Open Thread #56 Overflow: Chicago Bulls at Indiana Pacers
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 12:49 PM CST
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Hinrich must've taken himself out
saving up the energy for the last 6 minutes…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
TT from MD!!!
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
Nah, looking a little rusty there
But his rebounding has been pretty good.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Nice!
In this special Sunday afternoon episode, watch Vinny and Hinrich team up to take down the Bulls!
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions
Hibbert could get an eyelash thrown at him
and fall down
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
Miller playing some good D on Hibbert
That was not a foul…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Jesus...
Hibbert is terrible on offense. That call was stupid.
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions
Wow...the refs hate Miller.
He will fit in well with the Bulls.
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I will say I like watching without that sense of dread
wondering when Noc is coming in.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions
Vinny will find a way to work around that technicality.
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i think Noce has changed his name and is wearing make up
or is that Tim Thomas?
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
that play is all day.
love to see that from rose and miller.
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions
Why are they giving calls to fucking NCAA players who looked good 2 years ago?
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
As I said once before
if someone falls, the refs call a foul. If no one falls, no foul.
Brad pops
Rose finds him….jumper good. Just like I dreamt all those months….
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 12:53 PM CST reply actions
It's pathetic that the dreams came down to that
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
seriously...
that could be good for 10 pts a game.
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
But definitely not an "exciting" dream.
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
wheeee Miller hits that jumpshot
Please just let Rose and Brad pick this team apart with Gordon camped at the 3 point line.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
Did we lock down our defense
without Kirk on the floor?
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20 rebounds combined between Noah and Miller
And I don’t think they’ve played together much either. That’s pretty much pure Center production.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
I wonder if VDN
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Shit.
Was going to say that VDN’s excuse for not playing Rose will be the fact that he’s a rookie, and Hinrich has “more experience” adjusting to other players’ styles of play.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Feb 22, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
he's playing the hot hand
from 4 nights ago
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 22, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
There's 4 options out there and of course Noah gets the shot
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
heh, with Rose/BG/Salmons/TimThomas
and 10 seconds left it’s Noah with isolation
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions
Wait, Tim Thomas is STILL playing?
Get that fugazi outta there.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
stayin small......
No Tyrus Thomas
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions
Wonder if his hammy's hurting him
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Feb 22, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
ahhhh
forgot about that. I was about to throw my Vinny voodoo doll in the fireplace.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
do it anyways please
i feel a Kirk sub coming
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 22, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
oh, come now
we don’t need real reasons to sit better, younger players for older, veterany players
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
Stupid NBA lawyers -
why wouldn’t they want more people watching the games (and seeing the commercials)?
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
Vinny Del Negro is wasted
He blanked on all the offensive rebounds and is sticking with small ball.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
Joakim might be the best worst offensive big man in the league
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
I can't figure out if that was meant to be a compliment or not
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
In terms of genuine offensive "skills" I would agree...
He’s up there. Most of his points come off hustle, not much finesse.
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
what skills does he lack other than shooting and post moves?
for a big man, he’s a great dribbler and a great passer and a great offensive rebounder. Are these not skills?
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
It's basically his lack of shooting touch
And how he tends to rush his shot if he ever is in the post with the ball. He’s a very good player, he just lacks some polish.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, which doesn't make him one of the worst offensive big men in the league
he lacks “creating his own scoring opportunities”, there are other players that lack a lot more than that
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
during the commercial
quick look-up: Thabo 0 points in 17 minutes. oof.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 12:58 PM CST reply actions
Did he start?
He needs that starter juice. Someone should have told them that when the trade was made.
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heh
similarly, I did notice that Salmons seemed fine coming off the bench tonight.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Hughes is 1-9 in 15min :D
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 22, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Bad first games all around.
Noce went 2-11 last night. 10pts, 7 rebounds, 3 assists.
between Deng, Thomas nad Noah, Thomas is not the one who needs his minutes cut
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
if youre refering to tyrus
youre wrong
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Oye...what a spectacularly dumb foul on Noah
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Noah learns from his mistake!
Nice defense on the pump-fake!
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
tyrus in for salmons
starters to close out the game, what a concept!
jk, I’m sure Hinrich is coming soon.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions
Luol
is struggling today bigtime
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
If Tyrus finishes the game, he'll be at 32 minutes for the game
Can’t really complain about that.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Would this make it 3 in a row if we win?
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yep
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Feb 22, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Duhon's assist numbers
will go down by just playing with hughes
As someone who has Derrick and Tyrus on both of his fantasy teams
these trades are gonna kill everyone’s fantasy production
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:02 PM CST reply actions
I hear yah.
I also have Deng and Hinrich in mine. I’ve got Noah and Nocioni in another of my teams.
Well, VInny's impressed me
My magic number for Kirk coming back in was the 8:00 mark… it’s 7 now
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
indeed
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Am I wrong
Or have the Bulls prevented the Pacers from hitting a single field goal so far?
