Time for CHANGES!!!!

by K_yle33 on Dec 9, 2009 9:44 PM CST

I'll start by saying this... I am truly embarrased to be a Chicago Bulls fan lately. Its one thing to have a losing team but when they have NO EFFORT and NO DESIRE to even compete I don't know what else to say. For this reason I believe it is time for management to make changes NOW instead of this summer. Obviously this team is waiting for 2010 summer free agency but I suggest they should start rebuilding ASAP in order to prepare for free agency. The following are my theories/thoughts:

Players to keep:

Rose - I still see him as a franchise player but needs teammates build around him for a team to succeed such as a shooter/scorer at SG.

Noah - He is a good defensive center that will cont. to get stronger and improve.

Gibson - Appears to be a solid backup PF (small contract)

Johnson - I'd like to hold onto him to see what he is capable of once he learns the NBA game. He is athletic and can score. (small contract)

Hunter/Gray/Pargo - Final year of contract, no body will want to trade for them.

Players to trade and trade ideas at this time:

* I believe these are trades the bulls could make NOW based on other teams needs and rumors.

Deng + Miller to Houston for Tracy McGrady, future 1st rounder.

McGrady is a 1 year rental. If he doesn't work, o well at least we got rid of Deng's Huge Contract. Houston isn't really in the running to get a big time free agent and may want to get some value for McGrady with his big contract. Also, they even get an expiring contract out of it with Miller. At least he is a try for a scorer, and if anything his 22 mil comes off the books this offseason.

John Salmons to Utah for Kyle Korver, 2nd round pick.

Salmons may be valuable to a contending team. Plus, Utah is in need of a SF since harpring is out for season. Korver could be a good shooter to go with Rose for short term.

3 team trade: Hinrich to Indiana, Al Harrington/Eddy Curry to Chicago, Tyrus Thomas/Jerome James/T.J. Ford to New York.

This trade in my opinion would work well for all teams. First, the bulls would get a scoring PF that can shoot and rebound. They also get a backup C that can score in the post. Both these players are on last year of contract which would open up space for this offseason. Indiana may get value for Ford since he is in his final year of contract and they will likely not get any big free agents. They will have a need at PG and may like hinrich. New york gets all expiring contracts but there has been rumors they really like Tyrus Thomas. Also, T.J. ford could fit well in D'antoni's offense.

Since The Bulls would need players to fill roster i'd sign Rashad Mccants for rest of this year and maybe Desmond Mason.

Bulls Lineup after these Trades:

Rose, Hunter

McGrady, Mccants, Pargo

Johnson, Korver, Mason

Harrington, Gibson

Noah, Curry, Gray

* All these players except Rose, Noah, Gibson, and Johnson are in final year of contract taking up only 11.5 mil next season (total)*

How this sets up for offseason:

1. Will have A TON of money to get a super star type player or two.

2. Can totally rebuild the team around Rose in the offseason.

3. Will likely get into lottery.

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to Fire Del Negro and get a head coach that Super-star players would want to play for.

by K_yle33 on Dec 9, 2009 9:46 PM CST reply actions

maybe its just me

but i’m pretty proud of my 3 team trade idea :)

by K_yle33 on Dec 9, 2009 9:52 PM CST reply actions

I like it. Let's get it crackin.....

by Bart71 on Dec 9, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions

Don't really see anything wrong with them either

and 11.5M committed to next year would make me very happy!!!

by MilkThenClear on Dec 9, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions

The problem with your idea

is that Eddy Curry is not on the final year of his contract.

He will be on the books next year for $11.3 million

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in a race to put in a smirky retort."
-your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT

by Jamaicanpi on Dec 9, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions

then

you could subsitute that trade with Darko. he’s in his final year for 7.5 mil.

by K_yle33 on Dec 10, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions

Bulls need a low post player. Send Salmons, Tyrus(who the Bulls probably wont play anyway), Gray, and Pargo to Utah for Boozer, Mathews, and Price. It would cost the Bulls a little money, but that’s part of the benefit for Utah. They don’t want to stay as far into the luxury tax as they are now, and Milsap is the future at PF for them. Boozer, who duplicates much of Milsap’s game, and steals his minutes, is an expendable luxury for them…

by kingles on Dec 9, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions

Indiana does like to collect white players.

They [Indiana] will have a need at PG and may like hinrich.

We miss you, Ben Gordon!

by Granny Waiters on Dec 9, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions

Good one

What the Bulls are now and mite be for a while is one of those mid level teams. There not good enough to contend, not bad enough to pick up a good draft pick. The likes of Deng, Hinrich, Thomas, Salmons and Miller will not get any better. It’s time to do something to make this team better and your suggestions are good. Even if the Bulls did one of the 4 suggestions it will be positive.
The only reason (I think) management won’t pull the trigger on these things until the end of the season is because they don’t want to be the first to flinch on the 2010 market. It may get some of the other teams into action to make their ballclub look more attractive for the A list players (if in fact the management even want to look into the 2010 FA market).

by Scal4theallstargame on Dec 9, 2009 10:21 PM CST reply actions

I disagree

Right now the Bulls are definitely bad enough to pick up a good draft pick!

"It hurts, man. All losses hurt."-Joakim Noah

by bigballa10 on Dec 10, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions

We should try to get Avery Johnson or Hubie Brown.

Dirk was a pussycat and Avery FORCED him to toughen up and go into the post. Hubie Brown demands toughness from his players. Hubie does not tolorate weak shit.

It will help to establish Rose and push him to greatness. We need a coach who is not interested in babysitting boys. We need someone who is a KICK ASS coach.

Derrick Rose loved and still loves coach CALIPARI because Coach CAL got into his ASS when he needed to and Rose was not lost on offense on that team.

