Bulls 105, Rockets 102
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 28, 2009 10:33 PM CST
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PrintSorry about the lack of a game thread today. No excuses, just spaced on doing it before heading to the UC tonight.
Obviously a fantastic finish for the Bulls, it's amazing what a team can do when they have a competent lineup out there to close a game. That Derrick Rose kid, I think he can help us in 4th quarters!
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well said
great 4th quarter….
d-rose playing like that is just amazing…
i really loved how he succeeded with the lack of some very obvious foul calls
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
with every game
it seems more and more evident that Ben Gordon and Derrick Rose can’t co-exist on the same court at the same time
Bosh in 2010
That is right. Gordon is not going to defer to Rose, Gordon does not intend to defer to Rose...
Gordon is jealous of Rose….so Gordon got to go. Notice in the games, whenever Derrick Rose makes a good play that Ben comes right behind him and tries to do the same thing ….as to say…I can do whatever you can do.
Gordon jealous of Rose? Without Gordon's play, you don't win this game.
Contrary to popular belief, Rose didn’t win it by himself. Gordon scored double figures in the 4th too. If that’s jealousy then Rose needs to be more jealous himself and play like he did tonight more often.
true
the Bulls only need one above-average player. Everyone else can stand in the corners I suppose.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 28, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
oh my
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 28, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I guess Gordon wanted to be the man so bad that he took a whopping 13 shots.
What a jealous ballhog;)
You know whether you like Gordon or not and think Rose is the greatest player ever
The fact remains that you’re going to need someone that can score points in volume from long range to play alongside Rose. A guy scores 16 effective points and most of them when it counts, looks pretty darn good to me.
Are there ineffective points
that do not count towards the final score?
Maybe we can (but probably not)?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 28, 2009 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
yes
any points that Kirk Hinrich scores :)
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by NormVanBeer on Feb 28, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
No cutting
Cutting implies other people want the basketball, that’s EGO.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
So now it's about stat-padding for Rose?
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Just like Chris Paul.
That guy is totally winning championships with his supporting cast that can’t do anything without him.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Paul is amazing
…he would win a championship with a deeper and higher quality roster
by bullsfaninbigapple on Mar 2, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
the Magic are familiar with that offensive scheme
the NBA: where Jameer Nelson is an All-star happens
Bosh in 2010
Nobody puts Derrick in the corner!
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 28, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately it is
But you really only need to watch the first 30 seconds, that’s why I put it there
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 28, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
lol, sorry
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 28, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
if you saw gordon
after the game ended..he just walked out off the court, not even celebrating with his teammates..
what the heck?!!
WTF!!
That’s unthinkable!! Banish him to hell!!
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by NormVanBeer on Feb 28, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yes Gptdon did do that.
Did anybody else catch when he smacked his own ass after he made a shot?
hes just not wired like that.
even when he is the one making a big shot, he rarely seems to show elation or joy.
I'm starting to think the same way
Although maybe if he gets a new contract and isn’t feeling the heat financially as much he would defer a little more
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 28, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
I just think its a lot of speculation
Hes a scorer so hes going to be that way I think and we’ve seen a lot of times players on this team not stick with the hot hand. This time around Gordon was producing as well though. He sparked the run I had thought. If Gordon does nothing and says go Rose for 6 minutes I’m not sure if we win this game. I think he was just pulling his own weight.
Well,
it really worked horrible this game.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
yeah, just read the recap on espn, d-rose and ben gordon each had 11 in the pivotal run
Derrick Rose got Freakin Skillz. When are we going to add a 7th championship?
by broseleay301 on Feb 28, 2009 10:39 PM CST reply actions
in the 4th quarter
Derrick Rose got Freakin Skillz. When are we going to add a 7th championship?
by broseleay301 on Feb 28, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
in the pivotal run
Derrick Rose got Freakin Skillz. When are we going to add a 7th championship?
by broseleay301 on Feb 28, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
notice how we pull out a win
cause vdn had no tim thomas to insert into the lineup to kill the flow. tyrus still didn’t get as many minutes as i would have liked toward the end, but certainly can’t complain about the job that noah/miller did.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
he broke his leg??
they said it was a bone bruise. is this new?