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
Well, I knew better than that......
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
way to jinx it ozzie...
Murphy for 3!!!
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
It can't be a good sign, when your coach takes a time out and that's the response
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Vinny has a large Italian family
spread across the continent. Fans everywhere.
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The problem with Tyrus
Is that his mistakes look remarkably stupid. He doesn’t make mistakes at a particularly high rate, but when he makes them they’re so spectacularly dumb that the easy narrative to write/believe is that he’s a dumb player.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
yeah 2008 Tyrus right there
but Noah didn’t make the best pass in the world there either
bg is the same way
sometimes tyrus goes into draw a foul mode and when he doesnt it looks pretty bad
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Another A+ quality play out of a time out!
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
I came in late but
Salmons seems to have played well creating and making open shots. And Millers been on the boards
does Vinny count as a new addition?
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 22, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
they will help him
he just hasnt finished tonight…he does have 8 assists i believe
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
No, The vets have.
Vinny went to his Kirk crutch early and often.
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So basically
Vinny being Vinny, Our vets still suck and new guys ain’t playing too bad and Derrick is just having probs finishing?
Got it
Thanks
What's w/ Rose
dribbling down to the baseline and stopping?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Derrick is 1 for 8. Ugh.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Great hustle play by Deng!
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
does it really matter
It wouldbe more dissapointing if we call a timeout and nothing changes
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
does anyone do that more than thomas
take a bad shot and then catch up and block the shot to make up for it
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions
"If you're afraid go buy a dog"
Thanks Stacey
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Still better than anything Funk said.
Funk: "Rose is as fast as …. …. …. a… sports car.
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Flop
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hahaha, Kirk back in
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
BG
after starting 9-11 in the 1st half is just 1-3 in the 2nd, 3 shots? seriously?
He hardly played in the 3rd quarter.
You can’t shoot from the bench.
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Why not...
have salmons and gordon in together….if rose is struggling why does it have to be kirk to come in
God, those expiring contracts would have been nice
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
This is disgusting
Vinny’s overall worst coaching job to date
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
WTF is going on
w/ this lineup?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
oh my god
Veterans. That’s all it is. Vinny’s trash.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 1:11 PM CST reply actions
WTF? Tyrus and Noah coming out?
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Step away from the computer.
There is nothing to see here. Your day can still be saved.
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BENCH GORDON HE MIGHT LEAD THEM TO VICTORY
HE’S SELFISH AND SMALL AND EATS BABIES.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
Also kills puppies
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
How many steps for a travel again?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Wow, Kirk stop fucking shooting
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
fuck Kirk Hinrich.
Vinny discovers frontcourt by accident. Someone re-smash Gooden’s groin!
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:12 PM CST reply actions
What I don't get is
…how do we go from almost trading him for deadweight to playing him over Derrick Rose?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
because VDN is a fucking moron.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Take him out
god why not have gordon or salmons bring it up atleast they can hit a shot
This loss will be squarely on Kirk's shoulders...
Even if he ends up hitting a game winner he needs to go.
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
Oh my dear fucking GOD
WHYYYYYY IS TYRUS GOING OUT OF THE GAME? JESUS! VINNY IS COMPLETELY INEPT! PLAY YOUR BEST PLAYERS, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
(rips head off)
I never thought about it like this
but the trades improved the talent and versatility of this team. Having said that, that gives vdn more options and he doesnt know what to do. I think we’re going back to more unpredictable rotations and random lineups finishing the game. Maybe we would be better if we always had only 8 men available…at least vdn wouldnt have to option to do this
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:13 PM CST reply actions
You cant bench Rose because he's 1-9
Super Kirk is 1-7. Please tell us if Rose is injured
that would be if vdn used logic
rose may be 1-9, but he is playing better than Hinrich
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Vinny needs his hands tied.
We need to go back to that 7-8 man rotation. I just knew when Vinny got more toys in his toy box this crap would happen.
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Giving Vinny all these players is like taking a fat guy to a buffet
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
I thought Italians savored Sundays
Why is Vinny ruining mine?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
he just wants to encourage arguments
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
I hope he at least has an
“its Ben Gordon time” attitude with the play calling
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Kirk is getting killed on D.
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Gordon is a god on offense
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Amazing Gordon.
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Stop
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
is this fucking news?
Kirk is a good defender, but he is not a lockdown one and especially struggles with short quick PGs like TJ FORD
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 1:15 PM CST reply actions
i hate Kirk Hinrich.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
hate Vinny more
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
At least Kirk is shutting down Ford!!!!!!
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
sarcasm meter...FAIL
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
TJ
is just blowing by Hinrich
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Fuck you Hinrich
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Just because he hits a crazy shot doesn't mean he should be shooting it
Or the next crazy shot. This game is DAMN CLOSE and BG wasting possessions on ridiculous shots isn’t helping. And I LIKE BG, but those two shots were dumber than anything TT’s done this season.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Thats VDN's fault
offense is totally out of sync because he is playing Kirk and the 2 new guys
Kirk tried to guard TJ from BEHIND somehow.
