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not good.
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
oh my
it may be worth it to see how the same Portland fans to laughed at the idea that they’d trade their precious LMA to being completely on board with the deal.
If I were the Suns I’d rather have TT than the jump-shooting ninny. But Bayless is a nice throw-in.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 10, 2009 11:59 PM CST reply actions
They want to win now.
Aldridge works with Shaq specifically BECAUSE he’s a jumpshooter who’s afraid of the paint.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
As a
Bulls/Suns fan in the SW desert, my only solace in this idiotic Amare trade was Tyrus and Thabo (your D-League wonder!)
The Colangelos always had top notch PGs (and never a big man ‘til Amare, and then Shaq!), but Thabo looks like more of a PG than Bayless to me. And LMA? Well I’ll be nice and just say I never liked him, so YUCK!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Roy, oden, lma, rudy, bayless
are all top ten players in the minds of blazers fans. They are even worse than pax loving kirk and noc
Well....
Roy actually is in the top ten.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 12, 2009 6:24 AM CST up reply actions
This is bullshit
Amare Stoudemire has complained every day since Terry Porter became the new coach that he doesn’t like playing in their new offense. The Blazers play at a mind-numbingly slow pace. And he’s the exact kind of player (or at least carries the rep) that Portland brass has tried to stay away from.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
is it the pace, or his touches relative to Shaq's?
(I don’t know, asking genuinely)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 11, 2009 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
maybe its just PHX
Marion wanted out, got traded, got worse. D’Antoni leaves in a generally unpleasant way, team gets worse, doing a great job with an awful knicks roster. They hire Terry Porter, the defense gets even worse, he might get canned way before VDN even if VDN stays the same. Amare wants out, Nash is playing significantly worse, etc.
I'd say it's the pace
D’Antoni is the coach for more than half the season when Shaq came in last year, Amare actually played better. Shaq was used properly as the supporting role player to defend the post and provide rebounding help. Terry Porter is crazed to think he’s dumping it to Shaq from the Lakers while Amare Stoudemire becomes more disinterested in the team.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 11, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
it sucks being in an offense that doesnt inflate your point totals
but the problem is that the suns have no defense. Amare needs someone to play help defense down low…not shaqs forte at this point in his career and that’s where marion helped. And Steve Nash is a turn style. Because of it, every aspect of their team has crumbled this year.
So they want a frontcourt that features 2 guys with massive injury histories?
Go Portland!!!!!!
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
don't forget Brandon 'heel growth' Roy
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 11, 2009 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
Now that's a big three you can count on!!!!!!
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Isn't that Portland's M.O.?
Walton, Bowie, Sabonis, etc…
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 11, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And crazy drug addicts!
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 11, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
We haven't heard anything about that all year
It was a big deal in the off season, people were talking about him having to get surgery and what not. But nobody has mentioned it since the season started.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 12, 2009 6:29 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe the Suns are spewing bullshit to increase other teams' offers?
I really don’t see why Portland would do this.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
somehow, I'm not sure how yet
this is us being Pritchslapped. How does he do it?!?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 11, 2009 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
The BE thread is hilarious right now, if you haven't seen it
I’m guessing it will have about 750 posts by tomorrow morning
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
I would do this in a heartbeat if i was portland.
Maybe its from watching what happened to our amazing core of young’uns. Rudy/Roy/Outlaw/Stat/Oden for the future is a pretty damn good squad. And what team has ever won a ship with a soft power forward?
I doubt Pritchard is bluffing.
their D has been a major problem as of late
with Amare, it will only get worse
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
if oden becomes a force, which he will be
assuming he isnt in a wheel chair in a few years, they wont have any problems with that. Shaq can’t move or jump anymore + no more marion = all blame goes to amare…rightfully so, but he can be effective if there is help around him.
I'm not sold on Oden. Dude can't stay on the court because he can't stop fouling people.
He’s not that athletic and he had knee surgery already before playing a single NBA game. He’s going to be a bust, especially in light of how tremendously awesome Kevin Durant is going to be.
Vinny discovers frontcourt by accident. Someone re-smash Gooden’s groin!
