the line anyways its not as bad.
Bad Kirk Bad
HE STACY HIS FOOT WAS ON THE LINE AND HE BRICKED IT
Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together.
Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense.
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your bias is showing.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
You're just not watching the games.
It’s clearly happening. You can see it just by the contrast of when Rose is in there. When Rose is in there, and Gordon is the guy who the play should be going to with a pass, Rose makes the pass.
When Hinrich is in there, he has such a difficult time passing it to Gordon. Larry Hughes? He would make the pass to Gordon if he should have.
There’s a reason why Gordon’s been having a harder time getting the ball since Hinrich’s come back.
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I watch every game. I bought LP Broadband just so I could watch them all.
You are a huge Gordon homer and it’s no secret. Just try to be a little more objective, sheesh. Kirk had an open jumper on the fast break, Ben takes that shot all the time. You can argue that he’s not as good a shooter and so it’s not as good a shot which is true, but when you have that open a look you take it.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
ill agree with this
i didnt like what kirk did both those plays….quick jumper…wtf???? and then he was obviously in trouble…pass it to gordon hes in for that reason…
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man, fuck you Noc
stupid piece of shit getting a tech ruining our momentum. I hate Noc!
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:04 PM CST reply actions
Now how is Andrew supposed to take your advice on objectivity...
…when you exhibit some pretty unobjective bias too?
you're an idiot. and a troll.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 8, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
First of all, my apologies to you.
My posts went way over the line. I should have been more discerning,
Again, I apologize.
Noc's tech completely changed the momentum of the game. What a douchebag.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:07 PM CST reply actions
what's the score?
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 8:08 PM CST reply actions
come on please.... whats the score
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
tnx
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Gordon needs to run harder after a turnover like that.
Put DRose back in.
justintv aint workin for me
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions
What the fuck...
this line-up sucks! Take a fuckin timeout and put Deng and Rose in.
Ben Gordon is getting abused. Carlisle is sending whoever's on Ben down into the post to abuse him.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions
yeah, it's the truth. Carlisle read the scouting report on Ben. He and Derrick are the Bulls worst defenders.
They are taking advantage of it.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
better yet, Noc find a seat on the fuckin' bench.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Dallas's bench, preferably.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
or some random bench in Argentina. Dude needs to GTFO of the league. He sucks.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
looks like it's heading that way.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
nice block TT
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:18 PM CST reply actions
on the previous Mavs possession, Terry abused Derrick by running through
screens and Terry was wide open for the J
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:19 PM CST reply actions
just pointing out Derrick's defensive deficiencies as well as Ben's
I point out the rest of them, these guys aren’t immune from criticism
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
that was a clean block by TT on Singleton
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:20 PM CST reply actions
nope, they called offensive foul
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
oh, tough to pick up on in this forum... my b
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
yea, go Bulls. w00t.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
nice pass Luol and nice shot BG for 3
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:22 PM CST reply actions
I must be behind
But this means I have a 3 pointer to look forward to, right?
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
That play was so bad.
Gordon saw Dampier on him and was like, “Yes, Yes, Yes!”…drives left and the Mavericks were like “No, No, No”.
Gordon needs to realize that the Mavericks remember him kicking their asses for 35 points earlier this year. A lot of that coming from driving. When Ben drives this game, they’re probably going to meet him with some help defense.
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he's in Ben's head, you know, freezing him out and all :-P
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Turnovers
aplenty killing us right now.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Kirk's had a hard time holding onto the ball since he came back
TOs up, FT shooting down. Wish I knew why.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
greasy hands.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
I've wondered that with the TOs
But his shooting has generally looked pretty much like normal, other than the free throws not dropping. Or maybe it’s trying to push the pace more?
Just one of those things I wish I knew the actual answer to…
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
I did notice
towards the end of one of the road games Kirk was done playing and they had his hand wrapped in ice. It must be still swelling on him.
At the Kirk Hinrich Shrine? ;)
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
sure was
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Ben really doesn't turn it over all that much for a guy that handles the ball as much as he does
it’s just that the way he loses the ball is so embarassing. I think at least 75% of his turnovers come from being stripped going to the lane or from just dribbling the ball off of his foot.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
get a fuckin loose ball
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions
yeah that was excellent
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
hes been doing that more
that is interior assists. For most of the year he was only getting drive and kick assists…now hes starting to set players up near the basket a lot more
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Someday
the refs are gonna give Deng his fouls. Hope Rose doesn’t have to wait as long.
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lob to Noah from Derrick. That's what I'm talkin' about!
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:32 PM CST reply actions
10 points and 5 dimes already, yeah...that'll work
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
even more importantly
not all of his assists are from drive and kicks…his court vision is improving
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, the little dump to Deng and the lob to Noah were really nice.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
what a pass by Noah
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:34 PM CST reply actions
Their doing a much better job of getting it back together lately
Didn’t go to pieces when Dallas went on that mini-run
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vdn finally has a somewhat defined rotation
tyrus and noah in particular know they will keep playing even if they make a mistake…that is huge…especially when they dont get nervous after a run
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Tyrus is so good at getting to the line when he goes to the bucket. I love it.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:35 PM CST reply actions
maybe its that he always screams when he gets fouled
so refs will actually call fouls
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
nah, Deng did the same thing and no dice. The refs just looked at him. He shouted "ahhh! and-1!"
but got nothin’.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
its just that he does it every time
im actually positive thats not it…but i like that he does it.
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
So I'm watching Gonzaga and Memphis...
…w/ Jay Bilas and Bobby Knight. What a treat! As much as I dislike Knight and think he’s a tool, he really knows him some basketball.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
how's Tyreke Evans doing? I heard he's good and stuff.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
He's drving at will.
Knight pointed out that he’s going right every time, but Gonzaga isn’t overplaying him that way.
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hmmm, interesting. He'll probably be a lotto pick this year, I'd imagine.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
Well, he's a good combo guard.
He came as a SG, but has been playing PG and doing well. The problem is that he turns it over a little too much to think he’ll be a great PG and doesn’t shoot well enough to be a great SG. He plays really good defense, though. If he can show that he can handle the ball better before the draft, he might be a legit PG prospect and drafted high.
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It never ceases to amaze me how teams always sleep on guys who play great D
when it comes to the draft. Mario Chalmers is a perfect example of this. The guy gave Rose fits in the National Title game and was pretty much a defensive lock every game of the tournament and teams let him slip all the way to round 2. Just remarkably dumb.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
they are largely, wrong
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
I want to see Bobby Knight coach a player like Sprewell.
New meaning to “choke job”! ;)
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Gonzaga could have been a true title contender if a couple of their players were more aggressive.