WTF. Seriously. Get between him and the basket, Kirk.
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It doesn't help with TT on the bench either...
He usually cleans that crap up. Miller couldn’t do anything to adjust that shot.
VDN is a punk.
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
Vinny, stop playing the hot hand from 4 nights ago
thanks
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
Did Rose, Tyrus, and Noah all get traded?
They are all still on this team, aren’t they?
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
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They play so well when they were all we had
Now Vinny decides to spread the love around . . . .again
Awful offense, Awful Defense
This is the Bulls team we know
This is just genius coaching
Get the game out of reach so that Gordon is forced to take increasingly bad shots to win the game. Bulls lose, blame goes to Gordon for “being selfish.” Kirk Hinrich’s a fucking double agent.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
They took out anyone else
who could help on offense. Now we are down to Gordon or nothing. Stupid, Vinny.
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Kirk Hinrich is awful at defending TJ Ford or anyone else with speed.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:17 PM CST reply actions
Somebody needs to slam ford on his head
again
..on 2/18/09, Noc was gone..and on the next day, Larry "The Chucker" was just a bad dream...
I don't want to see anymore comments here about the positives of Hinrich
This game proves why BG fans go nuts about him
Hinrich is gritty and [redacted].
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Paxson got rid of all the bad habits of Vinny
But he couldn’t trade his fucking gentleman lover.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
Holy freaking crap
This is disgusting.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
This is why the playoffs don't matter
In a quest to get to the playoffs we’re ruining everything we’ve built to this point
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
We can get to the playoffs
with the 7-8 man rotation we were doing well with. Working in these new guys and overplaying vets IS THE PROBLEM. But I guess we need to get these new guys establish or some such bull.
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Welp...
I L L !
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Hm...what's for lunch.
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BHAHAHA Rose is back in now?!?!
You serious? This is definitely a ploy to excuse any blame from Hinrich.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
there is no excuse
for Tyrus and Rose not being in the game right now. Tyrus has been playing great the last 2 months. Rose has been your main guy all year. This is just horrible coaching. Fire VDN.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2009 1:19 PM CST reply actions
VDN absolutely needs to be fired.
Vinny discovers frontcourt by accident. Someone re-smash Gooden’s groin!
- your friendly BullsBlogger
by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:19 PM CST reply actions
1st game with new players
Wooosha fambam
..on 2/18/09, Noc was gone..and on the next day, Larry "The Chucker" was just a bad dream...
That was the worst 4 minutes of Bulls basketball in over a month
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
How many different lineups did we see in those four minutes?
Someone needs to look that up on the play-by-play. What a complete joke of a “coaching” day.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
What the holy fuck
What a disgusting, pathetic way to start things with our new players. VDN has no plan and absolutely no fucking clue what he’s doing.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
ideal lineup of this game should have been
rose
gordon
salmons
Tyrus
Miller
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
also lets keep noah in there
he is better than miller
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
eh
i wasnt too impressed with deng, he was getting to the line and missing? Anyway, i think gordon and salmons were having the best offensive games, that would stretch out the defense alot. Tyrus was having the best defensive game by far…and miller was having a very solid defensive game (plus he was setting great screens for gordon and setting up salmons) d. rose cuz he could set up miller way better than kirk was (and as ive noticed everyone else noticing…kirk sucked all around today)
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Deng was playing good d
Miller should have been subbed for Noah but that is about it.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
I watched the 1st
and the first half of the second, and then came back during the 4th…so i missed quite a bit, from what my brother told me and what i saw myself, plus the comments here…this seemed like the lineup that was best offensively and defensively…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
salmons was playing okay but Gordon was hot
I think Deng plays better off a 1st option than Salmons and is an overall better defender and rebounder. But regardless, the rotations in the 3rd and 4th killed us.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
He seriously has absolutely no clue what the fuck he is doing.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
This is ridiculous
They would have been better off making no trade at all.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
Um, the trade wasn't the problem
Miller and Salmons were both good. What does the trade have to do with Vinny being a moron and Hinrich being a terrible player?
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Because Vinny is a moron and he has no idea how to incorporate new players
Why aren’t Tyrus and Noah out there?
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
Who cares about the last few plays
The game is over anyways. He would have kept them in had he not botched the team in the 3rd quarter.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Chicago will make a run
then have roberson inbound the ball with 5sec left
I just love how Funk has no idea why we aren't winning.
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You called it
And another asinine shot from BG.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
you're really going to shit on BG when he put up 28 points on 60% shooting. I mean, really?
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
If you really believe in the "hot hand"
Then I can’t do anything to help you. Just because he was something like 10-12 in the first half doesn’t mean that he can just start throwing up a bunch of bullshit and watch shots keep falling. This isn’t NBA Jam. (He’s on FIIIIIIRE!).