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Broke his leg???
LINK?
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 28, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
It's in the recap on ESPN
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, use Yahoo!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 28, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Oh.
Well … that really sucks. :/
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
no, it's true
::makes cha-ching motion::
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 1, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
it's broken now???
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 28, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
stress fracture =/= broken
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 28, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck, Deng..........fuck
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
From KC
Luol Deng, who had been a combined 17-of-44 shooting (38.8 percent) for an average 9.7 points in four games leading up to Saturday night’s, left at halftime with a right shin injury. Del Negro said afterward it could be stress fracture.
Dr. Del Negro
also said it could be acid reflux or a touch of the Scarlet Fever.
by Bulldozer on Feb 28, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Hell yeah
Deng will never be the player that Salmons is right now
you are truly distinguishing yourself
with comments like that.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 1, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
great finish nonetheless.
Too bad about Deng. ouch.
god damnit
what’s happened to me??
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 28, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 28, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
An injured Deng just means more minutes for Hinrich
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
thanks for ruining my night
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by NormVanBeer on Feb 28, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
nahhh that's crazy talk
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 28, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
well, someone has to play the backup 3 minutes
and i’d prefer it NOT to be a 3 guard lineup of rose, gordon, and hinrich. which means it has to be one of the thomases playing the 3.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
I agree
Why not give Tyrus some burn at the 3. They had him guarding Lebron, so why can’t he try and guard the rest of the Non-LeBron 3’s out there? I would guess that he would still be the same as he is now on offense.
i haven't liked it in the past
but i’d certainly do it in a pinch. it takes away from his natural weak side help if he’s too far out on the perimeter, and with noah and miller in the lane he’ll be brought out on offense also. however, if he’s able to hit a midrange shot with consistency, he’ll be ok. i hated him at the 3 last year but his shot continues to improve.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Forgot to mention...
I thought Tyrus did as good of a job on LeBron as anyone on our team, and a lot of other teams for that matter. So my point I guess was that if he can guard 3’s, he should be able to play some minutes there.
but yeah, it means salmons exclusively at the 3 prob
which does mean more hinrich… sucks…
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
but its going to be more minutes for hinrich playing 2 guard
Salmons moves in for deng at 3 so kirk moves in for salmons at 2 which means MORE ROSE at 1!
Except that means less Gordon
And Hinrich sucks at the 2, and the 1……..and well anywhere.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
How about Hinrich backs up the 1 and 2, Rose/Gordon play 35 minutes each and Kirk plays 25 or so backing people up?
And if he sucks, let’s just play Lindsay Hunter. [No, seriously.]
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
did that happen aganist the rockets
it was crazy. i thought vinny wasnt coachin anymore at one point. but a line up of rose, BG, tyrus, miller, and noah did take place
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
i didn't remember seeing one last night
but the ty/miller/noah did make an appearance in some game this week, i don’t remember which one.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
im pretty sure it did happen in the 2nd half some time
because i only saw the 2nd half… and we and my brother said.. oh crap vinny’s playing guards as guards and forwards as forwards
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
well crap
The news wasn’t all good for the Bulls, either. They lost forward Luol Deng to a stress fracture in his right tibia.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=290228004
Bosh in 2010
Credit should go to the Associated press
this story is also on sportsillustrated, cbs, and a billion other websites. Why do we give credit to ESPN?
Why do you care?
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure they are afraid of you
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
Seriously, this isn’t just to robinhood, although I’d like to hear you opinion. I read espn.com everyday and enjoy it. SI.com is the one that sucks in my opinion. I never agree with them, so I stopped reading it.