They’re still really good, but Heytvelt and Downs have the athletic ability and skills to pound inside and drive aggressively, respectively, and their both seniors. But they never developed those parts of their games. And if Daye would go inside, he’d be way better, too.
Alas, they’ll be another Elite 8 team.
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Rose can get whatever he wants on J-Kidd and his creaky knees.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:38 PM CST reply actions
i was excited when i realized that rose was playing against dallas tonight
i kinda expect a 25+ point night…looks like it might happen
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Boxscore-wise Kidd hasn't done crap this game
Does that match the on-court performance?
Man, I hate not getting to watch!
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Noc managed to put up a -7 on +/- for the first half in just 5 mins
I think that +/- that’s unadjusted is largely useless, but still -7 in 5 minutes! God, I hope he leaves this team soon.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions
Number 1 priority the next 2 weeks should be moving him
for practically anything lol
I just don't know who would want him. We keep hearing he has value, but to who? Who doesn't know
that he’s garbage at this point in his career?
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
ya hard to judge
since journalists, fans, and nba writers are all over the map. Can’t tell what GM’s and their scouts think. Something like the Adam Morrison deal might have worked(Noc for Nazr + filler). Just don’t know if Pax sees it that way yet. I think with the right approach you could trade him for something better for us…just not sure how much better.
expiring contract=better
doesnt matter who it is
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i agree that its useless
but god is he bad. Is it a coincidence that we’ve been playing well since giving tt/noah consistent minutes and giving most of noc’s minutes to thabo??
I think not
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
What kind of magic potion has Randolph been injecting?
25 pts, 3 ast, 9 reb after a 35-point night yesterday
he's always been a scorer
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Zach Randolph?
He’s always been capable of those numbers, especially because he’s a black hole and shoots a lot. It’s never been a knock on him that he didn’t have offensive tools, he just won’t pass or play defense. Other than that, he’s great!
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Man, Jersey is just embarrassing Denver!
35 point lead a little over half through the fourth.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
good God, and I thought Denver was a solid team. What got into the Nets?
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
brook lopez happened
hes good…remember when chad ford was saying that robin might be better…its funny when hes wrong…or at least the scouts he talks to are wrong
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
that'll certainly do it
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Why are Bulls
switching on every screen? Noah and Thomas truly do bother Dirk, I think that’s the key to beating DAL. You want to switch sometimes, but Dirk will feast if he knows he’ll get Ben and Derrick to shoot over. I think if they switch a guard, then they need to double him right away. (Isn’t that the book on him since GSW/playoffs?)
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yeah, he hates guys that are athletic and about his size (see: Stephen Jackson)
keep Tyrus locked on him and he won’t do anything. I’d also like that from the standpoint of developing Tyrus because he has that ego about him where if you challenged him to stop the other team’s MVP that I think he’d really respond.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
i agree
but our guards cant get through the screen…bg and derrick are just not good defenders
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Let the other guys beat you
Plus there’s no Devin Harris, no Stackhouse, now J.E.Terry broke his finger….
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'course
I forgot about Barea. Ugh.
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Does Dallas want Hinrich in a trade now?
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
they might this summer
do they have anything to offer tho?
And a 4th foul on Howard.
Dallas getting thin.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
adam morrison is going to the lakers
thats interesting…maybe he can actually get his shot off there
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 8:56 PM CST reply actions
The Denver Massacre has gone final
A 44-point blow out. And Mr. Big Shot and Melo “I am the greatest” both played.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Ben for tres
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:02 PM CST reply actions
Vinny seems to be using TOs much more effectively lately
Whatever he’s doing or saying, or just when he calls them momentum-wise.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
and Derrick didn't use it to go the bucket, instead he shot a jumper, which he bricked.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
i know
but i like the screen…tyrus has to improve in that aspect of his game
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, I'm just complaining about Derrick shooting nothing but J's for most of the game
with the exception of his drive to end the first half.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Now that the team is generally playing well, hard, and on the same page
(just to use all of Vinny’s cliches), they should be able to work on more details like this.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Dirk is en fuego
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
nice follow Noah
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:04 PM CST reply actions
either way
noah…and thats not a slight to tyrus
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
i like that he still considers kidd to be a very good defender
I love it when players grow old and people still think theyre really good…if pippen was still playing do you think stacey would still say hes a great defender even though hes 45?
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
noah is really good
i hope paxson realizes that…well, hes really good when hes in shape…imagine noah ith 20 more pounds of muscle
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply actions
Getting schooled by Barea lol
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
okay, who is guarding JJ Barea...dude is frickin' 5'11" and he's getting into the lane at will
He played at Northeastern. Northeastern!!!!!
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply actions
the megastar
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
where is the much fabled Kirk Hinrich defense? JJ Barea is making him look amateur
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:08 PM CST reply actions
he just got in..
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
and got destroyed as soon as he came in
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
destroyed? he got screened in the corner
JJ missed the layup
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
gotta fight through screens
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
and Barea got fouled
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
when you get screened in the corner and your man zooms baseline, not much you can do
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
great D on that by Noah, there's nothing more you can do when Dirk hits that fade
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:09 PM CST reply actions
Attention: Bulls guards
Beria is not Chris Paul.
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that would have been another dime for Rose, but Noah got fouled
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:10 PM CST reply actions
he needs to be coached on how to properly shoot the ball
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Well I gotta keep one for myself, you know.
The third? I’m torn between world peace and a new home for Noc.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
by wjb1492 on Feb 7, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Kirk got called for an offensive foul there... what did he do? Was it the forearm?
Also, Rose needs to be touching the ball more. They’ve gone away from him a bit, and it’s shown.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:14 PM CST reply actions
Aaron Gray
instant impact
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
why oh why does Vinny always put Hinrich, Noc, and Gray in together? Ugh.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:15 PM CST reply actions
so somewhere some jackass can make asinine comments
about 2 good players +/- being terrible
if i had one wish it would be that grey and noc never play together in the front court
its bad enough when 1 of them plays…but its terrible when theyre paired together. Its almost like giving points to the opposition
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions
it shouldnt be allowed
if i was paxson, i wouldve made vdn sign a contract saying he would never do it
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Gray trying to guard Dirk is just embarassing
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions
yeah, he's not having one of his better games
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Damp hammered Rose and no call.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:18 PM CST reply actions
bad shot by BG leads to a transition bucket for Barea
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:20 PM CST reply actions
Jason who
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
nice take Kirk
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:20 PM CST reply actions
wow... fuck Barea.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:20 PM CST reply actions
how are the Bulls getting abused by a frickin' midget from Northeastern?!?!