BG made horrible decisions on shots pretty much the entire fourth quarter because he wasn’t getting the same looks he was in the first half. The decisions he made on shots/possessions in the fourth helped to contribute to the Indy run that won them the game.
His great play in the first half and his awful decision-making in the fourth are not mutually exclusive events.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
He didn't get a chance
to make bad decisions in the 3rd because Vinny sat him the entire time and he got cold. Then in the 4th Vinny took Rose out…so who else was a shooting option besides Gordon? I’d still rather have Gordon shooting than Hinrich. Look who was on the floor. It was a mess.
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Awful decision making?
He was put in a horrible situation. They basically threw him out there and begged him to make tough shot after tough shot to lead a comeback. It’s comical he is held to some high standard of efficiency while the coach sabotaged the team for a whole quarter. Scorers can’t just get into the flow of an offense when they aren’t playing.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Look at the game flow for the 4th
and we have Salmons and Deng missing jump shots. Gordon missing. We took out our rebounders. Took out Rose who could make plays for other guys. It isn’t surprising to me that our offense went to crap.
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I agree that taking him out of the game was a dumb move by VDN
But following that up by taking asinine, low-percentage shots was a petulant reaction by BG.
Listen, I want the Bulls to re-sign Gordon – moving Hinrich for an expiring was fine by me – but neither our affection for BG nor VDN’s idiotic substitution patterns justify his petulant play.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
he started jacking up shots
because he was trying to save the game at that point. he was out too long, and even when he was in, he wasn’t involved in the offense until too late.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Like I said
When there’s only a few minutes left in the game and there is a slim chance of winning, they are expecting Gordon to take those crazy shots. I wasn’t happy with the shots either, but when it’s late in the game someone is going to be chucking.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
I was more just saying that there are better places to lay the blame than Ben Gordon
for the result of this game. VDN and Kirk Hinrich being answers 1 and 1A.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
We agree there
Search my comments and you’ll see a lot more fury directed at VDN than everyone else combined.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
I just wish he got the same minutes Nocioni was getting the last couple of weeks.
15-20 mpg.
Del Negro needs to realize that these are not all “about equal” players and therefore they should all get 20-25 mpg. Starters should get 30-35 until further notice. Miller about 25. Hinrich and Salmons 15-20. Thomas 5-10. Perfect!
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
it's that philosophy of 'equalness'
why they switch on every screen too..
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
When to switch
Since Jan 15th or so it seems Vinny has decided to always switch every screen. Watching NBA teams around the league it seems some switch and some dont. Shouldn’t that decision be based on the other teams personnel?
Some teams you need to pick your poison on the screen roll, San Antonio you’re screwed either way Duncan or Parker, Utah same thing, but a team like the Magic coming up I’d rather have the Bulls allow Alston to take 20 footers then have Rose matched on Howard he catches sees Deng helping and Lewis and Heido having wide open threes all game.
Are Funky King allowed to talk about how bad Vinny is?
or are they just clueless..? or a bit of both?
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
thank you for the new sig
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 22, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
i hope the a.i.
is on hall of fame (although moreso on hall of fame the cpu hits every shot and gets every screen and call, while you cant hit anything especially in crucial moments…)
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
VDN is an extreme example of the ai
While the ai in 2k9 adjusts its strategy to the game, vdn plays entirely based on matchup and the hot hand
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
You know this theory makes sense
no wonder d. rose was able to steal that inbound pass….he must play 2k9 with barkley alot!!
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
I don't know why I have hope for this team
Vinny Del Negro is still the worst coach in the NBA.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
If you look at the pieces
it looks good. We are just missing a coach.
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If we all chip in
I think we can pay off Vinny’s contract
"Whenever Kirk/Ben are in together. Kirk turns into a crappy player, because he tries to freeze Gordon out of the offense." - Andrew7
I agree.
Maybe if Rose needed development time, but he doesn’t. He needs a quality coach right now. Not a babysitter.
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He needs someone who can instill confidence in Rose and groom him...... Derrick Rose was
capable of taking over the game and should have done it. It seems to me that Vinny is jerking Rose when he makes mistakes and putting in Hinrich.
They should interview Kirk and VDN
they are the key players in the paces Win
Everyone blames vinny
But seriously, he could put any line up out there and theoretically they should be able to beat the pacers. Look at their freaking roster. Troy Murphy, jarret jack and marquis daniels beat the bulls tonight.
It obviously isn't that easy.
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Theoretically, yes
But in reality Kirk Hinrich had a terrible game, Rose was awful on offense. It’s the job of a head coach to realize who is going to score points and put him in the game.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Deng stunk too
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
u didnt catch all the missed free throws
he cant even get that staright anymore..
seriously he needs to take shooting lessons from tyrus
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
I don't think thats fair to those players though to say
Vinny made some real dumb decisions if we could have at least a consistent lineup…or one that is actually well thought out then we should of won.