But I would love to hear the reasons why so many people on BaB hate ESPN. They are funny and seem to have a lot of coverage. No one person’s opinion or analysis is perfect and espn has lot of contributors, so you can here many perspectives. Also, you learn who you agree with most and read them most frequently. At least that’s what I do.
I can't speak for everyone, but I know what bothers me about ESPN.
This is usually what one of their stories consists of:
Boston, Boston, Boston, Boston, Boston, New York, Boston, New York, Boston, Boston, A-Rod, New York, Boston, Big Papi, New York, Jeter, D’ Antoni, Marbury, Boston, New York, Manny, A-Rod, A-Rod, Mets, Yankees, Boston, New York, New York, LeBron (going to New York?), Knicks, Celtics, New York, Boston, Torre, Big Papi, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Belichick, Eli, Eli, Eli, Plaxico, Plaxico, Brett Favre, Brett Favre, Brett Favre, Brett Favre, New York, New York, Boston
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Mar 1, 2009 3:08 AM CST up reply actions
You forgot "Lebron, Lebron, Lebron, etc"
They also ran more than 10 “The rookie”-shows on Beasley. And none on Rose! (Ticked me off)
That's because Beasley is crazy!
He’s an out there dude. He isn’t afraid to say crazy things. It’s like Arenas (not quite as crazy or funny) but you get my drift. Rose is soft spoken, defers all the time, humble to a fault and is generally only a few steps up from a Corbin Dallas interview with Chris Tucker from Fifth Element. We love him because he is awesome and a Bull. But fans of other teams don’t care about him saying that “Gooden is a great guy and he has really helped me a lot this year and I just try to listen to all the guys and learn all I can” in a aw shucks kind of manner. It’s not good television/entertainment, which is what sports is.
Let's see. 90's?
Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordanaires, Bulls, Bulls, Bulls, Jordan, etc. etc. etc.
I’m not mad, I loved every minute of it. But the fact of the matter is, NY will always get stories run because of there size and fan base. And the other teams you mentioned are winners! If we get back to winning and Rose becomes as special as we hope (and we get Bosh and Wade somehow in 2010) then we’ll see all the Bulls talk again.
When did Mike North starting posting here?
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
Because that's where I found it.
I’m aware of what the Associated Press is. See Ozzie’s comment below.
Bosh in 2010
I'm sorry, but other than decreasing his trade value
I don’t see how this hurts the team at all
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
Doubtful, if he didn't have that injury prone label before, it's here now
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 28, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
More Hinrich, more Tim Thomas, even worse defense, more 1-on-1 glorified pick-up ball
Plenty of downside.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
tim was injured tonight too
don’t know if it’ll keep him out at all though
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Hyperextended his knee
Don’t know the severity, though.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not really going to go very far in defending Lu
since theres obviously concerns with him. However, since he has been playing hurt for several weeks and playing rather poorly during them, I think its safe to say that it has all ready hurt the team. It will continue to hurt the team – except that may be largely offset by decreasing the amount of out of sync substitutions Vinny can/will make.
anyone know why VDN
pulled Ben at 9:30 in the 3rd and Ben didn’t return until almost halfway thru the 4th??
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he wanted scoring, so he took Gordon OUT??
…yep, makes perfect sense…
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by NormVanBeer on Feb 28, 2009 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
oh ok
misunderstood what you typed…in any event, I still hate Vinny
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by NormVanBeer on Feb 28, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
People we need to stop asking questions like this!
The answer is always the same: VINNY.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 28, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
true indeed
excuse my temporary amnesia
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by NormVanBeer on Feb 28, 2009 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
Do you even have to ask?
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
Do you think VDN knows why?
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 28, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ba-zingg
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by NormVanBeer on Feb 28, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Matchups?
lol
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -- Michael Jordan
by bennythebull on Mar 1, 2009 12:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Who would've thought....
that Salmons would be the Deng replacement, and not the BG replacement. for now..
Are you being sarcastic?
