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Jerome James Mea Culpa

When the Hughes to the Knicks trade went down, I authored a couple posts speculating that James could be retired and come off our cap.  After reading up more carefully, it looks like I was dead wrong about this so I wanted to make a straightforward post that folks would see.

Sorry to get anyone's hopes up.

The CBA FAQ Question 53, in full, reads:

How do retired players count against the cap?

Any money paid to a player is included in team salary, even if the player has retired. For example, James Worthy retired in 1994, two years before his contract ended. He continued to receive his salary for the 1994-95 and 1995-96 seasons, so his salary was included in the Lakers' team salary in those seasons. It is at the team's discretion (or as the result of an agreement between the team and player) whether to continue to pay the player after he has retired.

There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is not included in the team's team salary. This is when a player is forced to retire for medical reasons and a league-appointed physician confirms that he is medically unfit to continue playing. There is a waiting period of one year following the injury or illness before a team can apply for this salary cap relief. If the waiting period expires mid-season (on any date prior to the last day of the regular season), then the player's entire salary for that season is removed from the team's team salary. For example, in March 2003 the Knicks were allowed to remove Luc Longley's entire 2002-03 salary from their books (and since the luxury tax is based on the team salary as of the last day of the regular season, the Knicks avoided paying any tax on Longley's salary). This provision can also be used when a player dies while under contract.

If the player "proves the doctors wrong" and resumes his career, then his salary is returned to his team's team salary when he plays in his 10th game in any one season (including pre-season, regular season and playoff games). This allows a player to attempt to resume his career without affecting his team unless his comeback is ultimately successful. A team loses this salary cap relief even if the player later signs and plays 10 games with a different team.

Teams are not allowed to trade for disabled players and then apply for this salary cap relief. Only the team for which the player was playing when he was disabled may request this relief.

If a player retires, even for medical reasons, his team does not receive a salary cap exception to acquire a replacement player.

So yeah, that sucks.  That means he won't come off our cap.and we've effectively taken on an additional $9.3M in guaranteed salary for next year. Bye Ben.

That leaves the following possible uses for James:

* Scrub our cap by trading him to a team under the cap. I'd imagine if the Bulls really wanted to they could pawn him to a team under the cap. Since insurance is going to supposedly pay 80% of his $6.6M contract, the receiving team would be liable for only $1.32M, which we could reimburse with cash (and add another million and a half or so for their trouble).

* As a trade chip. Like a mini Raef LaFrentz, we could include James in a trade to another team, who wouldn't have to pay most of his salary.  Could help in round II of the Amare/Bosh talks.  One can dream, right? 

* As a multifaceted way for the Bulls to spend less.  He's on the books for $6.6M, meaning they can't sign anyone else, but he actually only costs the Bulls $1.3M.  Hurray for operating income.

 

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you son of a...

big ups to my Dad, who was was right about this when I brought it up to him over the phone. I guess it just happened to the Knicks themselves when they acquired Cuttino Mobley. Damnit.

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 19, 2009 9:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wait...

Sports2 is your dad?!?

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Feb 20, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

(I kid)

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Feb 20, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There's another possible use for James

He can act as a one-man stimulus for the Chicagoland economy, or at least the fast food portion of it.

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by Big D on Feb 19, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

May the Trash Bag eat @ Fast Food joints forever!!!!!

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by pookeyguru on Mar 2, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not good

I’m still holding out hope for a summer-time trade of Kirk…though that looks bleak right now.

http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/

by NormVanBeer on Feb 19, 2009 11:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

because we'd pretty much have to deal him to a team under the cap to get the savings we need to resign

Ben Gordon without hitting the luxury tax. Otherwise, no can do.

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by fundamentallysound on Feb 20, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thats just one of many reasons to trade Kirk

That makes keeping BG look bleak. Does it make trading Kirk look bleak?

by reprisal on Feb 20, 2009 1:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

in a way...

it sounds like there were several opportunities to do so over the past couple of days, but for whatever reason (there are conflicting stories out there) the trigger wasn’t pulled.

The Bulls have this strange idea that Kirk’s value will magically rise by the end of the year, but my question to that is…WHY?

http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/

by NormVanBeer on Feb 20, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

because

he’s about to start averaging 30 ppg, 12 ast and 5 stls per game?

by M 80 on Feb 20, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Then you can trade Rose.

But I wouldn’t count on it !

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on Feb 20, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh well, fun thought while it lasted

thnx for double-checkin’. i’m sure we all would have been spouting this as truth for the next year. good work.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Feb 20, 2009 8:24 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I thought James was out just for this season

And you would get his insurance reimbursement (80%), which helps to pay for him/the additional luxury tax yet doesn’t take his salary off the cap. Is he now likely long-term injured and out for the next season also?

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by Norsktroll on Feb 20, 2009 8:25 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Reportedly

Yes.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Feb 20, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the update Sports2

I did read your post with great hope yesterday. What you are saying today isn’t inconsistent with may things you said. Here is my take on this:

If James does not play for medical reasons we can file for a Medical Exemption during the 2009-10 season. HE WOULD COME OFF THE CAP IF THE MEDICAL EXEMPTION IS GRANTED. Of course this is beyond this summer but if the Bulls are confident James will not return they may assume his $6.6 million will come off the cap making it very possible to sign BG without going into the luxury tax.

by chgobr on Feb 20, 2009 10:15 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

no, you misread this correction

he won’t come off the cap for the bulls at all. read the bolded part.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Feb 20, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is like the Darius Miles

situation. If we can force James to retire for medical reasons then we can get him off of the cap. If James plays next season for a certain number of games it will count agains our cap.

What was the process that Portland took? Did they hire a mediator and had Miles see a number of doctors?

by J Theory on Feb 20, 2009 2:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

re-read the bolded part

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Feb 20, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Screw this, Paxson needs to step up his asshole game

Like KP and just force James to retire. It was an issue for like, what, 1 week before everyone stopped caring?

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 20, 2009 4:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

re-read the bolded part

bulls can’t get him off the cap

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Feb 20, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I only understand lol-speak

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 20, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know

It was a joke (obviously a bad one).

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 20, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ahh, i get it

just, you know, the third one in a row referencing that, and i’m not sure the first two were jokes. my mind wasn’t in the right mode to get it. sorry about that.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Feb 21, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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