- your friendly BullsBlogger
by fundamentallysound on Feb 11, 2009 1:08 AM CST up reply actions
he's got a while to develop but the talent is there
dude is what 20 years old…We’ve seen how long its taken for Noah and Thomas to even show signs.
Noah was good right from the beginning and Tyrus was good whenever he got minutes
also, those guys are both more athletic than Oden and don’t have the injury history that he does. Oden looks like a creaky old man out there.
Vinny discovers frontcourt by accident. Someone re-smash Gooden’s groin!
- your friendly BullsBlogger
by fundamentallysound on Feb 11, 2009 1:27 AM CST up reply actions
Noah was older as a rookie than Oden is now
It’s easy to forget how young/athletic he is since he looks like an old man, though if I was a blazer’s fan I’d hold my breath every time he jumped.
Well, fouling is probably the easiest rookie problem that can be fixed...
….almost simply with “experience”. Thomas’s fouls have gone down, and they were/are both at 6.0/6.1 as rookies.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
true, but with Oden it's not just the fouling that concerns me
it’s the fact that he moves like he’s a 50 year old man playing ball at the YMCA. The guy runs like he has two left feet.
Vinny discovers frontcourt by accident. Someone re-smash Gooden’s groin!
- your friendly BullsBlogger
by fundamentallysound on Feb 11, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
it's true, he does run like that. just because it happened to be pointed out
in Simmons’ newest podcast by his buddy House doesn’t make it any less legitimate. Oden is going to be a bust. He already is to me because Durant is so much better.
Vinny discovers frontcourt by accident. Someone re-smash Gooden’s groin!
- your friendly BullsBlogger
by fundamentallysound on Feb 11, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
That may be the stupidest reason somebody is considered a bust in the history of the world.
Greg Oden shot attempts rookie year: 5.7
Kevin Durant shot attempts rookie year: 17.1
Greg Oden minutes per game rookie year: 22.8
Kevin Durant minutes per game rookie year: 34.6
Kevin Durant averaged more shot attempts in his rookie year than Greg Oden’s career high attempts.
The Blazers just do not run plays for the big fella, whereas KD was the focal point of the offense since the get go.
Oden 16 points 10 rebounds 3 blocks in 14 point win over the Thunder. (yes go ahead and look up his stats from the game in OKC last week, if anything the score is tied at 1-1)
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 12, 2009 6:37 AM CST up reply actions
remember Shaq as a rookie?
fouled out constantly. Not a big deal
If that trade was real...
kERR WOULDA PULLED THE TRIGGER BY NOW.
I'm not sure this is a good idea for Portland.
It’s not just injuries. It’s Amare might leave anyway. They lose their “point guard of the future.” They lose one of their “building blocks”. And all for a player who might leave them in two years anyway, or get hurt?
It seems like an unnecessary gamble. All they need to do is stand pat and make a minor tweak or two.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Which is why I don't want us to do it
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Feb 11, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
Can I say it....
I told you so. I knew it would be Portland. If they have offered that package we can’t top that.
This is bull
This is PHX way of trying to get Pax to throw in Noah and Tyrus. If this trade was on the table PHX would be sending the paperwork into the league office.
Agreed
2 weeks ago PHX would’ve laughed at the possibility of Noah sweetening the deal. Now they’re practically demanding we include him and TT. As much as Amare would help our front line offense, the defensive lineups of Amare/Noc or Amare/Gray would be just dreadful.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Feb 11, 2009 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
I guess that could be helped by
the possible Etan Thomas/Mike James for LH but Thomas is hurt, so we’re basically punting this year if we do this deal, unless we plan on winning 121-119 every game.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Feb 11, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions
yes we can!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 11, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Is it just me, or does anyone else think it would be in Portland’s best interest for the eastern conference Bull’s to NOT give a western conference rival an extra good young player in any potential trade?
Thread Killer
The way things are going in Phx
They won’t even make the playoffs. They are the odd team out right now and trading Amare can’t possibly give them a better shot at improving their record.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 12, 2009 6:40 AM CST up reply actions
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