This is embarassing.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:21 PM CST reply actions
Need to hit Barea hard every time he drives.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
no one can even stay in front of him, it's ridiculous.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
seriously
not even a legit euro
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
id prefer a simmons/thabo frontcourt
i really would
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
at least that front court would have some freaking athleticism
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
how long till the starters come back?
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
terrible shot Kirk
bad selection, and just ugly ugly looking shot
god Noc sucks
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions
at least you're objective.
Noce goes for 13pts in 4-9 shooting (just under 50%), with 3-4 from 3pt land(!), 6 rebounds and a steal in 22mins of PT and he sucks.
Luol “72M” Deng goes for 10 points in 3-15 (that’s 20%), 5 rebounds, 4 assist, 2 steals and 1 block in 45mins and you have not said a word about him.
Andrew, go on being a Gordon fan. Your blind-love of him is a perfect balance for this guy’s blind-hate.
I commented on his bad game, jesus christ. It was further down. Noc had better numbers
but had his usual terrible defense. Deng did a good job of limiting Josh Howard’s effectiveness, whereas Noc made stupid fouls, including his idiotic technical which ruined our early game momentum and sparked Dallas. Dallas is a team with a history of folding when they get down, but Noc let them back in it when we were up 9 and looked to be pulling away. The dude sucks. He had a solid game statistically, but he was his usual terrible self on D. You clearly didn’t watch the game and just looked at the box score. Stop trolling you frickin’ douche.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 8, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
noc usually takes minutes away from tyrus
and that is why he sucks
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
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Barea new season high? add one to the list.
Deng 3 for 12. Not looking good. Plus Noce guarding Dirk= hopeless disaster.
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no
he had a 20+ point night about a month ago i believe
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
get this fucking unit out before they make the margin such that we can't make it up with our good players. Jesus VDN.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions
BG playing some clutch ass basketball.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply actions
BG should get the trip foul called on himself
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
BG finally got the call when he fell over like that...even though it shouldn't have been a call
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:26 PM CST reply actions
me too. has anyone dropped off from being a league darling to completely forgotten quicker than Josh Howard?
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
dam i love how the bulls have been playing lately...
everytime a team gets on a run..they dont give up…..i love it
Noc finally did something productive
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:27 PM CST reply actions
ok, i take it back.
should have read the entire thread first before reacting to the posts.
Sorry, im reading it in chronological order, pretending today was yesterday. :-)
you're still silent on Deng though.
Could he be your little blind-love toy?
dude, I commented on his bad game further down. you're a huge douchebag. stop trolling.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 8, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Bulls have
about their least “athletic” lineup possible in, just as Howard and Bass enter. Yet it’s a 9-0 (I guess?) run.
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Get Rose and Noah in!!!!!!!!!
If Noce finishes out this game, I’m gonna throw a shit fit
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noc for three
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:31 PM CST reply actions
yea, no one knows how to over-dribble more than Kirk Hinrich
while there’s something to be said for keeping your dribble alive, Kirk just dribbles in place and doesn’t even probe the defense. God I wish he were traded.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
we should iso tyrus more often
his j is good enough to keep the defender honest and he is so quick and has good handles for a pf…however if they ever double him then we’d be in trouble
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions
rose needs to pass that to Gordon
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions
Why didn't Rose pass to Gordon? He was wide open.
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if Ben had better ups, Rose could have thrown the oop easily
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
look up, I said he should have passed it. I'm just saying the pass would have been easier
if it would have been Tyrus or Noah right there instead of Ben. Kidd played that fast break well and Derrick fucked up.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, it would have.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Sefo WIDE OPEN
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
Vinny needs to be like Jackson and call the refs out.
Paxdorf can back him by paying the fine.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
man the Bulls can't buy a call
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:35 PM CST reply actions
its really time to bring noah back in
i mean noc has made some shots…but hes still terrible…its the perfect time to take him out
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It's only a 3 point game.
As long as Rose/Gordon regain their composure and play more calmly we will have a good shot at winning this.
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C'mon Vinnie
Noah on Dirk and Deng in on Howard!
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and Deng entered. No Noah.
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howard is shit
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions
Watching the reply, Howard should have been ejected.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
yeah it was just a complete cheap shot
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Back in the day
Oakley would have made someone pay for that.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
TYRUS
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
barea block on rose??????
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions
man Howard destroyed Roe
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:38 PM CST reply actions
Rose*
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Tyrus J
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:38 PM CST reply actions
lmao
dallas commentators are fawning over T2’s jump shot
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its not that bad
people need to realize that tyrus is a much better jump shooter than hes made out to be…also its important for him to establish that so he can make the d honest
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
this is getting ridiculous
i know barea isnt great…but hes not nearly as bad as hes being made out to be…this shouldnt be such a suprise
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply actions
why is Kirk guarding Dirk? WTF Vinny
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions
BG is out
Here come the cry babies
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
wtf is that supposed to mean
BG is a cry baby or are you saying his supporters are?
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
what are you talking about?
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
he doesn't know.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
Thats what I thought.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Derrick motherf'n Rose
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:41 PM CST reply actions
yeahh......
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
not really...he just has yet to fuck up horribly
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
so true
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
any chance noah comes back
he has arguably been our best player tonight
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:41 PM CST reply actions
Noah has played great tonight, what game are you watching?
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
oh okay, well on that we agree
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
For someone who hasn't scored
he’s had a pretty productive 10 minutes tonight.
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Rose should keep taking the midget to the hole.
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:45 PM CST reply actions
no we dont
most overrated player in the nba…he makes noc look like mutumbo
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
well then I WANT STAT I WANT STAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
? Why do you make that assertion?
If we can get him w/o giving up Deng why wouldn’t we?
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
yeah man, stat deng rose is the new big 3
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
several reasons
1) not nearly as good as his stats suggest
2) locker room cancer
3) max contract…have you ever watched him defensively??
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
Whats wrong with the max?
You expect us to win a chip without a max? Seriously bro. I don’t buy the locker room cancer thing. and he gets great stats and would be much better in our up tempo style of ball.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
he would be better than hes been in pho?
Im not against signing a max player…but nothing fucks up a team worse than signing a player to the max that doesnt deserve it
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
Why dosen't he deserve it?
You still haven’t anwsered that. Also hes off the hook in 2010 so wahts the beef
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
its simple
he doesnt rebound/block shots/play defense and hes selfish/locker room cancer
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
Hes not a locker room cancer. I explained that
Marion was a bitch. Sarver is a bitch. Kerr is a bitch. ALso he DOES REBOUND! 8 a game is good! He scores 20 ppg in a bad offensive system where shaq is screwing with his natural talent! We have Noah/TT to block shots depending on who we trade. Have you ever watched PHX play ball in the last 3 years????