I remember when Magic first came into the league and If I recall Magic got that coach fired because Magic wanted to run and the coach wanted a halfcourt game.

Rose needs a coach who stresses an up tempo game ALL OF THE TIME. Rose is at his best in the open court with players running on the wings. Players who know what the fuck to do with the basketball when Rose passes to them.

Play Defence, Rebound and Run and in the Halfcourt run plays for and thru Rose that is how you win games. What i have been seeing is some bullshit. I feel bad for Rose. Noah is losing control because he is not a loser and hates it.

by Bart71 on Dec 9, 2009 10:38 PM CST reply actions

Houston never does this trade, we would have to give up a first rounder at least for the trade.

I agree with the bring mcgrady to chicago mindset, itsjust gonna take miller plus hinrich plus salmons to do it.

by Krandle on Dec 9, 2009 11:03 PM CST reply actions

I know

a lot of people down with McGrady to Chicago, I’m down w/ the movement

by QUINTEN DALEY on Dec 10, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions

yeah

maybe i streched it a little too far with the 1st round pick. i’d just be happy getting rid of deng’s contract right now!

by K_yle33 on Dec 10, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions

The team is garbage,

so anyone that does not fit (players and coaches) with Rose and Noah needs to go.

We miss you, Ben Gordon!

by Granny Waiters on Dec 10, 2009 12:44 AM CST reply actions

It’s incredible how people come up with a ton of trade ideas that make sense and Forman/Pax don’t

Most of these ideas could not go through, but at least Forman/Pax should be more creative. They believe too much in this team. Reinsdorf might be guilty of not wanting to spend his money, but all the blame should be directed to the GM. They brought Vinny, they draft most of the players and they make the trades… Shortly, they make most of the decisions. Is it too difficult to be creative like this?

Nice effort man!

Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0

by bull83 on Dec 10, 2009 8:42 AM CST reply actions

But JR,

ran of D’Antoni, and we’re stuck w/ VDN, but not for long

by QUINTEN DALEY on Dec 10, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions

D'Antoni was the best, but there where better ones than Vinny

They choose a coach with no experience. They’re guilty for that

Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0

by bull83 on Dec 10, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions

Bulls management is too timid. They don’t seem to have the guts to make a bold deal. I think they have some good players, but they don’t FIT together. They wanted more ball movement(which is good theoretically), and then replaced BG with SALMONS! A player who sets up teammates less than Ben ever did, and not as good of a shooter either. Salmons+Deng+Taj= Stagnant offense. Even when Tyrus comes back(and if they give him decent minutes), it doesn’t solve this problem. What they need is a low post option, and a 2 guard who can set up teammates as well as getting his own. This problem already existed, but BG was good enough offensively to cover their warts. Well their offensive bailout option is gone….time for some WART REMOVAL.

by kingles on Dec 10, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions

I honestly think fans spend more time looking for ways to improve the roster than GarPax does!!

"It hurts, man. All losses hurt."-Joakim Noah

by bigballa10 on Dec 10, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions

Well, SOMEBODY has to look for ways to improve them…GarPax don’t have time for it.

by kingles on Dec 10, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions

Yea, imagine how bad the Knicks would be if they were stuck with VDN and we were scoring 110 a game in D’Antoni’s offense.

We wouldn’t have put a slower SF at the 2 guard spot in D’Antoni’s offense. No way the old man takes our last roster spot. No way Gray is resigned. Lawson is probably taken over JJ, Maybe Taj still is drafted, but he’s not a bad end of rotation rookie, he can fill in spot minutes.

Gah, I can dream.

by RyPac13 on Dec 10, 2009 10:41 AM CST reply actions

I guess on the flip side Pargo is probably a player MD likes. I’d like him too, if he weren’t playing much. Kind of a sloppy version of Eddie House. Pargo could probably play 10 min a game on Boston and nobody would notice his defects either.

by RyPac13 on Dec 10, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions

Sign Rashard McCants

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

by QUINTEN DALEY on Dec 10, 2009 11:07 AM CST reply actions

Bulls suck

wont happen, they will keep sucking, and very hard might i add

"All they do is mock me, just like they did the fat fellow. All the time mocking, mocking, mocking, mocking all the time! Now, it is Babu's turn to mock "---Babu Bhatt in the Seinfeld Finale Part 2

P.S.
"The fact of the matter is the chicago bulls have never been a contender since I left..."----Johnny Kilroy

by chi_till_eye_die on Dec 10, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions

Dude.....

you put the same damn comment on every single page, find something constructive to say. We all know they’ve been biting it pretty hard but really, change the tune.

by BigBabyCollin on Dec 10, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

screw these guys, and im not changing the tune

im sick of the bullshit. I have had enough, so im letting loose on these sorry excuses for professional athletes and coaching staff.

"All they do is mock me, just like they did the fat fellow. All the time mocking, mocking, mocking, mocking all the time! Now, it is Babu's turn to mock "---Babu Bhatt in the Seinfeld Finale Part 2

P.S.
"The fact of the matter is the chicago bulls have never been a contender since I left..."----Johnny Kilroy

by chi_till_eye_die on Dec 10, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions

i have to admit...

eddy curry and t.j. ford both have player options so they aren’t in final year of contrat. I was wrong; however, its the main idea of trading hinrich, deng, salmons for expiring contracts.

by K_yle33 on Dec 10, 2009 8:49 PM CST reply actions

Houston is set at SF with Ariza and Battier so they wouldn’t want Deng. I am all for trading for McGrady just for the contract…if he can still play a little, that’s a bonus.

Also we need to be spending more time unloading Salmons. If he opts in and he will because he’s having a shit year, that screws our cap space. Salmons for a bag of basketballs is fine with me.

by C Smoove on Dec 11, 2009 4:55 PM CST reply actions