And his defensive strategy was retarded
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
how long in the season must they go
for him to figure out that swtiching on every damn pick is fuckin’ stupid… how many time did murphy get simple shots up over rose, bg, and kirk….
i have never seen soo many games lost by a retrad of a coach
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
any shots he got up in the 3rd
were not on BG who was on the bench. Same with Rose for the most part. That leaves…
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yea ok
but its not like murphy scored all his points in the 3rd alone… he had a complete game
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
I think you are mixing Murphy up with Ford.
Murphy is a F.
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no shit
im talking about the gaurds switch witht he forwards every time indy ran a pick. therefore bulls gaurds would defend aganist indy forwards. understand. the whole game was like that… hell almost the whole season has been like that.
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
Guys, its OK
the Celtics lost to the Pacers, too!
We should be thankful it was this close!!!
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Danny Granger wasn't even playing today
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
The Celtics have a better record than we do.
It does mean more for the Bulls to lose.
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expect the unexpected with the bulls
i think that should be thier slogan…its pretty accurate…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
im being sarcastic just to avoid confusion
I would rather have the AI of 2k9 coach this team than VDN
by trig on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
by chibullsfan03 on Feb 22, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Draft Flip!
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:29 PM CST reply actions
This should've been a game where Gordon went for 40 and everybody was happy...
But VDN had to screw with sub patterns by taking Gordon out for most of the 3rd, TT for most of the 4th and Rose for most of the game…UNBELIEVABLE!!!
the nba should make it possible to trade coaches
can you imagine SA trading pop, bowen and bonner for stoudemire and then promoting an assistant that theyve been grooming for years. How bout if we traded luol for nate mcmillan? This really should happen
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:31 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No thanks on Nate McMillan
I’m fairly certain he would self destruct under a tight wad like Reinsdorf.
"So long Noc, we hardly knew ya."
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
rec'd
http://thegettinplace.blogspot.com/
What a truly awful performance by Rose, too.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
he did have 8 assists to 1 to in just 26 minutes
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Can anyone tell me
WHY DERRICK FUCKING ROSE ONLY PLAYED 26 MINUTES?!?!?!?!
I FEEL LIKE I’M TAKING CRAZY PILLS
(looks to sky, shakes fists) VIIIINNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://thegettinplace.blogspot.com/
He was strugglinig offensively himself,
but had 6 assists early in the game and then got pulled…sat for a long time, and never got it going once he finally got back in.
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by Ugh It Live! on Feb 22, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Vinny taking him out with 10 mins left in the 3rd
was absolutely hysterical
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
OSU doesn't still have that dickhead
who ruined the perfect season and again in another game do they? It’s gonna be a tight finish…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Feb 22, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Individually yes
He did create opportunities for his teammates, his jump shot was just so off today. I’ll take 35 minutes of poor play from him any day of the week over Kirk’s performance.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
i don't think he was that bad
VDN’s subbing really took him out of the flow of the game. He was pulled 2 minutes into the 3rd quarter. After that, he never got back on track.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
i wish they wouldve made 2 versions of the wrestler
one as is and the other as orignially planned staring cage.
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
He has to be the most boring actor in film right now
If he were an NBA team he’d probably be the Queens
The Chicago Bulls
where you really should have slept in happens.
pretty pathetic
gordon went out too long, then went too long before being incorporated back into the offense.
when salmons and miller came back in, it should have been for deng, and not tyrus.
it’s not the new guys killing us with vdn’s rotations, it’s hinrich.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
just wait till we throw out a frontcourt of
c tim thomas
pf deng
sf salmons
I like the players themsleves….they just have to be used right. We were playing well before the trade. We dont need to make too many changes.
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
the worst thing is that funk and king actually suggested that lineup!!!
i like the trade, and tim thomas playing 8 minutes is about what he should get.
done right, we definitely have a lot more versatility in the lineup. but something about kirk has been bugging me.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
well on the brighter side.. if they "team" keeps mopeying along like this the rest of the season...
The Paxson will be forced to make a decision concerning Kirk and ….“your” beloved Luol Deng…
man up!
radio broadcast
some fan on the radio is blasting VDN and his use of Rose. This is great.
It's probably Matt.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
I can't make any sense out of Tim Thomas playing 31 min vs Tyrus 7 min
I don’t really care that Tim T. hit 6/10 why the switch. Tyrus has potential, is Paxson/VDN kissing a.. because of the way he treated this selfish scrub before and VDN previous relationship?
Tyrus only had 1 foul, so that can’t be the excuse.
I didn’t see the game..
man up!
you got it mixed up
tyrus played 31 mins…tim just 7
by rosefromconcrete on Feb 22, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
add him to the list
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
by Yibs on Feb 22, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What positives can we take from today?
This was the debut of Miller and Salmons, so the offense was understandably stagnant at times. They were on fire most of the game, yet only finished with 79 FG attempts and 19 assists.
I can already tell Brad Miller is going to help this team, it just remains to be seen how Vinny will handle Tyrus and Noah in the rotation now. I like Miller’s toughness on the boards, and he had some good looks on offense. I think he hits that jumpshot with better accuracy with some more games under his belt.