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
stat ain't a locker room cancer
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
are you serious
the marion trade was made mostly bc they wanted to get amare a mentor and bc he couldnt co-exist with marion….they were winning 60 games/year and stat wanted to leave so he could be “the man”
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AMARE IS BETTER THATN ANY OF THE CURRENT BULLS PLAYERS
BY TRADING FOR AMARE WE WOULD GET A FREAKIN SUPERSTAR
A SUPERSTAR SINCE MICHAEL FREAKIN JORDAN
GET IT???????????/
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
superstars play defense
and have won something
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
Take a zanax
and chill
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
That happened because Marion is a selfish mother fucker
Stat is cool. So what if marion was a bitch?
ALso, right now Stat has reason to be pissed. They got rid of D’Antoni. Screwed with his game by adding shaq and completely changed the offensive system and he IS STILL avg 20 8 and 2 with a +22 eff rate. WTF else do you want?!?!
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck you for a one word response
You are ignorant. Seriously he gives you everything else. We can live without him being Ben friggin Wallace. You can get by without 2 good defensive front court players.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
sheed wasn't known to play defense before coming to detroit
but then he became a beast, it’s all in the motivation. he is not motivated in PHX that’s why he ain’t interested. SHAQ is the cancer, not STAT
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
this sums it up
he said it a couple of days ago…
"I’m not a captain so you can’t put too much of the blame on me. It’s not my job to rally the troops and get everyone on board it’s the captains job to do that."
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Dude, he is in a horrible situation
With a shit coach, shit GM, and shit owner! THEY ARE OPENLY SHOPPING HIM. He isn’t a part of their future. What is wrong with him saying that? It would be nice if you could attempt to try and display some semblance of intelligence when you talk about this instead of just making claims. You are talking weak. Explain your claims.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
where is Noah?
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Its too late to bring Noah back I think
he played like the first 25 minutes straight almost, now hes sat for 10+ straight
that was great D by Kirk
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TT
got foul 5, The inbounds play was Noc on Dirk, and Barea shoots it with Kirks hand in his face. It never went to Dirk!
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Deng really has to make that fucking little flip. That was terrible.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:49 PM CST reply actions
Luol misses a chippie.
3 for 15 tonight. Bulls need defense.
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 9:49 PM CST reply actions
Hopefully Vinny brings Gordon back in out of the timeout.
Go for the kill with a Gordon dagger, instead of playing conservatively with Hinrich’s defense.
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wtf do u mean?
so hes having a bad night. Is that a reason to bench him? Noc should sit he is the real mother fucker here.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
Just not tonight.
Of course, we’d rather play one of our best players who’s having a bad night that a bad player having a good night.
absolutely.
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If the Bulls followed that logic we'd be better off for it
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
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So I keep catching myself holding my breath....
This game could literally kill me, I think.
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TT has 5 fouls... some are craptastic calls.
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this will be Deng's second straight bad game. Last game he had just 13, 4, and 4
this game he has just 10 4 and 4
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:51 PM CST reply actions
God, Nocioni is fucking terrible.
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Good to see
Tyrus and Noah both playing great together again tonight. I really really think they are turning the corner for good.
This team has had talent since day one, it’s a shame they waited until near the All-star break to play even a little team D and share the ball. We could easily be at .500
No Gordon. No Noah. VDN no brains.
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YEAH DERRICK
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
HAHA
The dallas announcers are like “noc tooka bad shot Rose or Gordon should have taken taht shot” lmfao
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good job derrick
why would noc think that he should take that shot…thats why he needs to be out…eventually he will do something stupid and fuck up the game…luckily tyrus kept the ball alive
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When I saw
TT slap his hands after that, I thought HE was getting the offensive goal tend. WHEW!
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If we lose this game
it’s cause we missed way too many bunnies. Lu missing a 5 ft jumper, Tyrus missing two gimmes. Gotta make those shots and put the game away
haha well said
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
Derrick's D comes to bite us in the ass. Damn it.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions
Well, yeah, I'm exaggerating.
I tend to do that when my whole world is collapsing around me. ;)
I meant only basket – but my brain is going too fast and fingers too slow or something.
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early on the dallas announcers cited the bulls 33% 3-pt opponents avg as the best in the league.
what the hell was Derrick doing? He was floating in the middle of nowhere on D the whole play.
God that is just piss poor.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:57 PM CST reply actions
yeah you got your point across with the first post
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
they showed the replay and I saw just how bad the D was.... it was abysmal.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
derrick was pushed there
veteran move by kidd…still no excuse
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions
FUCK! that was great penetration by Rose and he should have gotten the call
he never gets the call.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions
Please stop giving Rose the last shot.
He’s like 0-9 on them this season.
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seriously
he’s great everywhere else, but damn…having BG as a decoy is bullshit
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What the fuck!!!
How do you allow a 3 when you’re up by 3 points…..goddamn this! Derrick better do defense drills at the next practice for hours. Shitty shitty D
Alright, so what does the team have left?
‘Cause I’m not sure I’ve got 5 more minutes of this in me.
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Rose should not have been in to play defense with Thabo on the bench. VDN is comatose.
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I've been wondering about that, too
Vinny does all these offensive and defensive subs at the end of tight games – well, if he’s looking for the best defensive 5 he can put out there, Derrick needs to be on the bench. I don’t think it would kill his confidence – just be a challenge to get up to speed defensively.
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we complain about development
i rather put these situations on rose….hes gonna get them sooner or later. If we lose the bulls suck, if we win..well we still suck but in the end at least rose gets those c hances to become better.
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I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the constant offense-defense subbing
but if he’s going to do it, don’t leave one of the weakest defensive guys out there until his D improves. He’s got the whole game to get better.
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i thought that rose did alright on defense
although a lineup of kirk, thabo, deng, tyrus,and joakim on the defensive end would’ve been nice…….again i think rose should get these opportunities….were a losing team that will be happy making it to the playoffs, this is a rebuilding kind of season…so rose should get more opportunity than anyone else and should be allowed more leeway so long as its for his betterment in the future.
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I'm sorry
but D.Rose driving the lane for the last shot isn’t a good decision. He never ever gets the call so it’s pointless. Should did a two man Rose to BG play. Ben shoulda shot that
Rose and TT
is a beautiful thing
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 10:01 PM CST reply actions
yep
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
Tyrus has been a stud this game
he’s the only one with any late-game composure
Tyrus
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:01 PM CST reply actions
fuckin' Dirk
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:01 PM CST reply actions
man the Bulls have getting abused going to the hoop and getting nothing.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions
really?
