Roman Modrowski: Bosh to Bulls, Amare to TO, the usual to Phoenix ??
Well, not him, but "one person who does have a couple strong NBA connections":
don't be surprised if Amare Stoudemire heads to Toronto, Chris Bosh comes to the Bulls and a package featuring Drew Gooden and Tyrus Thomas heads to Phoenix.
No deal, mystery man: I will be surprised.
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If ------ which is a big if, this could be real, I like this better than Amare.
I just do not understand why Phoenix would do this when Kerr and Gentry seem excited to play out the season with Stoudemire. I truly would pee in my pants if this were to happen. Too good to be true.
i like getting bosh more, also
but i don’t see it happening.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Of course this is better than Amare, Bosh would be a dream come true with our team...
and if the Amare trade never happens, and 365 days go by, and if Bosh hints to Toronto that he’s bolting for FA, well then the Bulls would try anything to trade for Bosh. But I cannot see this happening right now.
As someone pointed out in the Amare thread regarding this rumor,
Amare and Marion clashed for alpha dog status in Phoenix. What is so different about Toronto that would cause them to put their differences aside?
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unfortunately
it’s looking more and more like we’ll be getting NOTHING good come Thur.
No Amare
No Bosh
This sucks
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Why would Bryan Colangelo and Robert Sarver do any business with each other?
Both definitely hate each other.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
for the bulls sake?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm, can't we just have Amar'e??? Please dear lord?? please??
i like stat better than bosh. bosh is the 6"11 left handed tyrus thomas, all star yeah yeah, but we are in a conference that features Dwight and Lebron. Id rather have Amar’e the power forward of my All HYBRID TEAM, which by the way includes:
All HYBRID TEAM
C- Dwight Howard
PF- Amare Stoudemire
SF- Lebron James
SG- Dwayne Wade
PG- Derrick Rose
Having 2 out of the five is a good thing right?
Derrick Rose got Freakin Skillz. When are we going to add a 7th championship?
by broseleay301 on Feb 16, 2009 7:41 PM CST reply actions
Bill Russell was too short to play center in the NBA,
Charles Barkley was too short to play PF, and Isiah Thomas was too short to play point guard.
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Feb 16, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
Well, they do both play basketball
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
This is laughable, there's no way the Raps trade Bosh for Amare.
Bosh MIGHT leave Toronto, but there’s no frickin’ way Amare stays in Toronto beyond 2010. And Bosh is the better player for the next two years. This makes no sense, at all.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 16, 2009 7:59 PM CST reply actions
I tend to agree but will present some logic to refute because I want to pee in my pants.
Colangelo loves Amare; Phoenix needs to save money and …………………….. the rest is history
I have little doubt that Paxson would prefer Bosh to Amare.
VDN must have some pretty good stories about Amare and his poor defense.
if Pax is able to turn TT Gooden and filler into Bosh, he should win executive of the year.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 16, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lol executive of the year lol lol
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hey, I never said he could actually do it, just that IF he did, he should win.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 16, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Kwame Brown and Javaris Crittenton.
Were turned into Pau Gasol…? And who won executive of the year last year…
Danny Ainge.
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
I don't think I could criticize Paxson for 5 years if he could ever do that.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 16, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Same here...I'd piss myself if this trade went down
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Id give up being a hinrich fan if this went down!!!
(or try really really hard)
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
I can semi-confirm this.
When I was inquiring for Stoudemire information, I was told that the Bulls might make a run at Chris Bosh.
Wasn’t told anything about a potential three way though.
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by whom were you told? names or it didn't happen.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 16, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
It was one of the Chicago writers.
And the newspaper was independent of the Suntimes.
i won’t divulge the beatwriters name, as he/she didn’t give me expressed permission to do so.
But I received the information over 2 hours before Roman’s blog post. It wasn’t a “Check this out, Bulls might be in a three way with Toronto and Phoenix type of information”. It was just a passing comment, after saying that Phoenix is asking for a lot for Amare, that the Bulls might look for better value alternatives like Chris Kaman, or that they might even make a run at Bosh.
I didn’t think anything of it at the time, thus why I didn’t update my blog until after Roman’s blog post. It didn’t seem like there was any potential trade for Bosh from what I was told. But it seems there is some smoke regarding Chris Bosh with the passing comment on it that I was given, and now the Roman blog post that talks about the potential three way.
I hope that’s enough transparency for you.
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well, that's encouraging. It still doesn't really help with the Suns seemingly being underwhelmed
by the deals they’ve been offered for Amare. If the Suns don’t want to do the Amare deal, then I don’t see how this changes it, as all it does is send Amare somewhere else while getting back the same return for him.
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 16, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think the Bulls would prefer Bosh
That may be the hold-up. I know I’m stretching it but I want to hope this is real.
You think?
I know the bulls would prefer bosh!!! He can score as efficiently as amare while pulling down more boards and playing way better defense…..