If so, you’re not good at it. If not, I apologize for my assumption
he's genuinely this fixated on Gordon's ego
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 28, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
Sarcasm?
I dunno Deng has been playing pretty horrible. Gordon still is probably our most consistent player.
I was referring to the perception
that Gordon won’t resign and Salmons will be the starting 2 next year. And yes i was being sarcastic.
oh ok good good I've been bad at reading sarcasm
I still can’t tell if Bart is being sarcastic either
I've been bad at typing sarcasm
and I have no idea what Bart is talking about most of the time.
That's because he's not being sarcastic.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
I had a feeling Salmons would be replacing Deng. He should be the starting SF anyway
by Dils on Feb 28, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sadly. But yeah.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Given that the "system" seems to call for a player who's a largely one-on-one guy
Salmons will probably look better than Deng has most of the year.
The Bulls were pretty much set at the shooting guard position before Salmons even came
It made sense that Salmons would get time at the 3, which is what has been happening.
only if you consider hinrich qualified to actually play shooting guard.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Lindsey Hunter has a 3rd arm...who knew?
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 11:05 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
lol
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 28, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
that's why he was such a good defender
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 28, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Tyrus' block and dunk on Yao
is #4 on ESPN’s top 10
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ha. i wish they'd put the top 10 on their website
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 28, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
I surprised he didn't get benched.
The best time to teach?
“Tyrus, that was a great block, but you saw it coming from a mile away. That’s when you have to just grab the ball or tip it to a teammate. It does little for us if you swat right back to the other team.”
Think anyone said that to him? Doubt it.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
"you see, Bill Russell used to do this all the time
when playing against 5’11" white guys…"
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 1, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
I say we move Deng this offseason.
In addition to being pretty inconsistent, this latest injury is only adding to the “injury prone” label for Deng. I feel like he is COMPLETELY replaceable. First of all, I hope Luol Deng recovers. As much as I harp on him, I do not want the man to not be able to play basketball. I wish him a speedy recovery. But I hope the Bulls look to deal Deng this offseason.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Feb 28, 2009 11:18 PM CST reply actions
In order to move him, somebody would have to be willing to take that contract
which is no given in this NBA. Deng’s contract is rapidly becoming one of the worst in the league.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 28, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
i'm not there yet
but I’m slowly but surely moving toward this line of thinking… (sigh)
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by NormVanBeer on Feb 28, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
We wont be able to move him
im still on the hope train that he turns it around.
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
Well, I see what you're saying but he was NEVER as good as Manning...
…in college or in the pros. Lest we forget, Manning did average about 20 pts and 7 rbds for about 4 of the first 7 years of his pro career before the injury bug bit him.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Feb 28, 2009 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
Deng is our team's Shane Battier
As in an efficient, sneaky, non-stat good player. Unfortunately, he’s not as good as Shane at that, and he makes way more money. He’s not even 3rd scorer right now, which he needs to be. He really needs to actually work on his game over the summer and cutback on all the humanitarian goodness.
by Bill Cartwright's Elbow on Feb 28, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
I will probably get a lot of heat for this comment.
Luol Deng is the new Andres Nocioni. He’s one of the beloved Bulls players who everyone thinks is delightful. However, eventually everyone will realize that he’s just okay, and that we should trade him.
by sweetneyisfat on Mar 1, 2009 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
The difference:
Luol Deng is OK as a starter/defender. As those things, Nocioni is flat-out garbage.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
One problem:
Look around. Does anyone seem to think he’s delightful?
I appreciate you knowing what you're saying might be stupid
and therefore you’d ‘get heat’…yet you say it anyway. True bravery.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 1, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
I will probably get a lot of heat for this comment.
Deng is that beloved Bulls player who everyone thinks is just delightful but then realize is just okay.
Sound familiar?
by sweetneyisfat on Mar 1, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
Two big problems with Deng
1. He seems to be a dreadful fit for Vinnie’s “system”. This can be fixed by replacing him with a coach that understands better how to use him.