I understand that he prolly extended the arm..but this is ridiculous
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:03 PM CST reply actions
fuck Noc! He thinks he's Dirk. Ugh.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:03 PM CST reply actions
Vinny's calling Time Outs like it's his job
oh, wait..
Dirk is as awesome as the officials are pathetic.
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Noc has gotten the ball entirely too much in the 4th / OT. He is AWFUL.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:05 PM CST reply actions
He really does. He cost us the game tonight….real talk. Kidd only made one shot the whole night cause he fell asleep on D.
we should trade him!
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
Man, Lu is shooting 20% for the night
comounded by the fact that he’s taken 15 shots while shooting like crap.
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Yeah
It’s pretty bad.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
Thank God for Ben Gordon
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:06 PM CST reply actions
whatever, guy has been making shots when we need them.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, still no comment on Lu's bad game?
Blind-luving.
I commented further down that he had a bad game, go look for it. I was disappointed in his shooting
but I was mostly disappointed with his failure to hit the boards. It’s all down there, but hey, if you wanna troll, go right on ahead.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 8, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
Rose gives up another three to Kidd
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:07 PM CST reply actions
make that a 2.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
shut up
there was a switch. Noah was out there guarding him
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 7, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Rose is bad on D, and if you can't see that... you're just being a homer.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
but it was a switch
watch the game. i’m just telling you reality
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 7, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
I am watching the game.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
there was a switch on that play
his bad D in general doesnt mean he fucked up that play, altho clearly he and Noah werent on the same page
I'll concede that maybe I missed the switch on that one play, but it doesn't change
how awful Derrick is on defense and how his defensive lapse on JKidd allowed a better team to take us OT, which cost us the game.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
this guy hates Rose
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
I don't hate Rose. I'm just being honest about his deficiencies.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
TOO MUCH
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
TOO MUCH? He's an apocalypse on D and he doesn't get to the line. Those are my complaints.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
if he ties his shoes the wrong way you have something to say
keep your criticism commentary to yourself because it is annoying
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
the whole point of this website is to discuss the team. I'm discussing my concerns with
a player we have a lot invested in. I only have two complaints on his game and they are major ones. He’s the worst defender on the Bulls and he doesn’t drive for contact in the lane, and thereby, doesn’t get to the line. If you don’t want honesty, don’t read my comments, dick.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, discuss
not constantly bitch (unless it’s in the form of benching Gray, Noce, or Hughes)
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
I'll bitch about whomever I feel like bitching about, thank you.
Derrick Rose has a lot invested in him and if we’re going to be a good basketball team, he has to improve two areas of his game. They are the ones I’ve mentioned over and over and over again. He’s gotta get to the line, but more importantly, he’s got to play some frickin’ defense. He’s a very bad defender. He doesn’t even get into a defensive stance and for the most part doesn’t look like he knows where he is supposed to be on that end of the court. That is an aspect that I partially blame on the coaches for not holding him accountable and telling him where to be. But some of this is also on Derrick; just watch him on defense some time, he never even gets into a defensive stance, he stands straight up and loosely follows his man around.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
was that on Rose or Noah
they had switched? failed to switch back?
Neil Funk is an idiot
Gordon was trying to pass to the open man, but Neil Funk says he’s “trying to do too much”…wtf
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Terrible pass.
I can’t hear Funk. Don’t want to either.
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ok, well say "bad pass"
it wasn’t because he was trying to “do too much”
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He was trying to do too much
that shot was his….
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disagree
if he would’ve shot it everyone would be saying “that was too much 1-on-1”
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Noah is like a young Tyson Chandler
He just can’t resist fouling people. Although I don’t know if its a big deal since its the end of the game.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 10:08 PM CST reply actions
It'll take another one of those BG 4 point plays like against Charlotte.
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Well, Gordon hit the three.
But the Mavs didn’t foul!
Still, losing by 1 in overtime to a Western playoff team is a lot better than we were a little while ago.
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The Bulls don't have a prayer because VDN forgot that they needed defense.
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fuck
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:10 PM CST reply actions
Why did Vinny bring in Hinirch?
It eliminates one option on offense, while doing nothing on defense. We already had Barea neutralized in the overtime.
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This is why they need a Stoudamire.
by Playboy_Bull on Feb 7, 2009 10:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
and by "a stoudemire" you mean amare stoudamire
but he probably wouldn’t have helped us on defense
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
We need Amare because he is a game changer, we don’t have that yet and Rose is still trying to grow ino that role.
amare quote
"I’m not a captain so you can’t put too much of the blame on me. It’s not my job to rally the troops and get everyone on board it’s the captains job to do that."
sounds like a guy you want to pay 25% of your cap to
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
yeah?????? really?????
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
Well i got
an entire playoff series that proves otherwise…..dirk nowitski is the softest superstar ever!!
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if our guards could work through screens
then we wouldnt have to switch and dirk wouldnt have dont this…the same can be said for barea
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
gotta give cred. where it is due…barea and nowitski run that pick and fade to perfection…Damn barea he has like tony parker speed turning from those screens… hes so compact and powerful….the only real way to cut him off is to switch on the screen…which gave dirk the mismatch….damn
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What cost us this game?
It wasnt the coach
it wasnt even noch (he did a fine job i thought)
it wasnt our bigs
it wasnt even barea (damn his ability to dribble through screens)
it was our guards overdibbling. Rose, hinrich and gordon were all guilty of it this game….hinrich did start it, but when he stopped then rose started and at times gordon did it too…..uh ball movement isnt a cliche….its a fundemental…im dissapointed…
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It was Dirk Nowitzki hitting incredible shots
Christ, they did a great job defending him too.
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A lot of it was just Rose falling apart down the stretch.
He went form having a great efficiency game, down to 44 TS% right now.
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Dirk just fucked us and didnt even kiss us.
by Playboy_Bull on Feb 7, 2009 10:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Fuck Amare
We lost because we didn’t play D for the whole 48 minutes. Tyrus had an Amare stat line tonight and we’re still gonna lose. Amare wouldn’t have changed this game.
We won’t win close games unless we learn to play D the whole game.
we won't win close games until we have a superstar
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by broseleay301 on Feb 7, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Rose, Noce and Gordon. Nice lineup when you need defensive stops.