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Unless they could get something thrown in from Toronto...
This, and get a couple of picks.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
Roko and Will Solomon stink, how does adding their salaries help anything?
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by fundamentallysound on Feb 16, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Well, don't add them, get Toronto's pick.
Why Toronto does that…
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
Tech N9ne says 50/50 for Amare.
Tech N9ne on RealGM says 50/50 chance the Bulls do a Thomas for Amare swap, but he isn’t going to divulge any information this time around to avoid messing anything up for the Bulls.
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Somehow, I don't really believe much of what that guy says anymore
He claims he’d be giving updates up to the trade deadline, but that hasn’t happened. And his Amare “update” was nothing we didn’t already know.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
At this point, every angle has been covered
On why Phoenix wants to trade him, why Chicago wants him, and the counter-points for both sides. Either Phoenix wants to get rid of him, or they don’t. I doubt there’s any waffling on Chicago’s side anymore.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 16, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Bad news
ESPN is reporting Amare is not going to be moved.
There are suddenly strong signals emanating from the desert that the coaching change announced Monday by the Phoenix Suns will be the only big personnel change they make this week.
After the Suns spent several days taking and making phone calls on potential trades for Amare Stoudemire and Shaquille O’Neal, NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com that Phoenix — having received a series of underwhelming proposals for Stoudemire — prefers now to leave its core intact for the rest of the season to see if new coach Alvin Gentry can do more with this group than the outgoing Terry Porter.
“I got the impression today that [the Suns] are standing pat,” said one source with knowledge of the team’s thinking.
Said another source close to the situation: “That is very accurate.”
Don't read too much into it.
They talked about how they weren’t firing Porter too.
Unfortunately it looks like we will have to wait and see.
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It's true the offers are very underwhelming
They only reason I see to move Amare at this point is for pretty significant savings. I’ve laid out the finances of this several times, but it’s worth pointing out that the Bulls deal on the table really doesn’t do shit financially for the Suns.
If they could get a third team involved to get the Blazers under the tax (like throwing cash and/or a pick to Memphis, them maybe they could change the equation without altering the pieces they gave up.
its a bluff to improve offers.
duh. see ya’ll in three days.
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That is my thinking
Suns are bluffing, hoping for significantly better offers just before the deadline. Thursday should be interesting!
"Remeber, I'm Italian".
The array of mixed signals coming out of Phoenix
make me trend towards all possibilities rather than a specific set of Amare to Chicago, Amare to Portland, etc.
For all we know the Federal Stimulus package may have had an affect on Sarver’s “financial considerations”.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Bosh would be perfect.
Younger, no severe injuries, plays defense, smart, coachable. But for all those reasons…I don’t see us getting him. :(
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Brian Hanley Confirms
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/1434361,CST-SPT-bull17.article
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I noticed that too...
This lil nugget caught my eye as well:
Gar Forman, the Bulls’ director of player personnel who’s expected to become general manager once John Paxson gives up day-to-day duties, reportedly has taken the lead in the talks with the Suns.
That’s not huge in itself, but it actually makes me feel better that Forman is handling these talks instead of a beaten-down, tired, depressed, worn out, read-to-quit John Paxson.
http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/
isn't this a day-to-day duty?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
exactly
someone PLEASE put this guy out of his misery. It would be a help to everyone involved (the org, the players, the staff, the fans, etc).
His current day-to-day duties probably consist of him crying in a corner somewhere, with JR patting him on the back saying “it’ll be ok”
Seriously though, if he’s not involved in the trade talks what is he doing? This is the time of the year (besides draft time) when he should be most active. Is he at home making cookies or something?
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by NormVanBeer on Feb 17, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
Also Mike McGraw mentions this
BOSH JOINS TRADE TALK
One rumor that surfaced late Monday was a three-team deal where the Bulls get Chris Bosh, Stoudemire goes to Toronto and the Bulls send the Tyrus Thomas, Drew Gooden, Thabo Sefolosha, draft picks package to Phoenix. I looked into it and was told it’s a conceivable scenario, but is a long way from becoming reality.
The Bulls would most likely be willing to add more draft picks to get Bosh instead of Stoudemire, which would benefit the Suns. The biggest question here is whether Toronto is ready to move Bosh. Maybe not, since Stoudemire might be just as likely to bolt as a free agent in 2010 as Bosh would.
I mean fuck, I didn’t buy this one bit but from the looks of things, Phoenix just wants more draft picks from the Bulls.
The Bulls would be willing to give up more draft picks if it included Bosh.
Toronto could also save themselves some public relations misery if they got a star like Amare in return.
And don’t mention how Amare would not want to go to Toronto. He’s already mentioned that his agent nor Suns management are informing him of what’s going on.
In all reality, this makes a lot more sense than I had initially thought.
I think it makes a lot of sense but also doubt that something like this is more likely to go down either in the summer or next deadline.