To me, Salmons looks like what Thabo should have been. High energy, aggressive on defense, and a decent jumpshot with some forays near the basket. It’s a huge upgrade over Nocioni, but again I’m leery of how Vinny will use him in the lineups. 25 minutes a game from him is probably the right amount, but I don’t want to see the Bulls turn into an isolation team by putting him and Gordon together a lot.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
Dabullz.com Recap and a special comment on Kirk Hinrich.
http://dabullz.com/2009/02/22/indiana-pacers-98-vs-chicago-bulls-91/
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hahaha
What Kirk Hinrich did today was the single most shameful act done by a Chicago Bull all season. For some reason, two minutes into the third quarter, Del Negro decided to sub Kirk Hinrich in for Derrick Rose. Once in the game, Hinrich froze Gordon out of the offense. Ben Gordon, who had 22 points in the first half on 9-11 shooting, did not take a single shot in his original 5 minute, 21 second stint in the third quarter.
awesome
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normally i don't like andrew's blatant ben gordon bias
but i completely agree with him here.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
not that it was necessarily the most shameful act
(if vdn counts as a bull, then him pulling rose for the final play in miami might be the one :P)
but that was total crap.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Kirk the cancer?
I can easily agree that Kirk is playing too much, had a terrible game, and I hope to see him dealt so that BG or someone like Salmons gets more PT BUT you’re little special section on “Kirk the cancer… disgracing the Bulls team uniform” is a bit much. After all, he’s not pulling Rose out of the game… that’s VDN’s awesome decision making.
as i said above
i think the biggest problem with vinny’s substitutions aren’t going to be the new guys, it’s his use of kirk hinrich. we finally got rid of nocioni, but this continues..
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Then he should play well
I’m not expecting a 31 point performance all the time, but he should be able to manage to play like he did on Friday against a shitty team. He’s a good player, but his performance in the 3rd was seriously abysmal. It’s something I would expect from a rookie, or Larry Hughes.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
I think the drawings of BG and Rose on your banner
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
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by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Oh. Those aren't drawings. Those are photoshops.
I do have a drawing of the same Derrick Rose picture that’s in the banner. It’s not the greatest drawing ever though.
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Looking at Vinny after today
I keep going back to my expectations of Vinny at the begining of the year…..
Goals for Vinny
1. Don’t mess with Derrick. 2. Win your 35-39 games, blow 5 games on poor coaching decisions ( end of Miami game), 3. Don’t Mess with Derrick. 4. Listen to your assistants. ( That’s not happening from what the media is reporting), 5. Dont Mess with Derrick.
So Vinny gets through the first half of the season on pace to do all my goals except listen to the Bernie and Del. But at the 53rd game the wheels started to fall off. Since the Miami game Derrick has been absent in key 4th quarter mins 3 times. Miami, Denver, Today
If he thinks moving the Bulls from the 9th to 7th playoff spot is his main objective this year he needs to be fired or have Pax/Gar tear him a new one publicly as Jerry did. I know Jerry is hated by a lot of people on the board but he is the only one to go off on Vinny publicly and that is very admirable in my book.
also if he thinks playing Rose less
will help his team’s playoff seed…
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
vinnys soo badd at this coaching thing
that hes making me, a kirk supporter through the years, start to hate kirk
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
Kirk Hinrich is not the best or the worst playing his position.. He can stand on his own two feet as a player in the NBA
But the Kirk-ease promotions thoughtout the organization, initially John Paxson to now VDN to Neil Funk is deathing.
Kirk role has now become the replacement for Duhon on the team, this is not really a surprise. For years while Duhon and Kirk played it really wasn’t much significant difference to what each provided for the team , except one made 11/10 million while the other made 3 million a year.
Duhon is a starting PG presently in the NBA, likewise Kirk probably should also be a starting PG somewhere?
Therefore, PaxsDorf quit the sicking Kirk-ease promotions and make sure Kirk is traded or sit down together to restructure his contract if he just loves playing for Chicago, regardless of whatever you decide to do with Ben Gordon.
man up!
But Kirk is a lot more like the fans that can afford to go to the games
than the other guards on the roster.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
Except Lindsey Hunter, who runs with his sons cross country team to stay in shape.
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Not exactly what the typical suburbanite looks like?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/lindsayhunter.jpg
Not a similar socioeconomic background (pre NBA) either.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
why are you trying to (not-so)subtly inject race into the discussion?
Vinny discovers frontcourt by accident. Someone re-smash Gooden’s groin!
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 22, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
How else does one explain the relative popularity of certain players?
JR is going to do what is best for his bottom line, so marketing overrules basketball in decision making.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
logic...
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Feb 22, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
Granny.. thanks.. might as well call things as they are!
Still, there comes a time when the average surburbanite refuses to be associated with mediocrity which Kirk is begining to become nearer too?
Aside from his skills, the grit and toughness are declining….