2. I once got shit for comparing him to the “injury prone” Gerald Wallace. Well, now Deng’s playing on a contract that couldn’t get fully inusured, and has yet another long-term injury. Maybe we can trade him for Greg Oden? :D
by Sports2 on Mar 1, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to see Deng work again in a real offense under a real coach.
He’s a third option and if he plays like he did when he was 21 (which, being 23 shouldn’t be unattainable), and you know, the last non-turmoil season, I’ll take it.
Give me 22+ from Rose, 17-18 each from Deng and Thomas, with Thomas being more of a facilitator and Deng getting his off of cuts and catch-and-shoots, 12 from Noah and another 10-15 from a SG and I’m happy with it.
I mean, if they want to start over with Rose, Thomas and Noah, sure, whatever. But I still think a 24-year-old healthy Deng (allowing that he’s probably never going to play more than 60 games anymore) is a top 7 or 8 2-way small forward in the league. You want him to be a leader and a franchise player, you’ll keep wanting. You want him to be the third option, scrappy guy who does all the little things like a Joakim Noah type, and you’ll be more than satisfied.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
Very true. Very true.
I just can’t shake the visions of very-goodness I see in him.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
If you think about it everything has played out for the Bulls..
against the Pacers, Magic, Wiz and Rockets you would hope for 2 of 4. Well they got 2 of 4 but not how we all thought.
Pool and a pond... Pond be good for you.
They played the Nets, too
3 out of 5 would have been nice, but I think it’s folly to ever expect anything good or bad from this team on a consistent basis.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 28, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
"I think it’s folly to ever expect anything good or bad from this team on a consistent basis."
If I was a Bulls fan that would be my sig.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 28, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
damn I forgot about the Nets..
well ok that messes everything up I have no point now.
Pool and a pond... Pond be good for you.
We beat good teams [except for the Celtics]
and lose to bad teams.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
What team is dumb enough to take Deng's contract???
Only 1 folks:
one reason they won't
2010
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 28, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
That & he plays the same position as LeBron
Although that’s less of a consideration.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
For Q-Brickerson, Al Harrington, and Jarred Jefferies?
Maybe they will
Trust me, they’ll do anything to get rid of those 3 bums
Jeffries I can see
But as long as Harrington keeps putting up the numbers he’s been putting up, I doubt that.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....
Donnie Walsh =/= Isiah Thomas.
The days of dumping contracts on the Knicks are over, regardless of 2010.
23-3 run to close the game.
If this right (cbssports game flow says so), not only was it a 34-14 4th quarter, but it was 99-82 with 5:58 left in the game. That’s a hell of finishing a run. Great win, but now it feels like a lot of random things must have gone our way.
by Bill Cartwright's Elbow on Mar 1, 2009 12:03 AM CST reply actions
Confirmed by Houston Chronicle
“The Rockets were outscored 23-3 in the final 5 ½ minutes, never stopping the Bulls again in the 11 possession after the Rockets took a 99-82 lead with 5:51 remaining.”
by Bill Cartwright's Elbow on Mar 1, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
I went to bed with 6 minutes left in the game
Thinking I couldn’t take another heartbreaking loss.
Of course, this is when they come back and whoop some B-hind… :-/
The Rockets screwed themselves
Artest and Brooks were dumb and never tried to get the ball to Yao, he didn’t have a single touch in the 4th quarter. Bulls played great perimeter defense as well, but the Rockets played selfish ball.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 1, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
And this gem reader comment for the same article -- backhanded props to Vinny
"This game should have been a Rockets blowout, but Adelman got outcoached , plain and simple. "
by Bill Cartwright's Elbow on Mar 1, 2009 12:12 AM CST reply actions
whatever.
It’s the coaches fault his players choked the game away? The 3 ball is what gave them the big lead you had to think it wouldn’t fall the whole night. So when the Bulls defense locked up the arch what do you expect?