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I meant at the end of the 4th quarter when the Bulls were up 3. No way Rose or Noce or Ben
should have been in. Noah is 7’ tall. Thabo 6’ 7". Kirk is twice the defender that Ben is. Just for the last 17 seconds of the 4th. Derrick is one of the worst defenders in the NBA and his shot wasn’t falling in the 4th quarter. HE’S A FRIKKING ROOKIE. IT’S OK TO PUT A VETERAN IN AT CRUNCH TIME ONCE IN AWHILE. And when the Bulls needed a score, why the Hell not have Gordon, who had the hot hand take the shot or at least draw a foul? Vinny lost this game in the final 17 seconds.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 7, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
<33333 Tyrus
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
Tyrus for three! 2 point ball game.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:18 PM CST reply actions
Rose gets to the line ONCE in regulation for all the times he got hacked,
and the Bulls win.
Maybe we can?
.954% chance he makes at least 1 shot if it was on a miss
and he was fouled on quite a few of those.
Now we’re 2 games out of the 8th spot. We needed and had this game. Derrick is definitely the goat…if he just stays with Kidd, we win this game. He has to pick up his D, no excuses, I don’t care if he’s a rookie. Look at Westbrook and Mayo, they both D up. Hell at this point, Westbrook is the better player….not as explosive as Rose but at least he plays on both ends.
well, Rose did give up the three that sent it to OT by not being where he was supposed to be
on D. He was just floating. He’s the worst defensive player on the Bulls team which is a bad defensive outfit, so that is to say, he’s a horrid defender. Westbrook does play D and has a higher PER right now, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Westbrook is the better all around player right now.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
tyrus: 23pts, 12reb
VDN has let him loose and he’s responded
by SethS on Feb 7, 2009 10:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Too true.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
tyrus will be a decent 3 point shooter in a couple of years
i know its a small sample size, but hes shooting 40% on the season…from 3
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:19 PM CST reply actions
agreed, that sample size is WAYYY Y too small.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Tyrus will be the best 3 point shooter in the league
by January of 2012
the point is tyrus works on his perimeter game a lot (perhaps too much)
His shot is pretty good out to 18 ft. He has good form. I would be suprised if he isnt shooting 35/36% from downtown in a couple of years. Why is that unreasonable??? I understand that he hasnt shot many 3 and the sample size is too small, but why is it crazy to say that he will be a respectable 3 point shooter in a couple of years?
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
because
some GOOD shooters don’t even shoot 35% from downtown…he has nice form and can knock a few jump shots down, but read this with me…
TYRUS IS NOT A JUMP SHOOTER
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but he loves to work on his jump shooting
and i think he will be a respectable shooter. You have to take into account what tyrus is gonna work on and that seems to be what he has focused on recently
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
he has a pretty stroke
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I love that they didn't quit
But man I wish they could have the end of regulation to do over.
And that Lu didn’t pick tonight to have one of his worst games.
And that they’d held onto a few more of those TOs.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 7, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
maybe not that one particular missed layup, but it's tough to beat a good team
when you’re third option on offense goes 3-15 from the field and only grabs 5 rebounds in 41 minutes. Luol has to play better for the Bulls to win games.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
of course
especially frustrating cause so many of those misses were easy shots
yeah, I was most bummed about his failing to crash the boards though
cause he had a stretch where he was routinely grabbing 8 or 9 boards in 35 or so minutes of PT, tonight he had just 5 in 41 minutes and the last game against NOH he only had 4. Bad shooting nights happen, bad rebounding nights are usually more about a lack of effort.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
ya
part of that was there was a stretch mid game when VDN put him on Dirk. He does a lot of things pretty well when he plays the 4, but his rebounding is generally a lot worse unless its a mismatch in his favor. But he has to get better at working his way into the flow of things and getting all aspects of his game going when he starts out slow.
Knew it.
All those gimmes we missed in the 4th would come back to kill us. We missed so many layups.
I’m still liking how the team is playing now.
25-some shots
and not a single free throw. He wants to be an elite player, he needs to draw contact. That’s it. One frakking thing. Draw contact. As big, strong and fast as he is, it shouldn’t be hard. He does that, he’s pretty much a star.
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that and learn to play defense
Im not too concerned about that…hes so competitive and has such a team-oriented approach that i think he will learn. But if he wants to be a super star then he has to be a good defender and a leader. Superstars do more than put up big stats and I think derrick will get there…but right now his d is atrocious
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you.
The other thing he has to do is play defense, and Vinny has to hold him accountable on defense, which he is not doing right now.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
man every game that goes by
makes me wanna keep tyrus more and more.
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
anyone watching these dirk highlights??
Hes always being guarded by our guards after a pick and roll. That may be the gameplan, but its obvious that our guards do a terrible job of fighting through screens, thus they HAVE to switch and that causes havoc. Thats why dirk had such a great night. If we really want to improve, then we should only practice fighting through screens for the next couple of weeks.
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:27 PM CST reply actions
dirk is also pretty much unguardable as a jump shooter if he's "on"
I mean seriously, he’s 7ft and he shoots fadeways
He's being facetious.
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what the heck?
this gamethread is being buggy. didn’t mean to respond to you, SethS.
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but its easier when youre 10 inches taller than the guy guarding you
if tyrus or noah is on him, he misses a few of those
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
not many rebounds gonna be available with Dirk shooting over our tiny backcourt players
he’s gonna hit most of those shots.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
it doesnt matter where your rebounders are if the shot goes in
history shows that dirk struggles against long/athletic opponents…but hes not gonna miss with derrick or ben guarding him
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
maybe if we could play the fourth quarter at the beginnning of the game
you know, just to get it out of the way…
The main reason we lost
Derrick losing track of Kidd
the main reason we lost was just bad
decision through out the whole game.
by ImmanuelKant on Feb 7, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Wonder if Steve Kerr was watching...
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shut up Kendall Gill
I don’t mind Rose taking the last shot but someone should tell the coaches that it’s not illegal to run a play for BG at the end
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At the very least use Gordon as a decoy.
Vinny has to realize that any team with a half decent scouting report is not going to leave Gordon wide open at the end of games. He has hit something like the 2nd or 3rd most game winners since he’s been in the league. Other teams know that.
So leaving Gordon standing in the corner is going to do nothing. That just makes it easy on the other team because they just need to stand there and be ready to contest Gordon’s shot if they do pass him the ball…but they also can play some deny defense on Gordon.
If they want to use Gordon as a decoy, get Gordon running around like a mad man, so the other team thinks that the Bulls are trying to get Gordon the ball. Don’t just have him stand on the wing or corner.
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I much rather have rose with the ball than gordon
Do you even remember when we gave gordon the ball at the end of the game?
It ussually ended up with him dribbling into a trap or off his foot or some awful shot.
I dont think you can trade Tyrus right now
What if this isnt a hot streak and Tyrus has really start to learn how to utilize himself and make use of his minutes.?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can't pass up the sure thing.