Meant to say
I also doubt that something like this goes down before this deadline and more likely to go down either in the summer or next deadline *
If the Suns are going to trade Amare, they'll want to do it now.
If they wait for the summer, they can’t get any contracts that expire this year, meaning they’d get no cap relief for next season. Since that’s one of the main reasons the trade is even alive, I would expect Amare to be traded by Thursday or not at all.
Amare would get to pick the next Toronto coach
and by pick I mean “general courtesy” which in the NBA means “hire my guy or I dog it forever”.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Plus the Bulls could move Noc to the Raps
for any kind of ‘assets’ (anything, really. anything!) to send to Phoenix as well.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Fuck
This is more than just some bullshit story
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would love to believe this
but unfortunately it will NEVER happen. One minute Pax can’t get the smallest of deals done, the next minute he pulls off one of the biggest (3 way) trades in the history of the NBA. Yeaaaaa…
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
Highly unlikely Paxson would be the one pulling any strings of significants...
Maybe Dorf or Heard…, but not a lame duck GM trying to quit and his Boss won’t let him.
But, regardless how it gets done.. I’d agree, get it done!
man up!
That would be so awesome
that it probably won’t happen.
I mean the odds are against this one. But it would be amazing for the Bulls.
The Game chose him !
Noce
Anway Toronto would take Noce too? If the papers were on my desk for Bosh, I wouldn’t get greedy. I would just sign the trade ASAP.
Crossing fingers
I would rather get Bosh instead of Amare.
The question that I have is; doesn’t Amare and Marion not get a long? And do the Raptors go after Nash in 2010?
by J Theory on Feb 17, 2009 8:28 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Good point
I woke up excited to see something happening, and now I don’t think anything will. :(
Exactly what I thought
Marion wanted out of Phoenix i think. Didn’t he even make some comment that he’d rather be “the guy” on a bad team than a piece on a good team?
This rumor is poo on a stick, nothing more.
Marion and Amare
I doubt there is personal animosity towards one another. I think the grumblings you heard were more about getting extended as compared to their personal feelings towards each other.
Marion still wants to be extended. I don’t know if Toronto wants to extend him at the contract he’ll demand.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Feb 17, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
heh
forgot about that myself. Maybe Bryan Colangelo really has some ‘getting the band back together’ persuasive powers.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Why would you ever pick up Nash
when you already have Calderon who gives you everything that Nash gives you but for less money while being 8 years younger?
I hate to use the word “underrated”, but if it applies to anybody, that person is Calderon.
He is from Canada
and has mentioned he might want to end his career there. It’s not like they will be paying him max money. He could come off the bench or start it doesn’t matter all I know is that he has mentioned the possibilty.
would they even need us
whats stopping phoenix trading amare to the raps for bosh, and maybe some draft picks in there?
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
Because we can give the Suns more cap relief.
Bosh and Amare basically make the same amount of money, so if the Suns wanted some expiring deals thrown in, they’d have to include Barbosa (getting the expiring deals of Parker and Graham back). Many stories have claimed that Barbosa is untouchable (I’m not sure why, but that’s the rumor). So a three-way with Chicago gives the Suns a combo of cap relief, young players, and draft picks that also allows them to keep everyone they like on their current roster.
i see
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
Bosh would be worse a smidgen of pride.
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Quick, someone get Krause and roll out the red carpet for Bosh
We need cheerleaders!!!
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
Does anyone here have an ESPN Insider account?
They got a link up there that’s updating the possible Bosh to Chicago deal.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
it's just a link to the Sun-Times article.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Ah, shoulda known.
That’s why I cancelled my “insider” in the 1st place, all it gets you is inside the papers you already can read for free.
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by Ugh It Live! on Feb 17, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
poopsworld
i tend to go there once i’ve filled my need at refriedbeans.com
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Unlike Amare... there's some deals I wouldn't do for Amare
But I’d literally trade the whole team but Rose to get back Bosh
I agree.
2 years younger, no major surgeries (though Bosh sits out more games than Amare when ’healthy’), better defender, less of a headcase, etc.
That’s worth including Noah.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 17, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
hate to see TT go
But for Bosh…. let’s get it done ASAP before someone changes their mind!
"Remeber, I'm Italian".
I think getting Bosh is something we ALL can agree on.
I was one of the people that didn’t want to give up TT and everything for Amare, but for Bosh… LETS DO IT!!!
Sif gonna happen...
Lol, sorry, being a Bulls fan its easy to be cynical. I should try and be more positive
Would be a dream come true if it were true though, Rose and Bosh. Wow
by rquinsee on Feb 17, 2009 5:07 PM CST reply actions
Could the Bulls go after Bosh directly?
If they plan on losing him anyway?
Plus the Bulls give up a 1st rounder here…
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=atft9g
That's a bit silly for one to think
That the Raps would trade all their SG’s. Why would they do that?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d3xj54
This seems more likely… but still the most likely is the 3 way with the Suns
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Feb 17, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
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