Pool and a pond... Pond be good for you.
Yeah the Rockets should have won by 50.
I would have gone Ming and Scolla all night. Thank you Artest for going cold and stupid.
Pool and a pond... Pond be good for you.
im pretty sure he didnt
have much to do with… hey ron artest since u made shots all game go cuck up some more late in a close game… they shouldve just dumped the ball to yao and go from there… i did enjoy artest pretty much refusing to leave the court without a foul call at the end. until mutumbo came and hugged him a few times.
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
I totally called this.
I mean, I didn’t even know there was a game, but we only beat good teams. Who are we playing next game? Bobcats/Warriors/Bucks … oh shit, we’re going 1/2 [I don’t think we can lose to the Warriors, even though they do suck].
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Chicago will be a dangerous team in the playoffs
We always lose to crappy teams but manages to either beat or stay competitive againsts playoff teams lol. I think we have beaten every playoff team in the east except boston and maybe hawks
If we get there,
we really will be.
As long as we don’t face Boston, we can take everybody else out.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Bulls
In my humble basketball opinon the Bulls can make the playoffs if they bench Ben Gordon if you notice the ball flows much better when he is out of the game. The big guys (Noah, Thomas) play a lot better when there not trying to run and chase down his 1 on 4 shot attempts I know Gordon is playing for a contract but it’s a team and yes there is no I in team and ain’t no we either….Go Bulls
Please wait
until Gordon doesn’t practically win the game for us to say that in a gamethread.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Mar 1, 2009 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I Completely Agree
Winning one game doesn’t make him a quality starter. He is a black hole on offense. I think part of the reason Deng’s game has suffered is that he gets his shots within the flow of the offense, plays a lot of minutes with Ben, and once the ball goes to Ben it doesn’t come out.
Two Things
(1) I can’t find the stats on how many touches he had last night, but Gordon played under 30 minutes so 13 is not an amazingly low number of shots. (2) His shooting percentage is in no way relevant to my point that his shots come outside of the bulls offensive flow and negatively effect Deng’s game (unless you are attempting to make the point that over the course of the season that Gordon’s 1-on-1 play is a more efficient mode of scoring than Dengs shots within the offense, but that still doesn’t really oppose my statement and is terribly supported by the shooting statistics from a single game).
Deng could be out for the season
Honestly, Salmons is the better player at this point, so I’m not sure it’s much of a loss. Vinny will have no choice but to tighten up the rotation a bit, so hopefully there will be no more hockey-style line changes.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
The more players we have injured,
the better our team plays [and the less Vinny can screw with them].
Maybe we need more injuries.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
As long as the injuries are NOT to key players:
Rose
Tyrus
Gordon
Noah
and since Deng is out, Salmons.
Maybe we can (but probably not)?
by Granny Waiters on Mar 1, 2009 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
Just 4 games in, mind you, but Salmons PER is 23.0 as a Bull.
Amazing, that the Bulls have upgraded their SF slot with a guy pushing 30 that was looking like a journeyman.
This is probably unwarranted, but with Deng’s injury I’ve noticed how much of nothing he’s done so far. His TSperc, eFGperc, ASTperc, TRBperc, USGperc, and Drtg are all at their worst of his career this season. It doesn’t make sense that his worth isn’t increasing as he hits his prime, which makes me hope that he’s been severely nagged by this injury throughout this whole year; because if this is the consistent type of output the Bulls are going to get from Deng until his contract is up, it’s going to suck ass being a fan.
Sorry no link for this.
