a Camby-esque dump in the offseason to a team under the cap. They could offer a first to get it done if necessary. Though it makes the idea that they could get more value than expirings even sillier

We come out of the trade dead line looking like we now have a solid 2010 plan where before the dead line it looked like we had no direction. We can either wait for the contracts of the newly acquired Bulls to expire and bid on the big names in the 2010 open market. Or instead use some of those players this coming offseason, along with Kirk and our two 1st rounders to trade for say Bosh or another one of those big names before the season starts.

I have to admit I didn’t stand up and give GarPaxdorf a standing O yesterday after it was all said it done but we did get rid of the Chuck Brothers (Hughes and Nocs), finally have a true center on our team even though he’s on the decline, a true two guard even though I don’t know why some many teams wanted this guy and cmon we have Tim Thomas now … can’t wait for the Tony Yayo when he hits a 3 from the wing!!! These moves give our young bigs the time they need to continue to blossom and the time our team needs to see if Thomas and Noah are the real deal. Solomons coming to the Chi means Ben is gone but deep down I won’t miss him, his scoring yes but anyone that turns downs over 10 million is an ass to me.

Go going forward I wanna see this five things
1. The continues improvement of Rose, Thomas and Noah
2. Deng show up everyday in every way
3. Vinny improve as a coach
4. Solomons proving me wrong and actually being what we need
5. Making the playoffs or Missing the playoffs and both Denver and Phoenix doing the same

So let’s embrace the start of a new day Bulls Fans, will these dead line moves pay off or will GarPaxDorf prove the more heads are better then one theroy wrong!!!!

the day they bench him it’s over.

Kirk’s to blame because he makes too much to be a 3rd guard.

He would’ve had to blow it all up.

Back to the games!

>gets destroyed by tall 2s that can post

So twice a year someone will post him up once or twice a game? Name these SG’s who play the post regularly and effectively? I can only think of a few.

Why would we want Gordon to guard the 3?

The fact he put up 18 a game in Sacromento is a lot different than putting up 18 a game with a PG that shoots a little and a team in a playoff hunt. If Ben Gordon was on Sacromento where nothing mattered I think he’d get 24 25 a game. So its not a wash on offense.

Defensively it looks great. I’m not Vinny ( thank god) but I’m not sure I’d want to make the decision next week of how to start games with either Ben or Salmons. Let’s say they play a team like ATL with Joe Johnson at the 2 who does Vinny start?

Truthfully I’m still skeptical about Salmons and Tim Thomas. Salmons seems like a guy who just figured out he can put up shots on a bad team and of course the Thomas. But I guess thats not fair to judge them on that.

They’ve also replaced 20-year old Tyrus Thomas with 22-year old Tyrus Thomas. Hopefully that ends up being the biggest upgrade of all.

I can hear Beyonce singing that DirectTV upgrade song in my head as I type

Some think Gar Foreman and Jerry Reinsdorf are making them.

Thus . . . Gar Paxdorf

Quite possibly dumbest post ever

“Who the hell can we trick into taking Hughes” is a bad question. “Dang, TT is playing up to his potential and now we either have to pay him or lose him” is a much better problem to have. Of course we’ll probably end up in the no mans land where TT is playing well, but not as good as someone else, but we would have to move him just to have a “chance” at the other player, blah, blah, blah. The good news for BaB is, we will have so much more to argue about. TT or 2010?

that the Bulls would still be in a very good position to make a sign and trade as well.

swissmeister guy (okay i dont remember his nick completely) went….the guy who personally knows thabo….is he still gonna be posting here or was he basically holding the same philosophy as sue was (no offense to sue at all) meaning that when the player they were rooting for leaves the team, so does the blogger…..i was just wondering……thank you for your time….

Thunder games because of Collison so now I’ll get to see Thabo too. I hope he does well there.

He was expecting his first game with the Bulls to be Sunday at Indiana.

said that they won’t take their physicals until “tonight”. So I’m guessing that means they won’t play until Sunday.

Starting lineup is the same, but who do we have on the bench besides Kirk, Aaron, and Lindsey?

So crossing fingers for no foul trouble for the bigs and that Lu shows up, or we’re going to see a version of small ball that’s pretty hideous. (Unless I’m forgetting some long unseen player, but that’s hardly much better.)

As well as Sef in OKC. Durant is finally starting to get some buzz from the league and I really like Thabo, so I am interested to see how that goes. I like Noc, but I don’t want to watch a minute of the Kings. They suck and are terrible on the eyes to watch. But have fun JJ.

