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Cameron, Chicago: I had read that OKC was going to be gunning for Ben Gordon this summer. Does the trade for Chandler change that?
Chad Ford: Depending on where they pick in the draft, the team will still have something like $7 to $8 million in cap space left. That's probably more than enough to get Ben Gordon.

Wow, I'll laugh if after twice turning down 10 mil a year the slumping economy and lower salary cap dictate BG signing for 7 million with the Thunder

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no shit

even if it was starting at $7m, by that calculation he’s getting $40.6m and combining that with the QO he’s at $47m for the 6 years.

Not to mention anyone sounds like a dumbass if they’re happy Gordon took less money to play elsewhere because he’d be playing elsewhere.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd, that salary calculator is cool find

Ben’s going to be pissed about not getting a raise this offseason, but it might open the possibility of a short-term contract, something that wasn’t in play before. I could see Ben signing a 2 year / 16 mil deal and give free agency another go in a better market, which I think is the perfect situation for us.

by YaoPau on Feb 17, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Just FYI, 3 years at a time to keep "bird rights"

hence, why some speculate he might take the MLE for 3 years this year in NYC, to run w/ D’Antoni for three years and score 25 ppg.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Feb 17, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's do some math

8.75 million x 5 years = 43.75 million. I don’t think a 7 million difference warrants the “approximately” sign. And 8.75 is higher than what Chad for suggested. I was going off Chad’s numbers, and 7 million at 5 years is 35 million.

Now Ben wanted more money than Deng. Correct if I’m wrong, but I believe he was looking for 10-12 million a year. He wasn’t going to get 12 but the Bulls offered somewhere around 9-10, right? If the Bulls offered 10 and his arrogance leaves him with having to take 7 million? Well that’s 15 million dollars he’s lost out on. I think that right there is pretty funny.

Oklahoma may have Durant but he’ll also be living in Oklahoma. And he’ll also be in the western conference where the Thunder still will have to deal with the Lakers, Jazz, Hornets, Blazers, and Spurs for the next few years.

Now whether the Bulls should have offered him more money is one issue, but him refusing to take what was offered and winding up with less, thats funny.

by The90sBullsRevival on Feb 17, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

His contract would escalate per year each year. He loses out on some money, but not much

and its a lot less funny when you realize that he’ll be playing for someone else next year and we’ll be stuck with Kirk freakin Hinrich as our starting two guard.

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by fundamentallysound on Feb 17, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe 90sBulls has a special sense of humor

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahahahahaha,

we’re going to be horrible.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
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by Prevenge on Feb 18, 2009 4:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't see how OKC can sign him.

They’re going to have around $54 million tied up in salary and draft pick free agent amounts. Salary cap will be around $59 million at most.

This trade ends the Ben Gordon to the Thunder stuff. If they didn’t trade for Krstic, they’d have a realistic shot at him, but not any more. They just don’t have the money.

I would say right now, Gordon re-signs with the Bulls, signs with the Knicks for the MLE, or sign and trade. I don’t see him signing outright with anyone (Memphis/Hawks I believe can do so) now that Miami/OKC are out.

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by Andrew7 on Feb 17, 2009 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

where do you get $54m?

I have it at $48m considering players. Is it that much for the cap hold on the picks?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

From the Hoopshype Numbers.

It’s $50.5 million adding up their salary numbers. Then I just allotted $3.5 million for their draft picks, which is a low estimate even.

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by Andrew7 on Feb 17, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Chucky Atkins is non guaranteed

Here’s their salary outlook.

I’ve got them at $50.6M
- $2.8M (Chucky Atkins)
+ $1M (Serge Ibaka)
+ $4M Draft pick
= $52.8M.

Figure the salary cap at anywhere up to $61M, giving them probably $8.2M. Enough to make a reasonable but not overpowering offer for Gordon or another FA. They could, of course, also shed other salary before then.

They’ll have 11-12 players under contract, so they won’t have any meaningful cap holds.

by Sports2 on Feb 17, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't see the salary cap growing to $61 million.

That was my estimate before the economy went in the toilet. I think minimal growth to $59 million is the most likely. That only leaves them with $6.2 million, using your figure for them, to spend on Gordon. The Bulls could beat that offer with very little effort.

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by Andrew7 on Feb 17, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Even $59 million...

Could be a little optimistic for the cap next season…

Even though the Bulls could beat any offer he receives next season, they don’t have the right to match, and may not be willing to beat another offer…but at least we could sign and trade for Nick Collison…

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is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger

by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 17, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I would

love to see a sign and trade for Ben

by LOTP on Feb 17, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

broken record

seriously, have you ever said anything else on this board?

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by NormVanBeer on Feb 17, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I see...

Tyson Chander – $12.25
Collison – $6.35
Watson – $6.6
Kristic – $5.16
Durant – $4.8
Westbrook – $3.75
Green – $3.56
Wilkins – $3.3
White – $1.04
Weaver – $.87

Atkins is unguaranteed, according to Shamsports.

That equals $47.68. W/ the cap hold of a their pick between $3.5 – $4.0 = $51 – 51.68 million. That leaves about $7 million. And if they happen to win a couple of games or get knocked down a draft spot or two, that’s a bit more.

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by tyger1147 on Feb 17, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd laugh if Gordon wasn't on this team

Because then I read a thousand blog posts telling me why Thabo Sefolosha could easily average 17 points a game as the starting SG.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
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by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2009 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

That is not a laughing matter

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by Illini15 on Feb 17, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

um, it's called ball movement.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, he can lose the ball just as good as Gordon. Better, even.

I dunno about everything else, but if there’s one skill Thabo has of Gordon’s, it’s that.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
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by Prevenge on Feb 18, 2009 4:55 AM CST up reply actions  

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