He’s doesn’t take the ball strong to the hole, He Shys away from physical contract more and more each year, his shot isn’t improving but the opposite..
Still his facial hair, his nice personality and his looks are improving with maturity and enhance his personal appearance..
But, I just don’t believe this is enough and the number 12 jerseys are declining in favor of the number 1 jersey, although Derrick is not typical surburbanite… Fans want to also win.
The nail in the coffin will be when Kirk gets the same applause as Paxson is now receiving.
man up!
How soon would Pax fire VDN??
My first thought was just one game after the trades would be too soon. Then again, we need a coach that can quickly get the new guys acclimated into the system, which IMO isn’t such a hard task. It’s a telling sign when the team’s weakest link is the coach.
Do you think Pax would pull the trigger this season? IMO, it’s now or this summer.
Just after turning on the TV, I saw Wade, Hoiberg, and some other guy....
by MouseIsInTheHouse on Feb 22, 2009 4:10 PM CST reply actions
I don't think so
but not because Pax thinks he is his guy. He already tried getting two other coaches first and Jerry screwed it up. So Pax may very well not be happy with the situation. The problem is that they would have to pay him if he left. And I don’t think Jerry would enjoy paying two coaches at the same time.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
Do you think he'll be gone this summer?
I can’t see how Pax will let these screw-ups go on for another year.
Just after turning on the TV, I saw Wade, Hoiberg, and some other guy....
by MouseIsInTheHouse on Feb 22, 2009 4:31 PM CST reply actions
Oops, sorry for not using reply.
Just after turning on the TV, I saw Wade, Hoiberg, and some other guy....
by MouseIsInTheHouse on Feb 22, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
The Bulls (VDN) gave this game away.
Almost everyone is blaming Kirk for the loss. He was terrible today…1 for 7, 0 rebounds, 0 free throw attempts in 22 minutes and was eaten up by Ford. Bet lets spread the blame around. This was a team collapse.
D Rose was 1 for 9 in 28 minutes. He played lethargically and got to the line only once against tiny T J Ford and when he did penetrate he missed layups. Like the rest of the Bulls guards he constantly got caught in mismatches with their bigs on switches off screens. Is Vinny blind? Doesn’t he see how often the Bulls get burned? Noah constantly wound up leaving his man to chase or double when it wasn’t necessary as did Tyrus and Deng to a lesser extent leaving our guards vulnerable.
Vinny had too many opportunites to put his unique decision making on display today, which almost always spells doom for continuity and logic. He pulled Tyrus after TT had made 3 straight j’s. Gordon was completely ignored and than pulled after putting on a dazzling offensive show when the Bulls needed offense. They came back from 14 and regained the lead with Brad Miller showing veteran smarts so he yanked him out and Noah immediately went into one of his brain cramps on defense and slowed down the offensive flow. Juiceboxjerry had the quote of the day (maybe the season) when he said “Giving Vinny all these options is like taking a fat guy to a buffet.” It only hurts when I laugh or watch Mr. confused blow another game a half-way decent coach would have won easily. While the Bulls were being destroyed by 2nd chance points, he pulled Tyrus and went small….moron.
Deng (Mr. plus/minus -21) once again failed to produce in the clutch and couldn’t hit a free throw. With all the shooters on the floor, they chose to go inside to the spastic Noah. At least there was no Gray sighting today, although maybe he would have prevented the Pacers from getting so many offensive rebounds. Does VDN ever run drills on how to box out?
Someone needs to sneak some ex-lax in VDN’s water bottle so he has to leave the court in the 4th quarter to give the Bulls a fighting chance. Watching them self destruct under his guidance against far inferior talent (except for their coach) is like being forced to view continuous reruns of Groundhog Day on a bad VCR. This has got to stop somehow. If Pax isn’t going to fire Vinny, then bring in another assistant with some authority who can reign him in before they hit another iceburg.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 22, 2009 4:54 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
PS: As a loyal Bulls fan, Vinny has basically reduced my options to 2 choices.
Either stop watching or just slit my wrists. Which one would be less painful?
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 22, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe we should trade (or send to the D-League or cut or waive or kick off the bus) someone else who's close to Deng.
I seem to remember he had a good game the night Nocioni got traded. maybe he needs anguish to push his game up?
Even Tyrus knows how dumb Vinny is.
Del Negro surprisingly pulled Derrick Rose for Kirk Hinrich less than two minutes into the second half for failing to control Ford. Later he replaced Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas with Miller and Salmons with 3 minutes 4 seconds left in a one-possession game.
Thomas sprinted off the floor with a look of bewilderment and headed straight for the end of the bench, then wheeled and ran to the head of the bench to pat Del Negro on his knee.
If only that "pat"
was delivered with Hulk-like force and one of our assistance were forced to take over.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
*assistants
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
I wonder if Pax could suspend VDN for a game
Then the players could take a vote to have him suspended for an extra game.
by hlac on Feb 22, 2009 5:44 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
did not watch the game but wow, i woke up this morning and expected a win, but instead, crap happens?
bulls shouldve known better, playing a team with their backs against the walls, come on now, minus granger and dunleavy? back to the old ways vinny? damn.