Am I weird if I’m almost as excited to see Noc’s first game with the Kings as I am to see the new look Bulls?

I’m eager to see all our former players in other systems.

the Bulls suck.

Paxson also said that their phone was ringing off the hook for Kirk. So if not the Wolves offer, and if there was another offer out there to move him for expirings, why not pull the trigger?

Isn’t Ben already an expiring?

(I sent this to Doug via email as well (he really wanted me to see this comment, heh), as a disclaimer)

What if Thabo was included in a deal to Minny (or dumped to OKC like he eventually was?)

By my calculations, that’s $568,840 additional salary this season (still under the tax), and a $5,509,630 savings next season. Likely not ‘enough’, they perhaps could beat that in the offseason. But it’s a risk.

When he turned down the contract last summer…It was only his fans that have been clinging to that sliver of a possibility that he would return.

With that said, I am surprised that the Bulls positioned themselves such that a sign and trade is unlikely…I still hold out hope the Bulls will sign and trade him for something…perhaps someone like Jerry Stackhouse, who only has $2M guaranteed next season….

if we didn’t even get a starter in return.

it was likely leaked from Pritchard trying to salvage his mythical status after failing to use the RLEC.

We had a $5M trade exception to cover the difference. The Blazers had plenty of expendable guys making that much or less.

I suspect you offered nothing at all that made the Bulls want to trade Deng is all.

no, but one of the very few.

So yeah, Thabo should start for them on SG since he is Weaver’s “best case” according to DraftExpress ;-)

I really don’t like the ESPN NBA writers but I clicked on the website today and Thabo’s picture with Best Trade written underneith it made me click onto the daily dime. 4 of the 6 writers said OK City had the best deadline because they aquired Thabo ( defensive minded shooting guard).
Good for Thabo getting some props nationally.

Bulls recieved 1 vote and Magic recieved the other. I think the Magic getting Skip to my Lou was the most important because he can weather the storm and at least give the Magic a shot against the Cavs and Celts.

definitely not an all world player, but every bit as efficient as Noc (and no I’m not bothering to look up any stats to prove that).

If he can be a 3-pt chucker and plays bad D, then we’ll have the Noc angle covered perfectly. It will be like he never left.

But add in the contracts and I take Tim Thomas before Nocioni. It’s just a business decision.

It’s alarming to read anything about Tim Thomas producing in Phoenix. D’Antoni ball is a gift to NBA journeymen that just want to jack shots and play no defense. Tim Thomas got to dip, eat, and dip again.

when the In number is bigger in 08-09 and smaller in 09-10?

I’ve always thought Thomas was OK to deal with, though it will be interesting when he arrives as he told me in an interview after he left the Bulls and had a great run with the Suns: “There really is no explanation for what happened. My understanding was they wanted to stick with their young core. The first excuse I got was I was out of shape. The second excuse was I was going to have a hard time playing for [coach Scott Skiles]. Then the season starts and I don’t play. We go to New Jersey (his home) and I play [eight] minutes. Then my wife is sideswiped by a cab in New York and I go home to check out the family, which is the most important thing. The next thing I know, I get a call and am told to stay home or come back if I want. So many different things happen in life, but I know I’m still a good player. I know I can still play in this league, and when I was about to get released, all the good teams called, the Suns, Spurs, Pistons, Nets. So that told me something.I know they could have used me.”

I was too harsh with Tim Thomas.

Haven’t heard about Salmons, Thomas, Roberson, and James.

Miller said he won’t play – I guess Salmons could? I don’t see how the New York trade guys could get here and cleared in a single day.

Plus, we have no control over how quickly the other team does physicals and all, and they don’t have quite the same player shortage issues to motivate them.

even after getting over the tax threshhold, it’s possible that insurance money softens the blog of the actual tax tab. But why bother if you’re Reinsdorf. Cite the economy, throw up your hands, and cash some checks.

if we’re -10 or more entering the 4th quarter. Vinny uses it to get back into games and it only works if shots fall.

Tim Thomas and John Salmons arriving doesn’t help us defensively at all. I hope these guys can hit shots outside of all offense systems like D’Antoni and Sacramento.

situation: Bulls make trade with Kings, what do you think?

Gordon: Brad Miller will help us by creating space and better shot opportunities

Deng: ::cries::

(we know which response Reinsdorf prefers)