If the Knicks are the laughingstock, what does that make the Bulls?
It's official. After all those deals we made with the Knicks, and supposedly we got the better end of those, here we are a half game behind them. Whatever we've done has been less effective than what they've done over that same period. And where it really counts, the Knicks have $27M in committed salaries while the Bulls have $44M. Can't even beat them at that.
The talk is of firing Vinnie because the Bulls suck. I guess someone has to be the scapegoat, but it's year 11 of rebuilding (next year is surely year 12) and management basically cut the legs out from under the coach by letting Ben Gordon walk for nothing and it sure looks like he's been ordered to radically change his coaching philosophy from what we saw last year to what we see this year.
There's a saying in sports that you can't fire the players so you fire the coach. Guess what? We've fired all our players all along, and we've fired coaches, too. 11 years and counting and those things don't help; it's really obvious what the problem really is.
MANAGEMENT. THE OWNER.
The Knicks must have better management, since they've come from a horrible "financial flexibility" standpoint and talent standpoint to be an equal or better team than the Bulls. They did it in a lot less than 11 years, too.
I've faced up to the fact that the Bulls are a minor league franchise. Really. What is a minor league franchise, after all, but a team that has the old guys on their way out of the sport and one that develops raw talent into big leaguers so they can be called up by the major league clubs.
Chicago sports fans are too good for the teams and the owners. We're loyal to a fault, through thick and thin. How about them Cubbies? Thin times for over 100 years and I'm still a fan. Jerry Reinsdorf does not deserve this kind of loyalty.
The Bulls are profitable to the point of obscenity. They put a mediocre product on the floor to maximize those profits. Not once in the past 11 years have I heard, "whatever it takes" from anyone with authority in Bulls' management. How silly is it of us fans to put our butts in the seats in the house that Michael built, only to root for a team that can't win, and for players who will only be with the team as long as their rookie scale contracts are in force?
There's a saying that goes, "fool me once, shame on thee, but fool me twice, shame on me." I don't know what it means to be fooled 11 times. The pattern that fools people is there for all to see:
1) Antonio Davis, Tim Thomas (twice!), PJ Brown, Ben Wallace, and Brad Miller are the highest paid players on the team.
2) The actually good young players get the revolving door treatment.
3) Management cries about cap space and the luxury tax.
4) Management belittles the good young player on his way out. I suppose it's worth a cheapskate's shot at getting to resign your own player as damaged goods for cheap.
5) Hype the next best thing, some rookie or rookies, and get people thinking "just wait until those guys mature and we'll be champs!"
Fool you 11 times, folks.
Reinsdorf flat out told us in his summer interview that we won't trade for guys like Pau Gasol because we'd have to surround him with actually good players that cost money - enough to cut his profit from $60M a season down to $45M.
The teams that win championships or who are serious contenders all have 3 all-star caliber players and their fourth and fifth players aren't far behind. Think about Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, and Odom - those four make 80% of the entire salary cap by themselves. Same story for the Celtics - Garnett, Allen, and Pierce earn the entire salary cap.
How about our Bulls? Our big three are Miller, Deng, and Hinrich who make half the salary cap. Our highest paid player has a PER of about 10. We have another 20% of the cap tied up in Tim Thomas and Jerome James; neither even has a PER since we're paying them not to play.
In spite of the fiscal decisions that override good basketball decisions, we actually could be on the verge of contention if reasonably good basketball decisions were made all along. Think about this: we could be going into the summer of 2010 with cap space and a core of Gasol, Gordon, Rose, Noah, and Salmons.
It's not much of a stretch to add Okafor to that list, if we'd have kept Chandler instead of PJ Brown, and Hinrich if Jerry weren't such a greedy bastard.
Yet here we are, no better than the Knicks and arguably worse.
Fool you 11 times.
What are we rooting for, a team we hope can contend or Jerry's bank account balance?
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Neil Funk fired Luol Deng.
There’s a saying in sports that you can’t fire the players
We miss you, Ben Gordon!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 23, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
hmmm
at least chicken stock can be useful.
i don’t know man, i can’t think of any term worse than “laughing stock”.
the title of this post is wrong from jump street......
the knicks arent the laughing stock of the nba, not even the nets are with only 2 wins…. THE BULLS FROM CHICAGO ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF NOT ONLY THE NBA, BUT EVERY PROFESSIONAL SPORT OUT THERE……
"You know, when you said that last time, I was kinda trippin right. But now...you're right. I am crazy...But you know what else? I dont give a fuck."---Bishop in Juice
by chi_till_eye_die on Dec 24, 2009 1:29 AM CST reply actions
I suppose we're the Soul Train line
I always thought the saying was “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice prepare to die”
Hmmm not sure I follow though how would we have gotten Gasol and still gotten the no.1 pick. We almost can’t connect lineups past the 2008 draft I think. But if we could of somehow gotten Amar’e that’d have been something really would of been good for the whole NBA to have a team like that.
I’m not sure how you all can still follow the Bulls like this though. Last year was crazy enough for me and once Gordon walked not much else to look forward too. One of the moments that really stand out to me still was when Vinny gave up on the Cleveland game for the entire 4th quarter. I think the players and even coach know they’re really not being backed here.
Thats why I don’t like 2010 its one of the worse things to happen (from my point of view) because now it gives teams excuses to say “well we’re going for Lebron/Wade/Bosh”. And basically not compete blah.
We'd have gotten Rose
The season that Reinsdorf turned down the Deng for Gasol deal was the same one that Boylan coached most of the games. 33 wins. I don’t think Gasol would have made us any better by himself, but he’d have been a great player to build around. Memphis wasn’t a winning team that year with him…
The problem was that Reinsdorf was unwilling to add players to the team to go with Gasol to make us a contender, and he basically outright said so in his interview this summer.
We should have all gotten the clue when we signed Ben Wallace and followed that with a salary dump.
by S2DennyCrane on Dec 26, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
it makes the Bulls a joke
these are two big city markets that are not dominating the free agents and league as in pathetic baseball.
grammer geeks you make me sick

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