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Isola had the odd report: He said that his sources "inside the Knicks organization" have told him that they believe Amare has already been traded to an Eastern Conference team, but that it won't be announced until after the Allstar game so as not to mess things up with him being voted in as a West starter. His sources with the Knicks told him they believe the trade was with Miami or Chicago.

Sam Smith: He refutes Isola's sources and says that no trade has occurred. He went through a bunch of stuff about why the Bulls should or shouldn't do the trade. Here is his unique addition: He said the Suns have informed the Bulls that they have "a better offer from another Eastern Conference team" than what the Bulls are offering, but Sam doesn't know who the team is or what the offer is. He speculated this could be nothing more than a bargaining ploy.

Other Bulls Stuff: Smith said that regardless of what happens with Amare, the Bulls "will make a trade this month." He than said that he's certain that Hughes is on the move and that it is "very likely" that Nocioni will be traded as well. He was not stating these things as speculation.

Amare stuff is kinda bizarre. Other stuff sounds spectacular!
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If a trade had been agreed upon, why would the team acquiring him allow the Suns to play him in any more games?

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by snley on Feb 11, 2009 4:56 PM CST reply actions  

Perhaps the deal was contingent upon waiting past the break

I think that’s understandable. All-star games don’t come around often, and the last thing Suns marketing dept needs is for a recent “your fans are pissed you just dealt your superstar” story to overshadow the rest of the weekend.

by YaoPau on Feb 11, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Their fans might not be pissed though

A lot of thier fans might actually be happy to be rid of him.

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by Big D on Feb 11, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't imagine the Suns fanbase

is on board with scrapping the entire team then build around your 35 year old point guard idea, especially when they were oh so close a couple years back. You could be right though, I don’t know for sure either way.

by YaoPau on Feb 11, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

if Nocioni and Hughes are both gone, the trading deadline has been a success. Amare or no Amare.

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by fundamentallysound on Feb 11, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions  

And IF Noch and Hughes are gone and we have Amare

This trade is as great as getting pick number 1 last lottery.

And if Noch and Hughes are gone and we have Amare and Have the Cap Space to sign Ben Gordon then this trade is as great as Jordon hitting that shot in utah a decade or so ago

And if Noch and Hughes are gone, we have Amare and the cap space to sign bg, and it is no longer imperetive to get rid of kirk hinrich….ill believe im dreaming.

:)

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Feb 11, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Fakest thing i've ever heard

These types of things just don’t happen in the NBA

by illini23 on Feb 11, 2009 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

Assume Amare Stoudemire isn't available and there is no talk of him.

Assume the Bulls are playing the same as now. Assume the rest of this FanShot is true (Hughes and Nocioni likely gone).

How the heck excited are you right now? Seriously.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Feb 11, 2009 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

Amen

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Feb 11, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

At this point who cares if Hughes is gone?

I don’t understand why people want that so bad still. The guy is not even dressing for games. The only reason he needed to go earlier in the year was because of the fear that he would be taking minutes from better players. On the other hand, the news about Noc is a definite positive.

"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)

by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 11, 2009 6:05 PM CST reply actions  

I believe he is only quiet right now

because he expects to be traded….if he doesnt get traded he could easily become a distraction……i think he might be that kind of player too. And if he talks the media will definetly listen….

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Feb 11, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly, what the hell can he do about it?

If he makes noise you send him home

"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)

by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 11, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

well since Pax seems willing to do that

you can (probably) assume or at least imagine that he is taking that into consideration when trading him for something?

by reprisal on Feb 11, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Was this posted

just to torture movie? This is like a Battlestar Galactica episode. Cliffhangers! Secrets and suspense!

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Feb 11, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

arg

“just to torture me?”

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by MPG on Feb 11, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Amare is the last cylon

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 11, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

We can all guess where Hughes is headed...

but the Nocioni thing has me stumped…Toronto? Really?

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Feb 11, 2009 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

Guessing

I know we have discussed potential destinations for Noce before, but I still cannot find a home for him.

Toronto?
Portland?

by Jesse07 on Feb 12, 2009 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Heck, as long as it involves a shorter contract,

I’m all for it.

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by MPG on Feb 12, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Could Noce contract be added to trade exception?

Im not quite sure the rules. The CBA would allow Noce + 5.2 trade exception for 1 player at 13 mil? If this is true, this might open a new window on where to move Noce. A team that wants to stay competive but save some $. Like a JRich for Noce in a seperate deal. Im not saying the Suns would go for this in a seperate trade, but for arguements sake.Im Not saying the SUns would go for this, but this might be another avenue on where Noce is going.

by Jesse07 on Feb 12, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't quite work like that. The TPE can only be used to take back a single player

and that player’s salary must be less than or equal to the size of the trade exception. So the TPE can not be combined with Noc’s salary.

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by fundamentallysound on Feb 12, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank you.

Didn’t think so, but thank you. The trade exception would give a lot of flexibility if it could be used like that. How do you think the trade exception is going to be used? Where is Noce’s final destination?

by Jesse07 on Feb 12, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Lakers?

For Ariza or Vujacic? Hmmm…maybe a bit unlikely.
GS Warriors for Randolph?

by PatBull on Feb 12, 2009 9:52 AM CST reply actions  

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