Amare/Bosh, definitely trade Tyrus. Can’t pass up those guys, they’re too good and too young still.
Don’t pass up All NBA talent over a hot streak.
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Bosh yes, but Amare seems to have too many red flags at this point
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i agree
I really want bosh…amare, id rather not make a move. He isnt a superstar. THe word superstar is over used. Amare would get us to the playoffs, but wed never do anything significant with him as our best player. I want to compete for championships…not play to get to the 2nd round
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Like what?
That Phoenix doesn’t run a play for him?
Over the past 3 years combined, he’s averaged 22.2 PPG on 63.9 TS%, which makes him the best offensive player in the league.
We’d be crazy to pass on trading for Amare, whether it means giving up Luol Deng, or it means giving up Tyrus Thomas.
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Well
he doesn’t play D
Hes had microfracture knee surgery
he has a bad selfish attitude
If he was the best offensive player in the league he wouldnt be available on a team trying to contend…
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kevin Garnett, Shaquille O'neal, etc.
Trades happen in the NBA. Shaq got traded to Miami and helped them win a championship.
Kevin Garnett, same thing. Things fell apart in Minnesota, but that didn’t mean Garnett was a bad player.
Amare clearly doesn’t want to be there, and being on a team like the Bulls would be good for him. He would be the featured player on the block. He’d probably open up the game a ton for Gordon/Rose as well.
If we’re worried about defense, we can do a follow up trade for Tyson Chandler. It’s just a matter of JR being willing to commit to the money.
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i think thats the case
Thomas is confident and getting consistent minutes…hes trying harder than ever and he has a great work ethic. People tend to underestimate the mental aspect of the game, but its very important. Tyrus finally feels comfortable now that nobody is fucking with his minutes and he knows that he wont be benched if he makes 1 mistake.
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
See if Toronto will bite on a package surrounding Deng
Rose/Hunter
Gordon/Hinrich
Thabo/Noc
Thomas/Noc
Bosh/Noah
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
your right
Gordon is a great shooter and made some incredible shots today, but i worry too much that hell lose the ball. he had 5 TO’s
shut up
nobody cares about Kirk
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
okay Kirk had 5 turnovers
what do you want?
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
Kirk sucked
he was a huge reason we lost!!!
by ImmanuelKant on Feb 7, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
i want you to go away
this wasn’t even directed at you…stop being an ass
http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/
I just don't understand when something is said about Gordon
we go running to other player’s faults
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
because, if someone points out one thing, it's perfectly fine to point out something else
if you don’t like reading about other players’ faults, then skip over the post
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Sorry, I just hate the Ben Gordon bias on this site
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
And ignore all the Kirk love/BG hate?
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 7, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
then don't read the site?
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
is that all you can say
don’t read my comment.. don’t read the site..
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
evidently
you don’t read or skip well, because two different people just told you to skip something. Please do us a favor now and just click the little black “x” in the upper right-hand corner.
http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/
okay
because BaB’s two biggest tools told me “skip” something, I’ll click the little black x
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
I'd trade him for Bosh, but not much else.
Amare is lacking on D and may not have the heart this team needs. Vinny knows what kind of person he is as he was with the Suns organization so I guess if we do acquire him it’ll be a good move.
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
C J Bulls says TT is a bust with little or no upside. I hope he likes the taste of crow.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 7, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Id say just get the ball in Gordon's hands.
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Id say that was a great idea. If they would have taken your advice the Bulls would have won.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 7, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
all teams do that and i dont understand it
why do you always iso your best player when you have the last shot? If that was the best way to score, then youd probably do it every play.
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
well thats basically what the Cavs run all game with LeBron
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not anymore. that's what they did last year. this year their offense is much better and has a lot more movement.
last I checked they were tops in the league in offensive efficiency.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
The NBA equivalent
of NFL team’s prevent defense?
It makes no sense to me either. And the refs HATE to blow whistle, so forget about getting to the line, unless your name is Manu (or Rudy!).
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
i think today was just unlucky also
They bulls contested almost every shot in OT, the mavs would just not miss
Exaclty
The Mavs won this game, we didn’t lose it.
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's also helpful to play defense. They gave up
10 points in less than 4 minutes of overtime. Then Dirk got an easy fade jumper (his trademark- to the left) on Noc.
And they have been defending better, that’s why it’s been so much more fun to watch. But more is needed…
Very tough to get calls on the road. When Dirk was going bad, it seemed there was a scheme and it was being followed. Ty and Jo had him out of rhythm. But then Carlisle turned to his bench, which (typically for an NBA team at home) outplayed the Bulls. I normally don’t get all over the coach for missing matchups, But I would think going into the game VDN would want to have TT or Noah on the floor whenever Dirk was. And NOT switching with the guards, please.
I think people have to get off Rose and his D. He’s tryin’, and that means it’ll get better. He had Dallas’ crap defense completely broken down and at the Bulls mercy in the paint. But not enough player movement (court chemistry yet) to take advantage. It’ll come.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
D Rose will be great someday but his D stinks. Why should we get off his case?
The fans are just as hard on Noce, Gooen and Gordon. and Derrick is by far our weakest link on defense. Sometimes trying isn’t good enough. It is the coach’s responsibility when the game is on the line, to play the lineup that gives them the best chance to win. VDN blew it in the 4th quarter when he failed to substitue properly at the end.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 7, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
hes bad
but not as bad as Gordon
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he's worse than Gordon on D.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, Larry Hughes was a no show for the entire game. Not just when it mattered.
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Fuck that
Derrick’s D is shit. He is an athletic freak, even a minimum of effort would have him as an ok defender. So get off that. He needs to get in a stance and go after guys. He has to step up his D to at least mediocre level.
He's lost on defense.
I don’t think it’s all effort. Like earlier in the game, he was chasing around Jason Terry with some good hustle, but he just had trouble chasing him around.
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It's a combination of a lack of effort and lack of understanding about where to be on the floor
he doesn’t get into a good defensive stance and on top of that, he isn’t usually in the right spot on the floor (which is what happened on the big Kidd 3, he was just not anywhere close to where he should have been).
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
he also doesnt understand the best angle he should take or team defense
defense is not all effort. Derrick does try, but he doesnt know what to do…hes never had to learn. With good coaching, this could be fixed…however, we’re stuck with vdn
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
yet another reason why hiring Tom Thibodeau would have been the right choice.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 7, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
thats who i want to hire this offseason
our team could be scary good defensively with thibodeau
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Deng would be that guy
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
after watching Deng tonight turn back into the Deng we know...
yeah I’d trade him over Tyrus.
by ImmanuelKant on Feb 7, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
i cant think of a time it hasnt worked
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're kidding you'd take Deng over Tyrus?
by ImmanuelKant on Feb 7, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
i didnt say this
but he has been our best player the last month.
