we should try to clear up capspace in order to get ready to sign him in 2010 if he so chooses to opt out. Id also try to find a way to somehow clear enough capspace to grab one of the sgs in 2010, i mean…..rose, hamilton, deng, stoudamire, noah……that sounds pretty good.

A low-post game isn’t absolutely necessary; it’s the ability to score inside on high-percentage shots.

Not that you were saying anything about that. I do agree, he is not a low-post player. This probably should have been a response to, “we need a low post option”.

We’d feature him in the post since, well, what other options do we presently have down there?

I do think we’ll pay far too much to get this from Amare as the net gains will be marginal when factoring salary costs with the sacrificial lamb being defense.

if a trade does not include an extension to his contract. It would be foolish to trade anything by excess parts (e.g. Gooden, Noc, Hughes, Hinrich) for 1-1/3 seasons of “renting” Stoudemire, since the Bulls are not contending for a championship next year either way.

I crap on the Hinrich lovers quite a bit, I understand where they are coming from. They watched him come up from a rookie and develop into a pretty good player and then had to watch him regress to merely average. With Tyrus, I watched him in the tournament and fell in love with his shot-blocking, aerial dunks, and his emotional leadership of that LSU team. I wanted the Bulls to draft him on draft day and was thrilled when we got him. He’s probably my favorite Bull, even ahead of Derrick Rose, despite the fact that I know Derrick is the better and more important player. I’ll be sad to see Tyrus go if he does, but it doesn’t mean I won’t be hoping that Amare lays waste to the East as we make a run at the playoffs. Plus, it’s not like Tyrus dies if he goes to Phoenix, we’ll still be able to watch him if we want, and he’ll probably be on nationally televised games more because the Suns always get a lot of games. I don’t know how much an Amare trade will help, but if it goes down, I will still follow Tyrus’s career, but root for Amare to dunk on his head whenever we play against the Suns.

it was a laughable trade. the idea he’d be available, buddy, not so much. :-)

who criticizes BG, I like BG a lot….but while we might get on BG for defense and are still excited for Amar’e because Amar’e can get into the lane and score as a big, and is athletic enough to when he wants to play D (he’s not 6 inches smaller than the man he guards—though BG’s listed as 6 3, come on now, he’s got to be 6 foot tops).

I’d like em both, and have always thought BG was very important to us in the pre Rose days because he was the only offense we had (And his offense oft put us on top)….now move that kind of production in a role that’s 10 feet closer to the basket, and a guy that can perform with the best of them in the league, and yes folks are going to prefer Stat.

Stoudemire is TALL.

Case closed.

neither has CP3, Lebron, Howard, or Bosh. I guess you don’t want those guys either.

way to show your hand, NBAO.

because this HAS to be “Talk Out Of Your Ass” week right?

if you and I can see that Hinrich is league average, you can bet the people who do this for a living know he’s average.

bookcomment presupposes is… maybe he didn’t?"

Elite point guards available: Zero.

The Blazers are delusional if they think they’re moving RLEC for an elite point guard. Is the oxygen up there really just one giant bong hit? I thought it was just a legend.

I still hate him after he took that huge what was it $100M deal from Orlando, played in 50% of the games to ruin that franchise for the 6-7 yrs he was there for, then as he finally started to get healthy and they lucked into the Dwight Howard and Jameer Nelson picks, he turned down their 2-3 yr $4M/yr deal to go to Phx for $2M a year for 2-3 years.

That was bullshit. He should have pulled a Kerry Wood of the last few years before this upcoming one and played for $1M even though he could have had more on the open market, because he felt he owed it to the team.

I said that up there when I said I know they said he ain’t going anywhere but bear with my fantasy

Fuck that.

With Gordon I see a couple of possibilities. Other things being equal, I think we’d have $5-6M before we hit the LT threshold if that trade went through. That’s not enough to keep Ben. Our options as I see them would be:

1. Since we’re getting/are stuck with JRich, we might do well to try and flip Gordon immediately. A player like Childress, Collison or Haslem would be pretty darn useful to us in the world I outlined and might be gettable for BG.

2. The other thing is that since we’re unlikely to be under the cap in 2010, or at least face a murkier situation, it makes it a bit less harmful to move Hughes immediately and take on post 2010 salary. A team like the Clippers (Kaman), Nets (Carter), Knicks (Jeffries + a useful young player), or Pacers (Tinsley + a useful player or Murphy) might be had. That could do some combination of filling out our roster and potentially opening up enough cap room to sign Gordon.

But at the end of the day, I do think I’d probably lean toward trading BG in that situation. I think he might be able to bring something useful and it’s hard to see keeping him and JRich.

Perhaps Larry Hughes for Troy Murphy and Gordon (with Thabo as sweetener if necessary?) for Childress could be arranged?

It looked like he tweaked his left ankle trying to defend Prince. He was limping back on offense, but then the toughjuice settled in and he just kept on playing.

they’re on the cusp now. if they get significantly better (like with Amare), then they might be a higher seed, more press coverage, possible 2nd round playoff team.

and he’s still losing his bird rights anyway, so even if “he earns what he thinks he’s owed”, only a select few teams will be able to give it to him.

Throughout NBA history players have made money on hot playoff series.GM’s around the league either can’t spend because of the recession ( Suns Hornets) or are saving up til 2010 ( Det NY) Gordon should take a chance of being a star in the playoffs for a team that will be in the playoffs more than 5 games.

but not THAT sick of it.

Though could be fantastic, but they’d have to lose Richardson first (And I didn’t click on your link so maybe you said that)….

With Richardson, there’s no deal.

Will these guys just not get the max deals they want / deserve?

for the most part.

Lebron, Amare, Mo Williams is one scary behemoth in our division. This would be terrible for us.

and the money the team would make from merchandising and playoff ticket sales over the term of their contracts would make up for it. Everyone can try to make a run at LBJ but ultimately CLE can offer the most money and years and if they bring in Amare, he has absolutely no reason to leave. He and Amare would own the league for the next 7 to 8 years.

they’re already picking up insurance checks based on his medical retirement. (or something)

…this says the Bulls actually get worse and the Suns get better.