Where is the passion?

by masputo on Feb 27, 2009 9:46 PM CST

There were plenty of reasons for this bulls team to come out and kill the wizards tonight.

1) They are in the playoff hunt.

2) The PRESIDENT of the USA was in the building to cheer for them.

3)And they Bulls Organization just lost not 1, but 2 Bulls LEGENDS in Norm and Red.

How is one of these reasons not enough to get them motivated?

but they continue to go through the motions as if they're barely learning the "plays".

Which leads me to VDN. Simply put, he must be fired. I have no doubt the guy is trying his best, but he is just not coaching material. Keep in mind I say this when we are actually in line to have a better record than last year. But I also say it while shuddering to think where we'd be with Mike D. as our coach. We have a ton of talent and he doesn't know how to use it.

Having said all that, I still believe the players deserve some of the blame. they show no pride in being out there. It really does look as though they don't give a damn whether they win or lose. I think there is one reason for this. There is no one on this team, from coaches to players, who DEMANDS effort. No no willing to step up and hold people accountable and call them out on their bullshit play. NO ONE. It's the reason the celtics and lakers are so good. KG and Kobe expect their players to go out and compete each and every game. It's demanded of them.

So who is our enforcer? Who on this team is going to be that passionate guy who expects his teammates to compete? I don't believe we have that type of player and until we get him, we will continue to play like this. We will continue to beat the magic and nuggets but lose to the nets and wizards.

"Their not strong mentally" -Norm Van Lier

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btw...

I’m not even mad. I’m disappointed.

by masputo on Feb 27, 2009 9:49 PM CST reply actions

WHY IS VDN NOT FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

punches hole through wall

by gocubs526 on Feb 27, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

A player like that is not going to play for Vinny.

by Bart71 on Feb 27, 2009 10:39 PM CST reply actions

This is as honest as I can be. Here is what I think about the Bulls.

Whether egos have been bruised and their pressing because of the decrease in minutes it’s showing. You can say their pros all you want it’s human nature.

Before the trade the ball seemed to go through Rose and then players played off him. There was the high screens for Rose and then a weak side screen for BG and Deng.

They got out and ran better.

For whatever reason the offense has become more selfish and one on one where as people had set roles before the trade.

Bores and Bernsy can rip chemistry all they want on the radio but I think when you have new people come in you have to adjust and( I think the home stand will help the Bulls get back on track) it’s just going to take time.

If anyone has ever worked with new people there is an adjustment time.

On defense they just always have looked bad except when Tyrus swats Derricks mistakes and now with guys who don’t make freaky athletic blocked shots you no longer have the intimiadtion factor(don’t laugh).

The Wiz did a great job of keeping Tyrus by the three point line and away from the basket. Don’t get me wrong he played like dog tonight.You almost wonder if the Wizards had like planned for this ‘’presidential game’’ much the way the Packers prep for the Bears.

They sure had him all over their website…http://www.nba.com/wizards/index_main.html

You can say they looked heartless but I think with such a large about of players being effected you might say they looked frustrated and when people are frustrated they do weird things like shut down or play out of character.

The pick and roll defense needs to be fixed and thats coaching and on the players.
Help side defense is huge and I saw very little.

The rebounding is just effort and sometimes getting lucky.(of course boxing out) blah blah blah.

So I think VDN should go back to what was working and try to work Miller and Thomas and Salmons in slower on the road. I know that sounds weird. But confidence is huge and now the Bulls are looking behind their backs.

I feel like this is a tryout and VDN needs to get back to what worked.

Other wise I wonder if he’ll lose this team completely.

Pool and a pond... Pond be good for you.

by SoulEater7 on Feb 27, 2009 11:08 PM CST reply actions

well...

The rebounding is just effort and sometimes getting lucky.(of course boxing out) blah blah blah.

Unless your Dennis Rodman who just knew about angles and just out worked people.

Pool and a pond... Pond be good for you.

by SoulEater7 on Feb 27, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions

they don't care

tonight they played like they didn’t care that the president of the united states was there to see his chicago bulls, they didn’t cared about making the playoff and the biggest shame of all is that they didn’t go out and play for norm and red. we are heartless and prideless.

by FUTURE12 on Feb 27, 2009 11:26 PM CST reply actions

VDN made john paxson and his efforts to build a better team look sooooo bad.

this was supposed to be a more balanced line up and a better TEAM, with veterans coming in, not to mention the fact that we got a little bit more cieling by getting a 7 footer, 6"10, and a 6"6 guy. we were supposed to make a push for at least the fucking 6th seed in the playoffs, but vdn is so abnormal, he is just, you know what fuck it, just fuck vdn, fuck him for even having the guts to apply for the head coaching job, and hypnotizing reinsdork with his hair.

Derrick Rose got Freakin Skillz. When are we going to add a 7th championship?

by broseleay301 on Feb 27, 2009 11:31 PM CST reply actions

turn it into a positive...

…let’s just look at it like each loss is a step closer to VDN being fired.

http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/

by NormVanBeer on Feb 27, 2009 11:52 PM CST reply actions

I'd rather like to think each GAME is one step closer.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Mar 2, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions

You get what you pay for..

Vinny is the lowest paid coach in the NBA, what did everyone expect? He has been made the scape goat for an under achieving team, and possibly rightfully so. I like the idea of drafting high character players but somewhere along the line somebody gave these guys (Kirk, Deng, Noah, TT, BG, and Rose) the idea that they are a lot better than they actually are. I think the biggest problem with this team is chemistry. Does anyone on this team actually like each other? VDN taking everyone bowling or to the movies could solve a lot of problems.

by oakdale on Feb 28, 2009 4:17 AM CST reply actions