"One NBA scout courtside insisted that, "Vinny ran three [different] plays the whole half and barely made any [play] calls. We don’t even know what to write down. They had a lot more variety last year, a lot more ball movement. It was almost like Vinny said, ‘Screw it, you guys figure it out.’ "
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Good read - what an indictment of both coaches and franchises
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy
Maybe Vinny is just deliberately trying to confuse opposing scouts
Unfortunately, he also seems to have confused his own team as well.
lol, wasn't that from the Vinny Del Negro playbook?
whatever happened to that thread?
"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak
by Rose Colored Goggles on Dec 29, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Streams? No.
But you can download some select Bulls games at http://bt.davka.info/.
Are you familiar with Bit Torrent?
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Dec 23, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
http://www.myp2pforum.eu/nba-basketball/44364-nba-season-09-10-full-game-downloads-35.html
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 23, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
This is so hilarious.
“we don’t even know what to write down.”
VDN is befuddling scouts!
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
he said it himself post-Kings
you can talk about your ‘schemes’, but it’s about confidence.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 23, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
I love how he mentioned schemes
like they’re a bunch of hocus pocus. " You can have all the schemes and all that, but it’s about the players." Like having a real idea of what to do out there is unnecessary.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.
by dakoose on Dec 23, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess none of the good teams bother with schemes
Oh yeah, the Lakers just go out there and play streetball.
As if 'scheme' and 'confidence' in it have nothing to do with each other.
Can someone please get this guy out of here. I promise to pay his cab fare to the airport. In fact, no need to pack, I’ll pay to ship his stuff wherever he’s going.
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
When you don't have players who can create their own shot
“schemes” would seem to be important
by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 23, 2009 1:52 PM CST reply actions
ugh
article makes another great point. If you’re Wade, who are you trusting your future to: Pat Riley or Gar Forman. blah.
by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 23, 2009 1:57 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
The article is interesting but incoherent.
Perhaps the same thing- not wanting to trust Reinsdorf with your future- played a role in D’Antoni not coming here. Subsequent events have certainly given him no cause for regret.
I also like how the Bulls are simultaneously shopping Tyrus and trying to give VDN a fair shake by waiting until he comes back.
yeah, he makes Gar out to be
the John Salmons of executives.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 23, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Wade's numbers are a tad down
And I read that Riley is leaning on Wade a bit, putting some pressure on him. If Riley wears too much on Wade, perhaps sour grapes between them and Wade will be itching to leave?
Too much egg nog to me. Who am I kidding, why leave south Florida for GarPaxDork and less money, especially after Bosh or someone joins him.
All your base are belong to Vinny.
Patriley reminds me of
Al Pacino in the Devils Advocate….Does that make Wade Keanau
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
If Wade walks
Riles still has a Carnival Cruise Line sized amount of cap space.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Dec 23, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
With Wade, they'd only have $24million committed in salary for next year
In other words, they have a lot more cap space than us, and they already have Wade on the roster.
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
What is scarier?
No head bands and corn rows or Riles’ body fat percentage litmus test for minutes?
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Dec 23, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
Forget about getting Wade
Speaking from someone who lives in Miami, he’s leaning on mgt to get enough pieces to be able to compete for a title. He does like coach Spoelstra and Miami will be well positioned financially to potentially make a run at two FAs. There’s no advantage to coming to Chicago over Miami. Chicago might be the 3rd largest market, but there’s no state tax in Florida, the weather is a hell of lot better in Miami, and the nighlife is just as attractive (if not more so).
Who knows what the coaching situation will be (even if you assume VDN is otta here) by the time the FA signing period begins.
People need to get DWade out of their heads. If he doesn’t resign with Miami, it will be b/c Miami couldn’t sign any big name FAs. In other words, we’d have to have a marquee player on the roster for him to think his addition would push the team to the edge. DRose will either have to elevate his game to top tier status by the time the season is over or we’re screwed b/c we won’t have money for two FAs unless Deng is somehow traded for expiring contracts.
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
Own in Florida
Rent in Chicago.
Not that I know how the player salaries work in the NBA, but they work in lots of places. Do they all pay income taxes in their “home states”?
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Dec 23, 2009 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
The income tax thing is way overblown...
one of the ESPN writers did a great piece on it that was posted on here earlier in the year. most people who mention it have no idea what they’re even talking about. but you pay income tax where your income comes from.
as for owning and renting… he owns in Chicago already. A house in the burbs and a townhouse downtown. So…
They pay income taxes in multiple states...
And countries…however, with the bulk of any players income being earned in Florida (with no income tax), that certainly must an incentive…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and LLE will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Dec 24, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
maybe it was just the same play 3 different times.
It was a little ambiguous with the “different” being added in by the writer.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Did anyone notice the Bulls played better in the 2nd half without VDN's play calls
the best play VDN can call is to give the ball to Rose
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 23, 2009 11:40 PM CST reply actions
not that i'm a VDN fan but..
Nobody runs plays in the NBA, its about pick and roll and isolations and i’d rather have rose/hinrich calling the plays anyways.
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