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
I keep Tyrus over Deng
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he had a bad game
that will happen. Deng is good…dont overreact to 1 game.
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 7, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
did you just start watching the Bulls tonight?
Deng has a history of this!
by ImmanuelKant on Feb 7, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I forgot to mention free throws killed the Bulls!
They are having free throw issues lately..they missed some big ones tonight.
I think they started 12-18 then hit their last 6
It was their failure to get to the line(and the failure of the refs to whistle when they got hacked) that hurt them down the stretch, not missed FTAs.
Deng 3 for 15 for the game. D Rose was 2 for 11 from the 4th quarter on.
It’s time to go back to old reliable Ben Gordon. With Rose on the floor, I don’t think he will be turning the ball over as much as in the past because teams will no longer be able to triple team him. VDN has to come up with more than one play at crunch time.
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Hey come-on...this game was more good than bad
Thinking back a few weeks, we would have been ecstatic to see them play this well in Dallas….lost in OT with Dirk finally going off nothing to be ashamed of.
Gotta give it up for when the team actually shows improvement….as they have of late. As much as I wasn’t expecting it, there’s a lot of good news with this team…to the point where we are now thinking it’s a terrible result if they actually lose a game like this.
I’m calling for a moment of silence to appreciate that we’ve now got a team worth watching again. Much better than the crap team getting booed off the floor at UC. And T2 breaking out is more important than picking up a game on 8th place.
There’s something in the glass tonight…looks half full to me.
It was a good game
but i was sure before the game even begun that we should have won. The bulls came into the game with the right mentality, but after we built up a lead, in the second quarter you could see that we relaxed a bit and the mavericks bench came at us with all they had. That’s disappointing, and though its easy (and fun?) to point fingers at individual players and their flaws the truth is the team in its entirety failed to come together and step it up. Losing is alright when you do everything you can, but when you lose a very winnable game, its disheartening. That’s why it became so negative in this thread.
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Ben Gordon was awful last night
Kirk and Deng played poorly as well, but Ben Gordon killed us on both ends of the floor. Turnovers on offense and then sitting on the floor to complain about the non calls while your 4 guys run back to play defense and get forced to foul.
Despite Ben Gordon playing for the Mavs last night, we were still in this game. The early missed free throws hurt us at time when we were on pace to build a 15 point lead while resting our starters.
Jason Kidd one shot all game and it was huge. But his defense on Gordon was a key difference.
When the 3rd quarter rolled along you could tell we were not going to win this game. Where we had chances to put away the Mavs for good we failed. When we had to chances to turn key stops into free throw attempts we took jumpers. When we were getting some bad calls against us our guys sat around and complained about it. Noc’s technical foul for his early complaining? Yea, I’d like to have that 1 point giveaway back to avoid the OT.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
Let me add
It sounds crazy, but Ben Gordon can score 28 points AND be biggest liability in our 5 man units. Way to make Barea post a career night Ben Gordon. You should have had 40, but I would have been happy with 20 and something resembling defense.
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by NBA Observer on Feb 8, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Hinrich was the one who really let Barea have a career night.
I chronicled this in my game recap.
Kirk Hinrich was the one who gave up those 5 points to Barea in the third. In the fourth, he gave up 4 more points to Barea, including an easy layup that brought the game o within 3 points. Barea also had that 1 point on a free throw after Hinrich came in for Gordon, in which Barea drew the foul.
So Barea scored his last 10 points on Hinrich. Then going back in the game log,…Barea had 4 straight points on Gordon, which prompted Vinny to pull gordon. So the score is 10 on Hirnich 4 on Gordon right now.
Looking back at the replay now….Noah switched onto Barea, and Barea drives past Noah and makes a running shot. So 2 points on Noah now. Nocioni switched onto Nocioni. Didn’t come out to the three point line some reason, dared him to shoot, and Barea hit a 3.
Then in the second quarter, Tyrus Thomas fouled Barea on a fastbreak, and Barea hit 1 free throw.
So:
Kirk Hinrich – 10 points
Ben Gordon – 4 points
Andres Nocioni – 3 points
Joakim Noah – 2 points
Tyrus Thomas – 1 point
That’s how Barea got his 20 point game. I’d blame Hinrich more so than Gordon. But that’s just me.
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When the evidence says so, yes.
Ben Gordon is just getting picked apart for his bad defense on Barea because it was so demonstrative because Vinny pulled Gordon right after that.
Hinrich was by far the worst on Barea, and didn’t get a stop when it mattered most.
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How about giving
Kirk credit for stopping Wright after he had scored 2 quick baskets on Gordon? In fact I don’t think Wright made another shot attempt while Kirk was on him. Spare me the no help defense theory you posted in here last night. If Ben had kept in front of Wright he wouldn’t have scored two quick baskets on him.
hes gets no credit
for TWO defensive stops. ummm…thats the only reason hes out there…and he let a midget kill him. If Hinrich isnt playing defense…then he doesnt need to be out there, because we all know he wouldnt be able to score 28 like Ben. Plus they had the same number of turnovers.
If BG had
played better defense Kirk would not have been in that much. They both did a shitty job on Barea.
sue, it's a fight we can't win
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
What do you mean?
JR prefers Hinrich to the superior (basketball player) Ben Gordon.
Why, one can only speculate.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 8, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
What does this have to do with the discussion at all?
They both played poorly on defense, there’s not much blame to go around.
I hate this notion that if 1 player is bad on defense, but his sub plays worse, it’s somehow allowable. Rose is routinely awful on D, Gordon is hit or miss, and Kirk’s been either really good or really weak on that end since coming back.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 8, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
gobulls1124's comment referred to the overall
Ben versus Kirk discussion.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 8, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't read it like that
I thought he was referring to Andrew7’s BG-colored goggles that skews everything he writes.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 8, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
do you account for how long each of them was matched up on Barea?
because say if Hinrich was on Barea for 20 minutes and Ben was on him for 5, then Ben’s 5 minute stint on him was much worse than Kirk’s 20 minutes. I don’t know if that was the case, but it’s something you have to factor in rather than just looking at how many points he scored on each.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 8, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
Everytime Barea or any guard scores points "on" our big men
you have to consider it at least partially the responsibility of our guard who should have been on him. Its the guard who couldnt fight thru the screen or get around fast enough to recover and forced the switch. Its gonna happen, but BG and Derrick basically NEVER get thru the screen and Hinrich very rarely does.
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