Derrick Rose got Freakin Skillz. When are we going to add a 7th championship?
by broseleay301 on Feb 22, 2009 6:33 PM CST reply actions
Where we should not win win 3 times in a row twice in a season happens.
Derrick Rose got Freakin Skillz. When are we going to add a 7th championship?
by broseleay301 on Feb 22, 2009 6:38 PM CST reply actions
From Sam Smith
What seemed most clear-and hardly unexpected as it often occurs after midseason trades-is coach Vinny Del Negro acted predictably like the kid with a pile of toys on Christmas morning.
He didn’t know which one to try out first
Derrick Rose got Freakin Skillz. When are we going to add a 7th championship?
by broseleay301 on Feb 22, 2009 6:52 PM CST reply actions
to make matters worse
milwaukee pulled out the win :(
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Noah
Thought Noah made his presence felt on the boards, as usual. 12 boards (10 and 2) before being pulled by knucklehead Vinnie with 3 minutes left and the Bulls a point away from making it a tied game. Tyrusmancrush you should be arrested for wondering that Aaron Gray might “have prevented the Pacers from getting so many offensive rebounds.”
To SlamDunk. I agree that anyone recommending putting Aaron Gray in the game having options of Miller or Noah on the bench
should not only be arrested, they should be locked in an airtight room and be required to listen to Jim Boylan and Vinny DelCluess discuss the finer points of strategic coaching and substitution patterns with the game on the line. I would even prefer Noce at center over our big, soft teddy bear. It was meant as a cheap shot at Vinny’s apparent lack of working on fundamentals with the bigs…(i.e. boxing out, not switching to a 6’ guard while leaving their 7’ man open for a layup, time after time without making any adjustments…(maybe a zone?).
I may not be a reincarnation of John Wooten, but I’m not that stupid. If Aaron never sees the floor again, except during warmups, I could easily live with that. But you have to admit, he is a good cheerleader, obviously being grateful he is actually recieving an NBA paycheck instead of being a backup in the “D” league.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 22, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
Could the Bulls finish ahead of the Pistons?
They’re down 67-34 to Cleveland at halftime. They look like they’ve given up on the season. Michael Curry may end up getting fired before Vinny. I know they kind of punted on the season when they did the Iverson trade, but there’s no way they should be this bad.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
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We could finish ahead of them, but we somehow have a worse coach than Michael Curry
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Sorry, just got in from a meeting.
WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED?
Seriously, can I have a quick recap on what went wrong?
Be very grateful you didn't TIVO it.
Vinny DelNegro happened. Is there any need to go into details?
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 22, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
FRICKING...
Argh! Went through the posts above and my head is about to explode!
VDN played Hinrich major minutes
despite Hinrich playing his worst game of the season.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Salmons and Miller had good games.
That’s encouraging. Since I didn’t see the game, I have to ask…think he should start over Noah?
Probably not, now that Noah has played himself into shape.
At Miller’s age, he will likely be most effective if kept in the 28 min/game range.
Miller has enough offensive skills that Noah can play the 4 with him, when Tyrus is on the bench for rest or foul trouble.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm...where does this place Tim Thomas?
I seem to remember his “I’m better than Deng or Noce” statement before and his “I was worth 10 more victories” interview in the Skiles era.
Tim has mellowed since then.
And a good coach would realize 8-10 minutes if he is playing well is good enough. But this is Vinny so who knows if he can help foster this fledgling bench player into the 8-10 minutes a night guy we need.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
Granny Waiters is being too kind. That may have been Hinrich's worst game as a Bull.
And as everyone knows, Vinny likes to ride the cold hand.
When everything is running smoothly and in synch, his neurons start misfiring and he has an immediate need to throw a monkeywrench into the machine just to show everyone who is in charge.
Miller is going to be a big contributor once he gets acclimated, unless of course, Vinny decides to move Kirk to center, especially against teams like the Rockets .
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
Sure
5 – Hinrich
4 – Gordon
3 – Hunter
2 – Roberson
1 – Rose
Hope Vinny doesn’t read this, or he might try it.
unless of course, Vinny decides to move Kirk to center, especially against teams like the Rockets .
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Now you've done it. If Vinny ever reads this blog, he probably doesn't realize its sarcasm.
Don’t be surprised if this will be our 4th quarter rotation in a tight game with VDN figuring we could outpace them, especially against a weak sister like the Celtics.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Feb 22, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
If the 6'4" and under league was still around,
that lineup would work.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 22, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
Vinny just can't take on more than 7 player rotations
He handled Friday’s Nuggets game perfectly because he only had 7 players to work with. But, today he just didn’t know who to play at any given moment, so he just freaked out.
by LoveForTheGame on Feb 22, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
damn this guard glut
We should have traded Hinrich when we had the chance!
by LoveForTheGame on Feb 22, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
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