But I read tonight a comment from Deng saying that he went up for a ball and he felt something. He knew it was there before, but he thought it was just a strain. So who knows, maybe it was a hair-line fracture that was causing him to be tentative and suck these last couple games and it just got bad enough tonight to warrant x-rays. I hope he gets all the way healed and can play like the old Luol.
i read that as well and that's exactly what i was thinking
he was playing so awesome when he came back from injury, so it makes sense that he struggled again if he got hurt.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
No complaints here. The Bulls will most likely improve without him.
by sweetneyisfat on Mar 1, 2009 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
its says he's been injured for a while
it just gotten worse. oh well. he was actually playing good in january before disapearing in feb
If Deng was never injured, maybe he would be more consistent,
and whenever he’s not consistent it’s because of the injuries.
That’s actually a really depressing thought. …
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
How can someone so unexplosive
be so injury prone?
by drew gooden's facial growth on Mar 1, 2009 7:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Tyrus's block on Yao and dunk on Yao combo were #4 on Sportscenter's Top 10
=D
Vinny discovers frontcourt by accident. Someone re-smash Gooden’s groin!
- your friendly BullsBlogger
by fundamentallysound on Mar 1, 2009 1:04 AM CST reply actions
it looks like
I missed an awesome game..
Yeeeaaaahhh
not one I’d recommend seeing though cause then you’ll be pulling your hair out for the first 3 and a half quarters.
This team is dumb as hell
Dumbest team in the league, right up there with the Knicks. We have to be down 17 to REALIZE that we have to give the ball to Derrick Rose. We NEED injuries so that our players can play better. We have a GM that needs to INSTRUCT our coach to put the best player in the game in the fourth quarter…….all this stuff is common sense.
I mean, how can you not even have common sense??? That’s what I don’t get.
And from the looks of this game, we definitely could have won the NJ and Wizards games if Rose was just a bit more AGGRESSIVE
It pisses me off just thinking about it
lol
yeah your right. they seem to win against the best and lose to the worst as well.
Every Single Thing
you mentioned has something to do with coaching.
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
by Rudey on Mar 1, 2009 1:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree.
VDN sucks right now. He just doesn’t seem to have it… common sense, basketball IQ, understanding of flow, substitutions, who the best player is, etc, etc, etc. Even the problems that Rose has sometimes mostly seem like things that could easily be fixed with a good coaching staff.
vdn can be one hell of a coach
as long as he starts doing the opposite of whats he’s doing. Whenever he thinks of something, do the opposite. He’ll be a great coach in no time :)
soo... will this lead to a let down aganist the bobcats?
i looking for derrick to go crazy becaue of that BS call on him the last time we played.
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
Vdn is a dumbass but I've realize Rose just needs to take the damn ball.
Derrick is still playing like the coach really runs something. This is Derricks team and he just has to take over, like last night. This is the same Houston team that held Lebron and Cavs to 74 points. Did anybody else see Wade take over last night? I was hoping Rose would do the same thing, I knew be could,and he made me proud. Lol. Two of the best comeback wins of the year… This could be the big turn around win we needed to push for the playoffs.
a positive point about losing Deng
It gives Vinny one less option to screw things up. Less thinking for Vinny the better. I don’t like Tim T for PF. He is a soft SF in a PF body and a pea brain.
Salmons is a better Larry Hughes
And definitely shouldn’t be playing SF.
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 1, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
huh?
SF is his natural position. He averaged 18 a game this season playing SF
by Basketball Smurf on Mar 1, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
I think he's better served as a 2
Confusion breeds success. If they don't know each other, opponents can't have strategy. GENIUS.
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 1, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
salmons
at the 3 opens up the floor a little more offensively than deng. if he can do an adequate job of defending the opposing 3, he could arguably be a net improvement over deng. i’m a deng fan, but one of my biggest concerns with him (other than his lack of lateral quickness) was his inability to shoot from the behind the three point line. if salmons can provide that threat while keeping up with his defensive assignment, and shooting his normal high percentage close to the basket, i wouldn’t be suprised to see him meet or exceed his sacramento averages while deng is out.
Our offense is 'Iso everybody! SCORE GUYS! WTF ARE YOU DOING?!?'
In this offense Salmons is better than Deng. :P
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
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